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Re: 2003 Accord EX Coupe - hydraulic cluctch issue?
Thanks Bill,
I have done this - the Honda dealer, where the Accord was fixed twice under warranty, communicated the entire episode to Honda's American HQ (Engineering Dept). They said this information is now in a national database to red flag similar repairs/issues that may be caused by this flaw. No word on how it will be rectified in the 2004 model. Just glad to have the ride back. <EOM> "Bill B. Johnson" <billbjohnson555@nospamhotmail.com> wrote in message news:billbjohnson555-2210031239470001@pm5-broad-70.snlo.dialup.fix.net... > In article <y7hlb.236$wc3.9@newsread3.news.pas.earthlink.net> , "News > Scout" <scoutnews@earthlink.net> wrote: > > > Us an update to this NG.... > > > > The root cause of the issue was this: a metal piece in very close proximity > > to the clutch mechanism had rubbed a small metal hose that connects the > > clutch slave cylinder to the clutch master cylinder to the point that this > > small hose had developed a "pinhole" leak analogous to a copper water pipe. > > > > Hence, when the slave clutch cylinder was originally replaced, the dealer > > thought that was the problem, seeing as it was covered with hydraulic fluid. > > However, they did not notice or find through testing that the slave cylinder > > was fine, but the small metal pipe that connects the slave and master clutch > > cylinders had a tiny leak. So 30 minutes after I drove the "fixed" Accord > > off the lot and applied the clutch a few times, all the hydraulic fluid > > again completely leaked out of the system and clutch pressure went away with > > no functioning hydraulic system. > > > > The repair report said something about the proximity of this pipe in > > relation to another unrelated engine component, after several thousand > > miles, could cause friction activity leading to a leak. As Oklahoma has > > crappy roads, this jostling of the car over the last six months may have > > contributed to an early failure. > > > > So, the end result - Honda fabricated a new design (or they had a local shop > > do it) for this small pipe and made one for this Accord that ensures there > > is no contact with it and any other piece of the clutch or engine assembly, > > hence solving this issue. > > > > I am quite perplexed that computer-assisted modeling and accelerated life > > testing, in the thousands of variables that were probably used, did not > > catch this design flaw. Being Six Sigma and ISO trained, the end analysis > > tells me that there was definitely an error made in this area of the vehicle > > insofar as design. > > > > Oh well, it's purring again and all seems to be well. It's so nice to get > > rid of that Ford Focus and relax in my car's environment. I'll give Honda > > one thing - their road and engine noise suppression is excellent. The sound > > tolerances remind me of a Lexus. > > > > Thanks for listening. > > > > Ciao. > > > > > > "Bill B. Johnson" <billbjohnson555@nospamhotmail.com> wrote in message > > news:billbjohnson555-2110031026490001@pm3-broad-201.snlo.dialup.fix.net... > > > In article <x7Ukb.4431$S52.803@newsread4.news.pas.earthlink.n et>, "News > > > Scout" <scoutnews@earthlink.net> wrote: > > > > > > > Very true - it is still very much in warranty (only 7,000 miles). The > > > > towing and rental cars have all been courtesy of Honda (no money spent > > at > > > > all from me), so it is not that much of a nuisance at this time, as this > > car > > > > is a lease anyway (I never buy cars). However, if it is a design defect > > > > (and now I have seen both leaking mechanisms at the dealer's service > > > > center), I would insist on a new car with an automatic transmission. > > The > > > > non-confidence of being on a road trip and this happening again is not > > > > something I want. A mechanical problem that happens once is one thing. > > > > Twice makes me think real hard about alternatives. > > > > > > > > I listened to the dealer talking to Honda Engineering in California and > > this > > > > may be a larger issue than just my car. Apparently, the automatic > > outsells > > > > the standard by 100-1, so there are not tens of thousands of 5-speed > > 2.4L > > > > 2003 Accord Coupes on the road - yet. If this is a bigger problem than > > just > > > > the fluke of it happening to me twice, they have a big potential problem > > on > > > > their hands. I doubt this would escalate into a recall, but who the hell > > > > knows. > > > > > > You may be right--this could be a bigger issue than just the problem with > > > your car. Many car companies try to keep problems that effect lots of cars > > > a secret from the public. They usually just fix the problems under the > > > warranty program as the owners bring them in for service. They will notify > > > the Honda mechanics via of special notices so they can fix the problems on > > > those effected vehicles. Rarely ever do car companies annouce a major > > > recall since a major recall will in most cases appear as a major news > > > story and no car company likes it to happen. > > I'm glad that your problem has now been fixed to your satisfaction. You > might call the mechanic and ask him to advise Honda Inc. of the problem so > they can repair the problem in the same way related to many other vehicles > that have the same problem. They can also correct the design flaw on next > year's model of the same vehicle. |
Re: 2003 Accord EX Coupe - hydraulic cluctch issue?
