Elle

"Jim Yanik" <jyanik@abuse.gov> wrote
> "Elle" <honda.lioness@spamnocox.net> wrote in
> news:QB4Lj.9489$CO2.8378@newsfe12.phx:
>
>> "Grumpy AuContraire" <Grumpy@ExtraGrumpyville.com> wrote
>>>> I shall continue to consider swapping engines/bodies.
>>>
>>> Buy a high mileage Texas car, drive it to your location
>>> and use your's as a parts car...
>>
>> I have indeed noted a number of Civics for sale in Texas
>> in
>> the recent past, and it is indeed in the realm of
>> possibility for a purchase. Perhaps my next major tool
>> purchase will be an engine crane. Looks like Ebay has new
>> ones, but shipping/handling is more expensive than the
>> basic
>> price for most.
>>
>>
>>
>
> perhaps RENT one?
> A crane isn't something you would use very often....unless
> you're planning
> on doing a lot of motor swaps.;-)

Good suggestion, though I do technical/engineering work with
what I think is inordinate preparation and care, plus
knowing me, I'd probably want to repeat the procedure a few
times to master it (more or less). None of that "See it, do
it, teach it" bullshit from medicine for me and my beloved
Honda. ;-) So the rental fees might add up to the cost of
purchasing one. I will look for well cared for used ones,
perhaps. I should probably find myself a shell first.

No doubt I will have a long report on this if and when it
happens. So far it remains only a dream. Fact is reports
here show I have been contemplating replacing (one way or
another) my 91 Civic for something like five years or more.
Love the engine; annoyed with the body etc. rust. :-)

Dave Garrett

In article <QB4Lj.9489$CO2.8378@newsfe12.phx>,
honda.lioness@spamnocox.net says...
> "Grumpy AuContraire" <Grumpy@ExtraGrumpyville.com> wrote
> >> I shall continue to consider swapping engines/bodies.
> >
> > Buy a high mileage Texas car, drive it to your location
> > and use your's as a parts car...
>
> I have indeed noted a number of Civics for sale in Texas in
> the recent past, and it is indeed in the realm of
> possibility for a purchase.

Well, speaking of available CRXes in Texas, there's this one, but you
probably wouldn't want to use it for a parts car:

http://www.chemikdesigns.com/crx/

;-)

My own 1990 CRX Si is, I fear, bound for retirement - as of last week,
it has been supplanted by an electron blue pearl 2000 Civic Si with only
53K miles. Not sure if I can bring myself to sell the CRX after 15
years, but at this point it's almost a project car that was masquerading
as a daily driver, and I don't really have the time or space for such a
project.

Dave

Elle

"Dave Garrett" <dave@compassnet.com> wrote in message
news:MPG.2266ea45310bc62998a227@207.14.116.130...
> In article <QB4Lj.9489$CO2.8378@newsfe12.phx>,
> honda.lioness@spamnocox.net says...
>> "Grumpy AuContraire" <Grumpy@ExtraGrumpyville.com> wrote
>> >> I shall continue to consider swapping engines/bodies.
>> >
>> > Buy a high mileage Texas car, drive it to your location
>> > and use your's as a parts car...
>>
>> I have indeed noted a number of Civics for sale in Texas
>> in
>> the recent past, and it is indeed in the realm of
>> possibility for a purchase.
>
> Well, speaking of available CRXes in Texas, there's this
> one, but you
> probably wouldn't want to use it for a parts car:
>
> http://www.chemikdesigns.com/crx/

Ha, ya right. :-) Around half the CRX's on Ebay at any given
time are highly modified--different engine, muffler,
whatever. I wish the used car sites would break down cars by
"riced" vs. "OEM (or maybe Autozone) parts only." My upper
limit for a parts car is $1500, as well. My interest is fuel
economy, not racing like a 17-year-old teenage boy. :-)

> ;-)
>
> My own 1990 CRX Si is, I fear, bound for retirement - as
> of last week,
> it has been supplanted by an electron blue pearl 2000
> Civic Si with only
> 53K miles. Not sure if I can bring myself to sell the CRX
> after 15
> years, but at this point it's almost a project car that
> was masquerading
> as a daily driver, and I don't really have the time or
> space for such a
> project.

