Jamco

If you note, most of the items are "inspect" or "check" which means glance
at it and mark it as ok. For an Oil change, Tire rotation, wiper blades,
and air filter, I would say $240 is way out of line.

Just make sure you do the actual required maintanence. When you go to sell
your car, or you crash your car, having paid extra money for someone to
visually inspect your car ever once and a while really won't do you any
good.


"GK" <frodo@ameriNOSPMtech.net> wrote in message
news:JHyze.2198$0w2.479@newssvr19.news.prodigy.com ...
> Thank you for your courteous reply. I do pay attention. I thought that
> these checkups were more standard. Perhaps they vary from dealer to
> dealer. I don't know all Honda everywhere.
>
> Here's what they will do at Planet Honda in Matteson, IL, for $240:
>
> * change oil and filter
> * inspect belts and hoses
> * clean, inspect, and adjust rear brakes
> * inspect parking brake
> * rotate tires, inspect tires, set proper pressure
> * check all fluid levels
> * check functions of all lights
> * wiper/washer fluid levels
> * inspect battery (run test), clean terminals
> * inspect valves
> * replace air filter
> * change wiper inserts
>
> Thank you.
>
> GK
>
> Nick wrote:
>> Unless you want to get taken to the cleaners, I suggest that you start
>> paying attention to what the checkups entail. Most times these so
>> called checkups end up costing more than the individual jobs. Call
>> your dealer up and find out what exactly they will perform for the 15k
>> checkup. Post back and we will tell you if it is worth it and how much
>> each individual job will cost.
>>
>> Nick
>>
>>
>> On Fri, 08 Jul 2005 03:00:54 GMT, GK <frodo@ameriNOSPMtech.net> wrote:
>>
>>
>>>I'm leasing a 2004 Honda Civic. It has just over 17,000 miles on it.
>>>I've been doing the regular maintenance, oil changes, etc.
>>>
>>>The dealer wants to do the suggested 15,000 mile checkup. It will cost
>>>me around $240.
>>>
>>>Is it worth it? I don't recall what it entails.
>>>
>>>GK
>>

Jamco

If you note, most of the items are "inspect" or "check" which means glance
at it and mark it as ok. For an Oil change, Tire rotation, wiper blades,
and air filter, I would say $240 is way out of line.

Just make sure you do the actual required maintanence. When you go to sell
your car, or you crash your car, having paid extra money for someone to
visually inspect your car ever once and a while really won't do you any
good.


"GK" <frodo@ameriNOSPMtech.net> wrote in message
news:JHyze.2198$0w2.479@newssvr19.news.prodigy.com ...
> Thank you for your courteous reply. I do pay attention. I thought that
> these checkups were more standard. Perhaps they vary from dealer to
> dealer. I don't know all Honda everywhere.
>
> Here's what they will do at Planet Honda in Matteson, IL, for $240:
>
> * change oil and filter
> * inspect belts and hoses
> * clean, inspect, and adjust rear brakes
> * inspect parking brake
> * rotate tires, inspect tires, set proper pressure
> * check all fluid levels
> * check functions of all lights
> * wiper/washer fluid levels
> * inspect battery (run test), clean terminals
> * inspect valves
> * replace air filter
> * change wiper inserts
>
> Thank you.
>
> GK
>
> Nick wrote:
>> Unless you want to get taken to the cleaners, I suggest that you start
>> paying attention to what the checkups entail. Most times these so
>> called checkups end up costing more than the individual jobs. Call
>> your dealer up and find out what exactly they will perform for the 15k
>> checkup. Post back and we will tell you if it is worth it and how much
>> each individual job will cost.
>>
>> Nick
>>
>>
>> On Fri, 08 Jul 2005 03:00:54 GMT, GK <frodo@ameriNOSPMtech.net> wrote:
>>
>>
>>>I'm leasing a 2004 Honda Civic. It has just over 17,000 miles on it.
>>>I've been doing the regular maintenance, oil changes, etc.
>>>
>>>The dealer wants to do the suggested 15,000 mile checkup. It will cost
>>>me around $240.
>>>
>>>Is it worth it? I don't recall what it entails.
>>>
>>>GK
>>

Bubba

In article <a5idnVx5BajNIVPfRVn-og@comcast.com> "L Alpert"
<alpertl@xxgmail.com> writes:

>GK wrote:
>> Thank you for your courteous reply. I do pay attention. I thought
>> that these checkups were more standard. Perhaps they vary from
>> dealer to dealer. I don't know all Honda everywhere.

