Re: 2000 Civic SiR low, rough idle
 

Man I should have looked closer! Your right TeGGer, so that means that when
it idles low it drops down to 500rpm or a little above that.


"TeGGer®" <tegger@istop.c0m> wrote in message
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> "JEHU" <dcoxNOSPAM@hfx.eastlink.ca> wrote in
> news:UHvQd.52580$gA4.5839@edtnps89:
>
>>> Been a while since I looked at the tach on your generation, but is
>>> there not
>>> 1) a zero line
>>> 2) two lines above that, unevenly spaced, and
>>> 3) a 1000rpm line?
>>
>> It is pouring down rain today.. so I can't check for the air leak or
>> the sticker but i did look at the tach today. There is a zero line
>> then 5 small lines between the zero and the 1000 line all evenly
>> spaced. The one closest to the zero line is thicker like the zero
>> line. Rpms drop to just above the thick 1st line.
>
>
>
> That's 500 rpm. Count up.
> "thick 1st line": 500
> 2nd line: 600
> 3rd line: 700
> 4th line: 800
> 5th line: 900
> 1000rpm.
>
> The tach does not reliably read below 500.
>
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Re: 2000 Civic SiR low, rough idle
 

"JEHU" <dcoxNOSPAM@hfx.eastlink.ca> wrote in
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> Man I should have looked closer! Your right TeGGer, so that means
> that when it idles low it drops down to 500rpm or a little above that.


If that's the case, you may simply need an idle speed adjustment.

Make sure that throttle body has no soot or gunk, then see these files:
www.tegger.com/hondafaq/misc/11-111.pdf
and
www.tegger.com/hondafaq/misc/11-112.pdf

They're from this site:
http://www.hondahookup.com/manuals/

They are actually for the '98-'01 Integra, which has the B18C engine.
You've probably got a B16A3, but the procedures and settings can't be a lot
different.

Have a poke around and see if the hardware looks the same. If so, perform
the idle speed adjustment as specified and see if the problem goes away.

If the base idle is far off enough, the car won't even idle at all until
fully warm. And you'll probably get the MIL lighting up. Don't worry about
that. It will go off again once the IAC and EVAP are reconnected.

I find it best the disconnect the IAC and EVAP when the engine is cold. It
gets pretty hot.


Good luck.

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Re: 2000 Civic SiR low, rough idle
 

"JEHU" <dcoxNOSPAM@hfx.eastlink.ca> wrote in
news:6pzQd.52676$gA4.39752@edtnps89:

> Man I should have looked closer! Your right TeGGer, so that means
> that when it idles low it drops down to 500rpm or a little above that.


If that's the case, you may simply need an idle speed adjustment.

Make sure that throttle body has no soot or gunk, then see these files:
www.tegger.com/hondafaq/misc/11-111.pdf
and
www.tegger.com/hondafaq/misc/11-112.pdf

They're from this site:
http://www.hondahookup.com/manuals/

They are actually for the '98-'01 Integra, which has the B18C engine.
You've probably got a B16A3, but the procedures and settings can't be a lot
different.

Have a poke around and see if the hardware looks the same. If so, perform
the idle speed adjustment as specified and see if the problem goes away.

If the base idle is far off enough, the car won't even idle at all until
fully warm. And you'll probably get the MIL lighting up. Don't worry about
that. It will go off again once the IAC and EVAP are reconnected.

I find it best the disconnect the IAC and EVAP when the engine is cold. It
gets pretty hot.


Good luck.

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Re: 2000 Civic SiR low, rough idle
 

"JEHU" <dcoxNOSPAM@hfx.eastlink.ca> wrote in
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2 Kings 9:20?

:^)

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Re: 2000 Civic SiR low, rough idle
 

"JEHU" <dcoxNOSPAM@hfx.eastlink.ca> wrote in
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2 Kings 9:20?

:^)

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Re: 2000 Civic SiR low, rough idle
 

Would I still need an idle speed adjustment if it didn't happen all the
time?

I checked for Vac leaks... I didn't notice any cracks.. but I am not really
sure how to really check for a vac leak.

