Hand

Anyone else out there have a problem with the side view mirror switch
on their 1999-2004 Honda Odyssey? The side view mirror switch on my
wife's 2002 Ody would not move either mirror in the UP direction (left
side or right side mirror) but it would move them left, right, or
down.

When the van was at the Honda dealer this past week getting the
transmission recall service, I had them troubleshoot the problem and
it turned out that the switch was broken (faulty, defective). The
Honda dealer wanted $75 to replace it (parts+labor)!!! I had to laugh,
seemed like way too much money to replace a simple switch. I was
fortunate though that they didn't charge me for troubleshooting the
problem (not that it was too hard to figure out) and I did end up
buying the switch from them (~$23 including tax) and had it replaced
before I left the dealer's lot! It took less than two minutes to
replace it! $75 bucks, what a joke.

Anyhow, the bag that the switch came in said "Japan" or "Made in
Japan" on it but I noticed that the switch I replaced had a "Mexico"
label on it. I was just wondering if there may be a quality issue
involved here? So, I just wanted to know if anyone else had the same
problem. Unfortunately, the van was out of warranty (38,000 miles) so
I had to pick up the bill. I'm still planning on writing Honda to
"complain". Who knows, they may pick up the tab.

Thanks for the feedback.

Howard

No, there's not been a problem with that switch. It unfortunately failed and
didn't make it to its life expectancy. But I suppose you expected it to last
forever. Yeah, 38,000 miles or 2-3 years is a little short but s--t happens.
Stop whining over trivial items. Save it for a serious matter, when you
really may need Honda's help. I'll bet you never visit your dealer for your
maintenance but your there bright and early every time they have something
free for you, like any warranty work or product update. And there you go
demanding free parts, free labor, demanding something you think you deserve
but is not spelled out in any contract or warranty. You yell and scream you
got ripped off because they wanted a few extra dollars for their expertise
and knowledge and/or tools that made it able for them to know immediately
what was wrong with your switch. Maybe they get $70 or $80 an hour labor,
but I'm sure you would have felt a whole bunch better to bring it to your
local greasemonkey and pay him "only" $45 an hour for the two hours he would
spend trying to figure out what the problem was, if he could figure it out
the first time.
Get a life!
"Hand" <hand@engineer.com> wrote in message
news:63965b3.0412021659.1cad2690@posting.google.co m...
> Anyone else out there have a problem with the side view mirror switch
> on their 1999-2004 Honda Odyssey? The side view mirror switch on my
> wife's 2002 Ody would not move either mirror in the UP direction (left
> side or right side mirror) but it would move them left, right, or
> down.
>
> When the van was at the Honda dealer this past week getting the
> transmission recall service, I had them troubleshoot the problem and
> it turned out that the switch was broken (faulty, defective). The
> Honda dealer wanted $75 to replace it (parts+labor)!!! I had to laugh,
> seemed like way too much money to replace a simple switch. I was
> fortunate though that they didn't charge me for troubleshooting the
> problem (not that it was too hard to figure out) and I did end up
> buying the switch from them (~$23 including tax) and had it replaced
> before I left the dealer's lot! It took less than two minutes to
> replace it! $75 bucks, what a joke.
>
> Anyhow, the bag that the switch came in said "Japan" or "Made in
> Japan" on it but I noticed that the switch I replaced had a "Mexico"
> label on it. I was just wondering if there may be a quality issue
> involved here? So, I just wanted to know if anyone else had the same
> problem. Unfortunately, the van was out of warranty (38,000 miles) so
> I had to pick up the bill. I'm still planning on writing Honda to
> "complain". Who knows, they may pick up the tab.
>
> Thanks for the feedback.

