1995 Honda Civic EX White smoke
05-29-2007, 07:36 PM
#16
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Re: 1995 Honda Civic EX White smoke
On May 29, 4:25 pm, Joe LaVigne <jlavi...@hits-buffalo.com> wrote:
> Lena Fields wrote:
> > On May 29, 1:34 pm, Joe LaVigne <jlavi...@hits-buffalo.com> wrote:
> >> Lena Fields wrote:
> >> >> Well, there is definitely a mystery here. if there was just a leaky
> >> >> gasket/o rings (in the cam cover, I assume) in the first place, then
> >> >> that shouldn't have led to white smoke when accelerating or engine
> >> >> struggling. And not to engine death the next day. And, god knows what
> >> >> could possibly lead to oil in "the spark plug**S**" One cylinder
> >> >> getting oiled up, sure, could be anything from a valve seal to a hole
> >> >> in the piston, but more than one???????
>
> >> >> You need a second opinion, for sure.- Hide quoted text -
>
> >> >> - Show quoted text -
>
> >> > They said it was all four cylinders. They said they didn't
> >> > investigate the smoke problem since I said I "thought" it was related
> >> > to the oil leak. But from what I've read since that point the smoke
> >> > would have been gray not white, right? They didn't go into detail
> >> > except to say that I need a new engine to the tune of $3,000 so it
> >> > would be better to buy one of their cars.
>
> >> You can get a used JDM engine for much less, and have it installed by a
> >> shop
> >> specializing in Japanese cars. All told, you'll probably be out a little
> >> over a grand.- Hide quoted text -
>
> >> - Show quoted text -
>
> > Really? That's all? My husband in calling around has gotten the
> > close to the 3 grand mark from other shops around here. Honda offered
> > me a used engine for the $3,000, I shudder to think what a new one
> > would run. Do you think it could be fixed though, my current one? Or
> > is it hopeless?
>
> Have him call some of the smaller specialty shops. The ones that will do
> the job for a flat rate.
>
> I had a 6 cylinder replaced in a 97 Caravan for $1000 including all parts
> and labor. A used JDM is inexpensive, and will last for a long time. Most
> likely longer than your motor would if you had it rebuilt.- Hide quoted text -
>
> - Show quoted text -
He has called around, Honda said that in fact they have no clue what
is wrong with my engine so they said it just needs to be replaced. We
found a guy on craigslist that said he could replace the engine for
$500 labor and 600 to 700 for the engine. His auto shop said they
could do it for 1000 to 1700. I also need my rack and pinion (yet
another issues but unrelated) replaced and everyone says 700.
> Lena Fields wrote:
> > On May 29, 1:34 pm, Joe LaVigne <jlavi...@hits-buffalo.com> wrote:
> >> Lena Fields wrote:
> >> >> Well, there is definitely a mystery here. if there was just a leaky
> >> >> gasket/o rings (in the cam cover, I assume) in the first place, then
> >> >> that shouldn't have led to white smoke when accelerating or engine
> >> >> struggling. And not to engine death the next day. And, god knows what
> >> >> could possibly lead to oil in "the spark plug**S**" One cylinder
> >> >> getting oiled up, sure, could be anything from a valve seal to a hole
> >> >> in the piston, but more than one???????
>
> >> >> You need a second opinion, for sure.- Hide quoted text -
>
> >> >> - Show quoted text -
>
> >> > They said it was all four cylinders. They said they didn't
> >> > investigate the smoke problem since I said I "thought" it was related
> >> > to the oil leak. But from what I've read since that point the smoke
> >> > would have been gray not white, right? They didn't go into detail
> >> > except to say that I need a new engine to the tune of $3,000 so it
> >> > would be better to buy one of their cars.
>
> >> You can get a used JDM engine for much less, and have it installed by a
> >> shop
> >> specializing in Japanese cars. All told, you'll probably be out a little
> >> over a grand.- Hide quoted text -
>
> >> - Show quoted text -
>
> > Really? That's all? My husband in calling around has gotten the
> > close to the 3 grand mark from other shops around here. Honda offered
> > me a used engine for the $3,000, I shudder to think what a new one
> > would run. Do you think it could be fixed though, my current one? Or
> > is it hopeless?
>
> Have him call some of the smaller specialty shops. The ones that will do
> the job for a flat rate.
>
> I had a 6 cylinder replaced in a 97 Caravan for $1000 including all parts
> and labor. A used JDM is inexpensive, and will last for a long time. Most
> likely longer than your motor would if you had it rebuilt.- Hide quoted text -
>
> - Show quoted text -
He has called around, Honda said that in fact they have no clue what
is wrong with my engine so they said it just needs to be replaced. We
found a guy on craigslist that said he could replace the engine for
$500 labor and 600 to 700 for the engine. His auto shop said they
could do it for 1000 to 1700. I also need my rack and pinion (yet
another issues but unrelated) replaced and everyone says 700.
05-29-2007, 07:36 PM
#17
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Re: 1995 Honda Civic EX White smoke
On May 29, 4:25 pm, Joe LaVigne <jlavi...@hits-buffalo.com> wrote:
> Lena Fields wrote:
> > On May 29, 1:34 pm, Joe LaVigne <jlavi...@hits-buffalo.com> wrote:
> >> Lena Fields wrote:
> >> >> Well, there is definitely a mystery here. if there was just a leaky
> >> >> gasket/o rings (in the cam cover, I assume) in the first place, then
> >> >> that shouldn't have led to white smoke when accelerating or engine
> >> >> struggling. And not to engine death the next day. And, god knows what
> >> >> could possibly lead to oil in "the spark plug**S**" One cylinder
> >> >> getting oiled up, sure, could be anything from a valve seal to a hole
> >> >> in the piston, but more than one???????
>
> >> >> You need a second opinion, for sure.- Hide quoted text -
>
> >> >> - Show quoted text -
>
> >> > They said it was all four cylinders. They said they didn't
> >> > investigate the smoke problem since I said I "thought" it was related
> >> > to the oil leak. But from what I've read since that point the smoke
> >> > would have been gray not white, right? They didn't go into detail
> >> > except to say that I need a new engine to the tune of $3,000 so it
> >> > would be better to buy one of their cars.
>
> >> You can get a used JDM engine for much less, and have it installed by a
> >> shop
> >> specializing in Japanese cars. All told, you'll probably be out a little
> >> over a grand.- Hide quoted text -
>
> >> - Show quoted text -
>
> > Really? That's all? My husband in calling around has gotten the
> > close to the 3 grand mark from other shops around here. Honda offered
> > me a used engine for the $3,000, I shudder to think what a new one
> > would run. Do you think it could be fixed though, my current one? Or
> > is it hopeless?
>
> Have him call some of the smaller specialty shops. The ones that will do
> the job for a flat rate.
>
> I had a 6 cylinder replaced in a 97 Caravan for $1000 including all parts
> and labor. A used JDM is inexpensive, and will last for a long time. Most
> likely longer than your motor would if you had it rebuilt.- Hide quoted text -
>
> - Show quoted text -
He has called around, Honda said that in fact they have no clue what
is wrong with my engine so they said it just needs to be replaced. We
found a guy on craigslist that said he could replace the engine for
$500 labor and 600 to 700 for the engine. His auto shop said they
could do it for 1000 to 1700. I also need my rack and pinion (yet
another issues but unrelated) replaced and everyone says 700.
> Lena Fields wrote:
> > On May 29, 1:34 pm, Joe LaVigne <jlavi...@hits-buffalo.com> wrote:
> >> Lena Fields wrote:
> >> >> Well, there is definitely a mystery here. if there was just a leaky
> >> >> gasket/o rings (in the cam cover, I assume) in the first place, then
> >> >> that shouldn't have led to white smoke when accelerating or engine
> >> >> struggling. And not to engine death the next day. And, god knows what
> >> >> could possibly lead to oil in "the spark plug**S**" One cylinder
> >> >> getting oiled up, sure, could be anything from a valve seal to a hole
> >> >> in the piston, but more than one???????
>
> >> >> You need a second opinion, for sure.- Hide quoted text -
>
> >> >> - Show quoted text -
>
> >> > They said it was all four cylinders. They said they didn't
> >> > investigate the smoke problem since I said I "thought" it was related
> >> > to the oil leak. But from what I've read since that point the smoke
> >> > would have been gray not white, right? They didn't go into detail
> >> > except to say that I need a new engine to the tune of $3,000 so it
> >> > would be better to buy one of their cars.
>
> >> You can get a used JDM engine for much less, and have it installed by a
> >> shop
> >> specializing in Japanese cars. All told, you'll probably be out a little
> >> over a grand.- Hide quoted text -
>
> >> - Show quoted text -
>
> > Really? That's all? My husband in calling around has gotten the
> > close to the 3 grand mark from other shops around here. Honda offered
> > me a used engine for the $3,000, I shudder to think what a new one
> > would run. Do you think it could be fixed though, my current one? Or
> > is it hopeless?
