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Jonathan Upright 02-08-2004 09:19 PM

1990 Civic Seatbelt Problem
 
On my 1990 Civic LX 4-dr, my seatbelt (driver side) has ½ stopped working.
I say half because it will go one way, but not the other. It will disengage
when I open the door or turn off the car and remove the key from the
ignition, but when I close the door and start the car, it doesn't move. The
dash light flashes and I hear the constant beeping, so I assume the "sensor"
that detects the seatbelt's location is working properly. I've had to force
the seatbelt back to the "engaged" position and unplug the motor to keep my
sanity. My question is: Is this problem with the actual motor, or
something else? I managed to get a new motor for only $10, but before I go
to the aggravation of changing it, I would like a few second opinions. The
fact that it will go one way but not the other is what has me confused.

Thanx in advance!

Jonathan



Uncle Mike 02-08-2004 10:30 PM

Re: 1990 Civic Seatbelt Problem
 
In article <F6CVb.2807$4I6.524842@twister.southeast.rr.com> , "Jonathan Upright" <qaesar1@hotmail.com> wrote:
>On my 1990 Civic LX 4-dr, my seatbelt (driver side) has ½ stopped working.
>I say half because it will go one way, but not the other. It will disengage
>when I open the door or turn off the car and remove the key from the
>ignition, but when I close the door and start the car, it doesn't move. The
>dash light flashes and I hear the constant beeping, so I assume the "sensor"
>that detects the seatbelt's location is working properly. I've had to force
>the seatbelt back to the "engaged" position and unplug the motor to keep my
>sanity. My question is: Is this problem with the actual motor, or
>something else? I managed to get a new motor for only $10, but before I go
>to the aggravation of changing it, I would like a few second opinions. The
>fact that it will go one way but not the other is what has me confused.
>
>Thanx in advance!
>
>Jonathan


before you do anything, Honda's have a lifetime warranty on
seatbelt issues. See a dealer (as painfull as that sounds).

"alot is not a word"
Uncle Mike

Uncle Mike 02-08-2004 10:30 PM

Re: 1990 Civic Seatbelt Problem
 
In article <F6CVb.2807$4I6.524842@twister.southeast.rr.com> , "Jonathan Upright" <qaesar1@hotmail.com> wrote:
>On my 1990 Civic LX 4-dr, my seatbelt (driver side) has ½ stopped working.
>I say half because it will go one way, but not the other. It will disengage
>when I open the door or turn off the car and remove the key from the
>ignition, but when I close the door and start the car, it doesn't move. The
>dash light flashes and I hear the constant beeping, so I assume the "sensor"
>that detects the seatbelt's location is working properly. I've had to force
>the seatbelt back to the "engaged" position and unplug the motor to keep my
>sanity. My question is: Is this problem with the actual motor, or
>something else? I managed to get a new motor for only $10, but before I go
>to the aggravation of changing it, I would like a few second opinions. The
>fact that it will go one way but not the other is what has me confused.
>
>Thanx in advance!
>
>Jonathan


before you do anything, Honda's have a lifetime warranty on
seatbelt issues. See a dealer (as painfull as that sounds).

"alot is not a word"
Uncle Mike

Uncle Mike 02-08-2004 10:30 PM

Re: 1990 Civic Seatbelt Problem
 
In article <F6CVb.2807$4I6.524842@twister.southeast.rr.com> , "Jonathan Upright" <qaesar1@hotmail.com> wrote:
>On my 1990 Civic LX 4-dr, my seatbelt (driver side) has ½ stopped working.
>I say half because it will go one way, but not the other. It will disengage
>when I open the door or turn off the car and remove the key from the
>ignition, but when I close the door and start the car, it doesn't move. The
>dash light flashes and I hear the constant beeping, so I assume the "sensor"
>that detects the seatbelt's location is working properly. I've had to force
>the seatbelt back to the "engaged" position and unplug the motor to keep my
>sanity. My question is: Is this problem with the actual motor, or
>something else? I managed to get a new motor for only $10, but before I go
>to the aggravation of changing it, I would like a few second opinions. The
>fact that it will go one way but not the other is what has me confused.
>
>Thanx in advance!
>
>Jonathan


before you do anything, Honda's have a lifetime warranty on
seatbelt issues. See a dealer (as painfull as that sounds).

