Brian Smith

"AccordinNC" <notrealemail@planetmars.com> wrote in
message
news:5nvs21h9l04ctl2n29q8qdm14g0ehpcvar@4ax.com...
> Well gang, the day didn't go so well. After the car
> being at the
> dealership for the entire day (had some other routine
> things done as
> well), they couldn't find anything wrong with the
> seat or any part
> thereof.
> Even after I gave them printed documents of people on
> the Internet
> having the same or similair problem (I checked other
> message boards as
> well) they still "claim" that there is no record in
> the Honda "system"
> of a problem like this, and if the technician doesn't
> find a problem
> while test driving the car, they say there is nothing
> they can do.

Here's the part number for what was done to my driver's
seat (2001 Accord) at 111,599 km on May 25, 2004 (no
charge). 81599-S84-999, 2 Shim Set replaced because of
seat loose and noisy, TEC #44.

Maybe this will help you.

Brian

Brian Smith

"AccordinNC" <notrealemail@planetmars.com> wrote in
message
news:5nvs21h9l04ctl2n29q8qdm14g0ehpcvar@4ax.com...
> Well gang, the day didn't go so well. After the car
> being at the
> dealership for the entire day (had some other routine
> things done as
> well), they couldn't find anything wrong with the
> seat or any part
> thereof.
> Even after I gave them printed documents of people on
> the Internet
> having the same or similair problem (I checked other
> message boards as
> well) they still "claim" that there is no record in
> the Honda "system"
> of a problem like this, and if the technician doesn't
> find a problem
> while test driving the car, they say there is nothing
> they can do.

Here's the part number for what was done to my driver's
seat (2001 Accord) at 111,599 km on May 25, 2004 (no
charge). 81599-S84-999, 2 Shim Set replaced because of
seat loose and noisy, TEC #44.

Maybe this will help you.

Brian

RonT

I have a 2003 Accord EX-V6 with the problem. However, I don't notice
anything on acceleration or braking. My problem is during turns. It feels
as though there is something in the seat cushion that is sliding or shifting
side to side during turns. It is most evident during a left turn and less
so during a right turn. If I place my hand between the seat cushion and the
console and take a left turn, I can feel and hear a thump against the side
of the cushion. The seat feels as if it is shifting somewhat as well, but
not very much.

Didn't someone in here a while back say that their dealer replaced the seat
frame and the problem was corrected?

Ron

"AccordinNC" <notrealemail@planetmars.com> wrote in message
news:uemp21tacrq184v0onmrgc062glgmvnmrs@4ax.com...
> Hello fellow Honda drivers.
> I have an 2004 Accord 4-dr sedan EX-V6. I've had it for a year now and
> loving it, it's my first Honda.
> I was wondering if anybody out there had the following problem.
> Sometimes when I brake, accelerate from a stop or turn, my drivers
> side seat will move. It's just slight nudge. You can't hear it, but
> you can feel it. Many times I think it feels like it's moving from
> side to side, not front to back, but then sometimes maybe it does.
> I've tried to manually "jiggle" the seat but to no avail.
> I've brought it to the delaership several times already and each time
> they take it for a test ride and they can't find anything.
>
> Now here's the clincher. I spoke to a Honda technician (on the side)
> and he told me that they are well aware of the problem, but because
> it's the powered leather seat they want to blow me off because it
> would not be cheap for them to fix it. I cannot use what he told me
> against them because he's the son of a good friend and I don't want
> him to get fired.
>
> So basically I'm looking for anyone out there that has this problem
> and I would love to know what you did to solve it.
>

RonT

I have a 2003 Accord EX-V6 with the problem. However, I don't notice
anything on acceleration or braking. My problem is during turns. It feels
as though there is something in the seat cushion that is sliding or shifting
side to side during turns. It is most evident during a left turn and less
so during a right turn. If I place my hand between the seat cushion and the
console and take a left turn, I can feel and hear a thump against the side
of the cushion. The seat feels as if it is shifting somewhat as well, but
not very much.

Didn't someone in here a while back say that their dealer replaced the seat
frame and the problem was corrected?

