1983 Dual Carb Setup
10-23-2004, 06:27 PM
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1983 Dual Carb Setup
Hi folks, I have an '83 Honda Prelude with a Motor from an 89 prelude. My
car didn't have the chip for fuel injection so I had to put the dual carbs
on the motor. I'm just having one hell of a time seting up the carbs so
it'll run correctly. Anywhere I might find help to do this? Most mechanics
say I need some kinda unisen(sin) thing to set'em up, is this true?
Any help would be appreciated, thanks!
Neal
car didn't have the chip for fuel injection so I had to put the dual carbs
on the motor. I'm just having one hell of a time seting up the carbs so
it'll run correctly. Anywhere I might find help to do this? Most mechanics
say I need some kinda unisen(sin) thing to set'em up, is this true?
Any help would be appreciated, thanks!
Neal
10-24-2004, 02:32 PM
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Re: 1983 Dual Carb Setup
The '84 Lude manual shows a carb synchronizer and adapters (in place of the
carb screens and air intake flanges) to measure the air flow through both
adapters. This is done prior to adjusting idle speed, mixture adjustment
(via propane enrichment method), fast idle, and carb float level
adjustments. If air flow is different:
1. loosen the carb adjusting screw locknut and adjust screw.
2. the screw only affects the right carb; turning the screw clockwise
decreases air flow, ccw increases airflow.
3. if flow rates can't be balanced, check for air leaks or carbon build up
on a throttle valve.
4. retighten adjusting screw locknut.
I always heard the dual carbs were a pain if they needed work. Never had
any fuel problems with my 84 before selling it for a 90 lude. If the 83 and
84 emission controls were the same, you must have eliminated half the vacuum
hoses during that swap. I had never seen so many hoses before or since!
Under what conditions do you have problems? (idle, power, cold, hot)
J.
"DTI TECH" <dtisidney@shaw.ca> wrote in message
news:aVAed.8239$%k.1958@pd7tw2no...
> Hi folks, I have an '83 Honda Prelude with a Motor from an 89 prelude. My
> car didn't have the chip for fuel injection so I had to put the dual carbs
> on the motor. I'm just having one hell of a time seting up the carbs so
> it'll run correctly. Anywhere I might find help to do this? Most
mechanics
> say I need some kinda unisen(sin) thing to set'em up, is this true?
>
> Any help would be appreciated, thanks!
>
> Neal
>
>
carb screens and air intake flanges) to measure the air flow through both
adapters. This is done prior to adjusting idle speed, mixture adjustment
(via propane enrichment method), fast idle, and carb float level
adjustments. If air flow is different:
1. loosen the carb adjusting screw locknut and adjust screw.
2. the screw only affects the right carb; turning the screw clockwise
decreases air flow, ccw increases airflow.
3. if flow rates can't be balanced, check for air leaks or carbon build up
on a throttle valve.
4. retighten adjusting screw locknut.
I always heard the dual carbs were a pain if they needed work. Never had
any fuel problems with my 84 before selling it for a 90 lude. If the 83 and
84 emission controls were the same, you must have eliminated half the vacuum
hoses during that swap. I had never seen so many hoses before or since!
Under what conditions do you have problems? (idle, power, cold, hot)
J.
"DTI TECH" <dtisidney@shaw.ca> wrote in message
news:aVAed.8239$%k.1958@pd7tw2no...
> Hi folks, I have an '83 Honda Prelude with a Motor from an 89 prelude. My
> car didn't have the chip for fuel injection so I had to put the dual carbs
> on the motor. I'm just having one hell of a time seting up the carbs so
> it'll run correctly. Anywhere I might find help to do this? Most
mechanics
> say I need some kinda unisen(sin) thing to set'em up, is this true?
>
> Any help would be appreciated, thanks!
>
> Neal
>
>
10-24-2004, 02:32 PM
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Re: 1983 Dual Carb Setup
The '84 Lude manual shows a carb synchronizer and adapters (in place of the
carb screens and air intake flanges) to measure the air flow through both
adapters. This is done prior to adjusting idle speed, mixture adjustment
(via propane enrichment method), fast idle, and carb float level
adjustments. If air flow is different:
1. loosen the carb adjusting screw locknut and adjust screw.
