1991 civic won't start...
 

the car turned back on me on NY's eve :(((
here's the problem, i started it, and it just stopped aftert approx. 15
seconds idling. after that, every attempt of starting it was useless. i
inspected the sparkplugs, and apparently they are not getting fire. i'm not
getting any error codes...

distributor cap and wires are ok.
could it be the ignition coil?

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Re: 1991 civic won't start...
 

i forgot, engine is 1.5i - D15B1

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Re: 1991 civic won't start...
 

After you check it the rotor is still spinning (to make sure your belt
isn't broken), check your ignitor as that is a common Civic problem.
There are many different posts out there on how to check it.

Re: 1991 civic won't start...
 

After you check it the rotor is still spinning (to make sure your belt
isn't broken), check your ignitor as that is a common Civic problem.
There are many different posts out there on how to check it.

Re: 1991 civic won't start...
 

djo wrote:
> the car turned back on me on NY's eve :(((
> here's the problem, i started it, and it just stopped aftert approx. 15
> seconds idling. after that, every attempt of starting it was useless. i
> inspected the sparkplugs, and apparently they are not getting fire. i'm not
> getting any error codes...
>
> distributor cap and wires are ok.
> could it be the ignition coil?
>

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Does the rotor actually spin when the engine is cranked ?(it's driven by
the timing belt) You won't get spark if the camshaft isn't rotating.

'Curly'

Re: 1991 civic won't start...
 

djo wrote:
> the car turned back on me on NY's eve :(((
> here's the problem, i started it, and it just stopped aftert approx. 15
> seconds idling. after that, every attempt of starting it was useless. i
> inspected the sparkplugs, and apparently they are not getting fire. i'm not
> getting any error codes...
>
> distributor cap and wires are ok.
> could it be the ignition coil?
>

---------------

Does the rotor actually spin when the engine is cranked ?(it's driven by
the timing belt) You won't get spark if the camshaft isn't rotating.

'Curly'

Re: 1991 civic won't start...
 

motsco_ _" <"motsco_ _ wrote:
> Does the rotor actually spin when the engine is cranked ?(it's driven
> by the timing belt) You won't get spark if the camshaft isn't
> rotating.

yes, the rotor spins. i'm sure of that, 'cause i've seen it in one position
when i disassembled distributor for the first time, and in different
position after cranking and another distributor disassembly...

i hope you'll understand what i was trying to say :)))

my english is not all that well...

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Re: 1991 civic won't start...
 

motsco_ _" <"motsco_ _ wrote:
> Does the rotor actually spin when the engine is cranked ?(it's driven
> by the timing belt) You won't get spark if the camshaft isn't
> rotating.

yes, the rotor spins. i'm sure of that, 'cause i've seen it in one position
when i disassembled distributor for the first time, and in different
position after cranking and another distributor disassembly...

i hope you'll understand what i was trying to say :)))

my english is not all that well...

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Re: 1991 civic won't start...
 

Open up the distributor and first check to see if you have 12V coming
to the coil.

If so, check the primary and secondary of the coil. They are harder to
check out of circuit because of the lower resistance on the primary
(3-4 ohms) and higher resistance on the secondary (10K or so). The
reading is also affected by temperature. Just make sure you don't see
an open or infinite restance. Visually inspect your coil for 'arc
throughs' - this is where the plastic has broken down and the coil is
arcing to the distributor case - you'll note some discoloration on the
plastic, if that is the case.

You can check the ignitor by putting a small bulb (or an LED with a 470
ohms in series, noting the polarity) across the coil's primary and
starting the car. If your bulb flashes, your ignitor is good and the
problem is within your coil, rotor, cap, wires, etc.
If it doesn't flash, very often the ignitor is bad but it could also be
whatever drives the ignitor.

My money is on the ignitor, though, as that is a very common problem in
Hondas. They are expensive but if you shop around, you can probably get
them at a much lower price than at your dealership.
Hope this helps.
Remco

Re: 1991 civic won't start...
 

Open up the distributor and first check to see if you have 12V coming
to the coil.

If so, check the primary and secondary of the coil. They are harder to
check out of circuit because of the lower resistance on the primary
(3-4 ohms) and higher resistance on the secondary (10K or so). The
reading is also affected by temperature. Just make sure you don't see
an open or infinite restance. Visually inspect your coil for 'arc
throughs' - this is where the plastic has broken down and the coil is
arcing to the distributor case - you'll note some discoloration on the
plastic, if that is the case.