Ron

"AccordinNC" <notrealemail@planetmars.com> wrote in message
news:uemp21tacrq184v0onmrgc062glgmvnmrs@4ax.com...
> Hello fellow Honda drivers.
> I have an 2004 Accord 4-dr sedan EX-V6. I've had it for a year now and
> loving it, it's my first Honda.
> I was wondering if anybody out there had the following problem.
> Sometimes when I brake, accelerate from a stop or turn, my drivers
> side seat will move. It's just slight nudge. You can't hear it, but
> you can feel it. Many times I think it feels like it's moving from
> side to side, not front to back, but then sometimes maybe it does.
> I've tried to manually "jiggle" the seat but to no avail.
> I've brought it to the delaership several times already and each time
> they take it for a test ride and they can't find anything.
>
> Now here's the clincher. I spoke to a Honda technician (on the side)
> and he told me that they are well aware of the problem, but because
> it's the powered leather seat they want to blow me off because it
> would not be cheap for them to fix it. I cannot use what he told me
> against them because he's the son of a good friend and I don't want
> him to get fired.
>
> So basically I'm looking for anyone out there that has this problem
> and I would love to know what you did to solve it.
>

Glynn Edgar

Hi,

I would find a new dealer, I had the same problem on my 2004 Accord Sedan
EX-L, non V-6. I mentioned it to my dealer once, they replaced the seat
frame and even the side trim pieces which weren't part of the problem and I
now have a rock solid seat. I think Honda must have had a bad patch of seat
frames for the power seats. The dealer really shouldn't care as its
warranty work and Honda will re-imburse the dealer for the work, the only
thing my mechanic said is the seats are damn heavy.

Hope you get yours fixed ASAP.

Cheers,

Glynn

"AccordinNC" <notrealemail@planetmars.com> wrote in message
news:5nvs21h9l04ctl2n29q8qdm14g0ehpcvar@4ax.com...
> Well gang, the day didn't go so well. After the car being at the
> dealership for the entire day (had some other routine things done as
> well), they couldn't find anything wrong with the seat or any part
> thereof.
> Even after I gave them printed documents of people on the Internet
> having the same or similair problem (I checked other message boards as
> well) they still "claim" that there is no record in the Honda "system"
> of a problem like this, and if the technician doesn't find a problem
> while test driving the car, they say there is nothing they can do.
>
> Well, I got some bad news for you sunshine (Pink Floyd reference). It
> looks like it's going to require a little more digging and most likley
> a letter to somebody.
>
> I'll keep the group posted if anybody is still interested.
> Thanks all for reading and including your side of things.
>
>
>
> On Tue, 08 Mar 2005 22:06:58 GMT, "William Katovsky"
> <bkato@ix.netcom.com> wrote:
>
>>I have a 2003 "Accord and don't have this problem but I had it in a car a
>>number of years ago. I complained about it every time I brought the car in
>>for warranty service (and this car needed a lot of service). It had a
>>manual
>>tranny so I felt the movement each time I shifted too. After the 5th or
>>6th
>>time of telling me they could not find a problem, I made them take the
>>seat
>>apart and they found a broken bolt. Replaced it and no more problem.
>>
>>"AccordinNC" <notrealemail@planetmars.com> wrote in message
>>news:uemp21tacrq184v0onmrgc062glgmvnmrs@4ax.com. ..
>>> Hello fellow Honda drivers.
>>> I have an 2004 Accord 4-dr sedan EX-V6. I've had it for a year now and
>>> loving it, it's my first Honda.
>>> I was wondering if anybody out there had the following problem.
>>> Sometimes when I brake, accelerate from a stop or turn, my drivers
>>> side seat will move. It's just slight nudge. You can't hear it, but
>>> you can feel it. Many times I think it feels like it's moving from
>>> side to side, not front to back, but then sometimes maybe it does.
>>> I've tried to manually "jiggle" the seat but to no avail.
>>> I've brought it to the delaership several times already and each time
>>> they take it for a test ride and they can't find anything.
>>>
>>> Now here's the clincher. I spoke to a Honda technician (on the side)
>>> and he told me that they are well aware of the problem, but because
>>> it's the powered leather seat they want to blow me off because it
>>> would not be cheap for them to fix it. I cannot use what he told me
>>> against them because he's the son of a good friend and I don't want
>>> him to get fired.
>>>
>>> So basically I'm looking for anyone out there that has this problem
>>> and I would love to know what you did to solve it.
>>>
>>
>

