Bridget

On Sep 28, 9:44 pm, jim beam <spamvor...@bad.example.net> wrote:
> Bridget wrote:
> > On Sep 9, 1:53 pm, "Elle" <honda.lion...@nospam.earthlink.net> wrote:
> >> I would start by checking the coolant in the cooling system
> >> reservoir. If it's not between the max and min lines, then
> >> fill to the max line.
>
> >> Certain engine control sensors must be immersed in coolant
> >> to work properly. If the coolant is at all low, they may not
> >> be immersed. The sensors then send the wrong signal to the
> >> fuel and air control systems.
>
> >> Especially if the coolant was recently replaced, do this. It
> >> costs little and is a common cause of the problem you
> >> describe.
>
> >> There are others. Start here, though.
>
> >> Please confirm whether
> >> -- OEM ignition wires and spark plugs were used
> >> -- the air and fuel filters were replaced. If not, when were
> >> they last replaced?
> >> -- the battery is old. This is for the slow-to-catch
> >> problem. Battery age in years and miles, please? What make
> >> of battery is now installed? Do you have a multimeter to
> >> check its voltage with the car off and on?
>
> >> "Bridget" <rbwhi...@megalink.net> wrote
>
> >>> I have a 93 Accord EX with 158K miles, 5 speed manual, with
> >>> an
> >>> intermittent problem. It sometimes hesitates while
> >>> accelerating at
> >>> low rpm. It happens when I shift to 2nd or from 2nd to 3rd
> >>> or when
> >>> going around a corner in 3rd and then trying to
> >>> accelerate. It seems
> >>> to go away when the rpms get higher.
> >>> The main relay was replaced in June 06 when the car would
> >>> not start
> >>> (crank but not start). This hesitation/jerking/stumbling
> >>> problem is
> >>> recent. Last week I had a tune-up at Honda dealer - spark
> >>> plugs were
> >>> replaced and timing, belts, hoses & filters were checked.
> >>> The fuel
> >>> relay (Relay RZ 39400-SM4) was replaced. It did not fix
> >>> the problem.
> >>> Also, sometimes when I start the car it sounds like it
> >>> isn't going to
> >>> catch but then does. Again, it doesn't do this all the
> >>> time.
> >>> Any ideas on how to fix this problem without replacing
> >>> everything in
> >>> the car?
> >>> Thank you for any advice.- Hide quoted text -
> >> - Show quoted text -
>
> > I checked the coolant and it is okay. The battery is a Honda battery
> > replaced by the Honda dealer in December, 2006, so I doubt that could
> > be a problem. I've done a little research and the things that come up
> > are: throttle body & the EGR thing and the main relay. As I said
> > before the main relay was replaced last year. Could a dirty throttle
> > body cause both the hesitation and the starting problem? Why would
> > both things happen at once?
>
> > Thanks, Bridget.
>
> are you getting a code?- Hide quoted text -
>
> - Show quoted text -

The problem is intermittent and although it happens daily, it doesn't
seem to happen for the mechanic. I guess the mechanic doesn't have
the time to drive the car around for a little while. I'm nearly
certain that no code showed up.

A suggestion was made to try Techron injector cleaner - should I try
that? I don't want to mess anything up. The car always eventually
starts..so far.

Thanks.