In article <wtFlb.1373$I04.68@newsread4.news.pas.earthlink.ne t>, "News
Scout" <scoutnews@earthlink.net> wrote: > Thanks Bill, > > I have done this - the Honda dealer, where the Accord was fixed twice under > warranty, communicated the entire episode to Honda's American HQ > (Engineering Dept). They said this information is now in a national > database to red flag similar repairs/issues that may be caused by this flaw. > No word on how it will be rectified in the 2004 model. > > Just glad to have the ride back. > > > <EOM> > > > "Bill B. Johnson" <billbjohnson555@nospamhotmail.com> wrote in message > news:billbjohnson555-2210031239470001@pm5-broad-70.snlo.dialup.fix.net... > > In article <y7hlb.236$wc3.9@newsread3.news.pas.earthlink.net> , "News > > Scout" <scoutnews@earthlink.net> wrote: > > > > > Us an update to this NG.... > > > > > > The root cause of the issue was this: a metal piece in very close > proximity > > > to the clutch mechanism had rubbed a small metal hose that connects the > > > clutch slave cylinder to the clutch master cylinder to the point that > this > > > small hose had developed a "pinhole" leak analogous to a copper water > pipe. > > > > > > Hence, when the slave clutch cylinder was originally replaced, the > dealer > > > thought that was the problem, seeing as it was covered with hydraulic > fluid. > > > However, they did not notice or find through testing that the slave > cylinder > > > was fine, but the small metal pipe that connects the slave and master > clutch > > > cylinders had a tiny leak. So 30 minutes after I drove the "fixed" > Accord > > > off the lot and applied the clutch a few times, all the hydraulic fluid > > > again completely leaked out of the system and clutch pressure went away > with > > > no functioning hydraulic system. > > > > > > The repair report said something about the proximity of this pipe in > > > relation to another unrelated engine component, after several thousand > > > miles, could cause friction activity leading to a leak. As Oklahoma has > > > crappy roads, this jostling of the car over the last six months may have > > > contributed to an early failure. > > > > > > So, the end result - Honda fabricated a new design (or they had a local > shop > > > do it) for this small pipe and made one for this Accord that ensures > there > > > is no contact with it and any other piece of the clutch or engine > assembly, > > > hence solving this issue. > > > > > > I am quite perplexed that computer-assisted modeling and accelerated > life > > > testing, in the thousands of variables that were probably used, did not > > > catch this design flaw. Being Six Sigma and ISO trained, the end > analysis > > > tells me that there was definitely an error made in this area of the > vehicle > > > insofar as design. > > > > > > Oh well, it's purring again and all seems to be well. It's so nice to > get > > > rid of that Ford Focus and relax in my car's environment. I'll give > Honda > > > one thing - their road and engine noise suppression is excellent. The > sound > > > tolerances remind me of a Lexus. > > > > > > Thanks for listening. > > > > > > Ciao. > > > > > > > > > "Bill B. Johnson" <billbjohnson555@nospamhotmail.com> wrote in message > > > > news:billbjohnson555-2110031026490001@pm3-broad-201.snlo.dialup.fix.net... > > > > In article <x7Ukb.4431$S52.803@newsread4.news.pas.earthlink.n et>, > "News > > > > Scout" <scoutnews@earthlink.net> wrote: > > > > > > > > > Very true - it is still very much in warranty (only 7,000 miles). > The > > > > > towing and rental cars have all been courtesy of Honda (no money > spent > > > at > > > > > all from me), so it is not that much of a nuisance at this time, as > this > > > car > > > > > is a lease anyway (I never buy cars). However, if it is a design > defect > > > > > (and now I have seen both leaking mechanisms at the dealer's service > > > > > center), I would insist on a new car with an automatic transmission. > > > The > > > > > non-confidence of being on a road trip and this happening again is > not > > > > > something I want. A mechanical problem that happens once is one > thing. > > > > > Twice makes me think real hard about alternatives. > > > > > > > > > > I listened to the dealer talking to Honda Engineering in California > and > > > this > > > > > may be a larger issue than just my car. Apparently, the automatic > > > outsells > > > > > the standard by 100-1, so there are not tens of thousands of 5-speed > > > 2.4L > > > > > 2003 Accord Coupes on the road - yet. If this is a bigger problem > than > > > just > > > > > the fluke of it happening to me twice, they have a big potential > problem > > > on > > > > > their hands. I doubt this would escalate into a recall, but who the > hell > > > > > knows. > > > > > > > > You may be right--this could be a bigger issue than just the problem > with > > > > your car. Many car companies try to keep problems that effect lots of > cars > > > > a secret from the public. They usually just fix the problems under the > > > > warranty program as the owners bring them in for service. They will > notify > > > > the Honda mechanics via of special notices so they can fix the > problems on > > > > those effected vehicles. Rarely ever do car companies annouce a major > > > > recall since a major recall will in most cases appear as a major news > > > > story and no car company likes it to happen. > > > > I'm glad that your problem has now been fixed to your satisfaction. You > > might call the mechanic and ask him to advise Honda Inc. of the problem so > > they can repair the problem in the same way related to many other vehicles > > that have the same problem. They can also correct the design flaw on next > > year's model of the same vehicle. Great Work--as a result of your actions and the actions of the service department of the Honda dealership that you visited--many owners of Honda cars like the one you own will be repaired. It's obvious that this design flaw will be fixed on next year's model. Thanks |
Re: 2003 Accord EX Coupe - hydraulic cluctch issue?
In article <wtFlb.1373$I04.68@newsread4.news.pas.earthlink.ne t>, "News
Scout" <scoutnews@earthlink.net> wrote: > Thanks Bill, > > I have done this - the Honda dealer, where the Accord was fixed twice under > warranty, communicated the entire episode to Honda's American HQ > (Engineering Dept). They said this information is now in a national > database to red flag similar repairs/issues that may be caused by this flaw. > No word on how it will be rectified in the 2004 model. > > Just glad to have the ride back. > > > <EOM> > > > "Bill B. Johnson" <billbjohnson555@nospamhotmail.com> wrote in message > news:billbjohnson555-2210031239470001@pm5-broad-70.snlo.dialup.fix.net... > > In article <y7hlb.236$wc3.9@newsread3.news.pas.earthlink.net> , "News > > Scout" <scoutnews@earthlink.net> wrote: > > > > > Us an update to this NG.... > > > > > > The root cause of the issue was this: a metal piece in very close > proximity > > > to the clutch mechanism had rubbed a small metal hose that connects the > > > clutch slave cylinder to the clutch master cylinder to the point that > this > > > small hose had developed a "pinhole" leak analogous to a copper water > pipe. > > > > > > Hence, when the slave clutch cylinder was originally replaced, the > dealer > > > thought that was the problem, seeing as it was covered with hydraulic > fluid. > > > However, they did not notice or find through testing that the slave > cylinder > > > was fine, but the small metal pipe that connects the slave and master > clutch > > > cylinders had a tiny leak. So 30 minutes after I drove the "fixed" > Accord > > > off the lot and applied the clutch a few times, all the hydraulic fluid > > > again completely leaked out of the system and clutch pressure went away > with > > > no functioning hydraulic system. > > > > > > The repair report said something about the proximity of this pipe in > > > relation to another unrelated engine component, after several thousand > > > miles, could cause friction activity leading to a leak. As Oklahoma has > > > crappy roads, this jostling of the car over the last six months may have > > > contributed to an early failure. > > > > > > So, the end result - Honda fabricated a new design (or they had a local > shop > > > do it) for this small pipe and made one for this Accord that ensures > there > > > is no contact with it and any other piece of the clutch or engine > assembly, > > > hence solving this issue. > > > > > > I am quite perplexed that computer-assisted modeling and accelerated > life > > > testing, in the thousands of variables that were probably used, did not > > > catch this design flaw. Being Six Sigma and ISO trained, the end > analysis > > > tells me that there was definitely an error made in this area of the > vehicle > > > insofar as design. > > > > > > Oh well, it's purring again and all seems to be well. It's so nice to > get > > > rid of that Ford Focus and relax in my car's environment. I'll give > Honda > > > one thing - their road and engine noise suppression is excellent. The > sound > > > tolerances remind me of a Lexus. > > > > > > Thanks for listening. > > > > > > Ciao. > > > > > > > > > "Bill B. Johnson" <billbjohnson555@nospamhotmail.com> wrote in message > > > > news:billbjohnson555-2110031026490001@pm3-broad-201.snlo.dialup.fix.net... > > > > In article <x7Ukb.4431$S52.803@newsread4.news.pas.earthlink.n et>, > "News > > > > Scout" <scoutnews@earthlink.net> wrote: > > > > > > > > > Very true - it is still very much in warranty (only 7,000 miles). > The > > > > > towing and rental cars have all been courtesy of Honda (no money > spent > > > at > > > > > all from me), so it is not that much of a nuisance at this time, as > this > > > car > > > > > is a lease anyway (I never buy cars). However, if it is a design > defect > > > > > (and now I have seen both leaking mechanisms at the dealer's service > > > > > center), I would insist on a new car with an automatic transmission. > > > The > > > > > non-confidence of being on a road trip and this happening again is > not > > > > > something I want. A mechanical problem that happens once is one > thing. > > > > > Twice makes me think real hard about alternatives. > > > > > > > > > > I listened to the dealer talking to Honda Engineering in California > and > > > this > > > > > may be a larger issue than just my car. Apparently, the automatic > > > outsells > > > > > the standard by 100-1, so there are not tens of thousands of 5-speed > > > 2.4L > > > > > 2003 Accord Coupes on the road - yet. If this is a bigger problem > than > > > just > > > > > the fluke of it happening to me twice, they have a big potential > problem > > > on > > > > > their hands. I doubt this would escalate into a recall, but who the > hell > > > > > knows. > > > > > > > > You may be right--this could be a bigger issue than just the problem > with > > > > your car. Many car companies try to keep problems that effect lots of > cars > > > > a secret from the public. They usually just fix the problems under the > > > > warranty program as the owners bring them in for service. They will > notify > > > > the Honda mechanics via of special notices so they can fix the > problems on > > > > those effected vehicles. Rarely ever do car companies annouce a major > > > > recall since a major recall will in most cases appear as a major news > > > > story and no car company likes it to happen. > > > > I'm glad that your problem has now been fixed to your satisfaction. You > > might call the mechanic and ask him to advise Honda Inc. of the problem so > > they can repair the problem in the same way related to many other vehicles > > that have the same problem. They can also correct the design flaw on next > > year's model of the same vehicle. Great Work--as a result of your actions and the actions of the service department of the Honda dealership that you visited--many owners of Honda cars like the one you own will be repaired. It's obvious that this design flaw will be fixed on next year's model. Thanks |
Re: 2003 Accord EX Coupe - hydraulic cluctch issue?
In article <wtFlb.1373$I04.68@newsread4.news.pas.earthlink.ne t>, "News
Scout" <scoutnews@earthlink.net> wrote: > Thanks Bill, > > I have done this - the Honda dealer, where the Accord was fixed twice under > warranty, communicated the entire episode to Honda's American HQ > (Engineering Dept). They said this information is now in a national > database to red flag similar repairs/issues that may be caused by this flaw. > No word on how it will be rectified in the 2004 model. > > Just glad to have the ride back. > > > <EOM> > > > "Bill B. Johnson" <billbjohnson555@nospamhotmail.com> wrote in message > news:billbjohnson555-2210031239470001@pm5-broad-70.snlo.dialup.fix.net... > > In article <y7hlb.236$wc3.9@newsread3.news.pas.earthlink.net> , "News > > Scout" <scoutnews@earthlink.net> wrote: > > > > > Us an update to this NG.... > > > > > > The root cause of the issue was this: a metal piece in very close > proximity > > > to the clutch mechanism had rubbed a small metal hose that connects the > > > clutch slave cylinder to the clutch master cylinder to the point that > this > > > small hose had developed a "pinhole" leak analogous to a copper water > pipe. > > > > > > Hence, when the slave clutch cylinder was originally replaced, the > dealer > > > thought that was the problem, seeing as it was covered with hydraulic > fluid. > > > However, they did not notice or find through testing that the slave > cylinder > > > was fine, but the small metal pipe that connects the slave and master > clutch > > > cylinders had a tiny leak. So 30 minutes after I drove the "fixed" > Accord > > > off the lot and applied the clutch a few times, all the hydraulic fluid > > > again completely leaked out of the system and clutch pressure went away > with > > > no functioning hydraulic system. > > > > > > The repair report said something about the proximity of this pipe in > > > relation to another unrelated engine component, after several thousand > > > miles, could cause friction activity leading to a leak. As Oklahoma has > > > crappy roads, this jostling of the car over the last six months may have > > > contributed to an early failure. > > > > > > So, the end result - Honda fabricated a new design (or they had a local > shop > > > do it) for this small pipe and made one for this Accord that ensures > there > > > is no contact with it and any other piece of the clutch or engine > assembly, > > > hence solving this issue. > > > > > > I am quite perplexed that computer-assisted modeling and accelerated > life > > > testing, in the thousands of variables that were probably used, did not > > > catch this design flaw. Being Six Sigma and ISO trained, the end > analysis > > > tells me that there was definitely an error made in this area of the > vehicle > > > insofar as design. > > > > > > Oh well, it's purring again and all seems to be well. It's so nice to > get > > > rid of that Ford Focus and relax in my car's environment. I'll give > Honda > > > one thing - their road and engine noise suppression is excellent. The > sound > > > tolerances remind me of a Lexus. > > > > > > Thanks for listening. > > > > > > Ciao. > > > > > > > > > "Bill B. Johnson" <billbjohnson555@nospamhotmail.com> wrote in message > > > > news:billbjohnson555-2110031026490001@pm3-broad-201.snlo.dialup.fix.net... > > > > In article <x7Ukb.4431$S52.803@newsread4.news.pas.earthlink.n et>, > "News > > > > Scout" <scoutnews@earthlink.net> wrote: > > > > > > > > > Very true - it is still very much in warranty (only 7,000 miles). > The > > > > > towing and rental cars have all been courtesy of Honda (no money > spent > > > at > > > > > all from me), so it is not that much of a nuisance at this time, as > this > > > car > > > > > is a lease anyway (I never buy cars). However, if it is a design > defect > > > > > (and now I have seen both leaking mechanisms at the dealer's service > > > > > center), I would insist on a new car with an automatic transmission. > > > The > > > > > non-confidence of being on a road trip and this happening again is > not > > > > > something I want. A mechanical problem that happens once is one > thing. > > > > > Twice makes me think real hard about alternatives. > > > > > > > > > > I listened to the dealer talking to Honda Engineering in California > and > > > this > > > > > may be a larger issue than just my car. Apparently, the automatic > > > outsells > > > > > the standard by 100-1, so there are not tens of thousands of 5-speed > > > 2.4L > > > > > 2003 Accord Coupes on the road - yet. If this is a bigger problem > than > > > just > > > > > the fluke of it happening to me twice, they have a big potential > problem > > > on > > > > > their hands. I doubt this would escalate into a recall, but who the > hell > > > > > knows. > > > > > > > > You may be right--this could be a bigger issue than just the problem > with > > > > your car. Many car companies try to keep problems that effect lots of > cars > > > > a secret from the public. They usually just fix the problems under the > > > > warranty program as the owners bring them in for service. They will > notify > > > > the Honda mechanics via of special notices so they can fix the > problems on > > > > those effected vehicles. Rarely ever do car companies annouce a major > > > > recall since a major recall will in most cases appear as a major news > > > > story and no car company likes it to happen. > > > > I'm glad that your problem has now been fixed to your satisfaction. You > > might call the mechanic and ask him to advise Honda Inc. of the problem so > > they can repair the problem in the same way related to many other vehicles > > that have the same problem. They can also correct the design flaw on next > > year's model of the same vehicle. Great Work--as a result of your actions and the actions of the service department of the Honda dealership that you visited--many owners of Honda cars like the one you own will be repaired. It's obvious that this design flaw will be fixed on next year's model. Thanks |
Re: 2003 Accord EX Coupe - hydraulic cluctch issue?