2. the screw only affects the right carb; turning the screw clockwise
decreases air flow, ccw increases airflow.
3. if flow rates can't be balanced, check for air leaks or carbon build up
on a throttle valve.
4. retighten adjusting screw locknut.
I always heard the dual carbs were a pain if they needed work. Never had
any fuel problems with my 84 before selling it for a 90 lude. If the 83 and
84 emission controls were the same, you must have eliminated half the vacuum
hoses during that swap. I had never seen so many hoses before or since!
Under what conditions do you have problems? (idle, power, cold, hot)
J.
"DTI TECH" <dtisidney@shaw.ca> wrote in message
news:aVAed.8239$%k.1958@pd7tw2no...
> Hi folks, I have an '83 Honda Prelude with a Motor from an 89 prelude. My
> car didn't have the chip for fuel injection so I had to put the dual carbs
> on the motor. I'm just having one hell of a time seting up the carbs so
> it'll run correctly. Anywhere I might find help to do this? Most
mechanics
> say I need some kinda unisen(sin) thing to set'em up, is this true?
>
> Any help would be appreciated, thanks!
>
> Neal
>
>
carb screens and air intake flanges) to measure the air flow through both
adapters. This is done prior to adjusting idle speed, mixture adjustment
(via propane enrichment method), fast idle, and carb float level
adjustments. If air flow is different:
1. loosen the carb adjusting screw locknut and adjust screw.
2. the screw only affects the right carb; turning the screw clockwise
decreases air flow, ccw increases airflow.
3. if flow rates can't be balanced, check for air leaks or carbon build up
on a throttle valve.
4. retighten adjusting screw locknut.
I always heard the dual carbs were a pain if they needed work. Never had
any fuel problems with my 84 before selling it for a 90 lude. If the 83 and
84 emission controls were the same, you must have eliminated half the vacuum
hoses during that swap. I had never seen so many hoses before or since!
Under what conditions do you have problems? (idle, power, cold, hot)
J.
"DTI TECH" <dtisidney@shaw.ca> wrote in message
news:aVAed.8239$%k.1958@pd7tw2no...
> Hi folks, I have an '83 Honda Prelude with a Motor from an 89 prelude. My
> car didn't have the chip for fuel injection so I had to put the dual carbs
> on the motor. I'm just having one hell of a time seting up the carbs so
> it'll run correctly. Anywhere I might find help to do this? Most
mechanics
> say I need some kinda unisen(sin) thing to set'em up, is this true?
>
> Any help would be appreciated, thanks!
>
> Neal
>
>
10-24-2004, 07:28 PM
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Re: 1983 Dual Carb Setup
DTI TECH wrote:
> Hi folks, I have an '83 Honda Prelude with a Motor from an 89 prelude. My
> car didn't have the chip for fuel injection so I had to put the dual carbs
> on the motor. I'm just having one hell of a time seting up the carbs so
> it'll run correctly. Anywhere I might find help to do this? Most mechanics
> say I need some kinda unisen(sin) thing to set'em up, is this true?
>
> Any help would be appreciated, thanks!
>
> Neal
>
>
are they new carbs? if so, just use a flow meter to balance them.
if they're old, i recommend you completely strip and recondition with a
kit you can easily buy. trying to balance bad carbs is an exercise in
futility.
you can make a rough [uncalibrated] flow meter from an old clear
ballpoint pen whose outer has a tapered center. drop a small glass bead
[needs to be reasonably heavy] in there, one whose size makes it nice &
loose at the top, but snug at the bottom. then attach a rubber hose to
the top, the wide end, and gradually place the other over the carb
idling air circuit inlet. keeping the pen vertical, the ball should
rise as the flow of air in the tube suspends it. "gradual" is very
important. if air gets sucked too quick, the momentum of the ball can
eject it from the tube and even drop it into the carb. you could try
preventing this by gating the top of the tube with a wire so the air can
pass, but not the ball. mark off the level the ball rises to, then
repeat for the other carb. adjust until both carbs are sucking the same
amount of air, as indicated by the ball rising the same amount. using
this method, you can easily balance 4 or more carbs without problems.