>> Here's what they will do at Planet Honda in Matteson, IL, for $240:

>> * change oil and filter

$25

>> * inspect belts and hoses

They're going to look at them and watch them go around. Modern belts don't
go bad at 15k miles, never-ever.

>> * clean, inspect, and adjust rear brakes

Assuming drum brakes here, put it in reverse and drive in reverse for
about 50 feet. Press the brake pedal 3~4 times over that distance. Pull
the rear wheels and blow out the dust w/an air hose. Doubtful they'll even
bother to pull the drums. They'll have the wheels off already for the
rotation, so this "extra" step will maybe add 30 seconds.

>> * inspect parking brake

They're going to set the brake and put the car in gear, forward & reverse
to see if the brake holds. Trust me, it will.

>> * rotate tires, inspect tires, set proper pressure

$20 (lifetime free rotation **AND** balance at NTB and Discount Tire
w/purchase of 2 or more tires) - This service by the way is probably one
of the best things you can do to prolong the life of your tires. Do it
every 5k miles and your tires will last a very long time.

>> * check all fluid levels

Included in the $25 oil change, above. Takes all of 2 minutes.

>> * check functions of all lights

Try them all and watch them through mirrors. Takes 1 minute.

>> * wiper/washer fluid levels

Included in the $25 oil change, above

>> * inspect battery (run test), clean terminals

Battery and charging system load tests are free at Autozone. Terminals
won't need cleaning at 15k miles so this is BS. Takes 5~10 minutes. If
they -really- did this it would require disconnecting the battery meaning
all your radio presets would be lost. If your radio presets are where they
were, then all they did was smear some red goo on the battery cable
connectors.

>> * inspect valves

Huh? How do they plan to do this without pulling off the intake manifold,
exhaust manifold(s) and doing a detailed disassembly of the cylinder
heads? This one I have to see. Maybe they meant they'll do a compression
check, but I even doubt that much effort will be expended at 15k miles.

>> * replace air filter

Adds $10~15 to your $25 oil change, above.

>> * change wiper inserts

$20 at Autozone. Tip the kid $5 and he'll probably put them on for you.
Send your wife in wearing some tight jeans and high heels, the kid will
put 'em on for free.

>About 1 to 1.5 hours of labor. Many other places do the same thing for
>30%-40% less. My local Midas shop does the same thing for $159 regular, and
>I have a $20 coupon for it.

>It is a lot of dopugh for some one to walk around your car with a checklist.

Indeed.

Bubba

In article <a5idnVx5BajNIVPfRVn-og@comcast.com> "L Alpert"
<alpertl@xxgmail.com> writes:

>GK wrote:
>> Thank you for your courteous reply. I do pay attention. I thought
>> that these checkups were more standard. Perhaps they vary from
>> dealer to dealer. I don't know all Honda everywhere.

>> Here's what they will do at Planet Honda in Matteson, IL, for $240:

>> * change oil and filter

$25

>> * inspect belts and hoses

They're going to look at them and watch them go around. Modern belts don't
go bad at 15k miles, never-ever.

>> * clean, inspect, and adjust rear brakes

Assuming drum brakes here, put it in reverse and drive in reverse for
about 50 feet. Press the brake pedal 3~4 times over that distance. Pull
the rear wheels and blow out the dust w/an air hose. Doubtful they'll even
bother to pull the drums. They'll have the wheels off already for the
rotation, so this "extra" step will maybe add 30 seconds.

>> * inspect parking brake

They're going to set the brake and put the car in gear, forward & reverse
to see if the brake holds. Trust me, it will.

>> * rotate tires, inspect tires, set proper pressure

$20 (lifetime free rotation **AND** balance at NTB and Discount Tire
w/purchase of 2 or more tires) - This service by the way is probably one
of the best things you can do to prolong the life of your tires. Do it
every 5k miles and your tires will last a very long time.

>> * check all fluid levels

Included in the $25 oil change, above. Takes all of 2 minutes.

>> * check functions of all lights

Try them all and watch them through mirrors. Takes 1 minute.