>
> Have him call some of the smaller specialty shops. The ones that will do
> the job for a flat rate.
>
> I had a 6 cylinder replaced in a 97 Caravan for $1000 including all parts
> and labor. A used JDM is inexpensive, and will last for a long time. Most
> likely longer than your motor would if you had it rebuilt.- Hide quoted text -
>
> - Show quoted text -
He has called around, Honda said that in fact they have no clue what
is wrong with my engine so they said it just needs to be replaced. We
found a guy on craigslist that said he could replace the engine for
$500 labor and 600 to 700 for the engine. His auto shop said they
could do it for 1000 to 1700. I also need my rack and pinion (yet
another issues but unrelated) replaced and everyone says 700.
05-30-2007, 01:04 AM
#18
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Re: 1995 Honda Civic EX White smoke
Lena Fields wrote:
> On May 29, 4:25 pm, Joe LaVigne <jlavi...@hits-buffalo.com> wrote:
>> Lena Fields wrote:
>>> On May 29, 1:34 pm, Joe LaVigne <jlavi...@hits-buffalo.com> wrote:
>>>> Lena Fields wrote:
>>>>>> Well, there is definitely a mystery here. if there was just a leaky
>>>>>> gasket/o rings (in the cam cover, I assume) in the first place, then
>>>>>> that shouldn't have led to white smoke when accelerating or engine
>>>>>> struggling. And not to engine death the next day. And, god knows what
>>>>>> could possibly lead to oil in "the spark plug**S**" One cylinder
>>>>>> getting oiled up, sure, could be anything from a valve seal to a hole
>>>>>> in the piston, but more than one???????
>>>>>> You need a second opinion, for sure.- Hide quoted text -
>>>>>> - Show quoted text -
>>>>> They said it was all four cylinders. They said they didn't
>>>>> investigate the smoke problem since I said I "thought" it was related
>>>>> to the oil leak. But from what I've read since that point the smoke
>>>>> would have been gray not white, right? They didn't go into detail
>>>>> except to say that I need a new engine to the tune of $3,000 so it
>>>>> would be better to buy one of their cars.
>>>> You can get a used JDM engine for much less, and have it installed by a
>>>> shop
>>>> specializing in Japanese cars. All told, you'll probably be out a little
>>>> over a grand.- Hide quoted text -
>>>> - Show quoted text -
>>> Really? That's all? My husband in calling around has gotten the
>>> close to the 3 grand mark from other shops around here. Honda offered
>>> me a used engine for the $3,000, I shudder to think what a new one
>>> would run. Do you think it could be fixed though, my current one? Or
>>> is it hopeless?
>> Have him call some of the smaller specialty shops. The ones that will do
>> the job for a flat rate.
>>
>> I had a 6 cylinder replaced in a 97 Caravan for $1000 including all parts
>> and labor. A used JDM is inexpensive, and will last for a long time. Most
>> likely longer than your motor would if you had it rebuilt.- Hide quoted text -
>>
>> - Show quoted text -
>
> He has called around, Honda said that in fact they have no clue what
> is wrong with my engine so they said it just needs to be replaced. We
> found a guy on craigslist that said he could replace the engine for
> $500 labor and 600 to 700 for the engine. His auto shop said they
> could do it for 1000 to 1700. I also need my rack and pinion (yet
> another issues but unrelated) replaced and everyone says 700.
>
please find yourself a decent mechanic. anyone that says they have no
clue so just replace the engine, is too stoned to be worthy of your
business. for comparison, call around some of the honda "2ner" shops
and ask for quotes from people that actually /like/ hondas.
and the steering rack, if it actually does need replacing, is easy if
the motor's out. shouldn't cost $700.
> On May 29, 4:25 pm, Joe LaVigne <jlavi...@hits-buffalo.com> wrote:
>> Lena Fields wrote:
>>> On May 29, 1:34 pm, Joe LaVigne <jlavi...@hits-buffalo.com> wrote:
>>>> Lena Fields wrote:
>>>>>> Well, there is definitely a mystery here. if there was just a leaky
>>>>>> gasket/o rings (in the cam cover, I assume) in the first place, then
>>>>>> that shouldn't have led to white smoke when accelerating or engine
>>>>>> struggling. And not to engine death the next day. And, god knows what
>>>>>> could possibly lead to oil in "the spark plug**S**" One cylinder
>>>>>> getting oiled up, sure, could be anything from a valve seal to a hole
>>>>>> in the piston, but more than one???????
>>>>>> You need a second opinion, for sure.- Hide quoted text -
>>>>>> - Show quoted text -
>>>>> They said it was all four cylinders. They said they didn't
>>>>> investigate the smoke problem since I said I "thought" it was related
>>>>> to the oil leak. But from what I've read since that point the smoke
>>>>> would have been gray not white, right? They didn't go into detail
>>>>> except to say that I need a new engine to the tune of $3,000 so it
>>>>> would be better to buy one of their cars.
>>>> You can get a used JDM engine for much less, and have it installed by a
>>>> shop
>>>> specializing in Japanese cars. All told, you'll probably be out a little
>>>> over a grand.- Hide quoted text -
>>>> - Show quoted text -
>>> Really? That's all? My husband in calling around has gotten the
>>> close to the 3 grand mark from other shops around here. Honda offered
>>> me a used engine for the $3,000, I shudder to think what a new one
>>> would run. Do you think it could be fixed though, my current one? Or
>>> is it hopeless?
>> Have him call some of the smaller specialty shops. The ones that will do
>> the job for a flat rate.
>>
>> I had a 6 cylinder replaced in a 97 Caravan for $1000 including all parts
>> and labor. A used JDM is inexpensive, and will last for a long time. Most
>> likely longer than your motor would if you had it rebuilt.- Hide quoted text -
>>
>> - Show quoted text -
>
> He has called around, Honda said that in fact they have no clue what
> is wrong with my engine so they said it just needs to be replaced. We
> found a guy on craigslist that said he could replace the engine for
> $500 labor and 600 to 700 for the engine. His auto shop said they
> could do it for 1000 to 1700. I also need my rack and pinion (yet
> another issues but unrelated) replaced and everyone says 700.
>
please find yourself a decent mechanic. anyone that says they have no
clue so just replace the engine, is too stoned to be worthy of your
business. for comparison, call around some of the honda "2ner" shops
and ask for quotes from people that actually /like/ hondas.
and the steering rack, if it actually does need replacing, is easy if
the motor's out. shouldn't cost $700.
05-30-2007, 01:04 AM
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Re: 1995 Honda Civic EX White smoke
Lena Fields wrote:
> On May 29, 4:25 pm, Joe LaVigne <jlavi...@hits-buffalo.com> wrote:
>> Lena Fields wrote:
>>> On May 29, 1:34 pm, Joe LaVigne <jlavi...@hits-buffalo.com> wrote:
>>>> Lena Fields wrote:
>>>>>> Well, there is definitely a mystery here. if there was just a leaky
>>>>>> gasket/o rings (in the cam cover, I assume) in the first place, then
>>>>>> that shouldn't have led to white smoke when accelerating or engine
>>>>>> struggling. And not to engine death the next day. And, god knows what
>>>>>> could possibly lead to oil in "the spark plug**S**" One cylinder
>>>>>> getting oiled up, sure, could be anything from a valve seal to a hole
>>>>>> in the piston, but more than one???????
>>>>>> You need a second opinion, for sure.- Hide quoted text -
>>>>>> - Show quoted text -
>>>>> They said it was all four cylinders. They said they didn't
>>>>> investigate the smoke problem since I said I "thought" it was related
>>>>> to the oil leak. But from what I've read since that point the smoke
>>>>> would have been gray not white, right? They didn't go into detail
>>>>> except to say that I need a new engine to the tune of $3,000 so it
>>>>> would be better to buy one of their cars.
>>>> You can get a used JDM engine for much less, and have it installed by a
>>>> shop
>>>> specializing in Japanese cars. All told, you'll probably be out a little
>>>> over a grand.- Hide quoted text -
>>>> - Show quoted text -
>>> Really? That's all? My husband in calling around has gotten the
>>> close to the 3 grand mark from other shops around here. Honda offered
>>> me a used engine for the $3,000, I shudder to think what a new one
>>> would run. Do you think it could be fixed though, my current one? Or
>>> is it hopeless?
>> Have him call some of the smaller specialty shops. The ones that will do
>> the job for a flat rate.