> Hi folks, I have an '83 Honda Prelude with a Motor from an 89 prelude. My
> car didn't have the chip for fuel injection so I had to put the dual carbs
> on the motor. I'm just having one hell of a time seting up the carbs so
> it'll run correctly. Anywhere I might find help to do this? Most mechanics
> say I need some kinda unisen(sin) thing to set'em up, is this true?
>
> Any help would be appreciated, thanks!
>
> Neal
>
>
are they new carbs? if so, just use a flow meter to balance them.
if they're old, i recommend you completely strip and recondition with a
kit you can easily buy. trying to balance bad carbs is an exercise in
futility.
you can make a rough [uncalibrated] flow meter from an old clear
ballpoint pen whose outer has a tapered center. drop a small glass bead
[needs to be reasonably heavy] in there, one whose size makes it nice &
loose at the top, but snug at the bottom. then attach a rubber hose to
the top, the wide end, and gradually place the other over the carb
idling air circuit inlet. keeping the pen vertical, the ball should
rise as the flow of air in the tube suspends it. "gradual" is very
important. if air gets sucked too quick, the momentum of the ball can
eject it from the tube and even drop it into the carb. you could try
preventing this by gating the top of the tube with a wire so the air can
pass, but not the ball. mark off the level the ball rises to, then
repeat for the other carb. adjust until both carbs are sucking the same
amount of air, as indicated by the ball rising the same amount. using
this method, you can easily balance 4 or more carbs without problems.
10-24-2004, 07:28 PM
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Re: 1983 Dual Carb Setup
DTI TECH wrote:
> Hi folks, I have an '83 Honda Prelude with a Motor from an 89 prelude. My
> car didn't have the chip for fuel injection so I had to put the dual carbs
> on the motor. I'm just having one hell of a time seting up the carbs so
> it'll run correctly. Anywhere I might find help to do this? Most mechanics
> say I need some kinda unisen(sin) thing to set'em up, is this true?
>
> Any help would be appreciated, thanks!
>
> Neal
>
>
are they new carbs? if so, just use a flow meter to balance them.
if they're old, i recommend you completely strip and recondition with a
kit you can easily buy. trying to balance bad carbs is an exercise in
futility.
you can make a rough [uncalibrated] flow meter from an old clear
ballpoint pen whose outer has a tapered center. drop a small glass bead
[needs to be reasonably heavy] in there, one whose size makes it nice &
loose at the top, but snug at the bottom. then attach a rubber hose to
the top, the wide end, and gradually place the other over the carb
idling air circuit inlet. keeping the pen vertical, the ball should
rise as the flow of air in the tube suspends it. "gradual" is very
important. if air gets sucked too quick, the momentum of the ball can
eject it from the tube and even drop it into the carb. you could try
preventing this by gating the top of the tube with a wire so the air can
pass, but not the ball. mark off the level the ball rises to, then
repeat for the other carb. adjust until both carbs are sucking the same
amount of air, as indicated by the ball rising the same amount. using
this method, you can easily balance 4 or more carbs without problems.
> Hi folks, I have an '83 Honda Prelude with a Motor from an 89 prelude. My
> car didn't have the chip for fuel injection so I had to put the dual carbs
> on the motor. I'm just having one hell of a time seting up the carbs so
> it'll run correctly. Anywhere I might find help to do this? Most mechanics
> say I need some kinda unisen(sin) thing to set'em up, is this true?
>
> Any help would be appreciated, thanks!