I probably should have mentioned this before but I have taken it into a
honda dealership and on 3 occations they have told me 1st time. it is your
intake system causing it
2nd time. we couldn't find anything
3rd time. we adjusted your base idle (basically found nothing again)

thanks again!

"TeGGer®" <tegger@istop.c0m> wrote in message
news:Xns95FF65F3D3A4Dteggeratistop@207.14.113.17.. .
> "JEHU" <dcoxNOSPAM@hfx.eastlink.ca> wrote in
> news:6pzQd.52676$gA4.39752@edtnps89:
>
>> Man I should have looked closer! Your right TeGGer, so that means
>> that when it idles low it drops down to 500rpm or a little above that.
>
>
> If that's the case, you may simply need an idle speed adjustment.
>
> Make sure that throttle body has no soot or gunk, then see these files:
> www.tegger.com/hondafaq/misc/11-111.pdf
> and
> www.tegger.com/hondafaq/misc/11-112.pdf
>
> They're from this site:
> http://www.hondahookup.com/manuals/
>
> They are actually for the '98-'01 Integra, which has the B18C engine.
> You've probably got a B16A3, but the procedures and settings can't be a
> lot
> different.
>
> Have a poke around and see if the hardware looks the same. If so, perform
> the idle speed adjustment as specified and see if the problem goes away.
>
> If the base idle is far off enough, the car won't even idle at all until
> fully warm. And you'll probably get the MIL lighting up. Don't worry about
> that. It will go off again once the IAC and EVAP are reconnected.
>
> I find it best the disconnect the IAC and EVAP when the engine is cold. It
> gets pretty hot.
>
>
> Good luck.
>
> --
> TeGGeR®
>
> The Unofficial Honda/Acura FAQ
> www.tegger.com/hondafaq/

Re: 2000 Civic SiR low, rough idle
 

Would I still need an idle speed adjustment if it didn't happen all the
time?

I checked for Vac leaks... I didn't notice any cracks.. but I am not really
sure how to really check for a vac leak.

I probably should have mentioned this before but I have taken it into a
honda dealership and on 3 occations they have told me 1st time. it is your
intake system causing it
2nd time. we couldn't find anything
3rd time. we adjusted your base idle (basically found nothing again)

thanks again!

"TeGGer®" <tegger@istop.c0m> wrote in message
news:Xns95FF65F3D3A4Dteggeratistop@207.14.113.17.. .
> "JEHU" <dcoxNOSPAM@hfx.eastlink.ca> wrote in
> news:6pzQd.52676$gA4.39752@edtnps89:
>
>> Man I should have looked closer! Your right TeGGer, so that means
>> that when it idles low it drops down to 500rpm or a little above that.
>
>
> If that's the case, you may simply need an idle speed adjustment.
>
> Make sure that throttle body has no soot or gunk, then see these files:
> www.tegger.com/hondafaq/misc/11-111.pdf
> and
> www.tegger.com/hondafaq/misc/11-112.pdf
>
> They're from this site:
> http://www.hondahookup.com/manuals/
>
> They are actually for the '98-'01 Integra, which has the B18C engine.
> You've probably got a B16A3, but the procedures and settings can't be a
> lot
> different.
>
> Have a poke around and see if the hardware looks the same. If so, perform
> the idle speed adjustment as specified and see if the problem goes away.
>
> If the base idle is far off enough, the car won't even idle at all until
> fully warm. And you'll probably get the MIL lighting up. Don't worry about
> that. It will go off again once the IAC and EVAP are reconnected.
>
> I find it best the disconnect the IAC and EVAP when the engine is cold. It
> gets pretty hot.
>
>
> Good luck.
>
> --
> TeGGeR®
>
> The Unofficial Honda/Acura FAQ
> www.tegger.com/hondafaq/

Re: 2000 Civic SiR low, rough idle
 

On 2005-02-16 dcoxNOSPAM@hfx.eastlink.ca said:
>Newsgroups: alt.autos.honda
[snip]
>I checked for Vac leaks... I didn't notice any cracks.. but I am
>not really sure how to really check for a vac leak.
I hunt them with a stethoscope with a slender tube for a probe.


