1998 honda civic motor rotation
hello folks.
has anyone run across a situation where the motor of a 1998 civic rotates on acceleration to the point where the exhaust compression joint, just below the down pipe, separates and makes a 'clunk' noise? if so, or if you can imagine this, please tell me which motor mounts need replaced, or if a damper can be installed to resolve this. is this a recall or TSB by any chance? thx. fish. |
Re: 1998 honda civic motor rotation
I am assuming that the motor mounts are my problem. Does anyone have
experience with motor mounts? How easy are they to replace? I do quite a bit of work on my car, I have done shocks all around, brake work including replacing calipers, and also repacking a CV joint on a 1991 honda accord. Can someone offer up the steps required for replacing these motor mounts? And, would one of the motor mounts be worse off than the others? thanks again. fish "Fish" <fishingrod45@hotmail.com> wrote in message news:9Av_c.300220$fv.180665@fe2.columbus.rr.com... > hello folks. > > has anyone run across a situation where the motor of a 1998 civic rotates on > acceleration to the point where the exhaust compression joint, just below > the down pipe, separates and makes a 'clunk' noise? if so, or if you can > imagine this, please tell me which motor mounts need replaced, or if a > damper can be installed to resolve this. is this a recall or TSB by any > chance? > > thx. > fish. > > |
Re: 1998 honda civic motor rotation
I am assuming that the motor mounts are my problem. Does anyone have
experience with motor mounts? How easy are they to replace? I do quite a bit of work on my car, I have done shocks all around, brake work including replacing calipers, and also repacking a CV joint on a 1991 honda accord. Can someone offer up the steps required for replacing these motor mounts? And, would one of the motor mounts be worse off than the others? thanks again. fish "Fish" <fishingrod45@hotmail.com> wrote in message news:9Av_c.300220$fv.180665@fe2.columbus.rr.com... > hello folks. > > has anyone run across a situation where the motor of a 1998 civic rotates on > acceleration to the point where the exhaust compression joint, just below > the down pipe, separates and makes a 'clunk' noise? if so, or if you can > imagine this, please tell me which motor mounts need replaced, or if a > damper can be installed to resolve this. is this a recall or TSB by any > chance? > > thx. > fish. > > |
Re: 1998 honda civic motor rotation
the most important one is the rear. put it in gear [or park] and rock
the car back & forward - you'll see it in action and can tell if it's faulty. would this be an automatic, and have you by any chance changed the transmission fluid? anything but honda fluid makes a dramatic [detrimental] difference to shift quality, and severe loading on the motor mounts. Fish wrote: > I am assuming that the motor mounts are my problem. Does anyone have > experience with motor mounts? How easy are they to replace? I do quite a > bit of work on my car, I have done shocks all around, brake work including > replacing calipers, and also repacking a CV joint on a 1991 honda accord. > Can someone offer up the steps required for replacing these motor mounts? > And, would one of the motor mounts be worse off than the others? > > thanks again. > fish > > > "Fish" <fishingrod45@hotmail.com> wrote in message > news:9Av_c.300220$fv.180665@fe2.columbus.rr.com... > >>hello folks. >> >>has anyone run across a situation where the motor of a 1998 civic rotates > > on > >>acceleration to the point where the exhaust compression joint, just below >>the down pipe, separates and makes a 'clunk' noise? if so, or if you can >>imagine this, please tell me which motor mounts need replaced, or if a >>damper can be installed to resolve this. is this a recall or TSB by any >>chance? >> >>thx. >>fish. >> >> > > > |
Re: 1998 honda civic motor rotation
the most important one is the rear. put it in gear [or park] and rock
