04 Civic owners wanted for AC question
#31
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Re: 04 Civic owners wanted for AC question
Randolph wrote:
> Aside from the fact that Honda does not build cars to your specs, have
> you test driven another, same model car to see if it is indeed a general
> issue with the Civic, or if perhaps there is something wrong with your
> car?
>
Of course I will FIRST take it back to my dealer for their analysis. What I
wanted to get first was some data of other folks with the same car in a 100+
degree climate so that I won't get a run-around from the service manager.
> You probably are not too eager to pay for it, but you could try taking
> the car to a place specializing in A/C systems. If they find something
> wrong, and you have documentation that you tried to get Honda to fix it,
> Honda may have to reimburse you.
That's not a bad idea but I'll have to spend some time finding a reputable AC
shop. Worth a try... but I think I'll try the dealer first.
My guess is that what everyone else has said is correct. This IS the way the
car was designed and manufactured. So my best guess is that if it can't be
'tweeked' to give me a colder cabin, I'm going to unload the vehicle and get
something else... and I'll drive it on a hot day to make sure it meets my
climate control standards.
Al
> Aside from the fact that Honda does not build cars to your specs, have
> you test driven another, same model car to see if it is indeed a general
> issue with the Civic, or if perhaps there is something wrong with your
> car?
>
Of course I will FIRST take it back to my dealer for their analysis. What I
wanted to get first was some data of other folks with the same car in a 100+
degree climate so that I won't get a run-around from the service manager.
> You probably are not too eager to pay for it, but you could try taking
> the car to a place specializing in A/C systems. If they find something
> wrong, and you have documentation that you tried to get Honda to fix it,
> Honda may have to reimburse you.
That's not a bad idea but I'll have to spend some time finding a reputable AC
shop. Worth a try... but I think I'll try the dealer first.
My guess is that what everyone else has said is correct. This IS the way the
car was designed and manufactured. So my best guess is that if it can't be
'tweeked' to give me a colder cabin, I'm going to unload the vehicle and get
something else... and I'll drive it on a hot day to make sure it meets my
climate control standards.
Al
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Re: 04 Civic owners wanted for AC question
"> Why wouldn't I notice it in a 6cyl Accord then in a 4 cyl Civic?
Warm air is
> warm air! If you put your hand on the vent you can easily feel the temp
> change when going from 1st to 4th in the Civic (auto trans.)
>
> Why would compressor cut even be necessary on a 6 cyl?
>
> ANC
because it happens at a very different rpm!! it's needed because
people want the power to be there when needed, and a/c compresser uses
around 20 hp.
it's still normal on the civics any way you look at it.
didn't you test drive the car first?
Chip
Warm air is
> warm air! If you put your hand on the vent you can easily feel the temp
> change when going from 1st to 4th in the Civic (auto trans.)
>
> Why would compressor cut even be necessary on a 6 cyl?
>
> ANC
because it happens at a very different rpm!! it's needed because
people want the power to be there when needed, and a/c compresser uses
around 20 hp.
it's still normal on the civics any way you look at it.
didn't you test drive the car first?
Chip
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Re: 04 Civic owners wanted for AC question
"> Why wouldn't I notice it in a 6cyl Accord then in a 4 cyl Civic?
Warm air is
> warm air! If you put your hand on the vent you can easily feel the temp
> change when going from 1st to 4th in the Civic (auto trans.)
>
> Why would compressor cut even be necessary on a 6 cyl?
>
> ANC
because it happens at a very different rpm!! it's needed because
people want the power to be there when needed, and a/c compresser uses
around 20 hp.
it's still normal on the civics any way you look at it.
didn't you test drive the car first?
Chip
Warm air is
> warm air! If you put your hand on the vent you can easily feel the temp
> change when going from 1st to 4th in the Civic (auto trans.)
>
> Why would compressor cut even be necessary on a 6 cyl?
>
> ANC
because it happens at a very different rpm!! it's needed because
people want the power to be there when needed, and a/c compresser uses
around 20 hp.
it's still normal on the civics any way you look at it.
didn't you test drive the car first?
Chip
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Re: 04 Civic owners wanted for AC question
Chip Stein wrote:
> didn't you test drive the car first?
Yes, but in Feb. when it was 47 degrees here! In the summer we can go days and
days of 100+. Thats the downside. The upside is that Sacramento does not get
earthquakes, tornadoes, or hurricanes.
I like the Civic and I feel I'm doing the right thing environmentally
(interesting for a conservative Republican!) but I feel that Honda should
have alerted me (i.e. people in warm climates) about this a/c 'feature.' Of
course, if they had, I would not have purchased the automobile so I
understand why they didn't. But in the long run they lose because I will tell
friends and colleagues... and they don't need that kind of bad publicity. The
car does not sell all that well as it is.
Al
> didn't you test drive the car first?