Howard

No, there's not been a problem with that switch. It unfortunately failed and
didn't make it to its life expectancy. But I suppose you expected it to last
forever. Yeah, 38,000 miles or 2-3 years is a little short but s--t happens.
Stop whining over trivial items. Save it for a serious matter, when you
really may need Honda's help. I'll bet you never visit your dealer for your
maintenance but your there bright and early every time they have something
free for you, like any warranty work or product update. And there you go
demanding free parts, free labor, demanding something you think you deserve
but is not spelled out in any contract or warranty. You yell and scream you
got ripped off because they wanted a few extra dollars for their expertise
and knowledge and/or tools that made it able for them to know immediately
what was wrong with your switch. Maybe they get $70 or $80 an hour labor,
but I'm sure you would have felt a whole bunch better to bring it to your
local greasemonkey and pay him "only" $45 an hour for the two hours he would
spend trying to figure out what the problem was, if he could figure it out
the first time.
Get a life!
"Hand" <hand@engineer.com> wrote in message
news:63965b3.0412021659.1cad2690@posting.google.co m...
> Anyone else out there have a problem with the side view mirror switch
> on their 1999-2004 Honda Odyssey? The side view mirror switch on my
> wife's 2002 Ody would not move either mirror in the UP direction (left
> side or right side mirror) but it would move them left, right, or
> down.
>
> When the van was at the Honda dealer this past week getting the
> transmission recall service, I had them troubleshoot the problem and
> it turned out that the switch was broken (faulty, defective). The
> Honda dealer wanted $75 to replace it (parts+labor)!!! I had to laugh,
> seemed like way too much money to replace a simple switch. I was
> fortunate though that they didn't charge me for troubleshooting the
> problem (not that it was too hard to figure out) and I did end up
> buying the switch from them (~$23 including tax) and had it replaced
> before I left the dealer's lot! It took less than two minutes to
> replace it! $75 bucks, what a joke.
>
> Anyhow, the bag that the switch came in said "Japan" or "Made in
> Japan" on it but I noticed that the switch I replaced had a "Mexico"
> label on it. I was just wondering if there may be a quality issue
> involved here? So, I just wanted to know if anyone else had the same
> problem. Unfortunately, the van was out of warranty (38,000 miles) so
> I had to pick up the bill. I'm still planning on writing Honda to
> "complain". Who knows, they may pick up the tab.
>
> Thanks for the feedback.

Abeness

Howard wrote:
> Get a life!

I sure am tired of seeing schmucks around here like you who don't have
anything better to do than to type 217 words simply to insult someone.
Perhaps it's you who need to get a life? Who do you think you are,
insulting people like this? Please, go away, and don't waste my time.

Abeness

Howard wrote:
> Get a life!

I sure am tired of seeing schmucks around here like you who don't have
anything better to do than to type 217 words simply to insult someone.
Perhaps it's you who need to get a life? Who do you think you are,
insulting people like this? Please, go away, and don't waste my time.

Elmo P. Shagnasty

In article <wridnabRDaiFbjLcRVn-jw@rcn.net>, Abeness <news@nada.x>
wrote:

> Howard wrote:
> > Get a life!
>
> I sure am tired of seeing schmucks around here like you who don't have
> anything better to do than to type 217 words simply to insult someone.
> Perhaps it's you who need to get a life? Who do you think you are,
> insulting people like this? Please, go away, and don't waste my time.

Obviously, you didn't like what Howard had to say--probably because he
hit too close to home for you, eh?

Howard was right:

> No, there's not been a problem with that switch. It unfortunately failed and
> didn't make it to its life expectancy. But I suppose you expected it to last
> forever. Yeah, 38,000 miles or 2-3 years is a little short but s--t happens.
> Stop whining over trivial items. Save it for a serious matter, when you
> really may need Honda's help. I'll bet you never visit your dealer for your
> maintenance but your there bright and early every time they have something
> free for you, like any warranty work or product update. And there you go
> demanding free parts, free labor, demanding something you think you deserve
> but is not spelled out in any contract or warranty. You yell and scream you
> got ripped off because they wanted a few extra dollars for their expertise
> and knowledge and/or tools that made it able for them to know immediately
> what was wrong with your switch. Maybe they get $70 or $80 an hour labor,
> but I'm sure you would have felt a whole bunch better to bring it to your
> local greasemonkey and pay him "only" $45 an hour for the two hours he would
> spend trying to figure out what the problem was, if he could figure it out
> the first time.

Elmo P. Shagnasty

In article <wridnabRDaiFbjLcRVn-jw@rcn.net>, Abeness <news@nada.x>
wrote:

> Howard wrote:
> > Get a life!
>
> I sure am tired of seeing schmucks around here like you who don't have
> anything better to do than to type 217 words simply to insult someone.
> Perhaps it's you who need to get a life? Who do you think you are,
> insulting people like this? Please, go away, and don't waste my time.

Obviously, you didn't like what Howard had to say--probably because he
hit too close to home for you, eh?

