2003 Accord losing MPG on highway
01-15-2004, 11:02 AM
#91
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Re: Holy crap people are misinformed
"Chris Aseltine" <ophidian@newsnation.com> wrote in
news:fCmNb.52937$Rc4.204985@attbi_s54:
> "Jim Yanik" <jyanik@abuse.gov> writes:
>
>> "Chris Aseltine" <ophidian@newsnation.com> wrote:
>>
>>> Cold air is MORE dense than warm air, and thus, per unit volume,
>>> there is more oxygen and more combustion power. By temperature
>>> alone, an engine should deliver more power in colder air.
>>
>> But that means more fuel will be used per mile.
>> More power just means the motor spins up to a given RPM faster.
>
> How about, you can step on the gas pedal less for the same amount of
> power output? Less gas pedal = higher fuel mileage. Nice try though.
>
>
The fuel-air ratio has to stay constant for proper stoichiometry,so backing
off the throttle means you reduce the volume of air(even though it's
denser).Modern electronic fuel injection monitors exhaust O2 content and
adjusts fuel mix to keep it within specs(closed loop).In the newer OBD2
cars,the incoming air is measured,too.(temperature)
--
Jim Yanik
jyanik-at-kua.net
news:fCmNb.52937$Rc4.204985@attbi_s54:
> "Jim Yanik" <jyanik@abuse.gov> writes:
>
>> "Chris Aseltine" <ophidian@newsnation.com> wrote:
>>
>>> Cold air is MORE dense than warm air, and thus, per unit volume,
>>> there is more oxygen and more combustion power. By temperature
>>> alone, an engine should deliver more power in colder air.
>>
>> But that means more fuel will be used per mile.
>> More power just means the motor spins up to a given RPM faster.
>
> How about, you can step on the gas pedal less for the same amount of
> power output? Less gas pedal = higher fuel mileage. Nice try though.
>
>
The fuel-air ratio has to stay constant for proper stoichiometry,so backing
off the throttle means you reduce the volume of air(even though it's
denser).Modern electronic fuel injection monitors exhaust O2 content and
adjusts fuel mix to keep it within specs(closed loop).In the newer OBD2
cars,the incoming air is measured,too.(temperature)
--
Jim Yanik
jyanik-at-kua.net
01-15-2004, 11:02 AM
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Re: Holy crap people are misinformed
"Chris Aseltine" <ophidian@newsnation.com> wrote in
news:fCmNb.52937$Rc4.204985@attbi_s54:
> "Jim Yanik" <jyanik@abuse.gov> writes:
>
>> "Chris Aseltine" <ophidian@newsnation.com> wrote:
>>
>>> Cold air is MORE dense than warm air, and thus, per unit volume,
>>> there is more oxygen and more combustion power. By temperature
>>> alone, an engine should deliver more power in colder air.
>>
>> But that means more fuel will be used per mile.
>> More power just means the motor spins up to a given RPM faster.
>
> How about, you can step on the gas pedal less for the same amount of
> power output? Less gas pedal = higher fuel mileage. Nice try though.
>
>
The fuel-air ratio has to stay constant for proper stoichiometry,so backing
off the throttle means you reduce the volume of air(even though it's
denser).Modern electronic fuel injection monitors exhaust O2 content and
adjusts fuel mix to keep it within specs(closed loop).In the newer OBD2
cars,the incoming air is measured,too.(temperature)
--
Jim Yanik
jyanik-at-kua.net
news:fCmNb.52937$Rc4.204985@attbi_s54:
> "Jim Yanik" <jyanik@abuse.gov> writes:
>
>> "Chris Aseltine" <ophidian@newsnation.com> wrote:
>>
>>> Cold air is MORE dense than warm air, and thus, per unit volume,
>>> there is more oxygen and more combustion power. By temperature
>>> alone, an engine should deliver more power in colder air.
>>
>> But that means more fuel will be used per mile.
>> More power just means the motor spins up to a given RPM faster.
>
> How about, you can step on the gas pedal less for the same amount of
> power output? Less gas pedal = higher fuel mileage. Nice try though.