Happy "new" Civic!

Grumpy AuContraire

jim beam wrote:
> Grumpy AuContraire wrote:
>
>>
>>
>> Elle wrote:
>>
>>> "Jim Yanik" <jyanik@abuse.gov> wrote
>>>
>>>> My very first car was built from two Triumph Heralds(4 seat 2dr
>>>> sedan),one
>>>> whose motor had broken a rod and went thru the block.I had to swap the
>>>> motor with Dad's help and guidance,and then the driver's
>>>> door,convertible
>>>> top and trunk lid.
>>>> 1200cc's and slower than a VW,but a fun car that I drove all the way
>>>> out to
>>>> Denver(from Buffalo).It really didn't have enough power for the
>>>> mountains
>>>> and high altitude of Denver.USAF auto hobby shops were a valued asset!
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> Ha, a USAF auto hobby shop is what I need. :-)
>>>
>>> I shall continue to consider swapping engines/bodies.
>>>
>>
>>
>>
>> Buy a high mileage Texas car, drive it to your location and use your's
>> as a parts car...
>>
>> JT
>
>
>
> or california - couldn't agree more! you have to go a /loooong/ way to
> find anything that handles as well as a crx, even for a /lot/ more
> money. i think it's worth a little effort.
>


The only drawback with Texas cars are usually the interior is shot
including the dash. OTOH, the dash in most rust belt cars is the only
component that may be still perfect!

I'll never deal with a rust belt car again... Never!

JT

Grumpy AuContraire

Elle wrote:

> "Dave Garrett" <dave@compassnet.com> wrote in message
> news:MPG.2266ea45310bc62998a227@207.14.116.130...
>
>>In article <QB4Lj.9489$CO2.8378@newsfe12.phx>,
>>honda.lioness@spamnocox.net says...
>>
>>>"Grumpy AuContraire" <Grumpy@ExtraGrumpyville.com> wrote
>>>
>>>>>I shall continue to consider swapping engines/bodies.
>>>>
>>>>Buy a high mileage Texas car, drive it to your location
>>>>and use your's as a parts car...
>>>
>>>I have indeed noted a number of Civics for sale in Texas
>>>in
>>>the recent past, and it is indeed in the realm of
>>>possibility for a purchase.
>>
>>Well, speaking of available CRXes in Texas, there's this
>>one, but you
>>probably wouldn't want to use it for a parts car:
>>
>>http://www.chemikdesigns.com/crx/
>
>
> Ha, ya right. :-) Around half the CRX's on Ebay at any given
> time are highly modified--different engine, muffler,
> whatever. I wish the used car sites would break down cars by
> "riced" vs. "OEM (or maybe Autozone) parts only." My upper
> limit for a parts car is $1500, as well. My interest is fuel
> economy, not racing like a 17-year-old teenage boy. :-)
>
>
>>;-)
>>
>>My own 1990 CRX Si is, I fear, bound for retirement - as
>>of last week,
>>it has been supplanted by an electron blue pearl 2000
>>Civic Si with only
>>53K miles. Not sure if I can bring myself to sell the CRX
>>after 15
>>years, but at this point it's almost a project car that
>>was masquerading
>>as a daily driver, and I don't really have the time or
>>space for such a
>>project.
>
>
> Happy "new" Civic!
>
>


Watch Craig's list for cars in the Austin/San Antonio metro area. Avoid
vehicles from Houston. Other cities could include DFW and maybe El Paso.

You probably could by a drivable shell to take back to you current
location for a swap out. Might even be able to do it piecemeal so that
nothing is tied up for too long.