Bridget

On Sep 28, 9:44 pm, jim beam <spamvor...@bad.example.net> wrote:
> Bridget wrote:
> > On Sep 9, 1:53 pm, "Elle" <honda.lion...@nospam.earthlink.net> wrote:
> >> I would start by checking the coolant in the cooling system
> >> reservoir. If it's not between the max and min lines, then
> >> fill to the max line.
>
> >> Certain engine control sensors must be immersed in coolant
> >> to work properly. If the coolant is at all low, they may not
> >> be immersed. The sensors then send the wrong signal to the
> >> fuel and air control systems.
>
> >> Especially if the coolant was recently replaced, do this. It
> >> costs little and is a common cause of the problem you
> >> describe.
>
> >> There are others. Start here, though.
>
> >> Please confirm whether
> >> -- OEM ignition wires and spark plugs were used
> >> -- the air and fuel filters were replaced. If not, when were
> >> they last replaced?
> >> -- the battery is old. This is for the slow-to-catch
> >> problem. Battery age in years and miles, please? What make
> >> of battery is now installed? Do you have a multimeter to
> >> check its voltage with the car off and on?
>
> >> "Bridget" <rbwhi...@megalink.net> wrote
>
> >>> I have a 93 Accord EX with 158K miles, 5 speed manual, with
> >>> an
> >>> intermittent problem. It sometimes hesitates while
> >>> accelerating at
> >>> low rpm. It happens when I shift to 2nd or from 2nd to 3rd
> >>> or when
> >>> going around a corner in 3rd and then trying to
> >>> accelerate. It seems
> >>> to go away when the rpms get higher.
> >>> The main relay was replaced in June 06 when the car would
> >>> not start
> >>> (crank but not start). This hesitation/jerking/stumbling
> >>> problem is
> >>> recent. Last week I had a tune-up at Honda dealer - spark
> >>> plugs were
> >>> replaced and timing, belts, hoses & filters were checked.
> >>> The fuel
> >>> relay (Relay RZ 39400-SM4) was replaced. It did not fix
> >>> the problem.
> >>> Also, sometimes when I start the car it sounds like it
> >>> isn't going to
> >>> catch but then does. Again, it doesn't do this all the
> >>> time.
> >>> Any ideas on how to fix this problem without replacing
> >>> everything in
> >>> the car?
> >>> Thank you for any advice.- Hide quoted text -
> >> - Show quoted text -
>
> > I checked the coolant and it is okay. The battery is a Honda battery
> > replaced by the Honda dealer in December, 2006, so I doubt that could
> > be a problem. I've done a little research and the things that come up
> > are: throttle body & the EGR thing and the main relay. As I said
> > before the main relay was replaced last year. Could a dirty throttle
> > body cause both the hesitation and the starting problem? Why would
> > both things happen at once?
>
> > Thanks, Bridget.
>
> are you getting a code?- Hide quoted text -
>
> - Show quoted text -

The problem is intermittent and although it happens daily, it doesn't
seem to happen for the mechanic. I guess the mechanic doesn't have
the time to drive the car around for a little while. I'm nearly
certain that no code showed up.

A suggestion was made to try Techron injector cleaner - should I try
that? I don't want to mess anything up. The car always eventually
starts..so far.

Thanks.

jim beam

Bridget wrote:
> On Sep 28, 9:44 pm, jim beam <spamvor...@bad.example.net> wrote:
>> Bridget wrote:
>>> On Sep 9, 1:53 pm, "Elle" <honda.lion...@nospam.earthlink.net> wrote:
>>>> I would start by checking the coolant in the cooling system
>>>> reservoir. If it's not between the max and min lines, then
>>>> fill to the max line.
>>>> Certain engine control sensors must be immersed in coolant
>>>> to work properly. If the coolant is at all low, they may not
>>>> be immersed. The sensors then send the wrong signal to the
>>>> fuel and air control systems.
>>>> Especially if the coolant was recently replaced, do this. It
>>>> costs little and is a common cause of the problem you
>>>> describe.
>>>> There are others. Start here, though.
>>>> Please confirm whether
>>>> -- OEM ignition wires and spark plugs were used
>>>> -- the air and fuel filters were replaced. If not, when were
>>>> they last replaced?
>>>> -- the battery is old. This is for the slow-to-catch
>>>> problem. Battery age in years and miles, please? What make
>>>> of battery is now installed? Do you have a multimeter to
>>>> check its voltage with the car off and on?
>>>> "Bridget" <rbwhi...@megalink.net> wrote
>>>>> I have a 93 Accord EX with 158K miles, 5 speed manual, with
>>>>> an
>>>>> intermittent problem. It sometimes hesitates while
>>>>> accelerating at
>>>>> low rpm. It happens when I shift to 2nd or from 2nd to 3rd
>>>>> or when
>>>>> going around a corner in 3rd and then trying to
>>>>> accelerate. It seems
>>>>> to go away when the rpms get higher.
>>>>> The main relay was replaced in June 06 when the car would
>>>>> not start
>>>>> (crank but not start). This hesitation/jerking/stumbling
>>>>> problem is
>>>>> recent. Last week I had a tune-up at Honda dealer - spark
>>>>> plugs were
>>>>> replaced and timing, belts, hoses & filters were checked.
>>>>> The fuel
>>>>> relay (Relay RZ 39400-SM4) was replaced. It did not fix
>>>>> the problem.
>>>>> Also, sometimes when I start the car it sounds like it
>>>>> isn't going to
>>>>> catch but then does. Again, it doesn't do this all the
>>>>> time.
>>>>> Any ideas on how to fix this problem without replacing
>>>>> everything in
>>>>> the car?
>>>>> Thank you for any advice.- Hide quoted text -
>>>> - Show quoted text -
>>> I checked the coolant and it is okay. The battery is a Honda battery
>>> replaced by the Honda dealer in December, 2006, so I doubt that could
>>> be a problem. I've done a little research and the things that come up
>>> are: throttle body & the EGR thing and the main relay. As I said
>>> before the main relay was replaced last year. Could a dirty throttle
>>> body cause both the hesitation and the starting problem? Why would
>>> both things happen at once?
>>> Thanks, Bridget.
>> are you getting a code?- Hide quoted text -
>>
>> - Show quoted text -
>
> The problem is intermittent and although it happens daily, it doesn't
> seem to happen for the mechanic. I guess the mechanic doesn't have
> the time to drive the car around for a little while. I'm nearly
> certain that no code showed up.
>
> A suggestion was made to try Techron injector cleaner - should I try
> that? I don't want to mess anything up. The car always eventually
> starts..so far.
>
> Thanks.
>