"alot is not a word"
Uncle Mike

Uncle Mike 02-08-2004 10:30 PM

Re: 1990 Civic Seatbelt Problem
 
In article <F6CVb.2807$4I6.524842@twister.southeast.rr.com> , "Jonathan Upright" <qaesar1@hotmail.com> wrote:
>On my 1990 Civic LX 4-dr, my seatbelt (driver side) has ½ stopped working.
>I say half because it will go one way, but not the other. It will disengage
>when I open the door or turn off the car and remove the key from the
>ignition, but when I close the door and start the car, it doesn't move. The
>dash light flashes and I hear the constant beeping, so I assume the "sensor"
>that detects the seatbelt's location is working properly. I've had to force
>the seatbelt back to the "engaged" position and unplug the motor to keep my
>sanity. My question is: Is this problem with the actual motor, or
>something else? I managed to get a new motor for only $10, but before I go
>to the aggravation of changing it, I would like a few second opinions. The
>fact that it will go one way but not the other is what has me confused.
>
>Thanx in advance!
>
>Jonathan


before you do anything, Honda's have a lifetime warranty on
seatbelt issues. See a dealer (as painfull as that sounds).

"alot is not a word"
Uncle Mike

Pailyn 02-09-2004 12:43 AM

Re: 1990 Civic Seatbelt Problem
 
This is good advice. I second it.
"Uncle Mike" <michaelhum@sympatico.ca> wrote in message
news:69DVb.953$sO4.220451@news20.bellglobal.com...
> In article <F6CVb.2807$4I6.524842@twister.southeast.rr.com> , "Jonathan

Upright" <qaesar1@hotmail.com> wrote:
> >On my 1990 Civic LX 4-dr, my seatbelt (driver side) has ½ stopped

working.
> >I say half because it will go one way, but not the other. It will

disengage
> >when I open the door or turn off the car and remove the key from the
> >ignition, but when I close the door and start the car, it doesn't move.

The
> >dash light flashes and I hear the constant beeping, so I assume the

"sensor"
> >that detects the seatbelt's location is working properly. I've had to

force
> >the seatbelt back to the "engaged" position and unplug the motor to keep

my
> >sanity. My question is: Is this problem with the actual motor, or
> >something else? I managed to get a new motor for only $10, but before I

go
> >to the aggravation of changing it, I would like a few second opinions.

The
> >fact that it will go one way but not the other is what has me confused.
> >
> >Thanx in advance!
> >
> >Jonathan

>
> before you do anything, Honda's have a lifetime warranty on
> seatbelt issues. See a dealer (as painfull as that sounds).
>
> "alot is not a word"
> Uncle Mike




Pailyn 02-09-2004 12:43 AM

Re: 1990 Civic Seatbelt Problem
 
This is good advice. I second it.
"Uncle Mike" <michaelhum@sympatico.ca> wrote in message
news:69DVb.953$sO4.220451@news20.bellglobal.com...
> In article <F6CVb.2807$4I6.524842@twister.southeast.rr.com> , "Jonathan

Upright" <qaesar1@hotmail.com> wrote:
> >On my 1990 Civic LX 4-dr, my seatbelt (driver side) has ½ stopped

working.
> >I say half because it will go one way, but not the other. It will

disengage
> >when I open the door or turn off the car and remove the key from the
> >ignition, but when I close the door and start the car, it doesn't move.

The
> >dash light flashes and I hear the constant beeping, so I assume the

"sensor"
> >that detects the seatbelt's location is working properly. I've had to

force
> >the seatbelt back to the "engaged" position and unplug the motor to keep

my
> >sanity. My question is: Is this problem with the actual motor, or
> >something else? I managed to get a new motor for only $10, but before I

go
> >to the aggravation of changing it, I would like a few second opinions.

The
> >fact that it will go one way but not the other is what has me confused.
> >
> >Thanx in advance!
> >
> >Jonathan

>
> before you do anything, Honda's have a lifetime warranty on
> seatbelt issues. See a dealer (as painfull as that sounds).
>
> "alot is not a word"
> Uncle Mike




Pailyn 02-09-2004 12:43 AM

Re: 1990 Civic Seatbelt Problem
 
This is good advice. I second it.
"Uncle Mike" <michaelhum@sympatico.ca> wrote in message
news:69DVb.953$sO4.220451@news20.bellglobal.com...
> In article <F6CVb.2807$4I6.524842@twister.southeast.rr.com> , "Jonathan

Upright" <qaesar1@hotmail.com> wrote:
> >On my 1990 Civic LX 4-dr, my seatbelt (driver side) has ½ stopped

working.
> >I say half because it will go one way, but not the other. It will

disengage
> >when I open the door or turn off the car and remove the key from the
> >ignition, but when I close the door and start the car, it doesn't move.