In article <wtFlb.1373$I04.68@newsread4.news.pas.earthlink.ne t>, "News
Scout" <scoutnews@earthlink.net> wrote: > Thanks Bill, > > I have done this - the Honda dealer, where the Accord was fixed twice under > warranty, communicated the entire episode to Honda's American HQ > (Engineering Dept). They said this information is now in a national > database to red flag similar repairs/issues that may be caused by this flaw. > No word on how it will be rectified in the 2004 model. > > Just glad to have the ride back. > > > <EOM> > > > "Bill B. Johnson" <billbjohnson555@nospamhotmail.com> wrote in message > news:billbjohnson555-2210031239470001@pm5-broad-70.snlo.dialup.fix.net... > > In article <y7hlb.236$wc3.9@newsread3.news.pas.earthlink.net> , "News > > Scout" <scoutnews@earthlink.net> wrote: > > > > > Us an update to this NG.... > > > > > > The root cause of the issue was this: a metal piece in very close > proximity > > > to the clutch mechanism had rubbed a small metal hose that connects the > > > clutch slave cylinder to the clutch master cylinder to the point that > this > > > small hose had developed a "pinhole" leak analogous to a copper water > pipe. > > > > > > Hence, when the slave clutch cylinder was originally replaced, the > dealer > > > thought that was the problem, seeing as it was covered with hydraulic > fluid. > > > However, they did not notice or find through testing that the slave > cylinder > > > was fine, but the small metal pipe that connects the slave and master > clutch > > > cylinders had a tiny leak. So 30 minutes after I drove the "fixed" > Accord > > > off the lot and applied the clutch a few times, all the hydraulic fluid > > > again completely leaked out of the system and clutch pressure went away > with > > > no functioning hydraulic system. > > > > > > The repair report said something about the proximity of this pipe in > > > relation to another unrelated engine component, after several thousand > > > miles, could cause friction activity leading to a leak. As Oklahoma has > > > crappy roads, this jostling of the car over the last six months may have > > > contributed to an early failure. > > > > > > So, the end result - Honda fabricated a new design (or they had a local > shop > > > do it) for this small pipe and made one for this Accord that ensures > there > > > is no contact with it and any other piece of the clutch or engine > assembly, > > > hence solving this issue. > > > > > > I am quite perplexed that computer-assisted modeling and accelerated > life > > > testing, in the thousands of variables that were probably used, did not > > > catch this design flaw. Being Six Sigma and ISO trained, the end > analysis > > > tells me that there was definitely an error made in this area of the > vehicle > > > insofar as design. > > > > > > Oh well, it's purring again and all seems to be well. It's so nice to > get > > > rid of that Ford Focus and relax in my car's environment. I'll give > Honda > > > one thing - their road and engine noise suppression is excellent. The > sound > > > tolerances remind me of a Lexus. > > > > > > Thanks for listening. > > > > > > Ciao. > > > > > > > > > "Bill B. Johnson" <billbjohnson555@nospamhotmail.com> wrote in message > > > > news:billbjohnson555-2110031026490001@pm3-broad-201.snlo.dialup.fix.net... > > > > In article <x7Ukb.4431$S52.803@newsread4.news.pas.earthlink.n et>, > "News > > > > Scout" <scoutnews@earthlink.net> wrote: > > > > > > > > > Very true - it is still very much in warranty (only 7,000 miles). > The > > > > > towing and rental cars have all been courtesy of Honda (no money > spent > > > at > > > > > all from me), so it is not that much of a nuisance at this time, as > this > > > car > > > > > is a lease anyway (I never buy cars). However, if it is a design > defect > > > > > (and now I have seen both leaking mechanisms at the dealer's service > > > > > center), I would insist on a new car with an automatic transmission. > > > The > > > > > non-confidence of being on a road trip and this happening again is > not > > > > > something I want. A mechanical problem that happens once is one > thing. > > > > > Twice makes me think real hard about alternatives. > > > > > > > > > > I listened to the dealer talking to Honda Engineering in California > and > > > this > > > > > may be a larger issue than just my car. Apparently, the automatic > > > outsells > > > > > the standard by 100-1, so there are not tens of thousands of 5-speed > > > 2.4L > > > > > 2003 Accord Coupes on the road - yet. If this is a bigger problem > than > > > just > > > > > the fluke of it happening to me twice, they have a big potential > problem > > > on > > > > > their hands. I doubt this would escalate into a recall, but who the > hell > > > > > knows. > > > > > > > > You may be right--this could be a bigger issue than just the problem > with > > > > your car. Many car companies try to keep problems that effect lots of > cars > > > > a secret from the public. They usually just fix the problems under the > > > > warranty program as the owners bring them in for service. They will > notify > > > > the Honda mechanics via of special notices so they can fix the > problems on > > > > those effected vehicles. Rarely ever do car companies annouce a major > > > > recall since a major recall will in most cases appear as a major news > > > > story and no car company likes it to happen. > > > > I'm glad that your problem has now been fixed to your satisfaction. You > > might call the mechanic and ask him to advise Honda Inc. of the problem so > > they can repair the problem in the same way related to many other vehicles > > that have the same problem. They can also correct the design flaw on next > > year's model of the same vehicle. Great Work--as a result of your actions and the actions of the service department of the Honda dealership that you visited--many owners of Honda cars like the one you own will be repaired. It's obvious that this design flaw will be fixed on next year's model. Thanks |
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