the car back & forward - you'll see it in action and can tell if it's faulty. would this be an automatic, and have you by any chance changed the transmission fluid? anything but honda fluid makes a dramatic [detrimental] difference to shift quality, and severe loading on the motor mounts. Fish wrote: > I am assuming that the motor mounts are my problem. Does anyone have > experience with motor mounts? How easy are they to replace? I do quite a > bit of work on my car, I have done shocks all around, brake work including > replacing calipers, and also repacking a CV joint on a 1991 honda accord. > Can someone offer up the steps required for replacing these motor mounts? > And, would one of the motor mounts be worse off than the others? > > thanks again. > fish > > > "Fish" <fishingrod45@hotmail.com> wrote in message > news:9Av_c.300220$fv.180665@fe2.columbus.rr.com... > >>hello folks. >> >>has anyone run across a situation where the motor of a 1998 civic rotates > > on > >>acceleration to the point where the exhaust compression joint, just below >>the down pipe, separates and makes a 'clunk' noise? if so, or if you can >>imagine this, please tell me which motor mounts need replaced, or if a >>damper can be installed to resolve this. is this a recall or TSB by any >>chance? >> >>thx. >>fish. >> >> > > > |
Re: 1998 honda civic motor rotation
Jim,
excellent, i will perform this check. it is automatic so i will zero in on the rear mount. by the way, is that rear mount on the top or bottom of the engine? i got a feeling its on the top. I think i did replace the transmission fluid on this car, and yes i drive straight to the dealer for the honda brand fluid. thank you. tom "jim beam" <nospam@example.net> wrote in message news:2tKdnTxpFfPIoqbcRVn-sA@comcast.com... > the most important one is the rear. put it in gear [or park] and rock > the car back & forward - you'll see it in action and can tell if it's > faulty. > > would this be an automatic, and have you by any chance changed the > transmission fluid? anything but honda fluid makes a dramatic > [detrimental] difference to shift quality, and severe loading on the > motor mounts. > > Fish wrote: > > I am assuming that the motor mounts are my problem. Does anyone have > > experience with motor mounts? How easy are they to replace? I do quite a > > bit of work on my car, I have done shocks all around, brake work including > > replacing calipers, and also repacking a CV joint on a 1991 honda accord. > > Can someone offer up the steps required for replacing these motor mounts? > > And, would one of the motor mounts be worse off than the others? > > > > thanks again. > > fish > > > > > > "Fish" <fishingrod45@hotmail.com> wrote in message > > news:9Av_c.300220$fv.180665@fe2.columbus.rr.com... > > > >>hello folks. > >> > >>has anyone run across a situation where the motor of a 1998 civic rotates > > > > on > > > >>acceleration to the point where the exhaust compression joint, just below > >>the down pipe, separates and makes a 'clunk' noise? if so, or if you can > >>imagine this, please tell me which motor mounts need replaced, or if a > >>damper can be installed to resolve this. is this a recall or TSB by any > >>chance? > >> > >>thx. > >>fish. > >> > >> > > > > > > > |
Re: 1998 honda civic motor rotation
Jim,
excellent, i will perform this check. it is automatic so i will zero in on the rear mount. by the way, is that rear mount on the top or bottom of the engine? i got a feeling its on the top. I think i did replace the transmission fluid on this car, and yes i drive straight to the dealer for the honda brand fluid. thank you. tom "jim beam" <nospam@example.net> wrote in message news:2tKdnTxpFfPIoqbcRVn-sA@comcast.com... > the most important one is the rear. put it in gear [or park] and rock > the car back & forward - you'll see it in action and can tell if it's > faulty. > > would this be an automatic, and have you by any chance changed the > transmission fluid? anything but honda fluid makes a dramatic > [detrimental] difference to shift quality, and severe loading on the > motor mounts. > > Fish wrote: > > I am assuming that the motor mounts are my problem. Does anyone have > > experience with motor mounts? How easy are they to replace? I do quite a > > bit of work on my car, I have done shocks all around, brake