The
> >dash light flashes and I hear the constant beeping, so I assume the

"sensor"
> >that detects the seatbelt's location is working properly. I've had to

force
> >the seatbelt back to the "engaged" position and unplug the motor to keep

my
> >sanity. My question is: Is this problem with the actual motor, or
> >something else? I managed to get a new motor for only $10, but before I

go
> >to the aggravation of changing it, I would like a few second opinions.

The
> >fact that it will go one way but not the other is what has me confused.
> >
> >Thanx in advance!
> >
> >Jonathan

>
> before you do anything, Honda's have a lifetime warranty on
> seatbelt issues. See a dealer (as painfull as that sounds).
>
> "alot is not a word"
> Uncle Mike




Pailyn 02-09-2004 12:43 AM

Re: 1990 Civic Seatbelt Problem
 
This is good advice. I second it.
"Uncle Mike" <michaelhum@sympatico.ca> wrote in message
news:69DVb.953$sO4.220451@news20.bellglobal.com...
> In article <F6CVb.2807$4I6.524842@twister.southeast.rr.com> , "Jonathan

Upright" <qaesar1@hotmail.com> wrote:
> >On my 1990 Civic LX 4-dr, my seatbelt (driver side) has ½ stopped

working.
> >I say half because it will go one way, but not the other. It will

disengage
> >when I open the door or turn off the car and remove the key from the
> >ignition, but when I close the door and start the car, it doesn't move.

The
> >dash light flashes and I hear the constant beeping, so I assume the

"sensor"
> >that detects the seatbelt's location is working properly. I've had to

force
> >the seatbelt back to the "engaged" position and unplug the motor to keep

my
> >sanity. My question is: Is this problem with the actual motor, or
> >something else? I managed to get a new motor for only $10, but before I

go
> >to the aggravation of changing it, I would like a few second opinions.

The
> >fact that it will go one way but not the other is what has me confused.
> >
> >Thanx in advance!
> >
> >Jonathan

>
> before you do anything, Honda's have a lifetime warranty on
> seatbelt issues. See a dealer (as painfull as that sounds).
>
> "alot is not a word"
> Uncle Mike




Yuri Nebogatov 02-09-2004 10:26 AM

Re: 1990 Civic Seatbelt Problem
 
not to offend the poster, but dont bother with the dealer...
he'll tell you the warranty applies on the seatbelt itself and not the motor
& any other mechanism aside the belt
Basically even if the seatbelt itself is torn, he'll still try to annoy you
by blaming it on you & saying you cut it... but at least then you have a
shot.

Another thing he may pull, is say "the parts are covered but the labor is
not"... which is basically the same thing as saying "you'll pay the full
price".

silly, I know, but thats the way it is....


"Jonathan Upright" <qaesar1@hotmail.com> wrote in message
news:F6CVb.2807$4I6.524842@twister.southeast.rr.co m...
> On my 1990 Civic LX 4-dr, my seatbelt (driver side) has ½ stopped working.
> I say half because it will go one way, but not the other. It will

disengage
> when I open the door or turn off the car and remove the key from the
> ignition, but when I close the door and start the car, it doesn't move.

The
> dash light flashes and I hear the constant beeping, so I assume the

"sensor"
> that detects the seatbelt's location is working properly. I've had to

force
> the seatbelt back to the "engaged" position and unplug the motor to keep

my
> sanity. My question is: Is this problem with the actual motor, or
> something else? I managed to get a new motor for only $10, but before I

go
> to the aggravation of changing it, I would like a few second opinions.

The
> fact that it will go one way but not the other is what has me confused.
>
> Thanx in advance!
>
> Jonathan
>
>




Yuri Nebogatov 02-09-2004 10:26 AM

Re: 1990 Civic Seatbelt Problem
 
not to offend the poster, but dont bother with the dealer...
he'll tell you the warranty applies on the seatbelt itself and not the motor
& any other mechanism aside the belt
Basically even if the seatbelt itself is torn, he'll still try to annoy you
by blaming it on you & saying you cut it... but at least then you have a
shot.

Another thing he may pull, is say "the parts are covered but the labor is
not"... which is basically the same thing as saying "you'll pay the full
price".

silly, I know, but thats the way it is....


"Jonathan Upright" <qaesar1@hotmail.com> wrote in message
news:F6CVb.2807$4I6.524842@twister.southeast.rr.co m...
> On my 1990 Civic LX 4-dr, my seatbelt (driver side) has ½ stopped working.
> I say half because it will go one way, but not the other. It will

disengage
> when I open the door or turn off the car and remove the key from the
> ignition, but when I close the door and start the car, it doesn't move.