>> * wiper/washer fluid levels

Included in the $25 oil change, above

>> * inspect battery (run test), clean terminals

Battery and charging system load tests are free at Autozone. Terminals
won't need cleaning at 15k miles so this is BS. Takes 5~10 minutes. If
they -really- did this it would require disconnecting the battery meaning
all your radio presets would be lost. If your radio presets are where they
were, then all they did was smear some red goo on the battery cable
connectors.

>> * inspect valves

Huh? How do they plan to do this without pulling off the intake manifold,
exhaust manifold(s) and doing a detailed disassembly of the cylinder
heads? This one I have to see. Maybe they meant they'll do a compression
check, but I even doubt that much effort will be expended at 15k miles.

>> * replace air filter

Adds $10~15 to your $25 oil change, above.

>> * change wiper inserts

$20 at Autozone. Tip the kid $5 and he'll probably put them on for you.
Send your wife in wearing some tight jeans and high heels, the kid will
put 'em on for free.

>About 1 to 1.5 hours of labor. Many other places do the same thing for
>30%-40% less. My local Midas shop does the same thing for $159 regular, and
>I have a $20 coupon for it.

>It is a lot of dopugh for some one to walk around your car with a checklist.

Indeed.

GK

I called the local Midas. They told me they do the whole package for
$29.95. They're having a special right now.

The only thing I need to watch for is if they do this, they might find
something "urgent" that needs $300+ immediate work. I'm sure that's how
they make the "special" pay for itself. But, at 15K it is doubtful
they'll really find anything.

GK

Bubba wrote:
> In article <a5idnVx5BajNIVPfRVn-og@comcast.com> "L Alpert"
> <alpertl@xxgmail.com> writes:
>
>
>>GK wrote:
>>
>>>Thank you for your courteous reply. I do pay attention. I thought
>>>that these checkups were more standard. Perhaps they vary from
>>>dealer to dealer. I don't know all Honda everywhere.
>
>
>>>Here's what they will do at Planet Honda in Matteson, IL, for $240:
>
>
>>>* change oil and filter
>
>
> $25
>
>
>>>* inspect belts and hoses
>
>
> They're going to look at them and watch them go around. Modern belts don't
> go bad at 15k miles, never-ever.
>
>
>>>* clean, inspect, and adjust rear brakes
>
>
> Assuming drum brakes here, put it in reverse and drive in reverse for
> about 50 feet. Press the brake pedal 3~4 times over that distance. Pull
> the rear wheels and blow out the dust w/an air hose. Doubtful they'll even
> bother to pull the drums. They'll have the wheels off already for the
> rotation, so this "extra" step will maybe add 30 seconds.
>
>
>>>* inspect parking brake
>
>
> They're going to set the brake and put the car in gear, forward & reverse
> to see if the brake holds. Trust me, it will.
>
>
>>>* rotate tires, inspect tires, set proper pressure
>
>
> $20 (lifetime free rotation **AND** balance at NTB and Discount Tire
> w/purchase of 2 or more tires) - This service by the way is probably one
> of the best things you can do to prolong the life of your tires. Do it
> every 5k miles and your tires will last a very long time.
>
>
>>>* check all fluid levels
>
>
> Included in the $25 oil change, above. Takes all of 2 minutes.
>
>
>>>* check functions of all lights
>
>
> Try them all and watch them through mirrors. Takes 1 minute.
>
>
>>>* wiper/washer fluid levels
>
>
> Included in the $25 oil change, above
>
>
>>>* inspect battery (run test), clean terminals
>
>
> Battery and charging system load tests are free at Autozone. Terminals
> won't need cleaning at 15k miles so this is BS. Takes 5~10 minutes. If
> they -really- did this it would require disconnecting the battery meaning
> all your radio presets would be lost. If your radio presets are where they
> were, then all they did was smear some red goo on the battery cable
> connectors.
>
>
>>>* inspect valves
>
>
> Huh? How do they plan to do this without pulling off the intake manifold,
> exhaust manifold(s) and doing a detailed disassembly of the cylinder
> heads? This one I have to see. Maybe they meant they'll do a compression
> check, but I even doubt that much effort will be expended at 15k miles.
>
>
>>>* replace air filter
>
>
> Adds $10~15 to your $25 oil change, above.
>
>
>>>* change wiper inserts
>
>
> $20 at Autozone. Tip the kid $5 and he'll probably put them on for you.
> Send your wife in wearing some tight jeans and high heels, the kid will
> put 'em on for free.
>
>
>>About 1 to 1.5 hours of labor. Many other places do the same thing for
>>30%-40% less. My local Midas shop does the same thing for $159 regular, and
>>I have a $20 coupon for it.
>
>
>>It is a lot of dopugh for some one to walk around your car with a checklist.
>
>
> Indeed.
>

GK

I called the local Midas. They told me they do the whole package for
$29.95. They're having a special right now.