how many keys on your key ring? do you make sure the ignition is fully
in the "run" position after you start the engine or do you just release
the key? sometimes the ignition switches go, particularly under the
conditions i just asked about. if yours is on the way out, you'll have
intermittent running problems.

in the mean time, are you getting any engine codes? go to tegger.com
for info on how to read.

jim beam

Bridget wrote:
> On Sep 28, 9:44 pm, jim beam <spamvor...@bad.example.net> wrote:
>> Bridget wrote:
>>> On Sep 9, 1:53 pm, "Elle" <honda.lion...@nospam.earthlink.net> wrote:
>>>> I would start by checking the coolant in the cooling system
>>>> reservoir. If it's not between the max and min lines, then
>>>> fill to the max line.
>>>> Certain engine control sensors must be immersed in coolant
>>>> to work properly. If the coolant is at all low, they may not
>>>> be immersed. The sensors then send the wrong signal to the
>>>> fuel and air control systems.
>>>> Especially if the coolant was recently replaced, do this. It
>>>> costs little and is a common cause of the problem you
>>>> describe.
>>>> There are others. Start here, though.
>>>> Please confirm whether
>>>> -- OEM ignition wires and spark plugs were used
>>>> -- the air and fuel filters were replaced. If not, when were
>>>> they last replaced?
>>>> -- the battery is old. This is for the slow-to-catch
>>>> problem. Battery age in years and miles, please? What make
>>>> of battery is now installed? Do you have a multimeter to
>>>> check its voltage with the car off and on?
>>>> "Bridget" <rbwhi...@megalink.net> wrote
>>>>> I have a 93 Accord EX with 158K miles, 5 speed manual, with
>>>>> an
>>>>> intermittent problem. It sometimes hesitates while
>>>>> accelerating at
>>>>> low rpm. It happens when I shift to 2nd or from 2nd to 3rd
>>>>> or when
>>>>> going around a corner in 3rd and then trying to
>>>>> accelerate. It seems
>>>>> to go away when the rpms get higher.
>>>>> The main relay was replaced in June 06 when the car would
>>>>> not start
>>>>> (crank but not start). This hesitation/jerking/stumbling
>>>>> problem is
>>>>> recent. Last week I had a tune-up at Honda dealer - spark
>>>>> plugs were
>>>>> replaced and timing, belts, hoses & filters were checked.
>>>>> The fuel
>>>>> relay (Relay RZ 39400-SM4) was replaced. It did not fix
>>>>> the problem.
>>>>> Also, sometimes when I start the car it sounds like it
>>>>> isn't going to
>>>>> catch but then does. Again, it doesn't do this all the
>>>>> time.
>>>>> Any ideas on how to fix this problem without replacing
>>>>> everything in
>>>>> the car?
>>>>> Thank you for any advice.- Hide quoted text -
>>>> - Show quoted text -
>>> I checked the coolant and it is okay. The battery is a Honda battery
>>> replaced by the Honda dealer in December, 2006, so I doubt that could
>>> be a problem. I've done a little research and the things that come up
>>> are: throttle body & the EGR thing and the main relay. As I said
>>> before the main relay was replaced last year. Could a dirty throttle
>>> body cause both the hesitation and the starting problem? Why would
>>> both things happen at once?
>>> Thanks, Bridget.
>> are you getting a code?- Hide quoted text -
>>
>> - Show quoted text -
>
> The problem is intermittent and although it happens daily, it doesn't
> seem to happen for the mechanic. I guess the mechanic doesn't have
> the time to drive the car around for a little while. I'm nearly
> certain that no code showed up.
>
> A suggestion was made to try Techron injector cleaner - should I try
> that? I don't want to mess anything up. The car always eventually
> starts..so far.
>
> Thanks.
>


how many keys on your key ring? do you make sure the ignition is fully
in the "run" position after you start the engine or do you just release
the key? sometimes the ignition switches go, particularly under the
conditions i just asked about. if yours is on the way out, you'll have
intermittent running problems.

in the mean time, are you getting any engine codes? go to tegger.com
for info on how to read.