JT

(Who will never own a new car)

Jim Yanik

Grumpy AuContraire <Grumpy@ExtraGrumpyville.com> wrote in
news:CgbLj.84215$D_3.8557@bgtnsc05-news.ops.worldnet.att.net:


>
> Watch Craig's list for cars in the Austin/San Antonio metro area. Avoid
> vehicles from Houston. Other cities could include DFW and maybe El Paso.
>
> You probably could by a drivable shell to take back to you current
> location for a swap out. Might even be able to do it piecemeal so that
> nothing is tied up for too long.
>
> JT
>
> (Who will never own a new car)
>

also watch out for flood-damaged cars!

--
Jim Yanik
jyanik
at
kua.net

Dave Garrett

In article <CgbLj.84215$D_3.8557@bgtnsc05-news.ops.worldnet.att.net>,
Grumpy@ExtraGrumpyville.com says...

> Watch Craig's list for cars in the Austin/San Antonio metro area. Avoid
> vehicles from Houston. Other cities could include DFW and maybe El Paso.

Before I bought the "new" Civic, I was searching the Houston Craigslist
several times a day for "civic si" and "crx". One day I ran across an
'88 CRX Si that sounded too good to be true, and you know what they say
about deals like that. It was represented to be in immaculate condition,
one owner, everything worked, and the pics that were posted indicated
that the underhood area was clean enough to eat off of. The asking price
was $2500.

Figuring I had nothing to lose, I emailed the poster. After a day or
two, I assumed someone had beaten me to it, then I got the following
reply:

"The car is located in Detroit MI and it is in perfect condition, with
no need for additional repairs, no scratches, dings, special marks
whatsoever. It has 130k original miles and 40k engine rebuilt miles and
the vin# is [deleted] .It has a clear title ready to be signed and
notarized on your name. [...]
The price is $2,500 including shipping costs anywhere in the
continental US. There are no other costs regarding this transaction.
We will make this deal only under World Escrow protection because is
more safe. If you already decided to buy my car please send me your full
name and your full address and I will start a transaction with them. The
car will be shipped insured to your location with DAS and you will have
5 days for inspection."

Uh, yeah. I'll get right on that, as soon as I get the wire transfer
this nice man in Nigeria is sending me for helping him out.

Dave

Elle

"Dave Garrett" <dave@compassnet.com> wrote
> Grumpy@ExtraGrumpyville.com says...
>
>> Watch Craig's list for cars in the Austin/San Antonio
>> metro area. Avoid
>> vehicles from Houston. Other cities could include DFW and
>> maybe El Paso.
>
> Before I bought the "new" Civic, I was searching the
> Houston Craigslist
> several times a day for "civic si" and "crx". One day I
> ran across an
> '88 CRX Si that sounded too good to be true, and you know
> what they say
> about deals like that. It was represented to be in
> immaculate condition,
> one owner, everything worked, and the pics that were
> posted indicated
> that the underhood area was clean enough to eat off of.
> The asking price
> was $2500.
>
> Figuring I had nothing to lose, I emailed the poster.
> After a day or
> two, I assumed someone had beaten me to it, then I got the
> following
> reply:
>
> "The car is located in Detroit MI and it is in perfect
> condition,

Thanks for the caveat.

JT, I sure did check my local Craigslist and there actually
are a fair number of possibilities (especially shell wise),
at least, if the phone numbers are any guide. Maybe I should
not be surprised, given the relative ease of use Craigs List
offers? Dunno; I am not really familiar with it yet.

Grumpy AuContraire

Jim Yanik wrote:
> Grumpy AuContraire <Grumpy@ExtraGrumpyville.com> wrote in
> news:CgbLj.84215$D_3.8557@bgtnsc05-news.ops.worldnet.att.net:
>
>
>
>>Watch Craig's list for cars in the Austin/San Antonio metro area. Avoid
>>vehicles from Houston. Other cities could include DFW and maybe El Paso.
>>
>>You probably could by a drivable shell to take back to you current
>>location for a swap out. Might even be able to do it piecemeal so that
>>nothing is tied up for too long.
>>
>>JT
>>
>>(Who will never own a new car)
>>
>
>
> also watch out for flood-damaged cars!
>


Especially from New Orleans!