You can check the ignitor by putting a small bulb (or an LED with a 470
ohms in series, noting the polarity) across the coil's primary and
starting the car. If your bulb flashes, your ignitor is good and the
problem is within your coil, rotor, cap, wires, etc.
If it doesn't flash, very often the ignitor is bad but it could also be
whatever drives the ignitor.

My money is on the ignitor, though, as that is a very common problem in
Hondas. They are expensive but if you shop around, you can probably get
them at a much lower price than at your dealership.
Hope this helps.
Remco

Re: 1991 civic won't start...
 

"Remco" <whybcuz@yahoo.com> wrote in
news:1104870729.861264.107280@z14g2000cwz.googlegr oups.com:

> Open up the distributor and first check to see if you have 12V coming
> to the coil.
>
> If so, check the primary and secondary of the coil. They are harder to
> check out of circuit because of the lower resistance on the primary
> (3-4 ohms) and higher resistance on the secondary (10K or so). The
> reading is also affected by temperature. Just make sure you don't see
> an open or infinite restance. Visually inspect your coil for 'arc
> throughs' - this is where the plastic has broken down and the coil is
> arcing to the distributor case - you'll note some discoloration on the
> plastic, if that is the case.
>
> You can check the ignitor by putting a small bulb (or an LED with a 470
> ohms in series, noting the polarity) across the coil's primary and
> starting the car. If your bulb flashes, your ignitor is good and the
> problem is within your coil, rotor, cap, wires, etc.
> If it doesn't flash, very often the ignitor is bad but it could also be
> whatever drives the ignitor.
>
> My money is on the ignitor, though, as that is a very common problem in
> Hondas. They are expensive but if you shop around, you can probably get
> them at a much lower price than at your dealership.
> Hope this helps.
> Remco
>
>

this site also has data and pix on the ignitor;
http://www.markl.f9.co.uk/howto/elec...main-relay.htm


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Re: 1991 civic won't start...
 

"Remco" <whybcuz@yahoo.com> wrote in
news:1104870729.861264.107280@z14g2000cwz.googlegr oups.com:

> Open up the distributor and first check to see if you have 12V coming
> to the coil.
>
> If so, check the primary and secondary of the coil. They are harder to
> check out of circuit because of the lower resistance on the primary
> (3-4 ohms) and higher resistance on the secondary (10K or so). The
> reading is also affected by temperature. Just make sure you don't see
> an open or infinite restance. Visually inspect your coil for 'arc
> throughs' - this is where the plastic has broken down and the coil is
> arcing to the distributor case - you'll note some discoloration on the
> plastic, if that is the case.
>
> You can check the ignitor by putting a small bulb (or an LED with a 470
> ohms in series, noting the polarity) across the coil's primary and
> starting the car. If your bulb flashes, your ignitor is good and the
> problem is within your coil, rotor, cap, wires, etc.
> If it doesn't flash, very often the ignitor is bad but it could also be
> whatever drives the ignitor.
>
> My money is on the ignitor, though, as that is a very common problem in
> Hondas. They are expensive but if you shop around, you can probably get
> them at a much lower price than at your dealership.
> Hope this helps.
> Remco
>
>

this site also has data and pix on the ignitor;
http://www.markl.f9.co.uk/howto/elec...main-relay.htm


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jyanik
at
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Re: 1991 civic won't start...
 

Jim Yanik wrote:
> this site also has data and pix on the ignitor;
> http://www.markl.f9.co.uk/howto/elec...main-relay.htm

thanx...

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Re: 1991 civic won't start...
 

Jim Yanik wrote:
> this site also has data and pix on the ignitor;
> http://www.markl.f9.co.uk/howto/elec...main-relay.htm

thanx...

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Re: 1991 civic won't start...
 

If it is not the main relay, it could be the solenoid inside the
distributor, not the coil, but the other pack.

"djo" <vebmejl@makniovoakosaljesmejlnet.hr> wrote in message
news:crfe82$chn$1@bagan.srce.hr...
> Jim Yanik wrote:
> > this site also has data and pix on the ignitor;
> > http://www.markl.f9.co.uk/howto/elec...main-relay.htm
>
> thanx...
>
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