Howard was right:

> No, there's not been a problem with that switch. It unfortunately failed and
> didn't make it to its life expectancy. But I suppose you expected it to last
> forever. Yeah, 38,000 miles or 2-3 years is a little short but s--t happens.
> Stop whining over trivial items. Save it for a serious matter, when you
> really may need Honda's help. I'll bet you never visit your dealer for your
> maintenance but your there bright and early every time they have something
> free for you, like any warranty work or product update. And there you go
> demanding free parts, free labor, demanding something you think you deserve
> but is not spelled out in any contract or warranty. You yell and scream you
> got ripped off because they wanted a few extra dollars for their expertise
> and knowledge and/or tools that made it able for them to know immediately
> what was wrong with your switch. Maybe they get $70 or $80 an hour labor,
> but I'm sure you would have felt a whole bunch better to bring it to your
> local greasemonkey and pay him "only" $45 an hour for the two hours he would
> spend trying to figure out what the problem was, if he could figure it out
> the first time.

Howard

I guess I do need a life. Perhaps you can direct me to the School of Word
Counting so I can be a graduate like you and occupy my time counting and
curbing the right of free speech all across the land.
Get lost!
"Abeness" <news@nada.x> wrote in message
news:wridnabRDaiFbjLcRVn-jw@rcn.net...
> Howard wrote:
> > Get a life!
>
> I sure am tired of seeing schmucks around here like you who don't have
> anything better to do than to type 217 words simply to insult someone.
> Perhaps it's you who need to get a life? Who do you think you are,
> insulting people like this? Please, go away, and don't waste my time.

Howard

I guess I do need a life. Perhaps you can direct me to the School of Word
Counting so I can be a graduate like you and occupy my time counting and
curbing the right of free speech all across the land.
Get lost!
"Abeness" <news@nada.x> wrote in message
news:wridnabRDaiFbjLcRVn-jw@rcn.net...
> Howard wrote:
> > Get a life!
>
> I sure am tired of seeing schmucks around here like you who don't have
> anything better to do than to type 217 words simply to insult someone.
> Perhaps it's you who need to get a life? Who do you think you are,
> insulting people like this? Please, go away, and don't waste my time.

Dave Kelsen

On 12/3/2004 5:23 AM Elmo P. Shagnasty spake these words of knowledge:

> In article <wridnabRDaiFbjLcRVn-jw@rcn.net>, Abeness <news@nada.x>
> wrote:
>
>> Howard wrote:
>> > Get a life!
>>
>> I sure am tired of seeing schmucks around here like you who don't have
>> anything better to do than to type 217 words simply to insult someone.
>> Perhaps it's you who need to get a life? Who do you think you are,
>> insulting people like this? Please, go away, and don't waste my time.
>
> Obviously, you didn't like what Howard had to say--probably because he
> hit too close to home for you, eh?
>
> Howard was right:
>
>> No, there's not been a problem with that switch. It unfortunately failed and
>> didn't make it to its life expectancy. But I suppose you expected it to last
>> forever. Yeah, 38,000 miles or 2-3 years is a little short but s--t happens.
>> Stop whining over trivial items. Save it for a serious matter, when you
>> really may need Honda's help. I'll bet you never visit your dealer for your
>> maintenance but your there bright and early every time they have something
>> free for you, like any warranty work or product update. And there you go
>> demanding free parts, free labor, demanding something you think you deserve
>> but is not spelled out in any contract or warranty. You yell and scream you
>> got ripped off because they wanted a few extra dollars for their expertise
>> and knowledge and/or tools that made it able for them to know immediately
>> what was wrong with your switch. Maybe they get $70 or $80 an hour labor,
>> but I'm sure you would have felt a whole bunch better to bring it to your
>> local greasemonkey and pay him "only" $45 an hour for the two hours he would
>> spend trying to figure out what the problem was, if he could figure it out
>> the first time.
>

Suck my dick, you supercilious sanctimonious bastard.

Howard was wrong; the OP did not whine, and did not yell and scream
about getting ripped off. He asked a question about the potential
difference in quality between a part made in Mexico and a part made in
Japan.

He also had this to say:

"When the van was at the Honda dealer this past week getting the
transmission recall service, I had them troubleshoot the problem and
it turned out that the switch was broken (faulty, defective). The
Honda dealer wanted $75 to replace it (parts+labor)!!! I had to laugh,
seemed like way too much money to replace a simple switch. I was
fortunate though that they didn't charge me for troubleshooting the
problem (not that it was too hard to figure out) and I did end up
buying the switch from them (~$23 including tax) and had it replaced
before I left the dealer's lot! It took less than two minutes to
replace it! $75 bucks, what a joke."