work including > > replacing calipers, and also repacking a CV joint on a 1991 honda accord. > > Can someone offer up the steps required for replacing these motor mounts? > > And, would one of the motor mounts be worse off than the others? > > > > thanks again. > > fish > > > > > > "Fish" <fishingrod45@hotmail.com> wrote in message > > news:9Av_c.300220$fv.180665@fe2.columbus.rr.com... > > > >>hello folks. > >> > >>has anyone run across a situation where the motor of a 1998 civic rotates > > > > on > > > >>acceleration to the point where the exhaust compression joint, just below > >>the down pipe, separates and makes a 'clunk' noise? if so, or if you can > >>imagine this, please tell me which motor mounts need replaced, or if a > >>damper can be installed to resolve this. is this a recall or TSB by any > >>chance? > >> > >>thx. > >>fish. > >> > >> > > > > > > > |
Re: 1998 honda civic motor rotation
it's on the bottom, way at the back. it's a bit of a p.i.t.a. to get
to, but is doable. the one thing that may be a problem is the big bolt in the center of the mount. there's not a lot of rotation room - it's really designed for air tool access from what i can see. there are also two small mounts on each side at the front, but they are more like bump stops than proper mounts. thye have some adjustment so you can try adjusting the positon of these a bit, but check the rear first. Fish wrote: > Jim, > > excellent, i will perform this check. it is automatic so i will zero in on > the rear mount. by the way, is that rear mount on the top or bottom of the > engine? i got a feeling its on the top. > > I think i did replace the transmission fluid on this car, and yes i drive > straight to the dealer for the honda brand fluid. > > thank you. > tom > > > "jim beam" <nospam@example.net> wrote in message > news:2tKdnTxpFfPIoqbcRVn-sA@comcast.com... > >>the most important one is the rear. put it in gear [or park] and rock >>the car back & forward - you'll see it in action and can tell if it's >>faulty. >> >>would this be an automatic, and have you by any chance changed the >>transmission fluid? anything but honda fluid makes a dramatic >>[detrimental] difference to shift quality, and severe loading on the >>motor mounts. >> >>Fish wrote: >> >>>I am assuming that the motor mounts are my problem. Does anyone have >>>experience with motor mounts? How easy are they to replace? I do quite > > a > >>>bit of work on my car, I have done shocks all around, brake work > > including > >>>replacing calipers, and also repacking a CV joint on a 1991 honda > > accord. > >>>Can someone offer up the steps required for replacing these motor > > mounts? > >>>And, would one of the motor mounts be worse off than the others? >>> >>>thanks again. >>>fish >>> >>> >>>"Fish" <fishingrod45@hotmail.com> wrote in message >>>news:9Av_c.300220$fv.180665@fe2.columbus.rr.com ... >>> >>> >>>>hello folks. >>>> >>>>has anyone run across a situation where the motor of a 1998 civic > > rotates > >>>on >>> >>> >>>>acceleration to the point where the exhaust compression joint, just > > below > >>>>the down pipe, separates and makes a 'clunk' noise? if so, or if you > > can > >>>>imagine this, please tell me which motor mounts need replaced, or if a >>>>damper can be installed to resolve this. is this a recall or TSB by any >>>>chance? >>>> >>>>thx. >>>>fish. >>>> >>>> >>> >>> >>> > > |
Re: 1998 honda civic motor rotation
it's on the bottom, way at the back. it's a bit of a p.i.t.a. to get
to, but is doable. the one thing that may be a problem is the big bolt in the center of the mount. there's not a lot of rotation room - it's really designed for air tool access from what i can see. there are also two small mounts on each side at the front, but they are more like bump stops than proper mounts. thye have some adjustment so you can try adjusting the positon of these a bit, but check the rear first. Fish wrote: > Jim, > > excellent, i will perform this check. it is automatic so i will zero in on > the rear mount. by the way, is that rear mount on the top or bottom of the > engine? i got a feeling its on the top. > > I think i did replace