OTOH, I've seen (flash) fresh water flood cars revived after sitting for
ten years... As long as they weren't totally submerged.

JT

Grumpy AuContraire

Dave Garrett wrote:

> In article <CgbLj.84215$D_3.8557@bgtnsc05-news.ops.worldnet.att.net>,
> Grumpy@ExtraGrumpyville.com says...
>
>
>>Watch Craig's list for cars in the Austin/San Antonio metro area. Avoid
>>vehicles from Houston. Other cities could include DFW and maybe El Paso.
>
>
> Before I bought the "new" Civic, I was searching the Houston Craigslist
> several times a day for "civic si" and "crx". One day I ran across an
> '88 CRX Si that sounded too good to be true, and you know what they say
> about deals like that. It was represented to be in immaculate condition,
> one owner, everything worked, and the pics that were posted indicated
> that the underhood area was clean enough to eat off of. The asking price
> was $2500.
>
> Figuring I had nothing to lose, I emailed the poster. After a day or
> two, I assumed someone had beaten me to it, then I got the following
> reply:
>
> "The car is located in Detroit MI and it is in perfect condition, with
> no need for additional repairs, no scratches, dings, special marks
> whatsoever. It has 130k original miles and 40k engine rebuilt miles and
> the vin# is [deleted] .It has a clear title ready to be signed and
> notarized on your name. [...]
> The price is $2,500 including shipping costs anywhere in the
> continental US. There are no other costs regarding this transaction.
> We will make this deal only under World Escrow protection because is
> more safe. If you already decided to buy my car please send me your full
> name and your full address and I will start a transaction with them. The
> car will be shipped insured to your location with DAS and you will have
> 5 days for inspection."
>
> Uh, yeah. I'll get right on that, as soon as I get the wire transfer
> this nice man in Nigeria is sending me for helping him out.
>
> Dave
>


Yet, another varient of the textbook Nigerian scam...

<G>

JT

Grumpy AuContraire

Dave Garrett wrote:

> In article <CgbLj.84215$D_3.8557@bgtnsc05-news.ops.worldnet.att.net>,
> Grumpy@ExtraGrumpyville.com says...
>
>
>>Watch Craig's list for cars in the Austin/San Antonio metro area. Avoid
>>vehicles from Houston. Other cities could include DFW and maybe El Paso.
>
>
> Before I bought the "new" Civic, I was searching the Houston Craigslist
> several times a day for "civic si" and "crx". One day I ran across an
> '88 CRX Si that sounded too good to be true, and you know what they say
> about deals like that. It was represented to be in immaculate condition,
> one owner, everything worked, and the pics that were posted indicated
> that the underhood area was clean enough to eat off of. The asking price
> was $2500.
>
> Figuring I had nothing to lose, I emailed the poster. After a day or
> two, I assumed someone had beaten me to it, then I got the following
> reply:
>
> "The car is located in Detroit MI and it is in perfect condition, with
> no need for additional repairs, no scratches, dings, special marks
> whatsoever. It has 130k original miles and 40k engine rebuilt miles and
> the vin# is [deleted] .It has a clear title ready to be signed and
> notarized on your name. [...]
> The price is $2,500 including shipping costs anywhere in the
> continental US. There are no other costs regarding this transaction.
> We will make this deal only under World Escrow protection because is
> more safe. If you already decided to buy my car please send me your full
> name and your full address and I will start a transaction with them. The
> car will be shipped insured to your location with DAS and you will have
> 5 days for inspection."
>
> Uh, yeah. I'll get right on that, as soon as I get the wire transfer
> this nice man in Nigeria is sending me for helping him out.
>
> Dave
>


Here's a couple of CRX models that might be worth pusueing in the SF Bay
area.


http://sfbay.craigslist.org/sfc/car/633084780.html

http://sfbay.craigslist.org/sby/car/630991872.html


Of course, it pays if you can have someone look at it first!