>>
>> I had a 6 cylinder replaced in a 97 Caravan for $1000 including all parts
>> and labor. A used JDM is inexpensive, and will last for a long time. Most
>> likely longer than your motor would if you had it rebuilt.- Hide quoted text -
>>
>> - Show quoted text -
>
> He has called around, Honda said that in fact they have no clue what
> is wrong with my engine so they said it just needs to be replaced. We
> found a guy on craigslist that said he could replace the engine for
> $500 labor and 600 to 700 for the engine. His auto shop said they
> could do it for 1000 to 1700. I also need my rack and pinion (yet
> another issues but unrelated) replaced and everyone says 700.
>
please find yourself a decent mechanic. anyone that says they have no
clue so just replace the engine, is too stoned to be worthy of your
business. for comparison, call around some of the honda "2ner" shops
and ask for quotes from people that actually /like/ hondas.
and the steering rack, if it actually does need replacing, is easy if
the motor's out. shouldn't cost $700.
> On May 29, 4:25 pm, Joe LaVigne <jlavi...@hits-buffalo.com> wrote:
>> Lena Fields wrote:
>>> On May 29, 1:34 pm, Joe LaVigne <jlavi...@hits-buffalo.com> wrote:
>>>> Lena Fields wrote:
>>>>>> Well, there is definitely a mystery here. if there was just a leaky
>>>>>> gasket/o rings (in the cam cover, I assume) in the first place, then
>>>>>> that shouldn't have led to white smoke when accelerating or engine
>>>>>> struggling. And not to engine death the next day. And, god knows what
>>>>>> could possibly lead to oil in "the spark plug**S**" One cylinder
>>>>>> getting oiled up, sure, could be anything from a valve seal to a hole
>>>>>> in the piston, but more than one???????
>>>>>> You need a second opinion, for sure.- Hide quoted text -
>>>>>> - Show quoted text -
>>>>> They said it was all four cylinders. They said they didn't
>>>>> investigate the smoke problem since I said I "thought" it was related
>>>>> to the oil leak. But from what I've read since that point the smoke
>>>>> would have been gray not white, right? They didn't go into detail
>>>>> except to say that I need a new engine to the tune of $3,000 so it
>>>>> would be better to buy one of their cars.
>>>> You can get a used JDM engine for much less, and have it installed by a
>>>> shop
>>>> specializing in Japanese cars. All told, you'll probably be out a little
>>>> over a grand.- Hide quoted text -
>>>> - Show quoted text -
>>> Really? That's all? My husband in calling around has gotten the
>>> close to the 3 grand mark from other shops around here. Honda offered
>>> me a used engine for the $3,000, I shudder to think what a new one
>>> would run. Do you think it could be fixed though, my current one? Or
>>> is it hopeless?
>> Have him call some of the smaller specialty shops. The ones that will do
>> the job for a flat rate.
>>
>> I had a 6 cylinder replaced in a 97 Caravan for $1000 including all parts
>> and labor. A used JDM is inexpensive, and will last for a long time. Most
>> likely longer than your motor would if you had it rebuilt.- Hide quoted text -
>>
>> - Show quoted text -
>
> He has called around, Honda said that in fact they have no clue what
> is wrong with my engine so they said it just needs to be replaced. We
> found a guy on craigslist that said he could replace the engine for
> $500 labor and 600 to 700 for the engine. His auto shop said they
> could do it for 1000 to 1700. I also need my rack and pinion (yet
> another issues but unrelated) replaced and everyone says 700.
>
please find yourself a decent mechanic. anyone that says they have no
clue so just replace the engine, is too stoned to be worthy of your
business. for comparison, call around some of the honda "2ner" shops
and ask for quotes from people that actually /like/ hondas.
and the steering rack, if it actually does need replacing, is easy if
the motor's out. shouldn't cost $700.
05-30-2007, 01:06 AM
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Re: 1995 Honda Civic EX White smoke
Lena Fields wrote:
> On May 29, 1:34 pm, Joe LaVigne <jlavi...@hits-buffalo.com> wrote:
>> Lena Fields wrote:
>>>> Well, there is definitely a mystery here. if there was just a leaky
>>>> gasket/o rings (in the cam cover, I assume) in the first place, then
>>>> that shouldn't have led to white smoke when accelerating or engine
>>>> struggling. And not to engine death the next day. And, god knows what
>>>> could possibly lead to oil in "the spark plug**S**" One cylinder
>>>> getting oiled up, sure, could be anything from a valve seal to a hole
>>>> in the piston, but more than one???????
>>>> You need a second opinion, for sure.- Hide quoted text -
>>>> - Show quoted text -
>>> They said it was all four cylinders. They said they didn't
>>> investigate the smoke problem since I said I "thought" it was related
>>> to the oil leak. But from what I've read since that point the smoke
>>> would have been gray not white, right? They didn't go into detail
>>> except to say that I need a new engine to the tune of $3,000 so it
>>> would be better to buy one of their cars.
>> You can get a used JDM engine for much less, and have it installed by a shop
>> specializing in Japanese cars. All told, you'll probably be out a little
>> over a grand.- Hide quoted text -
>>
>> - Show quoted text -
>
> Really? That's all? My husband in calling around has gotten the
> close to the 3 grand mark from other shops around here.
space cadets.
> Honda offered
> me a used engine for the $3,000, I shudder to think what a new one
> would run. Do you think it could be fixed though, my current one? Or
> is it hopeless?
>
buy jdm like this:
http://www.nippon-motors.com/honda.htm
> On May 29, 1:34 pm, Joe LaVigne <jlavi...@hits-buffalo.com> wrote:
>> Lena Fields wrote:
>>>> Well, there is definitely a mystery here. if there was just a leaky
>>>> gasket/o rings (in the cam cover, I assume) in the first place, then
>>>> that shouldn't have led to white smoke when accelerating or engine
>>>> struggling. And not to engine death the next day. And, god knows what
>>>> could possibly lead to oil in "the spark plug**S**" One cylinder
>>>> getting oiled up, sure, could be anything from a valve seal to a hole
>>>> in the piston, but more than one???????
>>>> You need a second opinion, for sure.- Hide quoted text -
>>>> - Show quoted text -
>>> They said it was all four cylinders. They said they didn't
>>> investigate the smoke problem since I said I "thought" it was related
>>> to the oil leak. But from what I've read since that point the smoke
>>> would have been gray not white, right? They didn't go into detail
>>> except to say that I need a new engine to the tune of $3,000 so it
>>> would be better to buy one of their cars.
>> You can get a used JDM engine for much less, and have it installed by a shop
>> specializing in Japanese cars. All told, you'll probably be out a little
>> over a grand.- Hide quoted text -
>>
>> - Show quoted text -
>
> Really? That's all? My husband in calling around has gotten the
> close to the 3 grand mark from other shops around here.
space cadets.
> Honda offered
> me a used engine for the $3,000, I shudder to think what a new one
> would run. Do you think it could be fixed though, my current one? Or
> is it hopeless?
>
buy jdm like this:
http://www.nippon-motors.com/honda.htm
05-30-2007, 01:06 AM
#21
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Re: 1995 Honda Civic EX White smoke
Lena Fields wrote:
> On May 29, 1:34 pm, Joe LaVigne <jlavi...@hits-buffalo.com> wrote:
>> Lena Fields wrote:
>>>> Well, there is definitely a mystery here. if there was just a leaky
>>>> gasket/o rings (in the cam cover, I assume) in the first place, then
>>>> that shouldn't have led to white smoke when accelerating or engine
>>>> struggling. And not to engine death the next day. And, god knows what
>>>> could possibly lead to oil in "the spark plug**S**" One cylinder
>>>> getting oiled up, sure, could be anything from a valve seal to a hole
>>>> in the piston, but more than one???????
>>>> You need a second opinion, for sure.- Hide quoted text -
>>>> - Show quoted text -
>>> They said it was all four cylinders. They said they didn't
>>> investigate the smoke problem since I said I "thought" it was related
>>> to the oil leak. But from what I've read since that point the smoke
>>> would have been gray not white, right? They didn't go into detail
>>> except to say that I need a new engine to the tune of $3,000 so it
>>> would be better to buy one of their cars.
>> You can get a used JDM engine for much less, and have it installed by a shop
>> specializing in Japanese cars. All told, you'll probably be out a little
>> over a grand.- Hide quoted text -
>>
>> - Show quoted text -
>
> Really? That's all? My husband in calling around has gotten the
> close to the 3 grand mark from other shops around here.
space cadets.
> Honda offered
> me a used engine for the $3,000, I shudder to think what a new one
> would run. Do you think it could be fixed though, my current one? Or
> is it hopeless?