>
>
The fuel-air ratio has to stay constant for proper stoichiometry,so backing
off the throttle means you reduce the volume of air(even though it's
denser).Modern electronic fuel injection monitors exhaust O2 content and
adjusts fuel mix to keep it within specs(closed loop).In the newer OBD2
cars,the incoming air is measured,too.(temperature)
--
Jim Yanik
jyanik-at-kua.net
01-15-2004, 11:02 AM
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Re: Holy crap people are misinformed
"Chris Aseltine" <ophidian@newsnation.com> wrote in
news:fCmNb.52937$Rc4.204985@attbi_s54:
> "Jim Yanik" <jyanik@abuse.gov> writes:
>
>> "Chris Aseltine" <ophidian@newsnation.com> wrote:
>>
>>> Cold air is MORE dense than warm air, and thus, per unit volume,
>>> there is more oxygen and more combustion power. By temperature
>>> alone, an engine should deliver more power in colder air.
>>
>> But that means more fuel will be used per mile.
>> More power just means the motor spins up to a given RPM faster.
>
> How about, you can step on the gas pedal less for the same amount of
> power output? Less gas pedal = higher fuel mileage. Nice try though.
>
>
The fuel-air ratio has to stay constant for proper stoichiometry,so backing
off the throttle means you reduce the volume of air(even though it's
denser).Modern electronic fuel injection monitors exhaust O2 content and
adjusts fuel mix to keep it within specs(closed loop).In the newer OBD2
cars,the incoming air is measured,too.(temperature)
--
Jim Yanik
jyanik-at-kua.net
news:fCmNb.52937$Rc4.204985@attbi_s54:
> "Jim Yanik" <jyanik@abuse.gov> writes:
>
>> "Chris Aseltine" <ophidian@newsnation.com> wrote:
>>
>>> Cold air is MORE dense than warm air, and thus, per unit volume,
>>> there is more oxygen and more combustion power. By temperature
>>> alone, an engine should deliver more power in colder air.
>>
>> But that means more fuel will be used per mile.
>> More power just means the motor spins up to a given RPM faster.
>
> How about, you can step on the gas pedal less for the same amount of
> power output? Less gas pedal = higher fuel mileage. Nice try though.
>
>
The fuel-air ratio has to stay constant for proper stoichiometry,so backing
off the throttle means you reduce the volume of air(even though it's
denser).Modern electronic fuel injection monitors exhaust O2 content and
adjusts fuel mix to keep it within specs(closed loop).In the newer OBD2
cars,the incoming air is measured,too.(temperature)
--
Jim Yanik
jyanik-at-kua.net
03-02-2004, 04:39 PM
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Re: Holy crap people are misinformed
Chris Aseltine wrote:
>
> Geez, talking about more Wierd Science:
>
> "Artificial insemination is when the farmer does it to the cow
> instead of the bull."
>
> "When you breathe, you inspire; when you stop breathe, you expire."
>
> "
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03-02-2004, 04:39 PM
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Re: Holy crap people are misinformed
Chris Aseltine wrote:
>
> Geez, talking about more Wierd Science:
>
> "Artificial insemination is when the farmer does it to the cow
> instead of the bull."
>
> "When you breathe, you inspire; when you stop breathe, you expire."
>
> "
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03-02-2004, 04:39 PM
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Re: Holy crap people are misinformed
Chris Aseltine wrote:
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> Geez, talking about more Wierd Science:
>
> "Artificial insemination is when the farmer does it to the cow
> instead of the bull."
>
> "When you breathe, you inspire; when you stop breathe, you expire."
>
> "
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03-02-2004, 04:39 PM
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Re: Holy crap people are misinformed
Chris Aseltine wrote:
>
> Geez, talking about more Wierd Science:
>
> "Artificial insemination is when the farmer does it to the cow
> instead of the bull."
>
> "When you breathe, you inspire; when you stop breathe, you expire."
>
> "
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03-02-2004, 10:25 PM
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Re: Holy crap people are misinformed
"GusTheCat" <GusTheCat.12ifh9@realcaraudio.com> writes:
> Chris Aseltine wrote:
>
>> Geez, talking about more Wierd Science:
>>
>> "Artificial insemination is when the farmer does it to the cow
>> instead of the bull."
>>
>> "When you breathe, you inspire; when you stop breathe, you expire."
Excuse me, but I did not write any of that.