The
> dash light flashes and I hear the constant beeping, so I assume the

"sensor"
> that detects the seatbelt's location is working properly. I've had to

force
> the seatbelt back to the "engaged" position and unplug the motor to keep

my
> sanity. My question is: Is this problem with the actual motor, or
> something else? I managed to get a new motor for only $10, but before I

go
> to the aggravation of changing it, I would like a few second opinions.

The
> fact that it will go one way but not the other is what has me confused.
>
> Thanx in advance!
>
> Jonathan
>
>




Yuri Nebogatov 02-09-2004 10:26 AM

Re: 1990 Civic Seatbelt Problem
 
not to offend the poster, but dont bother with the dealer...
he'll tell you the warranty applies on the seatbelt itself and not the motor
& any other mechanism aside the belt
Basically even if the seatbelt itself is torn, he'll still try to annoy you
by blaming it on you & saying you cut it... but at least then you have a
shot.

Another thing he may pull, is say "the parts are covered but the labor is
not"... which is basically the same thing as saying "you'll pay the full
price".

silly, I know, but thats the way it is....


"Jonathan Upright" <qaesar1@hotmail.com> wrote in message
news:F6CVb.2807$4I6.524842@twister.southeast.rr.co m...
> On my 1990 Civic LX 4-dr, my seatbelt (driver side) has ½ stopped working.
> I say half because it will go one way, but not the other. It will

disengage
> when I open the door or turn off the car and remove the key from the
> ignition, but when I close the door and start the car, it doesn't move.

The
> dash light flashes and I hear the constant beeping, so I assume the

"sensor"
> that detects the seatbelt's location is working properly. I've had to

force
> the seatbelt back to the "engaged" position and unplug the motor to keep

my
> sanity. My question is: Is this problem with the actual motor, or
> something else? I managed to get a new motor for only $10, but before I

go
> to the aggravation of changing it, I would like a few second opinions.

The
> fact that it will go one way but not the other is what has me confused.
>
> Thanx in advance!
>
> Jonathan
>
>




Yuri Nebogatov 02-09-2004 10:26 AM

Re: 1990 Civic Seatbelt Problem
 
not to offend the poster, but dont bother with the dealer...
he'll tell you the warranty applies on the seatbelt itself and not the motor
& any other mechanism aside the belt
Basically even if the seatbelt itself is torn, he'll still try to annoy you
by blaming it on you & saying you cut it... but at least then you have a
shot.

Another thing he may pull, is say "the parts are covered but the labor is
not"... which is basically the same thing as saying "you'll pay the full
price".

silly, I know, but thats the way it is....


"Jonathan Upright" <qaesar1@hotmail.com> wrote in message
news:F6CVb.2807$4I6.524842@twister.southeast.rr.co m...
> On my 1990 Civic LX 4-dr, my seatbelt (driver side) has ½ stopped working.
> I say half because it will go one way, but not the other. It will

disengage
> when I open the door or turn off the car and remove the key from the
> ignition, but when I close the door and start the car, it doesn't move.

The
> dash light flashes and I hear the constant beeping, so I assume the

"sensor"
> that detects the seatbelt's location is working properly. I've had to

force
> the seatbelt back to the "engaged" position and unplug the motor to keep

my
> sanity. My question is: Is this problem with the actual motor, or
> something else? I managed to get a new motor for only $10, but before I

go
> to the aggravation of changing it, I would like a few second opinions.

The
> fact that it will go one way but not the other is what has me confused.
>
> Thanx in advance!
>
> Jonathan
>
>




Eric 02-09-2004 07:28 PM

Re: 1990 Civic Seatbelt Problem
 
Yuri Nebogatov wrote:
>
> not to offend the poster, but dont bother with the dealer...
> he'll tell you the warranty applies on the seatbelt itself and not the
> motor & any other mechanism aside the belt


This is not entirely correct. Honda issued a recall for the '88-91 Civic
that covered the seat belt's latching mechanism. Clearly, this recall did
not involve the actual belt.

Eric 02-09-2004 07:28 PM

Re: 1990 Civic Seatbelt Problem
 
Yuri Nebogatov wrote:
>
> not to offend the poster, but dont bother with the dealer...
> he'll tell you the warranty applies on the seatbelt itself and not the
> motor & any other mechanism aside the belt


This is not entirely correct. Honda issued a recall for the '88-91 Civic
that covered the seat belt's latching mechanism. Clearly, this recall did
not involve the actual belt.


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