>
buy jdm like this:
http://www.nippon-motors.com/honda.htm
> On May 29, 1:34 pm, Joe LaVigne <jlavi...@hits-buffalo.com> wrote:
>> Lena Fields wrote:
>>>> Well, there is definitely a mystery here. if there was just a leaky
>>>> gasket/o rings (in the cam cover, I assume) in the first place, then
>>>> that shouldn't have led to white smoke when accelerating or engine
>>>> struggling. And not to engine death the next day. And, god knows what
>>>> could possibly lead to oil in "the spark plug**S**" One cylinder
>>>> getting oiled up, sure, could be anything from a valve seal to a hole
>>>> in the piston, but more than one???????
>>>> You need a second opinion, for sure.- Hide quoted text -
>>>> - Show quoted text -
>>> They said it was all four cylinders. They said they didn't
>>> investigate the smoke problem since I said I "thought" it was related
>>> to the oil leak. But from what I've read since that point the smoke
>>> would have been gray not white, right? They didn't go into detail
>>> except to say that I need a new engine to the tune of $3,000 so it
>>> would be better to buy one of their cars.
>> You can get a used JDM engine for much less, and have it installed by a shop
>> specializing in Japanese cars. All told, you'll probably be out a little
>> over a grand.- Hide quoted text -
>>
>> - Show quoted text -
>
> Really? That's all? My husband in calling around has gotten the
> close to the 3 grand mark from other shops around here.
space cadets.
> Honda offered
> me a used engine for the $3,000, I shudder to think what a new one
> would run. Do you think it could be fixed though, my current one? Or
> is it hopeless?
>
buy jdm like this:
http://www.nippon-motors.com/honda.htm
05-30-2007, 10:38 AM
#22
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Re: 1995 Honda Civic EX White smoke
On May 29, 4:26 pm, Lena Fields <Lena...@gmail.com> wrote:
> > Well, there is definitely a mystery here. if there was just a leaky
> > gasket/o rings (in the cam cover, I assume) in the first place, then
> > that shouldn't have led to white smoke when accelerating or engine
> > struggling. And not to engine death the next day. And, god knows what
> > could possibly lead to oil in "the spark plug**S**" One cylinder
> > getting oiled up, sure, could be anything from a valve seal to a hole
> > in the piston, but more than one???????
>
> > You need a second opinion, for sure.- Hide quoted text -
>
> > - Show quoted text -
>
> They said it was all four cylinders. They said they didn't
> investigate the smoke problem since I said I "thought" it was related
> to the oil leak. But from what I've read since that point the smoke
> would have been gray not white, right? They didn't go into detail
> except to say that I need a new engine to the tune of $3,000 so it
> would be better to buy one of their cars.
Yeah, my dealer told me to buy a new car because my head gasket blew.
It's pretty scary to hear. But, it's insane.
You can buy used Honda engines pretty cheaply. Especially if you live
somewhere where "the kids" are swapping the stock engines for the B
series engines and will take just about any price for the old one.
First find out exactly what is wrong with the old one, though. Maybe
not exactly, but at least get a good idea.
> > Well, there is definitely a mystery here. if there was just a leaky
> > gasket/o rings (in the cam cover, I assume) in the first place, then
> > that shouldn't have led to white smoke when accelerating or engine
> > struggling. And not to engine death the next day. And, god knows what
> > could possibly lead to oil in "the spark plug**S**" One cylinder
> > getting oiled up, sure, could be anything from a valve seal to a hole
> > in the piston, but more than one???????
>
> > You need a second opinion, for sure.- Hide quoted text -
>
> > - Show quoted text -
>
> They said it was all four cylinders. They said they didn't
> investigate the smoke problem since I said I "thought" it was related
> to the oil leak. But from what I've read since that point the smoke
> would have been gray not white, right? They didn't go into detail
> except to say that I need a new engine to the tune of $3,000 so it
> would be better to buy one of their cars.
Yeah, my dealer told me to buy a new car because my head gasket blew.
It's pretty scary to hear. But, it's insane.
You can buy used Honda engines pretty cheaply. Especially if you live
somewhere where "the kids" are swapping the stock engines for the B
series engines and will take just about any price for the old one.
First find out exactly what is wrong with the old one, though. Maybe
not exactly, but at least get a good idea.
05-30-2007, 10:38 AM
#23
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Re: 1995 Honda Civic EX White smoke
On May 29, 4:26 pm, Lena Fields <Lena...@gmail.com> wrote:
> > Well, there is definitely a mystery here. if there was just a leaky
> > gasket/o rings (in the cam cover, I assume) in the first place, then
> > that shouldn't have led to white smoke when accelerating or engine
> > struggling. And not to engine death the next day. And, god knows what
> > could possibly lead to oil in "the spark plug**S**" One cylinder
> > getting oiled up, sure, could be anything from a valve seal to a hole
> > in the piston, but more than one???????
>
> > You need a second opinion, for sure.- Hide quoted text -
>
> > - Show quoted text -
>
> They said it was all four cylinders. They said they didn't
> investigate the smoke problem since I said I "thought" it was related
> to the oil leak. But from what I've read since that point the smoke
> would have been gray not white, right? They didn't go into detail
> except to say that I need a new engine to the tune of $3,000 so it
> would be better to buy one of their cars.
Yeah, my dealer told me to buy a new car because my head gasket blew.
It's pretty scary to hear. But, it's insane.
You can buy used Honda engines pretty cheaply. Especially if you live
somewhere where "the kids" are swapping the stock engines for the B
series engines and will take just about any price for the old one.
First find out exactly what is wrong with the old one, though. Maybe
not exactly, but at least get a good idea.
> > Well, there is definitely a mystery here. if there was just a leaky
> > gasket/o rings (in the cam cover, I assume) in the first place, then
> > that shouldn't have led to white smoke when accelerating or engine
> > struggling. And not to engine death the next day. And, god knows what
> > could possibly lead to oil in "the spark plug**S**" One cylinder
> > getting oiled up, sure, could be anything from a valve seal to a hole
> > in the piston, but more than one???????
>
> > You need a second opinion, for sure.- Hide quoted text -
>
> > - Show quoted text -
>
> They said it was all four cylinders. They said they didn't
> investigate the smoke problem since I said I "thought" it was related
> to the oil leak. But from what I've read since that point the smoke
> would have been gray not white, right? They didn't go into detail
> except to say that I need a new engine to the tune of $3,000 so it
> would be better to buy one of their cars.
Yeah, my dealer told me to buy a new car because my head gasket blew.
It's pretty scary to hear. But, it's insane.
You can buy used Honda engines pretty cheaply. Especially if you live
somewhere where "the kids" are swapping the stock engines for the B
series engines and will take just about any price for the old one.
First find out exactly what is wrong with the old one, though. Maybe
not exactly, but at least get a good idea.
05-30-2007, 10:41 AM
#24
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Re: 1995 Honda Civic EX White smoke
On May 29, 4:38 pm, Lena Fields <Lena...@gmail.com> wrote:
> On May 29, 1:34 pm, Joe LaVigne <jlavi...@hits-buffalo.com> wrote:
>
>
>
>
>
> > Lena Fields wrote:
> > >> Well, there is definitely a mystery here. if there was just a leaky
> > >> gasket/o rings (in the cam cover, I assume) in the first place, then
> > >> that shouldn't have led to white smoke when accelerating or engine
> > >> struggling. And not to engine death the next day. And, god knows what
> > >> could possibly lead to oil in "the spark plug**S**" One cylinder
> > >> getting oiled up, sure, could be anything from a valve seal to a hole
> > >> in the piston, but more than one???????
>
> > >> You need a second opinion, for sure.- Hide quoted text -
>
> > >> - Show quoted text -
>
> > > They said it was all four cylinders. They said they didn't
> > > investigate the smoke problem since I said I "thought" it was related
> > > to the oil leak. But from what I've read since that point the smoke
> > > would have been gray not white, right? They didn't go into detail
> > > except to say that I need a new engine to the tune of $3,000 so it
> > > would be better to buy one of their cars.
>
> > You can get a used JDM engine for much less, and have it installed by a shop
> > specializing in Japanese cars. All told, you'll probably be out a little
> > over a grand.- Hide quoted text -
>
> > - Show quoted text -
>
> Really? That's all? My husband in calling around has gotten the
> close to the 3 grand mark from other shops around here. Honda offered
> me a used engine for the $3,000, I shudder to think what a new one
> would run. Do you think it could be fixed though, my current one? Or
> is it hopeless?- Hide quoted text -
>
> - Show quoted text -
If it doesn't actually have a hole in the side and inside parts
sticking out, it can be fixed. And if the rest of the car is in decent
shape, very likely cost effectively. But the used engine route, if
available, is cheaper than doing a rebuild or buying a rebuilt. Most
junkyards will give you a warranty that the engine isn't defective
when installed, and given Honda's reputation for durability that's
pretty much all you need.