Glynn Edgar

Hi,

I would find a new dealer, I had the same problem on my 2004 Accord Sedan
EX-L, non V-6. I mentioned it to my dealer once, they replaced the seat
frame and even the side trim pieces which weren't part of the problem and I
now have a rock solid seat. I think Honda must have had a bad patch of seat
frames for the power seats. The dealer really shouldn't care as its
warranty work and Honda will re-imburse the dealer for the work, the only
thing my mechanic said is the seats are damn heavy.

Hope you get yours fixed ASAP.

Cheers,

Glynn

"AccordinNC" <notrealemail@planetmars.com> wrote in message
news:5nvs21h9l04ctl2n29q8qdm14g0ehpcvar@4ax.com...
> Well gang, the day didn't go so well. After the car being at the
> dealership for the entire day (had some other routine things done as
> well), they couldn't find anything wrong with the seat or any part
> thereof.
> Even after I gave them printed documents of people on the Internet
> having the same or similair problem (I checked other message boards as
> well) they still "claim" that there is no record in the Honda "system"
> of a problem like this, and if the technician doesn't find a problem
> while test driving the car, they say there is nothing they can do.
>
> Well, I got some bad news for you sunshine (Pink Floyd reference). It
> looks like it's going to require a little more digging and most likley
> a letter to somebody.
>
> I'll keep the group posted if anybody is still interested.
> Thanks all for reading and including your side of things.
>
>
>
> On Tue, 08 Mar 2005 22:06:58 GMT, "William Katovsky"
> <bkato@ix.netcom.com> wrote:
>
>>I have a 2003 "Accord and don't have this problem but I had it in a car a
>>number of years ago. I complained about it every time I brought the car in
>>for warranty service (and this car needed a lot of service). It had a
>>manual
>>tranny so I felt the movement each time I shifted too. After the 5th or
>>6th
>>time of telling me they could not find a problem, I made them take the
>>seat
>>apart and they found a broken bolt. Replaced it and no more problem.
>>
>>"AccordinNC" <notrealemail@planetmars.com> wrote in message
>>news:uemp21tacrq184v0onmrgc062glgmvnmrs@4ax.com. ..
>>> Hello fellow Honda drivers.
>>> I have an 2004 Accord 4-dr sedan EX-V6. I've had it for a year now and
>>> loving it, it's my first Honda.
>>> I was wondering if anybody out there had the following problem.
>>> Sometimes when I brake, accelerate from a stop or turn, my drivers
>>> side seat will move. It's just slight nudge. You can't hear it, but
>>> you can feel it. Many times I think it feels like it's moving from
>>> side to side, not front to back, but then sometimes maybe it does.
>>> I've tried to manually "jiggle" the seat but to no avail.
>>> I've brought it to the delaership several times already and each time
>>> they take it for a test ride and they can't find anything.
>>>
>>> Now here's the clincher. I spoke to a Honda technician (on the side)
>>> and he told me that they are well aware of the problem, but because
>>> it's the powered leather seat they want to blow me off because it
>>> would not be cheap for them to fix it. I cannot use what he told me
>>> against them because he's the son of a good friend and I don't want
>>> him to get fired.
>>>
>>> So basically I'm looking for anyone out there that has this problem
>>> and I would love to know what you did to solve it.
>>>
>>
>

MJC

I have the exact same problem on my 2004 EX coupe 6mt.

I took the car to two different dealerships. Both of them said this normal
for power seats.

I wasn't satisfied with their answer and called the Honda customer service
number and opened a case number. A Honda rep. called me about 6 days later
and told me that "the seat works as it was engineered".
I ask if the drivers seat was engineered with play in them for a reason.
He side stepped the question and repeated.
" The seat works as it was engineered".
I also asked him if anyone else had complained of this problem and he told
me "no". I figured he was lying or was stupid or both.

