2000 Civic power steering fluid
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Re: 2000 Civic power steering fluid
"Elle" <honda.lioness@spamnocox.net> wrote in news:icWxj.49$CD7.8
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>
> I think I would caution here to try very hard no to
> overfill. As I know you know from previous posts (IIRC), the
> reservoir's contents slosh around a lot when the pump is
> running.
I should check this next time I run the engine.
Fluid ejection into the catch container when draining is not that vigorous,
but it may appear differently when discharging into a more confined space.
> Overfilling even by a little sloshes some of the
> stuff out. If air is in the system, it will be more likely
> to be overfilled, at least temporarily, and the chances of
> sloshing loss are higher.
I've never once had a problem with overfilling. The problem I run into is
UNDERfilling, which results when the air exits the fluid, causing its
volume to drop. This is why there is need to check and top up as necessary
after a fluid change done the shop manual's way.
I add fluid to the reservoir up to the full mark, wait for it to drop, then
add more until it doesn't drop any more. Simple.
>
> The FS manual has a strong caution about overfilling as
> well.
Mine just says "CAUTION: Do not overfill the reservoir beyond the full
mark".
As a contrast, the warning against the wrong fluid reads: "CAUTION: Use
only GENUINE HONDA Power Steering Fluid...Using other fluids...will damage
the system".
Now THAT I"d call a "strong" caution.
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@newsfe11.phx:
>
> I think I would caution here to try very hard no to
> overfill. As I know you know from previous posts (IIRC), the
> reservoir's contents slosh around a lot when the pump is
> running.
I should check this next time I run the engine.
Fluid ejection into the catch container when draining is not that vigorous,
but it may appear differently when discharging into a more confined space.
> Overfilling even by a little sloshes some of the
> stuff out. If air is in the system, it will be more likely
> to be overfilled, at least temporarily, and the chances of
> sloshing loss are higher.
I've never once had a problem with overfilling. The problem I run into is
UNDERfilling, which results when the air exits the fluid, causing its
volume to drop. This is why there is need to check and top up as necessary
after a fluid change done the shop manual's way.
I add fluid to the reservoir up to the full mark, wait for it to drop, then
add more until it doesn't drop any more. Simple.
>
> The FS manual has a strong caution about overfilling as
> well.
Mine just says "CAUTION: Do not overfill the reservoir beyond the full
mark".
As a contrast, the warning against the wrong fluid reads: "CAUTION: Use
only GENUINE HONDA Power Steering Fluid...Using other fluids...will damage
the system".
Now THAT I"d call a "strong" caution.
--
Tegger
The Unofficial Honda/Acura FAQ
www.tegger.com/hondafaq/
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Re: 2000 Civic power steering fluid
Tegger <tegger@tegger.c0m> wrote in
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> "Elle" <honda.lioness@spamnocox.net> wrote in news:icWxj.49$CD7.8
> @newsfe11.phx:
>
>
>>
>> I think I would caution here to try very hard no to
>> overfill. As I know you know from previous posts (IIRC), the
>> reservoir's contents slosh around a lot when the pump is
>> running.
>
>
>
> I should check this next time I run the engine.
>
> Fluid ejection into the catch container when draining is not that
> vigorous, but it may appear differently when discharging into a more
> confined space.
>
>
>> Overfilling even by a little sloshes some of the
>> stuff out. If air is in the system, it will be more likely
>> to be overfilled, at least temporarily, and the chances of
>> sloshing loss are higher.
I just checked for fluid movement today.
When cold at idle, there was no movement of the fluid at all with the engine
running.
When hot, at idle or when revved, there was the barest trace of surface
rippling. It's the sort of rippling you get on the surface of a cup of coffee
when somebody walks past the table it's sitting on.
Certainly there is no trace of sloshing or other vigorous fluid action.
My fluid level is right up to the upper mark on the side of the reservoir.
I'm not going to try overfilling the reservoir, of course, but I'm left
wondering how high you'd have to overfill it before you ended up with
sloshing.
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Tegger
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news:Xns9A53B55DF5A9Dtegger@207.14.116.130:
> "Elle" <honda.lioness@spamnocox.net> wrote in news:icWxj.49$CD7.8
> @newsfe11.phx:
>
>
>>
>> I think I would caution here to try very hard no to
>> overfill. As I know you know from previous posts (IIRC), the
>> reservoir's contents slosh around a lot when the pump is
>> running.
>
>
>
> I should check this next time I run the engine.
>
> Fluid ejection into the catch container when draining is not that
> vigorous, but it may appear differently when discharging into a more
> confined space.