JT

Grumpy AuContraire

Elle wrote:

>
> JT, I sure did check my local Craigslist and there actually
> are a fair number of possibilities (especially shell wise),
> at least, if the phone numbers are any guide. Maybe I should
> not be surprised, given the relative ease of use Craigs List
> offers? Dunno; I am not really familiar with it yet.
>
>


Craig's List is one of the major driving factors causing great pain to
main line newspapers. Why pay for a tiny classified ad when you can
post (with pictures) for free on Craig's...

Also, with the economy headed for the toilet, more bargains will be
popping up.

JT

Jim Yanik

Grumpy AuContraire <Grumpy@ExtraGrumpyville.com> wrote in
news:S%ULj.174240$cQ1.96543@bgtnsc04-news.ops.worldnet.att.net:

>
>
> Jim Yanik wrote:
>> Grumpy AuContraire <Grumpy@ExtraGrumpyville.com> wrote in
>> news:CgbLj.84215$D_3.8557@bgtnsc05-news.ops.worldnet.att.net:
>>
>>
>>
>>>Watch Craig's list for cars in the Austin/San Antonio metro area.
>>>Avoid vehicles from Houston. Other cities could include DFW and maybe
>>>El Paso.
>>>
>>>You probably could by a drivable shell to take back to you current
>>>location for a swap out. Might even be able to do it piecemeal so
>>>that nothing is tied up for too long.
>>>
>>>JT
>>>
>>>(Who will never own a new car)
>>>
>>
>>
>> also watch out for flood-damaged cars!
>>
>
>
> Especially from New Orleans!
and the whole western Gulf coast.Katrina effects were fairly wide.
>
> OTOH, I've seen (flash) fresh water flood cars revived after sitting
> for ten years... As long as they weren't totally submerged.
>
> JT
>
>

yeah,but if they get moldy....you'll not get the odor out,and it could be a
health risk.

--
Jim Yanik
jyanik
at
kua.net

jim beam

Jim Yanik wrote:
> Grumpy AuContraire <Grumpy@ExtraGrumpyville.com> wrote in
> news:S%ULj.174240$cQ1.96543@bgtnsc04-news.ops.worldnet.att.net:
>
>>
>> Jim Yanik wrote:
>>> Grumpy AuContraire <Grumpy@ExtraGrumpyville.com> wrote in
>>> news:CgbLj.84215$D_3.8557@bgtnsc05-news.ops.worldnet.att.net:
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>> Watch Craig's list for cars in the Austin/San Antonio metro area.
>>>> Avoid vehicles from Houston. Other cities could include DFW and maybe
>>>> El Paso.
>>>>
>>>> You probably could by a drivable shell to take back to you current
>>>> location for a swap out. Might even be able to do it piecemeal so
>>>> that nothing is tied up for too long.
>>>>
>>>> JT
>>>>
>>>> (Who will never own a new car)
>>>>
>>>
>>> also watch out for flood-damaged cars!
>>>
>>
>> Especially from New Orleans!
> and the whole western Gulf coast.Katrina effects were fairly wide.
>> OTOH, I've seen (flash) fresh water flood cars revived after sitting
>> for ten years... As long as they weren't totally submerged.
>>
>> JT
>>
>>
>
> yeah,but if they get moldy....you'll not get the odor out,and it could be a
> health risk.
>


i think that mold "health risk" stuff is over-blown. it's ubiquitous in
nature. and you should have seen some of the fungal cultures growing in
an ex gf's kitchen.

bottom line: /fear/ of mold is highly profitable. actual danger? how
many deciduous forests have you walked through and died? there, mold
exists by the ton, not microgram. spray some lysol and open a window if
you don't like the smell.

Dan C

On Sat, 12 Apr 2008 07:41:38 -0700, jim beam wrote:

> bottom line: /fear/ of mold is highly profitable. actual danger? how
> many deciduous forests have you walked through and died? there, mold
> exists by the ton, not microgram.

It's an open forest, not a closed-in car environment. Altogether
different.

> spray some lysol and open a window if you don't like the smell.

Damn, you're a dumb .


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