the transmission fluid on this car, and yes i drive > straight to the dealer for the honda brand fluid. > > thank you. > tom > > > "jim beam" <nospam@example.net> wrote in message > news:2tKdnTxpFfPIoqbcRVn-sA@comcast.com... > >>the most important one is the rear. put it in gear [or park] and rock >>the car back & forward - you'll see it in action and can tell if it's >>faulty. >> >>would this be an automatic, and have you by any chance changed the >>transmission fluid? anything but honda fluid makes a dramatic >>[detrimental] difference to shift quality, and severe loading on the >>motor mounts. >> >>Fish wrote: >> >>>I am assuming that the motor mounts are my problem. Does anyone have >>>experience with motor mounts? How easy are they to replace? I do quite > > a > >>>bit of work on my car, I have done shocks all around, brake work > > including > >>>replacing calipers, and also repacking a CV joint on a 1991 honda > > accord. > >>>Can someone offer up the steps required for replacing these motor > > mounts? > >>>And, would one of the motor mounts be worse off than the others? >>> >>>thanks again. >>>fish >>> >>> >>>"Fish" <fishingrod45@hotmail.com> wrote in message >>>news:9Av_c.300220$fv.180665@fe2.columbus.rr.com ... >>> >>> >>>>hello folks. >>>> >>>>has anyone run across a situation where the motor of a 1998 civic > > rotates > >>>on >>> >>> >>>>acceleration to the point where the exhaust compression joint, just > > below > >>>>the down pipe, separates and makes a 'clunk' noise? if so, or if you > > can > >>>>imagine this, please tell me which motor mounts need replaced, or if a >>>>damper can be installed to resolve this. is this a recall or TSB by any >>>>chance? >>>> >>>>thx. >>>>fish. >>>> >>>> >>> >>> >>> > > |
Re: 1998 honda civic motor rotation
jim beam,
thanks for the tips and encouragement. i will definitely perform this inspection and likely the repair also. tom "jim beam" <nospam@example.net> wrote in message news:RbOdnSTvFrkj2abcRVn-vQ@comcast.com... > it's on the bottom, way at the back. it's a bit of a p.i.t.a. to get > to, but is doable. the one thing that may be a problem is the big bolt > in the center of the mount. there's not a lot of rotation room - it's > really designed for air tool access from what i can see. > > there are also two small mounts on each side at the front, but they are > more like bump stops than proper mounts. thye have some adjustment so > you can try adjusting the positon of these a bit, but check the rear first. > > Fish wrote: > > Jim, > > > > excellent, i will perform this check. it is automatic so i will zero in on > > the rear mount. by the way, is that rear mount on the top or bottom of the > > engine? i got a feeling its on the top. > > > > I think i did replace the transmission fluid on this car, and yes i drive > > straight to the dealer for the honda brand fluid. > > > > thank you. > > tom > > > > > > "jim beam" <nospam@example.net> wrote in message > > news:2tKdnTxpFfPIoqbcRVn-sA@comcast.com... > > > >>the most important one is the rear. put it in gear [or park] and rock > >>the car back & forward - you'll see it in action and can tell if it's > >>faulty. > >> > >>would this be an automatic, and have you by any chance changed the > >>transmission fluid? anything but honda fluid makes a dramatic > >>[detrimental] difference to shift quality, and severe loading on the > >>motor mounts. > >> > >>Fish wrote: > >> > >>>I am assuming that the motor mounts are my problem. Does anyone have > >>>experience with motor mounts? How easy are they to replace? I do quite > > > > a > > > >>>bit of work on my car, I have done shocks all around, brake work > > > > including > > > >>>replacing calipers, and also repacking a CV joint on a 1991 honda > > > > accord. > > > >>>Can someone offer up the steps required for replacing these motor > > > > mounts? > > > >>>And, would one of the motor mounts be worse off than the others? > >>> > >>>thanks again. > >>>fish > >>> > >>> > >>>"Fish" <fishingrod45@hotmail.com> wrote in message > >>>news:9Av_c.300220$fv.180665@fe2.columbus.rr.com ... > >>> > >>> > >>>>hello folks. > >>>> > >>>>has anyone run across a situation where the motor of a 1998 civic > > > > rotates > > > >>>on > >>> > >>> > >>>>acceleration to the point where the exhaust compression joint, just > > > > below > > > >>>>the down pipe, separates and makes a 'clunk' noise? if so, or if you > > > > can > > > >>>>imagine this, please tell me which motor mounts need replaced, or if a > >>>>damper can be installed to resolve this. is this a recall or TSB by any > >>>>chance? > >>>> > >>>>thx. > >>>>fish. > >>>> > >>>> > >>> > >>> > >>> > > > > > |