> On May 29, 1:34 pm, Joe LaVigne <jlavi...@hits-buffalo.com> wrote:
>
>
>
>
>
> > Lena Fields wrote:
> > >> Well, there is definitely a mystery here. if there was just a leaky
> > >> gasket/o rings (in the cam cover, I assume) in the first place, then
> > >> that shouldn't have led to white smoke when accelerating or engine
> > >> struggling. And not to engine death the next day. And, god knows what
> > >> could possibly lead to oil in "the spark plug**S**" One cylinder
> > >> getting oiled up, sure, could be anything from a valve seal to a hole
> > >> in the piston, but more than one???????
>
> > >> You need a second opinion, for sure.- Hide quoted text -
>
> > >> - Show quoted text -
>
> > > They said it was all four cylinders. They said they didn't
> > > investigate the smoke problem since I said I "thought" it was related
> > > to the oil leak. But from what I've read since that point the smoke
> > > would have been gray not white, right? They didn't go into detail
> > > except to say that I need a new engine to the tune of $3,000 so it
> > > would be better to buy one of their cars.
>
> > You can get a used JDM engine for much less, and have it installed by a shop
> > specializing in Japanese cars. All told, you'll probably be out a little
> > over a grand.- Hide quoted text -
>
> > - Show quoted text -
>
> Really? That's all? My husband in calling around has gotten the
> close to the 3 grand mark from other shops around here. Honda offered
> me a used engine for the $3,000, I shudder to think what a new one
> would run. Do you think it could be fixed though, my current one? Or
> is it hopeless?- Hide quoted text -
>
> - Show quoted text -
If it doesn't actually have a hole in the side and inside parts
sticking out, it can be fixed. And if the rest of the car is in decent
shape, very likely cost effectively. But the used engine route, if
available, is cheaper than doing a rebuild or buying a rebuilt. Most
junkyards will give you a warranty that the engine isn't defective
when installed, and given Honda's reputation for durability that's
pretty much all you need.
05-30-2007, 10:41 AM
#25
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Re: 1995 Honda Civic EX White smoke
On May 29, 4:38 pm, Lena Fields <Lena...@gmail.com> wrote:
> On May 29, 1:34 pm, Joe LaVigne <jlavi...@hits-buffalo.com> wrote:
>
>
>
>
>
> > Lena Fields wrote:
> > >> Well, there is definitely a mystery here. if there was just a leaky
> > >> gasket/o rings (in the cam cover, I assume) in the first place, then
> > >> that shouldn't have led to white smoke when accelerating or engine
> > >> struggling. And not to engine death the next day. And, god knows what
> > >> could possibly lead to oil in "the spark plug**S**" One cylinder
> > >> getting oiled up, sure, could be anything from a valve seal to a hole
> > >> in the piston, but more than one???????
>
> > >> You need a second opinion, for sure.- Hide quoted text -
>
> > >> - Show quoted text -
>
> > > They said it was all four cylinders. They said they didn't
> > > investigate the smoke problem since I said I "thought" it was related
> > > to the oil leak. But from what I've read since that point the smoke
> > > would have been gray not white, right? They didn't go into detail
> > > except to say that I need a new engine to the tune of $3,000 so it
> > > would be better to buy one of their cars.
>
> > You can get a used JDM engine for much less, and have it installed by a shop
> > specializing in Japanese cars. All told, you'll probably be out a little
> > over a grand.- Hide quoted text -
>
> > - Show quoted text -
>
> Really? That's all? My husband in calling around has gotten the
> close to the 3 grand mark from other shops around here. Honda offered
> me a used engine for the $3,000, I shudder to think what a new one
> would run. Do you think it could be fixed though, my current one? Or
> is it hopeless?- Hide quoted text -
>
> - Show quoted text -
If it doesn't actually have a hole in the side and inside parts
sticking out, it can be fixed. And if the rest of the car is in decent
shape, very likely cost effectively. But the used engine route, if
available, is cheaper than doing a rebuild or buying a rebuilt. Most
junkyards will give you a warranty that the engine isn't defective
when installed, and given Honda's reputation for durability that's
pretty much all you need.
> On May 29, 1:34 pm, Joe LaVigne <jlavi...@hits-buffalo.com> wrote:
>
>
>
>
>
> > Lena Fields wrote:
> > >> Well, there is definitely a mystery here. if there was just a leaky
> > >> gasket/o rings (in the cam cover, I assume) in the first place, then
> > >> that shouldn't have led to white smoke when accelerating or engine
> > >> struggling. And not to engine death the next day. And, god knows what
> > >> could possibly lead to oil in "the spark plug**S**" One cylinder
> > >> getting oiled up, sure, could be anything from a valve seal to a hole
> > >> in the piston, but more than one???????
>
> > >> You need a second opinion, for sure.- Hide quoted text -
>
> > >> - Show quoted text -
>
> > > They said it was all four cylinders. They said they didn't
> > > investigate the smoke problem since I said I "thought" it was related
> > > to the oil leak. But from what I've read since that point the smoke
> > > would have been gray not white, right? They didn't go into detail
> > > except to say that I need a new engine to the tune of $3,000 so it
> > > would be better to buy one of their cars.
>
> > You can get a used JDM engine for much less, and have it installed by a shop
> > specializing in Japanese cars. All told, you'll probably be out a little
> > over a grand.- Hide quoted text -
>
> > - Show quoted text -
>
> Really? That's all? My husband in calling around has gotten the
> close to the 3 grand mark from other shops around here. Honda offered
> me a used engine for the $3,000, I shudder to think what a new one
> would run. Do you think it could be fixed though, my current one? Or
> is it hopeless?- Hide quoted text -
>
> - Show quoted text -
If it doesn't actually have a hole in the side and inside parts
sticking out, it can be fixed. And if the rest of the car is in decent
shape, very likely cost effectively. But the used engine route, if
available, is cheaper than doing a rebuild or buying a rebuilt. Most
junkyards will give you a warranty that the engine isn't defective
when installed, and given Honda's reputation for durability that's
pretty much all you need.
05-30-2007, 12:19 PM
#26
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Re: 1995 Honda Civic EX White smoke
On May 30, 7:41 am, z <gzuck...@snail-mail.net> wrote:
> On May 29, 4:38 pm, Lena Fields <Lena...@gmail.com> wrote:
>
>
>
>
>
> > On May 29, 1:34 pm, Joe LaVigne <jlavi...@hits-buffalo.com> wrote:
>
> > > Lena Fields wrote:
> > > >> Well, there is definitely a mystery here. if there was just a leaky
> > > >> gasket/o rings (in the cam cover, I assume) in the first place, then
> > > >> that shouldn't have led to white smoke when accelerating or engine
> > > >> struggling. And not to engine death the next day. And, god knows what
> > > >> could possibly lead to oil in "the spark plug**S**" One cylinder
> > > >> getting oiled up, sure, could be anything from a valve seal to a hole
> > > >> in the piston, but more than one???????
>
> > > >> You need a second opinion, for sure.- Hide quoted text -
>
> > > >> - Show quoted text -
>
> > > > They said it was all four cylinders. They said they didn't
> > > > investigate the smoke problem since I said I "thought" it was related
> > > > to the oil leak. But from what I've read since that point the smoke
> > > > would have been gray not white, right? They didn't go into detail
> > > > except to say that I need a new engine to the tune of $3,000 so it
> > > > would be better to buy one of their cars.
>
> > > You can get a used JDM engine for much less, and have it installed by a shop
> > > specializing in Japanese cars. All told, you'll probably be out a little
> > > over a grand.- Hide quoted text -
>
> > > - Show quoted text -
>
> > Really? That's all? My husband in calling around has gotten the
> > close to the 3 grand mark from other shops around here. Honda offered
> > me a used engine for the $3,000, I shudder to think what a new one
> > would run. Do you think it could be fixed though, my current one? Or
> > is it hopeless?- Hide quoted text -
>
> > - Show quoted text -
>
> If it doesn't actually have a hole in the side and inside parts
> sticking out, it can be fixed. And if the rest of the car is in decent
> shape, very likely cost effectively. But the used engine route, if
> available, is cheaper than doing a rebuild or buying a rebuilt. Most
> junkyards will give you a warranty that the engine isn't defective
> when installed, and given Honda's reputation for durability that's
> pretty much all you need.- Hide quoted text -
>
> - Show quoted text -
We are going to take it to the guy we found in the area. I actually
have somewhat of a phobia about mechanics because I have yet to have a
good trustworthy experience with one. I am going the used engine
route, hopefully that is all that needs to be fixed and my car will be
up and running again in no time, we're going to have the guy check to
see if it is the headgasket although everytime I've read about that
the car overheating always happens and mine stays steady at the same
temp that it was when I first bought it. I am never going to the
dealership again for auto repairs. They did a compression test, or at
least that's what they told me and when my husband called them they
told him that it "wasn't great" but could give him no other
information. Now I'm wondering if the test was even done or if they
just had me sit around for hours just so they could get me in the
showroom!