The only thing I need to watch for is if they do this, they might find
something "urgent" that needs $300+ immediate work. I'm sure that's how
they make the "special" pay for itself. But, at 15K it is doubtful
they'll really find anything.

GK

Bubba wrote:
> In article <a5idnVx5BajNIVPfRVn-og@comcast.com> "L Alpert"
> <alpertl@xxgmail.com> writes:
>
>
>>GK wrote:
>>
>>>Thank you for your courteous reply. I do pay attention. I thought
>>>that these checkups were more standard. Perhaps they vary from
>>>dealer to dealer. I don't know all Honda everywhere.
>
>
>>>Here's what they will do at Planet Honda in Matteson, IL, for $240:
>
>
>>>* change oil and filter
>
>
> $25
>
>
>>>* inspect belts and hoses
>
>
> They're going to look at them and watch them go around. Modern belts don't
> go bad at 15k miles, never-ever.
>
>
>>>* clean, inspect, and adjust rear brakes
>
>
> Assuming drum brakes here, put it in reverse and drive in reverse for
> about 50 feet. Press the brake pedal 3~4 times over that distance. Pull
> the rear wheels and blow out the dust w/an air hose. Doubtful they'll even
> bother to pull the drums. They'll have the wheels off already for the
> rotation, so this "extra" step will maybe add 30 seconds.
>
>
>>>* inspect parking brake
>
>
> They're going to set the brake and put the car in gear, forward & reverse
> to see if the brake holds. Trust me, it will.
>
>
>>>* rotate tires, inspect tires, set proper pressure
>
>
> $20 (lifetime free rotation **AND** balance at NTB and Discount Tire
> w/purchase of 2 or more tires) - This service by the way is probably one
> of the best things you can do to prolong the life of your tires. Do it
> every 5k miles and your tires will last a very long time.
>
>
>>>* check all fluid levels
>
>
> Included in the $25 oil change, above. Takes all of 2 minutes.
>
>
>>>* check functions of all lights
>
>
> Try them all and watch them through mirrors. Takes 1 minute.
>
>
>>>* wiper/washer fluid levels
>
>
> Included in the $25 oil change, above
>
>
>>>* inspect battery (run test), clean terminals
>
>
> Battery and charging system load tests are free at Autozone. Terminals
> won't need cleaning at 15k miles so this is BS. Takes 5~10 minutes. If
> they -really- did this it would require disconnecting the battery meaning
> all your radio presets would be lost. If your radio presets are where they
> were, then all they did was smear some red goo on the battery cable
> connectors.
>
>
>>>* inspect valves
>
>
> Huh? How do they plan to do this without pulling off the intake manifold,
> exhaust manifold(s) and doing a detailed disassembly of the cylinder
> heads? This one I have to see. Maybe they meant they'll do a compression
> check, but I even doubt that much effort will be expended at 15k miles.
>
>
>>>* replace air filter
>
>
> Adds $10~15 to your $25 oil change, above.
>
>
>>>* change wiper inserts
>
>
> $20 at Autozone. Tip the kid $5 and he'll probably put them on for you.
> Send your wife in wearing some tight jeans and high heels, the kid will
> put 'em on for free.
>
>
>>About 1 to 1.5 hours of labor. Many other places do the same thing for
>>30%-40% less. My local Midas shop does the same thing for $159 regular, and
>>I have a $20 coupon for it.
>
>
>>It is a lot of dopugh for some one to walk around your car with a checklist.
>
>
> Indeed.
>

JeB

On Fri, 08 Jul 2005 17:27:05 GMT, GK <frodo@ameriNOSPMtech.net>
wrote:

>Thank you for your courteous reply. I do pay attention. I thought that
>these checkups were more standard. Perhaps they vary from dealer to
>dealer. I don't know all Honda everywhere.
>
>Here's what they will do at Planet Honda in Matteson, IL, for $240:
>
>* change oil and filter
>* inspect belts and hoses
>* clean, inspect, and adjust rear brakes
>* inspect parking brake
>* rotate tires, inspect tires, set proper pressure
>* check all fluid levels
>* check functions of all lights
>* wiper/washer fluid levels
>* inspect battery (run test), clean terminals
>* inspect valves
>* replace air filter
>* change wiper inserts
>

I'm not a mechanic or anything but that looks like about $30 in
parts and an hour's worth of somebody's time.