My guess is that there has not been enough people complaining and taking it
to the next level to warrant them spending money to resolve this. Most of
these complaints get shot down when people accept the service managers
corporate answer.

If everyone who has this problem would call the Honda customer service
number and open a case maybe it would raise some eyebrows at Honda
Engineering.

I am probably going to take the easy and costly way out by selling and
buying a new car. Seat problem not severe enough to bring lemon law into
play ( and Honda knows this). Only other remedy would be if there were
enough people to get a class action suit going to fix this or if there was
some kind of safety issue. Not likely to be a money maker for a lawyer and
Honda also knows this.



"AccordinNC" <notrealemail@planetmars.com> wrote in message
news:uemp21tacrq184v0onmrgc062glgmvnmrs@4ax.com...
> Hello fellow Honda drivers.
> I have an 2004 Accord 4-dr sedan EX-V6. I've had it for a year now and
> loving it, it's my first Honda.
> I was wondering if anybody out there had the following problem.
> Sometimes when I brake, accelerate from a stop or turn, my drivers
> side seat will move. It's just slight nudge. You can't hear it, but
> you can feel it. Many times I think it feels like it's moving from
> side to side, not front to back, but then sometimes maybe it does.
> I've tried to manually "jiggle" the seat but to no avail.
> I've brought it to the delaership several times already and each time
> they take it for a test ride and they can't find anything.
>
> Now here's the clincher. I spoke to a Honda technician (on the side)
> and he told me that they are well aware of the problem, but because
> it's the powered leather seat they want to blow me off because it
> would not be cheap for them to fix it. I cannot use what he told me
> against them because he's the son of a good friend and I don't want
> him to get fired.
>
> So basically I'm looking for anyone out there that has this problem
> and I would love to know what you did to solve it.
>

MJC

I have the exact same problem on my 2004 EX coupe 6mt.

I took the car to two different dealerships. Both of them said this normal
for power seats.

I wasn't satisfied with their answer and called the Honda customer service
number and opened a case number. A Honda rep. called me about 6 days later
and told me that "the seat works as it was engineered".
I ask if the drivers seat was engineered with play in them for a reason.
He side stepped the question and repeated.
" The seat works as it was engineered".
I also asked him if anyone else had complained of this problem and he told
me "no". I figured he was lying or was stupid or both.

My guess is that there has not been enough people complaining and taking it
to the next level to warrant them spending money to resolve this. Most of
these complaints get shot down when people accept the service managers
corporate answer.

If everyone who has this problem would call the Honda customer service
number and open a case maybe it would raise some eyebrows at Honda
Engineering.

I am probably going to take the easy and costly way out by selling and
buying a new car. Seat problem not severe enough to bring lemon law into
play ( and Honda knows this). Only other remedy would be if there were
enough people to get a class action suit going to fix this or if there was
some kind of safety issue. Not likely to be a money maker for a lawyer and
Honda also knows this.



"AccordinNC" <notrealemail@planetmars.com> wrote in message
news:uemp21tacrq184v0onmrgc062glgmvnmrs@4ax.com...
> Hello fellow Honda drivers.
> I have an 2004 Accord 4-dr sedan EX-V6. I've had it for a year now and
> loving it, it's my first Honda.
> I was wondering if anybody out there had the following problem.
> Sometimes when I brake, accelerate from a stop or turn, my drivers
> side seat will move. It's just slight nudge. You can't hear it, but
> you can feel it. Many times I think it feels like it's moving from
> side to side, not front to back, but then sometimes maybe it does.
> I've tried to manually "jiggle" the seat but to no avail.
> I've brought it to the delaership several times already and each time
> they take it for a test ride and they can't find anything.
>
> Now here's the clincher. I spoke to a Honda technician (on the side)
> and he told me that they are well aware of the problem, but because
> it's the powered leather seat they want to blow me off because it
> would not be cheap for them to fix it. I cannot use what he told me
> against them because he's the son of a good friend and I don't want
> him to get fired.
>
> So basically I'm looking for anyone out there that has this problem
> and I would love to know what you did to solve it.
>