Tom Willmon
near Mountainair, (mid) New Mexico, USA

Net-Tamer V 1.12.0 - Registered

Re: 2000 Civic SiR low, rough idle
 

On 2005-02-16 dcoxNOSPAM@hfx.eastlink.ca said:
>Newsgroups: alt.autos.honda
[snip]
>I checked for Vac leaks... I didn't notice any cracks.. but I am
>not really sure how to really check for a vac leak.
I hunt them with a stethoscope with a slender tube for a probe.


Tom Willmon
near Mountainair, (mid) New Mexico, USA

Net-Tamer V 1.12.0 - Registered

Re: 2000 Civic SiR low, rough idle
 

twillmon@cybermesa.net wrote in news:cv0msv$mf9$1@reader2.nmix.net:

>
>
> On 2005-02-16 dcoxNOSPAM@hfx.eastlink.ca said:
> >Newsgroups: alt.autos.honda
> [snip]
> >I checked for Vac leaks... I didn't notice any cracks.. but I am
> >not really sure how to really check for a vac leak.
>
>
>
> I hunt them with a stethoscope with a slender tube for a probe.
>


You can also use a propane torch (unlit). Hold it near the suspected leak
then turn the gas on. Idle will change.


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Re: 2000 Civic SiR low, rough idle
 

twillmon@cybermesa.net wrote in news:cv0msv$mf9$1@reader2.nmix.net:

>
>
> On 2005-02-16 dcoxNOSPAM@hfx.eastlink.ca said:
> >Newsgroups: alt.autos.honda
> [snip]
> >I checked for Vac leaks... I didn't notice any cracks.. but I am
> >not really sure how to really check for a vac leak.
>
>
>
> I hunt them with a stethoscope with a slender tube for a probe.
>


You can also use a propane torch (unlit). Hold it near the suspected leak
then turn the gas on. Idle will change.


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Re: 2000 Civic SiR low, rough idle
 

Idle adjustment is set to it's highest of the range it can be in spec.

I did take it back today to the dealership because it was acting up often
today, the tech came out with me and I showed him what it was doing and he
says that it could be the IAC valve, but this is not the normal symptom of
IAC valve trouble. He says that it would normally stick open or closed
causing a high or low idle respectively.

They have the IAC valve on order and should be in the next few days. :)
I'll post after they replace it.


"TeGGer®" <tegger@istop.c0m> wrote in message
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> twillmon@cybermesa.net wrote in news:cv0msv$mf9$1@reader2.nmix.net:
>
>>
>>
>> On 2005-02-16 dcoxNOSPAM@hfx.eastlink.ca said:
>> >Newsgroups: alt.autos.honda
>> [snip]
>> >I checked for Vac leaks... I didn't notice any cracks.. but I am
>> >not really sure how to really check for a vac leak.
>>
>>
>>
>> I hunt them with a stethoscope with a slender tube for a probe.
>>
>
>
> You can also use a propane torch (unlit). Hold it near the suspected leak
> then turn the gas on. Idle will change.
>
>
> --
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>
> The Unofficial Honda/Acura FAQ
> www.tegger.com/hondafaq/

Re: 2000 Civic SiR low, rough idle
 

Idle adjustment is set to it's highest of the range it can be in spec.

I did take it back today to the dealership because it was acting up often
today, the tech came out with me and I showed him what it was doing and he
says that it could be the IAC valve, but this is not the normal symptom of
IAC valve trouble. He says that it would normally stick open or closed
causing a high or low idle respectively.

They have the IAC valve on order and should be in the next few days. :)
I'll post after they replace it.