JeB

On Fri, 08 Jul 2005 17:27:05 GMT, GK <frodo@ameriNOSPMtech.net>
wrote:

>Thank you for your courteous reply. I do pay attention. I thought that
>these checkups were more standard. Perhaps they vary from dealer to
>dealer. I don't know all Honda everywhere.
>
>Here's what they will do at Planet Honda in Matteson, IL, for $240:
>
>* change oil and filter
>* inspect belts and hoses
>* clean, inspect, and adjust rear brakes
>* inspect parking brake
>* rotate tires, inspect tires, set proper pressure
>* check all fluid levels
>* check functions of all lights
>* wiper/washer fluid levels
>* inspect battery (run test), clean terminals
>* inspect valves
>* replace air filter
>* change wiper inserts
>

I'm not a mechanic or anything but that looks like about $30 in
parts and an hour's worth of somebody's time.

Bubba

In article <oaEze.2279$0w2.2193@newssvr19.news.prodigy.com> GK
<frodo@ameriNOSPMtech.net> writes:

>I called the local Midas. They told me they do the whole package for
>$29.95. They're having a special right now.

>The only thing I need to watch for is if they do this, they might find
>something "urgent" that needs $300+ immediate work. I'm sure that's how
>they make the "special" pay for itself. But, at 15K it is doubtful
>they'll really find anything.

That's a common 'gig' they all play. You take "ole Nellybelle" in to have
a belt tightened and you get the dreaded call 2 hrs later that your
muffler bearings are in urgent need of replacement and it'll be another
$200 or more. Find an auto repair shop that *won't* do that to you and you
have found yourself a priceless treasure. I'm happy to say I have found
just such a shop. Westheimer Auto Center 6233 Westheimer Rd in Houston,
TX. (Not Sal's)

Bubba

In article <oaEze.2279$0w2.2193@newssvr19.news.prodigy.com> GK
<frodo@ameriNOSPMtech.net> writes:

>I called the local Midas. They told me they do the whole package for
>$29.95. They're having a special right now.

>The only thing I need to watch for is if they do this, they might find
>something "urgent" that needs $300+ immediate work. I'm sure that's how
>they make the "special" pay for itself. But, at 15K it is doubtful
>they'll really find anything.

That's a common 'gig' they all play. You take "ole Nellybelle" in to have
a belt tightened and you get the dreaded call 2 hrs later that your
muffler bearings are in urgent need of replacement and it'll be another
$200 or more. Find an auto repair shop that *won't* do that to you and you
have found yourself a priceless treasure. I'm happy to say I have found
just such a shop. Westheimer Auto Center 6233 Westheimer Rd in Houston,
TX. (Not Sal's)

GK

Funny you should say that. That's what Midas said they would charge me
for doing that work.

GK

JeB wrote:
> On Fri, 08 Jul 2005 17:27:05 GMT, GK <frodo@ameriNOSPMtech.net>
> wrote:
>
>
>>Thank you for your courteous reply. I do pay attention. I thought that
>>these checkups were more standard. Perhaps they vary from dealer to
>>dealer. I don't know all Honda everywhere.
>>
>>Here's what they will do at Planet Honda in Matteson, IL, for $240:
>>
>>* change oil and filter
>>* inspect belts and hoses
>>* clean, inspect, and adjust rear brakes
>>* inspect parking brake
>>* rotate tires, inspect tires, set proper pressure
>>* check all fluid levels
>>* check functions of all lights
>>* wiper/washer fluid levels
>>* inspect battery (run test), clean terminals
>>* inspect valves
>>* replace air filter
>>* change wiper inserts
>>
>
>
> I'm not a mechanic or anything but that looks like about $30 in
> parts and an hour's worth of somebody's time.
>

GK

Funny you should say that. That's what Midas said they would charge me
for doing that work.