>
> Neal
>
>
are they new carbs? if so, just use a flow meter to balance them.
if they're old, i recommend you completely strip and recondition with a
kit you can easily buy. trying to balance bad carbs is an exercise in
futility.
you can make a rough [uncalibrated] flow meter from an old clear
ballpoint pen whose outer has a tapered center. drop a small glass bead
[needs to be reasonably heavy] in there, one whose size makes it nice &
loose at the top, but snug at the bottom. then attach a rubber hose to
the top, the wide end, and gradually place the other over the carb
idling air circuit inlet. keeping the pen vertical, the ball should
rise as the flow of air in the tube suspends it. "gradual" is very
important. if air gets sucked too quick, the momentum of the ball can
eject it from the tube and even drop it into the carb. you could try
preventing this by gating the top of the tube with a wire so the air can
pass, but not the ball. mark off the level the ball rises to, then
repeat for the other carb. adjust until both carbs are sucking the same
amount of air, as indicated by the ball rising the same amount. using
this method, you can easily balance 4 or more carbs without problems.
10-25-2004, 04:55 AM
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Re: 1983 Dual Carb Setup
DTI TECH wrote:
>
> Hi folks, I have an '83 Honda Prelude with a Motor from an 89 prelude. My
> car didn't have the chip for fuel injection so I had to put the dual carbs
> on the motor. I'm just having one hell of a time seting up the carbs so
> it'll run correctly. Anywhere I might find help to do this? Most
> mechanics say I need some kinda unisen(sin) thing to set'em up, is this
> true?
>
> Any help would be appreciated, thanks!
>
Didn't the '83 Lude have a triple carb setup with a small carb in the middle
of the other two for the CVCC valves? The Preludes lost their CVCC valves
in '84 and had a true "dual" carb setup. In addition to the comments from
the other posters, the presence of the auxiliary carburetor may be a
contributing factor to your problem.
Eric
>
> Hi folks, I have an '83 Honda Prelude with a Motor from an 89 prelude. My
> car didn't have the chip for fuel injection so I had to put the dual carbs
> on the motor. I'm just having one hell of a time seting up the carbs so
> it'll run correctly. Anywhere I might find help to do this? Most
> mechanics say I need some kinda unisen(sin) thing to set'em up, is this
> true?
>
> Any help would be appreciated, thanks!
>
Didn't the '83 Lude have a triple carb setup with a small carb in the middle
of the other two for the CVCC valves? The Preludes lost their CVCC valves
in '84 and had a true "dual" carb setup. In addition to the comments from
the other posters, the presence of the auxiliary carburetor may be a
contributing factor to your problem.
Eric
10-25-2004, 04:55 AM
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Re: 1983 Dual Carb Setup
DTI TECH wrote:
>
> Hi folks, I have an '83 Honda Prelude with a Motor from an 89 prelude. My
> car didn't have the chip for fuel injection so I had to put the dual carbs
> on the motor. I'm just having one hell of a time seting up the carbs so
> it'll run correctly. Anywhere I might find help to do this? Most
> mechanics say I need some kinda unisen(sin) thing to set'em up, is this
> true?
>
> Any help would be appreciated, thanks!
>
Didn't the '83 Lude have a triple carb setup with a small carb in the middle
of the other two for the CVCC valves? The Preludes lost their CVCC valves
in '84 and had a true "dual" carb setup. In addition to the comments from
the other posters, the presence of the auxiliary carburetor may be a
contributing factor to your problem.
Eric
>
> Hi folks, I have an '83 Honda Prelude with a Motor from an 89 prelude. My
> car didn't have the chip for fuel injection so I had to put the dual carbs
> on the motor. I'm just having one hell of a time seting up the carbs so
> it'll run correctly. Anywhere I might find help to do this? Most
> mechanics say I need some kinda unisen(sin) thing to set'em up, is this
> true?
>
> Any help would be appreciated, thanks!
>
Didn't the '83 Lude have a triple carb setup with a small carb in the middle
of the other two for the CVCC valves? The Preludes lost their CVCC valves
in '84 and had a true "dual" carb setup. In addition to the comments from
the other posters, the presence of the auxiliary carburetor may be a
contributing factor to your problem.
Eric
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