Yes, but in Feb. when it was 47 degrees here! In the summer we can go days and
days of 100+. Thats the downside. The upside is that Sacramento does not get
earthquakes, tornadoes, or hurricanes.
I like the Civic and I feel I'm doing the right thing environmentally
(interesting for a conservative Republican!) but I feel that Honda should
have alerted me (i.e. people in warm climates) about this a/c 'feature.' Of
course, if they had, I would not have purchased the automobile so I
understand why they didn't. But in the long run they lose because I will tell
friends and colleagues... and they don't need that kind of bad publicity. The
car does not sell all that well as it is.
Al
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Re: 04 Civic owners wanted for AC question
Chip Stein wrote:
> didn't you test drive the car first?
Yes, but in Feb. when it was 47 degrees here! In the summer we can go days and
days of 100+. Thats the downside. The upside is that Sacramento does not get
earthquakes, tornadoes, or hurricanes.
I like the Civic and I feel I'm doing the right thing environmentally
(interesting for a conservative Republican!) but I feel that Honda should
have alerted me (i.e. people in warm climates) about this a/c 'feature.' Of
course, if they had, I would not have purchased the automobile so I
understand why they didn't. But in the long run they lose because I will tell
friends and colleagues... and they don't need that kind of bad publicity. The
car does not sell all that well as it is.
Al
> didn't you test drive the car first?
Yes, but in Feb. when it was 47 degrees here! In the summer we can go days and
days of 100+. Thats the downside. The upside is that Sacramento does not get
earthquakes, tornadoes, or hurricanes.
I like the Civic and I feel I'm doing the right thing environmentally
(interesting for a conservative Republican!) but I feel that Honda should
have alerted me (i.e. people in warm climates) about this a/c 'feature.' Of
course, if they had, I would not have purchased the automobile so I
understand why they didn't. But in the long run they lose because I will tell
friends and colleagues... and they don't need that kind of bad publicity. The
car does not sell all that well as it is.
Al
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Re: 04 Civic owners wanted for AC question
chip@chipanddebby.com (Chip Stein) wrote in message news:<5ddcea74.0407281729.d4ce92b@posting.google.c om>...
> "> Why wouldn't I notice it in a 6cyl Accord then in a 4 cyl Civic?
> Warm air is
> > warm air! If you put your hand on the vent you can easily feel the temp
> > change when going from 1st to 4th in the Civic (auto trans.)
> >
> > Why would compressor cut even be necessary on a 6 cyl?
> >
> > ANC
>
> because it happens at a very different rpm!! it's needed because
> people want the power to be there when needed, and a/c compresser uses
> around 20 hp.
20 HP? Are you sure about that?? That's 20*746= almost 15KW! A
central A/C system for a house doesn't even use 10KW! If you have
data backing it up I'd be eager to see it.
> "> Why wouldn't I notice it in a 6cyl Accord then in a 4 cyl Civic?
> Warm air is
> > warm air! If you put your hand on the vent you can easily feel the temp
> > change when going from 1st to 4th in the Civic (auto trans.)
> >
> > Why would compressor cut even be necessary on a 6 cyl?
> >
> > ANC
>
> because it happens at a very different rpm!! it's needed because
> people want the power to be there when needed, and a/c compresser uses
> around 20 hp.
20 HP? Are you sure about that?? That's 20*746= almost 15KW! A
central A/C system for a house doesn't even use 10KW! If you have
data backing it up I'd be eager to see it.
#43
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Re: 04 Civic owners wanted for AC question
chip@chipanddebby.com (Chip Stein) wrote in message news:<5ddcea74.0407281729.d4ce92b@posting.google.c om>...
> "> Why wouldn't I notice it in a 6cyl Accord then in a 4 cyl Civic?
> Warm air is
> > warm air! If you put your hand on the vent you can easily feel the temp
> > change when going from 1st to 4th in the Civic (auto trans.)
> >
> > Why would compressor cut even be necessary on a 6 cyl?
> >
> > ANC
>
> because it happens at a very different rpm!! it's needed because
> people want the power to be there when needed, and a/c compresser uses
> around 20 hp.
20 HP? Are you sure about that?? That's 20*746= almost 15KW! A
central A/C system for a house doesn't even use 10KW! If you have
data backing it up I'd be eager to see it.
> "> Why wouldn't I notice it in a 6cyl Accord then in a 4 cyl Civic?
> Warm air is
> > warm air! If you put your hand on the vent you can easily feel the temp
> > change when going from 1st to 4th in the Civic (auto trans.)
> >
> > Why would compressor cut even be necessary on a 6 cyl?
> >
> > ANC
>
> because it happens at a very different rpm!! it's needed because
> people want the power to be there when needed, and a/c compresser uses
> around 20 hp.
20 HP? Are you sure about that?? That's 20*746= almost 15KW! A
central A/C system for a house doesn't even use 10KW! If you have
data backing it up I'd be eager to see it.