>
>
>> Overfilling even by a little sloshes some of the
>> stuff out. If air is in the system, it will be more likely
>> to be overfilled, at least temporarily, and the chances of
>> sloshing loss are higher.
I just checked for fluid movement today.
When cold at idle, there was no movement of the fluid at all with the engine
running.
When hot, at idle or when revved, there was the barest trace of surface
rippling. It's the sort of rippling you get on the surface of a cup of coffee
when somebody walks past the table it's sitting on.
Certainly there is no trace of sloshing or other vigorous fluid action.
My fluid level is right up to the upper mark on the side of the reservoir.
I'm not going to try overfilling the reservoir, of course, but I'm left
wondering how high you'd have to overfill it before you ended up with
sloshing.
--
Tegger
The Unofficial Honda/Acura FAQ
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Re: 2000 Civic power steering fluid
"Tegger" <tegger@tegger.c0m> wrote
> Certainly there is no trace of sloshing or other vigorous
> fluid action.
We observe different things then for properly filled
reservoirs. I am not trying to be, ya know, combative. Just
saying what my observation is for the archives.
> Certainly there is no trace of sloshing or other vigorous
> fluid action.
We observe different things then for properly filled
reservoirs. I am not trying to be, ya know, combative. Just
saying what my observation is for the archives.
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Re: 2000 Civic power steering fluid
"Elle" <honda.lioness@spamnocox.net> wrote in news:8RZyj.34569$kp6.6251
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> "Tegger" <tegger@tegger.c0m> wrote
>> Certainly there is no trace of sloshing or other vigorous
>> fluid action.
>
> We observe different things then for properly filled
> reservoirs. I am not trying to be, ya know, combative. Just
> saying what my observation is for the archives.
>
>
>
All I can tell is what I saw with my own eyes today.
I can make a video of it, if you like.
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Tegger
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> "Tegger" <tegger@tegger.c0m> wrote
>> Certainly there is no trace of sloshing or other vigorous
>> fluid action.
>
> We observe different things then for properly filled
> reservoirs. I am not trying to be, ya know, combative. Just
> saying what my observation is for the archives.
>
>
>
All I can tell is what I saw with my own eyes today.
I can make a video of it, if you like.
--
Tegger
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Re: 2000 Civic power steering fluid
Hey Tegger, no video necessary :-). I certainly believe you
observed no sloshing. Something's different--maybe something
with the cars--in our experiences, that's all. I thought I
saw other reports here over the years reporting on the
sloshing. But it's not important enough to me to google on.
"Tegger" <tegger@tegger.c0m> wrote
> All I can tell is what I saw with my own eyes today.
>
> I can make a video of it, if you like.
observed no sloshing. Something's different--maybe something
with the cars--in our experiences, that's all. I thought I
saw other reports here over the years reporting on the
sloshing. But it's not important enough to me to google on.
"Tegger" <tegger@tegger.c0m> wrote
> All I can tell is what I saw with my own eyes today.
>
> I can make a video of it, if you like.
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Re: 2000 Civic power steering fluid
"Elle" <honda.lioness@spamnocox.net> wrote in news:Qz_yj.59393$ov5.46263
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> Hey Tegger, no video necessary :-). I certainly believe you
> observed no sloshing. Something's different--maybe something
> with the cars--in our experiences, that's all. I thought I
> saw other reports here over the years reporting on the
> sloshing. But it's not important enough to me to google on.
I'm going to make a video on the weekend anyway. Or sooner.
I will rev the engine to about 5,000rpm as I show the action of the fluid
in the reservoir. This will get posted to the Misc directory on my site.
Plus -- I will temporarily overfill the reservoir to see what the action
is. I figure a few seconds of overfill can't possibly harm anything except
maybe my shirt. Be there or be square!
--
Tegger
The Unofficial Honda/Acura FAQ
www.tegger.com/hondafaq/
@newsfe15.phx:
> Hey Tegger, no video necessary :-). I certainly believe you
> observed no sloshing. Something's different--maybe something
> with the cars--in our experiences, that's all. I thought I
> saw other reports here over the years reporting on the
> sloshing. But it's not important enough to me to google on.
I'm going to make a video on the weekend anyway. Or sooner.
I will rev the engine to about 5,000rpm as I show the action of the fluid
in the reservoir. This will get posted to the Misc directory on my site.
Plus -- I will temporarily overfill the reservoir to see what the action
is. I figure a few seconds of overfill can't possibly harm anything except
maybe my shirt. Be there or be square!
--
Tegger
The Unofficial Honda/Acura FAQ
www.tegger.com/hondafaq/
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