> On May 29, 4:38 pm, Lena Fields <Lena...@gmail.com> wrote:
>
>
>
>
>
> > On May 29, 1:34 pm, Joe LaVigne <jlavi...@hits-buffalo.com> wrote:
>
> > > Lena Fields wrote:
> > > >> Well, there is definitely a mystery here. if there was just a leaky
> > > >> gasket/o rings (in the cam cover, I assume) in the first place, then
> > > >> that shouldn't have led to white smoke when accelerating or engine
> > > >> struggling. And not to engine death the next day. And, god knows what
> > > >> could possibly lead to oil in "the spark plug**S**" One cylinder
> > > >> getting oiled up, sure, could be anything from a valve seal to a hole
> > > >> in the piston, but more than one???????
>
> > > >> You need a second opinion, for sure.- Hide quoted text -
>
> > > >> - Show quoted text -
>
> > > > They said it was all four cylinders. They said they didn't
> > > > investigate the smoke problem since I said I "thought" it was related
> > > > to the oil leak. But from what I've read since that point the smoke
> > > > would have been gray not white, right? They didn't go into detail
> > > > except to say that I need a new engine to the tune of $3,000 so it
> > > > would be better to buy one of their cars.
>
> > > You can get a used JDM engine for much less, and have it installed by a shop
> > > specializing in Japanese cars. All told, you'll probably be out a little
> > > over a grand.- Hide quoted text -
>
> > > - Show quoted text -
>
> > Really? That's all? My husband in calling around has gotten the
> > close to the 3 grand mark from other shops around here. Honda offered
> > me a used engine for the $3,000, I shudder to think what a new one
> > would run. Do you think it could be fixed though, my current one? Or
> > is it hopeless?- Hide quoted text -
>
> > - Show quoted text -
>
> If it doesn't actually have a hole in the side and inside parts
> sticking out, it can be fixed. And if the rest of the car is in decent
> shape, very likely cost effectively. But the used engine route, if
> available, is cheaper than doing a rebuild or buying a rebuilt. Most
> junkyards will give you a warranty that the engine isn't defective
> when installed, and given Honda's reputation for durability that's
> pretty much all you need.- Hide quoted text -
>
> - Show quoted text -
We are going to take it to the guy we found in the area. I actually
have somewhat of a phobia about mechanics because I have yet to have a
good trustworthy experience with one. I am going the used engine
route, hopefully that is all that needs to be fixed and my car will be
up and running again in no time, we're going to have the guy check to
see if it is the headgasket although everytime I've read about that
the car overheating always happens and mine stays steady at the same
temp that it was when I first bought it. I am never going to the
dealership again for auto repairs. They did a compression test, or at
least that's what they told me and when my husband called them they
told him that it "wasn't great" but could give him no other
information. Now I'm wondering if the test was even done or if they
just had me sit around for hours just so they could get me in the
showroom!
05-30-2007, 12:19 PM
#27
Guest
Posts: n/a
Re: 1995 Honda Civic EX White smoke
On May 30, 7:41 am, z <gzuck...@snail-mail.net> wrote:
> On May 29, 4:38 pm, Lena Fields <Lena...@gmail.com> wrote:
>
>
>
>
>
> > On May 29, 1:34 pm, Joe LaVigne <jlavi...@hits-buffalo.com> wrote:
>
> > > Lena Fields wrote:
> > > >> Well, there is definitely a mystery here. if there was just a leaky
> > > >> gasket/o rings (in the cam cover, I assume) in the first place, then
> > > >> that shouldn't have led to white smoke when accelerating or engine
> > > >> struggling. And not to engine death the next day. And, god knows what
> > > >> could possibly lead to oil in "the spark plug**S**" One cylinder
> > > >> getting oiled up, sure, could be anything from a valve seal to a hole
> > > >> in the piston, but more than one???????
>
> > > >> You need a second opinion, for sure.- Hide quoted text -
>
> > > >> - Show quoted text -
>
> > > > They said it was all four cylinders. They said they didn't
> > > > investigate the smoke problem since I said I "thought" it was related
> > > > to the oil leak. But from what I've read since that point the smoke
> > > > would have been gray not white, right? They didn't go into detail
> > > > except to say that I need a new engine to the tune of $3,000 so it
> > > > would be better to buy one of their cars.
>
> > > You can get a used JDM engine for much less, and have it installed by a shop
> > > specializing in Japanese cars. All told, you'll probably be out a little
> > > over a grand.- Hide quoted text -
>
> > > - Show quoted text -
>
> > Really? That's all? My husband in calling around has gotten the
> > close to the 3 grand mark from other shops around here. Honda offered
> > me a used engine for the $3,000, I shudder to think what a new one
> > would run. Do you think it could be fixed though, my current one? Or
> > is it hopeless?- Hide quoted text -
>
> > - Show quoted text -
>
> If it doesn't actually have a hole in the side and inside parts
> sticking out, it can be fixed. And if the rest of the car is in decent
> shape, very likely cost effectively. But the used engine route, if
> available, is cheaper than doing a rebuild or buying a rebuilt. Most
> junkyards will give you a warranty that the engine isn't defective
> when installed, and given Honda's reputation for durability that's
> pretty much all you need.- Hide quoted text -
>
> - Show quoted text -
We are going to take it to the guy we found in the area. I actually
have somewhat of a phobia about mechanics because I have yet to have a
good trustworthy experience with one. I am going the used engine
route, hopefully that is all that needs to be fixed and my car will be
up and running again in no time, we're going to have the guy check to
see if it is the headgasket although everytime I've read about that
the car overheating always happens and mine stays steady at the same
temp that it was when I first bought it. I am never going to the
dealership again for auto repairs. They did a compression test, or at
least that's what they told me and when my husband called them they
told him that it "wasn't great" but could give him no other
information. Now I'm wondering if the test was even done or if they
just had me sit around for hours just so they could get me in the
showroom!
> On May 29, 4:38 pm, Lena Fields <Lena...@gmail.com> wrote:
>
>
>
>
>
> > On May 29, 1:34 pm, Joe LaVigne <jlavi...@hits-buffalo.com> wrote:
>
> > > Lena Fields wrote:
> > > >> Well, there is definitely a mystery here. if there was just a leaky
> > > >> gasket/o rings (in the cam cover, I assume) in the first place, then
> > > >> that shouldn't have led to white smoke when accelerating or engine
> > > >> struggling. And not to engine death the next day. And, god knows what
> > > >> could possibly lead to oil in "the spark plug**S**" One cylinder
> > > >> getting oiled up, sure, could be anything from a valve seal to a hole
> > > >> in the piston, but more than one???????
>
> > > >> You need a second opinion, for sure.- Hide quoted text -
>
> > > >> - Show quoted text -
>
> > > > They said it was all four cylinders. They said they didn't
> > > > investigate the smoke problem since I said I "thought" it was related
> > > > to the oil leak. But from what I've read since that point the smoke
> > > > would have been gray not white, right? They didn't go into detail
> > > > except to say that I need a new engine to the tune of $3,000 so it
> > > > would be better to buy one of their cars.
>
> > > You can get a used JDM engine for much less, and have it installed by a shop
> > > specializing in Japanese cars. All told, you'll probably be out a little
> > > over a grand.- Hide quoted text -
>
> > > - Show quoted text -
>
> > Really? That's all? My husband in calling around has gotten the
> > close to the 3 grand mark from other shops around here. Honda offered
> > me a used engine for the $3,000, I shudder to think what a new one
> > would run. Do you think it could be fixed though, my current one? Or
> > is it hopeless?- Hide quoted text -
>
> > - Show quoted text -
>
> If it doesn't actually have a hole in the side and inside parts
> sticking out, it can be fixed. And if the rest of the car is in decent
> shape, very likely cost effectively. But the used engine route, if
> available, is cheaper than doing a rebuild or buying a rebuilt. Most
> junkyards will give you a warranty that the engine isn't defective
> when installed, and given Honda's reputation for durability that's
> pretty much all you need.- Hide quoted text -
>
> - Show quoted text -
We are going to take it to the guy we found in the area. I actually
have somewhat of a phobia about mechanics because I have yet to have a
good trustworthy experience with one. I am going the used engine
route, hopefully that is all that needs to be fixed and my car will be
up and running again in no time, we're going to have the guy check to
see if it is the headgasket although everytime I've read about that
the car overheating always happens and mine stays steady at the same
temp that it was when I first bought it. I am never going to the
dealership again for auto repairs. They did a compression test, or at
least that's what they told me and when my husband called them they
told him that it "wasn't great" but could give him no other
information. Now I'm wondering if the test was even done or if they
just had me sit around for hours just so they could get me in the
showroom!