Re: 1998 honda civic motor rotation
jim beam,
thanks for the tips and encouragement. i will definitely perform this inspection and likely the repair also. tom "jim beam" <nospam@example.net> wrote in message news:RbOdnSTvFrkj2abcRVn-vQ@comcast.com... > it's on the bottom, way at the back. it's a bit of a p.i.t.a. to get > to, but is doable. the one thing that may be a problem is the big bolt > in the center of the mount. there's not a lot of rotation room - it's > really designed for air tool access from what i can see. > > there are also two small mounts on each side at the front, but they are > more like bump stops than proper mounts. thye have some adjustment so > you can try adjusting the positon of these a bit, but check the rear first. > > Fish wrote: > > Jim, > > > > excellent, i will perform this check. it is automatic so i will zero in on > > the rear mount. by the way, is that rear mount on the top or bottom of the > > engine? i got a feeling its on the top. > > > > I think i did replace the transmission fluid on this car, and yes i drive > > straight to the dealer for the honda brand fluid. > > > > thank you. > > tom > > > > > > "jim beam" <nospam@example.net> wrote in message > > news:2tKdnTxpFfPIoqbcRVn-sA@comcast.com... > > > >>the most important one is the rear. put it in gear [or park] and rock > >>the car back & forward - you'll see it in action and can tell if it's > >>faulty. > >> > >>would this be an automatic, and have you by any chance changed the > >>transmission fluid? anything but honda fluid makes a dramatic > >>[detrimental] difference to shift quality, and severe loading on the > >>motor mounts. > >> > >>Fish wrote: > >> > >>>I am assuming that the motor mounts are my problem. Does anyone have > >>>experience with motor mounts? How easy are they to replace? I do quite > > > > a > > > >>>bit of work on my car, I have done shocks all around, brake work > > > > including > > > >>>replacing calipers, and also repacking a CV joint on a 1991 honda > > > > accord. > > > >>>Can someone offer up the steps required for replacing these motor > > > > mounts? > > > >>>And, would one of the motor mounts be worse off than the others? > >>> > >>>thanks again. > >>>fish > >>> > >>> > >>>"Fish" <fishingrod45@hotmail.com> wrote in message > >>>news:9Av_c.300220$fv.180665@fe2.columbus.rr.com ... > >>> > >>> > >>>>hello folks. > >>>> > >>>>has anyone run across a situation where the motor of a 1998 civic > > > > rotates > > > >>>on > >>> > >>> > >>>>acceleration to the point where the exhaust compression joint, just > > > > below > > > >>>>the down pipe, separates and makes a 'clunk' noise? if so, or if you > > > > can > > > >>>>imagine this, please tell me which motor mounts need replaced, or if a > >>>>damper can be installed to resolve this. is this a recall or TSB by any > >>>>chance? > >>>> > >>>>thx. > >>>>fish. > >>>> > >>>> > >>> > >>> > >>> > > > > > |
Re: 1998 honda civic motor rotation
Another way of testing is to start engine, put the car in drive, press on
the brake and give it some gas while someone is watching under the hood. If you see more than 2 or 3 inches of rngine rock or movement, Jim Beam is correct. Replace rear motor mount. Good luck, Howard "Fish" <fishingrod45@hotmail.com> wrote in message news:9Av_c.300220$fv.180665@fe2.columbus.rr.com... > hello folks. > > has anyone run across a situation where the motor of a 1998 civic rotates on > acceleration to the point where the exhaust compression joint, just below > the down pipe, separates and makes a 'clunk' noise? if so, or if you can > imagine this, please tell me which motor mounts need replaced, or if a > damper can be installed to resolve this. is this a recall or TSB by any > chance? > > thx. > fish. > > |