> Chris Aseltine wrote:
>
>> Geez, talking about more Wierd Science:
>>
>> "Artificial insemination is when the farmer does it to the cow
>> instead of the bull."
>>
>> "When you breathe, you inspire; when you stop breathe, you expire."
Excuse me, but I did not write any of that.
03-02-2004, 10:25 PM
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Re: Holy crap people are misinformed
"GusTheCat" <GusTheCat.12ifh9@realcaraudio.com> writes:
> Chris Aseltine wrote:
>
>> Geez, talking about more Wierd Science:
>>
>> "Artificial insemination is when the farmer does it to the cow
>> instead of the bull."
>>
>> "When you breathe, you inspire; when you stop breathe, you expire."
Excuse me, but I did not write any of that.
> Chris Aseltine wrote:
>
>> Geez, talking about more Wierd Science:
>>
>> "Artificial insemination is when the farmer does it to the cow
>> instead of the bull."
>>
>> "When you breathe, you inspire; when you stop breathe, you expire."
Excuse me, but I did not write any of that.
03-02-2004, 10:25 PM
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Re: Holy crap people are misinformed
"GusTheCat" <GusTheCat.12ifh9@realcaraudio.com> writes:
> Chris Aseltine wrote:
>
>> Geez, talking about more Wierd Science:
>>
>> "Artificial insemination is when the farmer does it to the cow
>> instead of the bull."
>>
>> "When you breathe, you inspire; when you stop breathe, you expire."
Excuse me, but I did not write any of that.
> Chris Aseltine wrote:
>
>> Geez, talking about more Wierd Science:
>>
>> "Artificial insemination is when the farmer does it to the cow
>> instead of the bull."
>>
>> "When you breathe, you inspire; when you stop breathe, you expire."
Excuse me, but I did not write any of that.
03-02-2004, 10:25 PM
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Re: Holy crap people are misinformed
"GusTheCat" <GusTheCat.12ifh9@realcaraudio.com> writes:
> Chris Aseltine wrote:
>
>> Geez, talking about more Wierd Science:
>>
>> "Artificial insemination is when the farmer does it to the cow
>> instead of the bull."
>>
>> "When you breathe, you inspire; when you stop breathe, you expire."
Excuse me, but I did not write any of that.
> Chris Aseltine wrote:
>
>> Geez, talking about more Wierd Science:
>>
>> "Artificial insemination is when the farmer does it to the cow
>> instead of the bull."
>>
>> "When you breathe, you inspire; when you stop breathe, you expire."
Excuse me, but I did not write any of that.
08-29-2004, 04:34 PM
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Re: Holy crap people are misinformed
Chris Aseltine wrote:
>
> LOL, Dude, your car does not run on air, your car run on gas
> However, with more air you can burn more gas..
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08-29-2004, 04:34 PM
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Re: Holy crap people are misinformed
Chris Aseltine wrote:
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> LOL, Dude, your car does not run on air, your car run on gas
> However, with more air you can burn more gas..
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08-30-2004, 12:17 AM
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Re: Holy crap people are misinformed
On Sun, 29 Aug 2004 20:34:20 GMT, GusTheCat
<GusTheCat.1brooq@realcaraudio.com> wrote:
>Chris Aseltine wrote:
>> LOL, Dude, your car does not run on air, your car run on gas.
>> However, with more air you can burn more gas...
....Ignorant, too.
<GusTheCat.1brooq@realcaraudio.com> wrote:
>Chris Aseltine wrote:
>> LOL, Dude, your car does not run on air, your car run on gas.
>> However, with more air you can burn more gas...
....Ignorant, too.
08-30-2004, 12:17 AM
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Re: Holy crap people are misinformed
On Sun, 29 Aug 2004 20:34:20 GMT, GusTheCat
<GusTheCat.1brooq@realcaraudio.com> wrote:
>Chris Aseltine wrote:
>> LOL, Dude, your car does not run on air, your car run on gas.
>> However, with more air you can burn more gas...
....Ignorant, too.
<GusTheCat.1brooq@realcaraudio.com> wrote:
>Chris Aseltine wrote:
>> LOL, Dude, your car does not run on air, your car run on gas.
>> However, with more air you can burn more gas...
....Ignorant, too.