snibble1

Tpok my Honda in, had expansion valve replaced. Vehicle cools if driving on
freeway. In town, stop and go, or stop at a drive-thru and the air starts
blowing warmer. Never blows under 60 degree air. Repair shop is stumped.
Blower motor, fan, and relay switch working. Any ideas??

Stewart DIBBS

"snibble1" <a901u@aol.com> wrote in message
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> Tpok my Honda in, had expansion valve replaced. Vehicle cools if driving
> on
> freeway. In town, stop and go, or stop at a drive-thru and the air starts
> blowing warmer. Never blows under 60 degree air. Repair shop is stumped.
> Blower motor, fan, and relay switch working.

Well, if your model SHOULD blow colder, then there's a problem. A/C systems
are not that complicated.

The gas is compressed to a high pressure, heating it. It then passes through
the condensor (front rad) to cool it down, then flows to the evaporator in
the cabin, where the size of the pipes get larger. This reduces the
pressure, resulting in a decrease in temperature, hence air blown through
the evaporator is cooled. Then the gas circulates back to the compressor.

OK. If your shop has measured the high and low pressure sides and found them
correct, and the system won't blow colder than 60, then I'd suggest the
following.
a) have the dual pressure switch checked. This is a switch that shuts down
the a/c if the gas pressure gets too low or too high. In town, the engine
runs hotter, and the a/c will start and stop to protect itself.
b) I'd also see if the condensor is covered in dirt and bugs. A good water
pressure clean can do wonders. Also, verify that the a/c fan is in fact
sucking air through the condensor, not trying to blow it forewards. Is
anything blocking air flow?
c) is the compressor clutch kicking in properly? Are you sure? Is the
compresser clutch slipping?
d) is anything blocking the air flow through the evaporator?

Stewart DIBBS

Stewart DIBBS

"snibble1" <a901u@aol.com> wrote in message
news:64f31c9c3a373bb7beb8cfcd3c95e83c@localhost.ta lkaboutautos.com...
> Tpok my Honda in, had expansion valve replaced. Vehicle cools if driving
> on
> freeway. In town, stop and go, or stop at a drive-thru and the air starts
> blowing warmer. Never blows under 60 degree air. Repair shop is stumped.
> Blower motor, fan, and relay switch working.

Well, if your model SHOULD blow colder, then there's a problem. A/C systems
are not that complicated.

The gas is compressed to a high pressure, heating it. It then passes through
the condensor (front rad) to cool it down, then flows to the evaporator in
the cabin, where the size of the pipes get larger. This reduces the
pressure, resulting in a decrease in temperature, hence air blown through
the evaporator is cooled. Then the gas circulates back to the compressor.

OK. If your shop has measured the high and low pressure sides and found them
correct, and the system won't blow colder than 60, then I'd suggest the
following.
a) have the dual pressure switch checked. This is a switch that shuts down
the a/c if the gas pressure gets too low or too high. In town, the engine
runs hotter, and the a/c will start and stop to protect itself.
b) I'd also see if the condensor is covered in dirt and bugs. A good water
pressure clean can do wonders. Also, verify that the a/c fan is in fact
sucking air through the condensor, not trying to blow it forewards. Is
anything blocking air flow?
c) is the compressor clutch kicking in properly? Are you sure? Is the
compresser clutch slipping?
d) is anything blocking the air flow through the evaporator?

Stewart DIBBS

chip

On Sat, 2 Jul 2005 21:53:00 -0400, "Stewart DIBBS" <sjd@pixcl.com>
wrote:

>
>"snibble1" <a901u@aol.com> wrote in message
>news:64f31c9c3a373bb7beb8cfcd3c95e83c@localhost.t alkaboutautos.com...
>> Tpok my Honda in, had expansion valve replaced. Vehicle cools if driving
>> on
>> freeway. In town, stop and go, or stop at a drive-thru and the air starts
>> blowing warmer. Never blows under 60 degree air. Repair shop is stumped.
>> Blower motor, fan, and relay switch working.
>
>Well, if your model SHOULD blow colder, then there's a problem. A/C systems
>are not that complicated.
>
>The gas is compressed to a high pressure, heating it. It then passes through
>the condensor (front rad) to cool it down, then flows to the evaporator in
>the cabin, where the size of the pipes get larger. This reduces the
>pressure, resulting in a decrease in temperature, hence air blown through
>the evaporator is cooled. Then the gas circulates back to the compressor.
>
>OK. If your shop has measured the high and low pressure sides and found them
>correct, and the system won't blow colder than 60, then I'd suggest the
>following.
>a) have the dual pressure switch checked. This is a switch that shuts down
>the a/c if the gas pressure gets too low or too high. In town, the engine
>runs hotter, and the a/c will start and stop to protect itself.
>b) I'd also see if the condensor is covered in dirt and bugs. A good water
>pressure clean can do wonders. Also, verify that the a/c fan is in fact
>sucking air through the condensor, not trying to blow it forewards. Is
>anything blocking air flow?
>c) is the compressor clutch kicking in properly? Are you sure? Is the
>compresser clutch slipping?
>d) is anything blocking the air flow through the evaporator?
>
>Stewart DIBBS
>

bad condenser fan motor.
Chip

chip

On Sat, 2 Jul 2005 21:53:00 -0400, "Stewart DIBBS" <sjd@pixcl.com>
wrote:

>
>"snibble1" <a901u@aol.com> wrote in message
>news:64f31c9c3a373bb7beb8cfcd3c95e83c@localhost.t alkaboutautos.com...
>> Tpok my Honda in, had expansion valve replaced. Vehicle cools if driving
>> on
>> freeway. In town, stop and go, or stop at a drive-thru and the air starts
>> blowing warmer. Never blows under 60 degree air. Repair shop is stumped.
>> Blower motor, fan, and relay switch working.
>
>Well, if your model SHOULD blow colder, then there's a problem. A/C systems
>are not that complicated.
>
>The gas is compressed to a high pressure, heating it. It then passes through
>the condensor (front rad) to cool it down, then flows to the evaporator in
>the cabin, where the size of the pipes get larger. This reduces the
>pressure, resulting in a decrease in temperature, hence air blown through
>the evaporator is cooled. Then the gas circulates back to the compressor.
>
>OK. If your shop has measured the high and low pressure sides and found them
>correct, and the system won't blow colder than 60, then I'd suggest the
>following.
>a) have the dual pressure switch checked. This is a switch that shuts down
>the a/c if the gas pressure gets too low or too high. In town, the engine
>runs hotter, and the a/c will start and stop to protect itself.
>b) I'd also see if the condensor is covered in dirt and bugs. A good water
>pressure clean can do wonders. Also, verify that the a/c fan is in fact
>sucking air through the condensor, not trying to blow it forewards. Is
>anything blocking air flow?
>c) is the compressor clutch kicking in properly? Are you sure? Is the
>compresser clutch slipping?
>d) is anything blocking the air flow through the evaporator?
>
>Stewart DIBBS
>

bad condenser fan motor.
Chip

snibble1

OK, repair shop went through compressor and replaced expansion valve a
second time. Replaced condenser---still blows 50 degrees on the freeway,
but stop at signals and it starts blowing hot air...get on freeway, cold
again, stop and go..hot air. Any other ideas??

snibble1

OK, repair shop went through compressor and replaced expansion valve a
second time. Replaced condenser---still blows 50 degrees on the freeway,
but stop at signals and it starts blowing hot air...get on freeway, cold
again, stop and go..hot air. Any other ideas??

Cinder Lane

When you are speeding along the freeway, the car's natural forward
motion is enough to drive air through the condenser coil to cool it off.
When you are stopped or going slow, the air conditioner relies on the
radiator's FAN to drive the air through. Apparently, the fan is not
working. The fix MIGHT be as simple as replacing the fan's fuse, if the
fuse had blown.

Cinder Lane

When you are speeding along the freeway, the car's natural forward
motion is enough to drive air through the condenser coil to cool it off.
When you are stopped or going slow, the air conditioner relies on the
radiator's FAN to drive the air through. Apparently, the fan is not
working. The fix MIGHT be as simple as replacing the fan's fuse, if the
fuse had blown.

snibble1

No luck there. Shop just replaced the condenser, rebuilt the compressor
and expansion valve. We are really STUMPED now!
Anyone have any other ideas? There are only so many parts to the system!

snibble1

No luck there. Shop just replaced the condenser, rebuilt the compressor
and expansion valve. We are really STUMPED now!
Anyone have any other ideas? There are only so many parts to the system!