05-30-2007, 12:52 PM
#28
Guest
Posts: n/a
Re: 1995 Honda Civic EX White smoke
On May 30, 7:41 am, z <gzuck...@snail-mail.net> wrote:
> On May 29, 4:38 pm, Lena Fields <Lena...@gmail.com> wrote:
>
>
>
>
>
> > On May 29, 1:34 pm, Joe LaVigne <jlavi...@hits-buffalo.com> wrote:
>
> > > Lena Fields wrote:
> > > >> Well, there is definitely a mystery here. if there was just a leaky
> > > >> gasket/o rings (in the cam cover, I assume) in the first place, then
> > > >> that shouldn't have led to white smoke when accelerating or engine
> > > >> struggling. And not to engine death the next day. And, god knows what
> > > >> could possibly lead to oil in "the spark plug**S**" One cylinder
> > > >> getting oiled up, sure, could be anything from a valve seal to a hole
> > > >> in the piston, but more than one???????
>
> > > >> You need a second opinion, for sure.- Hide quoted text -
>
> > > >> - Show quoted text -
>
> > > > They said it was all four cylinders. They said they didn't
> > > > investigate the smoke problem since I said I "thought" it was related
> > > > to the oil leak. But from what I've read since that point the smoke
> > > > would have been gray not white, right? They didn't go into detail
> > > > except to say that I need a new engine to the tune of $3,000 so it
> > > > would be better to buy one of their cars.
>
> > > You can get a used JDM engine for much less, and have it installed by a shop
> > > specializing in Japanese cars. All told, you'll probably be out a little
> > > over a grand.- Hide quoted text -
>
> > > - Show quoted text -
>
> > Really? That's all? My husband in calling around has gotten the
> > close to the 3 grand mark from other shops around here. Honda offered
> > me a used engine for the $3,000, I shudder to think what a new one
> > would run. Do you think it could be fixed though, my current one? Or
> > is it hopeless?- Hide quoted text -
>
> > - Show quoted text -
>
> If it doesn't actually have a hole in the side and inside parts
> sticking out, it can be fixed. And if the rest of the car is in decent
> shape, very likely cost effectively. But the used engine route, if
> available, is cheaper than doing a rebuild or buying a rebuilt. Most
> junkyards will give you a warranty that the engine isn't defective
> when installed, and given Honda's reputation for durability that's
> pretty much all you need.- Hide quoted text -
>
> - Show quoted text -
We are going to take it to the guy we found in the area. I actually
have somewhat of a phobia about mechanics because I have yet to have
a
good trustworthy experience with one. I am going the used engine
route, hopefully that is all that needs to be fixed and my car will
be
up and running again in no time, we're going to have the guy check to
see if it is the headgasket although everytime I've read about that
the car overheating always happens and mine stays steady at the same
temp that it was when I first bought it. I am never going to the
dealership again for auto repairs. They did a compression test, or
at
least that's what they told me and when my husband called them they
told him that it "wasn't great" but could give him no other
information. Now I'm wondering if the test was even done or if they
just had me sit around for hours just so they could get me in the
showroom!
> On May 29, 4:38 pm, Lena Fields <Lena...@gmail.com> wrote:
>
>
>
>
>
> > On May 29, 1:34 pm, Joe LaVigne <jlavi...@hits-buffalo.com> wrote:
>
> > > Lena Fields wrote:
> > > >> Well, there is definitely a mystery here. if there was just a leaky
> > > >> gasket/o rings (in the cam cover, I assume) in the first place, then
> > > >> that shouldn't have led to white smoke when accelerating or engine
> > > >> struggling. And not to engine death the next day. And, god knows what
> > > >> could possibly lead to oil in "the spark plug**S**" One cylinder
> > > >> getting oiled up, sure, could be anything from a valve seal to a hole
> > > >> in the piston, but more than one???????
>
> > > >> You need a second opinion, for sure.- Hide quoted text -
>
> > > >> - Show quoted text -
>
> > > > They said it was all four cylinders. They said they didn't
> > > > investigate the smoke problem since I said I "thought" it was related
> > > > to the oil leak. But from what I've read since that point the smoke
> > > > would have been gray not white, right? They didn't go into detail
> > > > except to say that I need a new engine to the tune of $3,000 so it
> > > > would be better to buy one of their cars.
>
> > > You can get a used JDM engine for much less, and have it installed by a shop
> > > specializing in Japanese cars. All told, you'll probably be out a little
> > > over a grand.- Hide quoted text -
>
> > > - Show quoted text -
>
> > Really? That's all? My husband in calling around has gotten the
> > close to the 3 grand mark from other shops around here. Honda offered
> > me a used engine for the $3,000, I shudder to think what a new one
> > would run. Do you think it could be fixed though, my current one? Or
> > is it hopeless?- Hide quoted text -
>
> > - Show quoted text -
>
> If it doesn't actually have a hole in the side and inside parts
> sticking out, it can be fixed. And if the rest of the car is in decent
> shape, very likely cost effectively. But the used engine route, if
> available, is cheaper than doing a rebuild or buying a rebuilt. Most
> junkyards will give you a warranty that the engine isn't defective
> when installed, and given Honda's reputation for durability that's
> pretty much all you need.- Hide quoted text -
>
> - Show quoted text -
We are going to take it to the guy we found in the area. I actually
have somewhat of a phobia about mechanics because I have yet to have
a
good trustworthy experience with one. I am going the used engine
route, hopefully that is all that needs to be fixed and my car will
be
up and running again in no time, we're going to have the guy check to
see if it is the headgasket although everytime I've read about that
the car overheating always happens and mine stays steady at the same
temp that it was when I first bought it. I am never going to the
dealership again for auto repairs. They did a compression test, or
at
least that's what they told me and when my husband called them they
told him that it "wasn't great" but could give him no other
information. Now I'm wondering if the test was even done or if they
just had me sit around for hours just so they could get me in the
showroom!
05-30-2007, 12:52 PM
#29
Guest
Posts: n/a
Re: 1995 Honda Civic EX White smoke
On May 30, 7:41 am, z <gzuck...@snail-mail.net> wrote:
> On May 29, 4:38 pm, Lena Fields <Lena...@gmail.com> wrote:
>
>
>
>
>
> > On May 29, 1:34 pm, Joe LaVigne <jlavi...@hits-buffalo.com> wrote:
>
> > > Lena Fields wrote:
> > > >> Well, there is definitely a mystery here. if there was just a leaky
> > > >> gasket/o rings (in the cam cover, I assume) in the first place, then
> > > >> that shouldn't have led to white smoke when accelerating or engine
> > > >> struggling. And not to engine death the next day. And, god knows what
> > > >> could possibly lead to oil in "the spark plug**S**" One cylinder
> > > >> getting oiled up, sure, could be anything from a valve seal to a hole
> > > >> in the piston, but more than one???????
>
> > > >> You need a second opinion, for sure.- Hide quoted text -
>
> > > >> - Show quoted text -
>
> > > > They said it was all four cylinders. They said they didn't
> > > > investigate the smoke problem since I said I "thought" it was related
> > > > to the oil leak. But from what I've read since that point the smoke
> > > > would have been gray not white, right? They didn't go into detail
> > > > except to say that I need a new engine to the tune of $3,000 so it
> > > > would be better to buy one of their cars.
>
> > > You can get a used JDM engine for much less, and have it installed by a shop
> > > specializing in Japanese cars. All told, you'll probably be out a little
> > > over a grand.- Hide quoted text -
>
> > > - Show quoted text -
>
> > Really? That's all? My husband in calling around has gotten the
> > close to the 3 grand mark from other shops around here. Honda offered
> > me a used engine for the $3,000, I shudder to think what a new one
> > would run. Do you think it could be fixed though, my current one? Or
> > is it hopeless?- Hide quoted text -
>
> > - Show quoted text -
>
> If it doesn't actually have a hole in the side and inside parts
> sticking out, it can be fixed. And if the rest of the car is in decent
> shape, very likely cost effectively. But the used engine route, if
> available, is cheaper than doing a rebuild or buying a rebuilt. Most
> junkyards will give you a warranty that the engine isn't defective
> when installed, and given Honda's reputation for durability that's
> pretty much all you need.- Hide quoted text -
>
> - Show quoted text -
We are going to take it to the guy we found in the area. I actually
have somewhat of a phobia about mechanics because I have yet to have
a
good trustworthy experience with one. I am going the used engine
route, hopefully that is all that needs to be fixed and my car will
be
up and running again in no time, we're going to have the guy check to
see if it is the headgasket although everytime I've read about that
the car overheating always happens and mine stays steady at the same
temp that it was when I first bought it. I am never going to the
dealership again for auto repairs. They did a compression test, or
at
least that's what they told me and when my husband called them they
told him that it "wasn't great" but could give him no other
information. Now I'm wondering if the test was even done or if they
just had me sit around for hours just so they could get me in the
showroom!