Clearly he thought that the price was more than it was worth. He made
no disparaging remarks, he pointed out that the dealer didn't charge him
for the diagnosis, and he bought the part from the dealer.

Try actually reading the post.



RFT!!!
Dave Kelsen
--
.... It is flattering some men to endure them.

Dave Kelsen

On 12/3/2004 5:23 AM Elmo P. Shagnasty spake these words of knowledge:

> In article <wridnabRDaiFbjLcRVn-jw@rcn.net>, Abeness <news@nada.x>
> wrote:
>
>> Howard wrote:
>> > Get a life!
>>
>> I sure am tired of seeing schmucks around here like you who don't have
>> anything better to do than to type 217 words simply to insult someone.
>> Perhaps it's you who need to get a life? Who do you think you are,
>> insulting people like this? Please, go away, and don't waste my time.
>
> Obviously, you didn't like what Howard had to say--probably because he
> hit too close to home for you, eh?
>
> Howard was right:
>
>> No, there's not been a problem with that switch. It unfortunately failed and
>> didn't make it to its life expectancy. But I suppose you expected it to last
>> forever. Yeah, 38,000 miles or 2-3 years is a little short but s--t happens.
>> Stop whining over trivial items. Save it for a serious matter, when you
>> really may need Honda's help. I'll bet you never visit your dealer for your
>> maintenance but your there bright and early every time they have something
>> free for you, like any warranty work or product update. And there you go
>> demanding free parts, free labor, demanding something you think you deserve
>> but is not spelled out in any contract or warranty. You yell and scream you
>> got ripped off because they wanted a few extra dollars for their expertise
>> and knowledge and/or tools that made it able for them to know immediately
>> what was wrong with your switch. Maybe they get $70 or $80 an hour labor,
>> but I'm sure you would have felt a whole bunch better to bring it to your
>> local greasemonkey and pay him "only" $45 an hour for the two hours he would
>> spend trying to figure out what the problem was, if he could figure it out
>> the first time.
>

Suck my dick, you supercilious sanctimonious bastard.

Howard was wrong; the OP did not whine, and did not yell and scream
about getting ripped off. He asked a question about the potential
difference in quality between a part made in Mexico and a part made in
Japan.

He also had this to say:

"When the van was at the Honda dealer this past week getting the
transmission recall service, I had them troubleshoot the problem and
it turned out that the switch was broken (faulty, defective). The
Honda dealer wanted $75 to replace it (parts+labor)!!! I had to laugh,
seemed like way too much money to replace a simple switch. I was
fortunate though that they didn't charge me for troubleshooting the
problem (not that it was too hard to figure out) and I did end up
buying the switch from them (~$23 including tax) and had it replaced
before I left the dealer's lot! It took less than two minutes to
replace it! $75 bucks, what a joke."

Clearly he thought that the price was more than it was worth. He made
no disparaging remarks, he pointed out that the dealer didn't charge him
for the diagnosis, and he bought the part from the dealer.

Try actually reading the post.



RFT!!!
Dave Kelsen
--
.... It is flattering some men to endure them.

Abeness

Howard wrote:
> I guess I do need a life. Perhaps you can direct me to the School of Word
> Counting so I can be a graduate like you

LOL! Actually, I just dumped your insults into a text editor that
counted it for me--I just couldn't resist. It's not curbing free speech,
Howard--I'm objecting to your rude tone. But you're right--say whatever
you want. I'll just try not to listen. ;-)

Abeness

Howard wrote:
> I guess I do need a life. Perhaps you can direct me to the School of Word
> Counting so I can be a graduate like you

LOL! Actually, I just dumped your insults into a text editor that
counted it for me--I just couldn't resist. It's not curbing free speech,
Howard--I'm objecting to your rude tone. But you're right--say whatever
you want. I'll just try not to listen. ;-)

Abeness

Elmo P. Shagnasty wrote:
> Obviously, you didn't like what Howard had to say--probably because he
> hit too close to home for you, eh?

Ahh, Elmo...

Abeness

Elmo P. Shagnasty wrote:
> Obviously, you didn't like what Howard had to say--probably because he
> hit too close to home for you, eh?

Ahh, Elmo...