Re: 1998 honda civic motor rotation
Another way of testing is to start engine, put the car in drive, press on
the brake and give it some gas while someone is watching under the hood. If you see more than 2 or 3 inches of rngine rock or movement, Jim Beam is correct. Replace rear motor mount. Good luck, Howard "Fish" <fishingrod45@hotmail.com> wrote in message news:9Av_c.300220$fv.180665@fe2.columbus.rr.com... > hello folks. > > has anyone run across a situation where the motor of a 1998 civic rotates on > acceleration to the point where the exhaust compression joint, just below > the down pipe, separates and makes a 'clunk' noise? if so, or if you can > imagine this, please tell me which motor mounts need replaced, or if a > damper can be installed to resolve this. is this a recall or TSB by any > chance? > > thx. > fish. > > |
Re: 1998 honda civic motor rotation
perfect. i have seen just that. i had an assistant rev the engine slightly
and the engine rocked quite a bit. it seems like a simple project to replace the inside of that rear mount, [relatively to other projects i have done], so thanks for the confirmation howard. its my understanding that the rear mount can be repaired by replacing the insert, is this your understanding howard? or, do i need to replace the whole mount? looking at this picture in the link provided below, can you tell me what item number is the rear mount? http://www.hondaautomotiveparts.com/...+ENGINE+MOUNTS tom "Howard" <howardh1951at@hotmail.com> wrote in message news:0aP_c.21512$Np2.17690@bignews4.bellsouth.net. .. > Another way of testing is to start engine, put the car in drive, press on > the brake and give it some gas while someone is watching under the hood. If > you see more than 2 or 3 inches of rngine rock or movement, Jim Beam is > correct. Replace rear motor mount. > Good luck, > Howard > "Fish" <fishingrod45@hotmail.com> wrote in message > news:9Av_c.300220$fv.180665@fe2.columbus.rr.com... > > hello folks. > > > > has anyone run across a situation where the motor of a 1998 civic rotates > on > > acceleration to the point where the exhaust compression joint, just below > > the down pipe, separates and makes a 'clunk' noise? if so, or if you can > > imagine this, please tell me which motor mounts need replaced, or if a > > damper can be installed to resolve this. is this a recall or TSB by any > > chance? > > > > thx. > > fish. > > > > > > |
Re: 1998 honda civic motor rotation
perfect. i have seen just that. i had an assistant rev the engine slightly
and the engine rocked quite a bit. it seems like a simple project to replace the inside of that rear mount, [relatively to other projects i have done], so thanks for the confirmation howard. its my understanding that the rear mount can be repaired by replacing the insert, is this your understanding howard? or, do i need to replace the whole mount? looking at this picture in the link provided below, can you tell me what item number is the rear mount? http://www.hondaautomotiveparts.com/...+ENGINE+MOUNTS tom "Howard" <howardh1951at@hotmail.com> wrote in message news:0aP_c.21512$Np2.17690@bignews4.bellsouth.net. .. > Another way of testing is to start engine, put the car in drive, press on > the brake and give it some gas while someone is watching under the hood. If > you see more than 2 or 3 inches of rngine rock or movement, Jim Beam is > correct. Replace rear motor mount. > Good luck, > Howard > "Fish" <fishingrod45@hotmail.com> wrote in message > news:9Av_c.300220$fv.180665@fe2.columbus.rr.com... > > hello folks. > > > > has anyone run across a situation where the motor of a 1998 civic rotates > on > > acceleration to the point where the exhaust compression joint, just below > > the down pipe, separates and makes a 'clunk' noise? if so, or if you can > > imagine this, please tell me which motor mounts need replaced, or if a > > damper can be installed to resolve this. is this a recall or TSB by any > > chance? > > > > thx. > > fish. > > > > > > |
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