"TeGGer®" <tegger@istop.c0m> wrote in message
news:Xns95FFCC14AB5BFteggeratistop@207.14.113.17.. .
> twillmon@cybermesa.net wrote in news:cv0msv$mf9$1@reader2.nmix.net:
>
>>
>>
>> On 2005-02-16 dcoxNOSPAM@hfx.eastlink.ca said:
>> >Newsgroups: alt.autos.honda
>> [snip]
>> >I checked for Vac leaks... I didn't notice any cracks.. but I am
>> >not really sure how to really check for a vac leak.
>>
>>
>>
>> I hunt them with a stethoscope with a slender tube for a probe.
>>
>
>
> You can also use a propane torch (unlit). Hold it near the suspected leak
> then turn the gas on. Idle will change.
>
>
> --
> TeGGeR®
>
> The Unofficial Honda/Acura FAQ
> www.tegger.com/hondafaq/

Re: 2000 Civic SiR low, rough idle
 

The Honda dealership installed a new IAC valve today. Haven't fully
tested it yet but... it did act up once today after I got it back. Idle
speed drops down after the gas has been touched. :0(


"JEHU" <dcoxNOSPAM@hfx.eastlink.ca> wrote in message
news:vCtSd.7892$9a3.7849@edtnps91...
> Idle adjustment is set to it's highest of the range it can be in spec.
>
> I did take it back today to the dealership because it was acting up often
> today, the tech came out with me and I showed him what it was doing and he
> says that it could be the IAC valve, but this is not the normal symptom of
> IAC valve trouble. He says that it would normally stick open or closed
> causing a high or low idle respectively.
>
> They have the IAC valve on order and should be in the next few days. :)
> I'll post after they replace it.
>
>
> "TeGGer®" <tegger@istop.c0m> wrote in message
> news:Xns95FFCC14AB5BFteggeratistop@207.14.113.17.. .
>> twillmon@cybermesa.net wrote in news:cv0msv$mf9$1@reader2.nmix.net:
>>
>>>
>>>
>>> On 2005-02-16 dcoxNOSPAM@hfx.eastlink.ca said:
>>> >Newsgroups: alt.autos.honda
>>> [snip]
>>> >I checked for Vac leaks... I didn't notice any cracks.. but I am
>>> >not really sure how to really check for a vac leak.
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> I hunt them with a stethoscope with a slender tube for a probe.
>>>
>>
>>
>> You can also use a propane torch (unlit). Hold it near the suspected leak
>> then turn the gas on. Idle will change.
>>
>>
>> --
>> TeGGeR®
>>
>> The Unofficial Honda/Acura FAQ
>> www.tegger.com/hondafaq/
>
>

Re: 2000 Civic SiR low, rough idle
 

The Honda dealership installed a new IAC valve today. Haven't fully
tested it yet but... it did act up once today after I got it back. Idle
speed drops down after the gas has been touched. :0(


"JEHU" <dcoxNOSPAM@hfx.eastlink.ca> wrote in message
news:vCtSd.7892$9a3.7849@edtnps91...
> Idle adjustment is set to it's highest of the range it can be in spec.
>
> I did take it back today to the dealership because it was acting up often
> today, the tech came out with me and I showed him what it was doing and he
> says that it could be the IAC valve, but this is not the normal symptom of
> IAC valve trouble. He says that it would normally stick open or closed
> causing a high or low idle respectively.
>
> They have the IAC valve on order and should be in the next few days. :)
> I'll post after they replace it.
>
>
> "TeGGer®" <tegger@istop.c0m> wrote in message
> news:Xns95FFCC14AB5BFteggeratistop@207.14.113.17.. .
>> twillmon@cybermesa.net wrote in news:cv0msv$mf9$1@reader2.nmix.net:
>>
>>>
>>>
>>> On 2005-02-16 dcoxNOSPAM@hfx.eastlink.ca said:
>>> >Newsgroups: alt.autos.honda
>>> [snip]
>>> >I checked for Vac leaks... I didn't notice any cracks.. but I am
>>> >not really sure how to really check for a vac leak.
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> I hunt them with a stethoscope with a slender tube for a probe.
>>>
>>
>>
>> You can also use a propane torch (unlit). Hold it near the suspected leak
>> then turn the gas on. Idle will change.
>>
>>
>> --
>> TeGGeR®
>>
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>> www.tegger.com/hondafaq/
>
>