> On May 29, 4:38 pm, Lena Fields <Lena...@gmail.com> wrote:
>
>
>
>
>
> > On May 29, 1:34 pm, Joe LaVigne <jlavi...@hits-buffalo.com> wrote:
>
> > > Lena Fields wrote:
> > > >> Well, there is definitely a mystery here. if there was just a leaky
> > > >> gasket/o rings (in the cam cover, I assume) in the first place, then
> > > >> that shouldn't have led to white smoke when accelerating or engine
> > > >> struggling. And not to engine death the next day. And, god knows what
> > > >> could possibly lead to oil in "the spark plug**S**" One cylinder
> > > >> getting oiled up, sure, could be anything from a valve seal to a hole
> > > >> in the piston, but more than one???????
>
> > > >> You need a second opinion, for sure.- Hide quoted text -
>
> > > >> - Show quoted text -
>
> > > > They said it was all four cylinders. They said they didn't
> > > > investigate the smoke problem since I said I "thought" it was related
> > > > to the oil leak. But from what I've read since that point the smoke
> > > > would have been gray not white, right? They didn't go into detail
> > > > except to say that I need a new engine to the tune of $3,000 so it
> > > > would be better to buy one of their cars.
>
> > > You can get a used JDM engine for much less, and have it installed by a shop
> > > specializing in Japanese cars. All told, you'll probably be out a little
> > > over a grand.- Hide quoted text -
>
> > > - Show quoted text -
>
> > Really? That's all? My husband in calling around has gotten the
> > close to the 3 grand mark from other shops around here. Honda offered
> > me a used engine for the $3,000, I shudder to think what a new one
> > would run. Do you think it could be fixed though, my current one? Or
> > is it hopeless?- Hide quoted text -
>
> > - Show quoted text -
>
> If it doesn't actually have a hole in the side and inside parts
> sticking out, it can be fixed. And if the rest of the car is in decent
> shape, very likely cost effectively. But the used engine route, if
> available, is cheaper than doing a rebuild or buying a rebuilt. Most
> junkyards will give you a warranty that the engine isn't defective
> when installed, and given Honda's reputation for durability that's
> pretty much all you need.- Hide quoted text -
>
> - Show quoted text -
We are going to take it to the guy we found in the area. I actually
have somewhat of a phobia about mechanics because I have yet to have
a
good trustworthy experience with one. I am going the used engine
route, hopefully that is all that needs to be fixed and my car will
be
up and running again in no time, we're going to have the guy check to
see if it is the headgasket although everytime I've read about that
the car overheating always happens and mine stays steady at the same
temp that it was when I first bought it. I am never going to the
dealership again for auto repairs. They did a compression test, or
at
least that's what they told me and when my husband called them they
told him that it "wasn't great" but could give him no other
information. Now I'm wondering if the test was even done or if they
just had me sit around for hours just so they could get me in the
showroom!
05-30-2007, 01:11 PM
#30
Guest
Posts: n/a
Re: 1995 Honda Civic EX White smoke
On May 30, 7:41 am, z <gzuck...@snail-mail.net> wrote:
> On May 29, 4:38 pm, Lena Fields <Lena...@gmail.com> wrote:
>
>
>
>
>
> > On May 29, 1:34 pm, Joe LaVigne <jlavi...@hits-buffalo.com> wrote:
>
> > > Lena Fields wrote:
> > > >> Well, there is definitely a mystery here. if there was just a leaky
> > > >> gasket/o rings (in the cam cover, I assume) in the first place, then
> > > >> that shouldn't have led to white smoke when accelerating or engine
> > > >> struggling. And not to engine death the next day. And, god knows what
> > > >> could possibly lead to oil in "the spark plug**S**" One cylinder
> > > >> getting oiled up, sure, could be anything from a valve seal to a hole
> > > >> in the piston, but more than one???????
>
> > > >> You need a second opinion, for sure.- Hide quoted text -
>
> > > >> - Show quoted text -
>
> > > > They said it was all four cylinders. They said they didn't
> > > > investigate the smoke problem since I said I "thought" it was related
> > > > to the oil leak. But from what I've read since that point the smoke
> > > > would have been gray not white, right? They didn't go into detail
> > > > except to say that I need a new engine to the tune of $3,000 so it
> > > > would be better to buy one of their cars.
>
> > > You can get a used JDM engine for much less, and have it installed by a shop
> > > specializing in Japanese cars. All told, you'll probably be out a little
> > > over a grand.- Hide quoted text -
>
> > > - Show quoted text -
>
> > Really? That's all? My husband in calling around has gotten the
> > close to the 3 grand mark from other shops around here. Honda offered
> > me a used engine for the $3,000, I shudder to think what a new one
> > would run. Do you think it could be fixed though, my current one? Or
> > is it hopeless?- Hide quoted text -
>
> > - Show quoted text -
>
> If it doesn't actually have a hole in the side and inside parts
> sticking out, it can be fixed. And if the rest of the car is in decent
> shape, very likely cost effectively. But the used engine route, if
> available, is cheaper than doing a rebuild or buying a rebuilt. Most
> junkyards will give you a warranty that the engine isn't defective
> when installed, and given Honda's reputation for durability that's
> pretty much all you need.- Hide quoted text -
>
> - Show quoted text -
We are going to take it to the guy we found in the area. I actually
have somewhat of a phobia about mechanics because I have yet to have
a
good trustworthy experience with one. I am going the used engine
route, hopefully that is all that needs to be fixed and my car will
be
up and running again in no time, we're going to have the guy check to
see if it is the headgasket although everytime I've read about that
the car overheating always happens and mine stays steady at the same
temp that it was when I first bought it. I am never going to the
dealership again for auto repairs. They did a compression test, or
at
least that's what they told me and when my husband called them they
told him that it "wasn't great" but could give him no other
information. Now I'm wondering if the test was even done or if they
just had me sit around for hours just so they could get me in the
showroom!
> On May 29, 4:38 pm, Lena Fields <Lena...@gmail.com> wrote:
>
>
>
>
>
> > On May 29, 1:34 pm, Joe LaVigne <jlavi...@hits-buffalo.com> wrote:
>
> > > Lena Fields wrote:
> > > >> Well, there is definitely a mystery here. if there was just a leaky
> > > >> gasket/o rings (in the cam cover, I assume) in the first place, then
> > > >> that shouldn't have led to white smoke when accelerating or engine
> > > >> struggling. And not to engine death the next day. And, god knows what
> > > >> could possibly lead to oil in "the spark plug**S**" One cylinder
> > > >> getting oiled up, sure, could be anything from a valve seal to a hole
> > > >> in the piston, but more than one???????
>
> > > >> You need a second opinion, for sure.- Hide quoted text -
>
> > > >> - Show quoted text -
>
> > > > They said it was all four cylinders. They said they didn't
> > > > investigate the smoke problem since I said I "thought" it was related
> > > > to the oil leak. But from what I've read since that point the smoke
> > > > would have been gray not white, right? They didn't go into detail
> > > > except to say that I need a new engine to the tune of $3,000 so it
> > > > would be better to buy one of their cars.
>
> > > You can get a used JDM engine for much less, and have it installed by a shop
> > > specializing in Japanese cars. All told, you'll probably be out a little
> > > over a grand.- Hide quoted text -
>
> > > - Show quoted text -
>
> > Really? That's all? My husband in calling around has gotten the
> > close to the 3 grand mark from other shops around here. Honda offered
> > me a used engine for the $3,000, I shudder to think what a new one
> > would run. Do you think it could be fixed though, my current one? Or
> > is it hopeless?- Hide quoted text -
>
> > - Show quoted text -
>
> If it doesn't actually have a hole in the side and inside parts
> sticking out, it can be fixed. And if the rest of the car is in decent
> shape, very likely cost effectively. But the used engine route, if
> available, is cheaper than doing a rebuild or buying a rebuilt. Most
> junkyards will give you a warranty that the engine isn't defective
> when installed, and given Honda's reputation for durability that's
> pretty much all you need.- Hide quoted text -
>
> - Show quoted text -
We are going to take it to the guy we found in the area. I actually
have somewhat of a phobia about mechanics because I have yet to have
a
good trustworthy experience with one. I am going the used engine
route, hopefully that is all that needs to be fixed and my car will
be
up and running again in no time, we're going to have the guy check to
see if it is the headgasket although everytime I've read about that
the car overheating always happens and mine stays steady at the same
temp that it was when I first bought it. I am never going to the
dealership again for auto repairs. They did a compression test, or
at
least that's what they told me and when my husband called them they
told him that it "wasn't great" but could give him no other
information. Now I'm wondering if the test was even done or if they
just had me sit around for hours just so they could get me in the
showroom!