GK

JeB wrote:
> On Fri, 08 Jul 2005 17:27:05 GMT, GK <frodo@ameriNOSPMtech.net>
> wrote:
>
>
>>Thank you for your courteous reply. I do pay attention. I thought that
>>these checkups were more standard. Perhaps they vary from dealer to
>>dealer. I don't know all Honda everywhere.
>>
>>Here's what they will do at Planet Honda in Matteson, IL, for $240:
>>
>>* change oil and filter
>>* inspect belts and hoses
>>* clean, inspect, and adjust rear brakes
>>* inspect parking brake
>>* rotate tires, inspect tires, set proper pressure
>>* check all fluid levels
>>* check functions of all lights
>>* wiper/washer fluid levels
>>* inspect battery (run test), clean terminals
>>* inspect valves
>>* replace air filter
>>* change wiper inserts
>>
>
>
> I'm not a mechanic or anything but that looks like about $30 in
> parts and an hour's worth of somebody's time.
>

Howard

TOO MUCH MONEY! $240 is way to high for the services he will do. Perhaps$100
TO $125 is more realistic, providing he does all that's on that list. If he
won't budge from his ridiculous price, find another dealer or an independent
Honda specialist. It's good preventive maintenance to do all these
inspections to prevent problems or premature failure in the future.
Check out the Honda recommendations by clicking the link below. Make sure
the service done includes the steps indicated for your mileage. He should
probably find nothing that would need to be done except maybe tightening a
belt or two. There should be no need for a valve adjustment at this mileage.
You'll notice there is no maintenance suggested at 15000 miles. If I were
you, I'd rotate tires at the next oil change and at 20000 miles do that
maintenance.
http://www.freewebs.com/civicmaintain/civic.pdf
Good luck,
Howard

"GK" <frodo@ameriNOSPMtech.net> wrote in message
news:G%lze.2024$0w2.1524@newssvr19.news.prodigy.co m...
> I'm leasing a 2004 Honda Civic. It has just over 17,000 miles on it.
> I've been doing the regular maintenance, oil changes, etc.
>
> The dealer wants to do the suggested 15,000 mile checkup. It will cost
> me around $240.
>
> Is it worth it? I don't recall what it entails.
>
> GK



"GK" <frodo@ameriNOSPMtech.net> wrote in message
news:G%lze.2024$0w2.1524@newssvr19.news.prodigy.co m...
> I'm leasing a 2004 Honda Civic. It has just over 17,000 miles on it.
> I've been doing the regular maintenance, oil changes, etc.
>
> The dealer wants to do the suggested 15,000 mile checkup. It will cost
> me around $240.
>
> Is it worth it? I don't recall what it entails.
>
> GK

Howard

TOO MUCH MONEY! $240 is way to high for the services he will do. Perhaps$100
TO $125 is more realistic, providing he does all that's on that list. If he
won't budge from his ridiculous price, find another dealer or an independent
Honda specialist. It's good preventive maintenance to do all these
inspections to prevent problems or premature failure in the future.
Check out the Honda recommendations by clicking the link below. Make sure
the service done includes the steps indicated for your mileage. He should
probably find nothing that would need to be done except maybe tightening a
belt or two. There should be no need for a valve adjustment at this mileage.
You'll notice there is no maintenance suggested at 15000 miles. If I were
you, I'd rotate tires at the next oil change and at 20000 miles do that
maintenance.
http://www.freewebs.com/civicmaintain/civic.pdf
Good luck,
Howard

"GK" <frodo@ameriNOSPMtech.net> wrote in message
news:G%lze.2024$0w2.1524@newssvr19.news.prodigy.co m...
> I'm leasing a 2004 Honda Civic. It has just over 17,000 miles on it.
> I've been doing the regular maintenance, oil changes, etc.
>
> The dealer wants to do the suggested 15,000 mile checkup. It will cost
> me around $240.
>
> Is it worth it? I don't recall what it entails.
>
> GK



"GK" <frodo@ameriNOSPMtech.net> wrote in message
news:G%lze.2024$0w2.1524@newssvr19.news.prodigy.co m...
> I'm leasing a 2004 Honda Civic. It has just over 17,000 miles on it.
> I've been doing the regular maintenance, oil changes, etc.
>
> The dealer wants to do the suggested 15,000 mile checkup. It will cost
> me around $240.
>
> Is it worth it? I don't recall what it entails.
>
> GK

Howard Lester

My dealer charges $55 (less my customary 10% discount) for such services...
known as a "Minor Service." If the air filter needs replacement, then that'd
be somewhat extra for the filter.

The other Howard