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Pete 10-15-2003 06:17 AM

Re: 2003 Accord Oil Change, once a year?
 

"wolf00359" <wolf00359.vbngz@realcaraudio.com> wrote in message
news:wolf00359.vbngz@realcaraudio.com...
> he suggested I change the oil on
> the new Accord at 650 miles and to not drive the engine hard. Reason:
> Brand new engine will need all internal parts to set in. As it does
> there will be debris, very small debris, that will come off. Some of
> it will be traped in the oil filter but some will recycle into the
> engine. This will in the long run cause engine damage.


The minute debirs that floats around, suspended in oil is actualy doing a
job there. It helps polish out any rough surfaces in a brand new engine.
That's partly how the break-in takes place. And that's why it should be
left there for as long as Honda recommends to finish this job. Otherwise,
your engine will not be properly broken-in.


> I've learned to trust Dave, my mechanic.


Does Dave know more about this engine than Honda engineers that designed it?
Why would Honda suggest something that would "cause engine damage",
especially right at the beginning, when there is almost 3 full years of
warranty still remaining?


> And by the way...the oil change for the '03 Accord EX is more
> expensive..it requires 5/20..or something like that....


And? 5w-20 is no more expensive than other oil grades, unless you choose to
buy it from a Honda dealer of course.

Cheers,

Pete



Pete 10-15-2003 06:17 AM

Re: 2003 Accord Oil Change, once a year?
 

"wolf00359" <wolf00359.vbngz@realcaraudio.com> wrote in message
news:wolf00359.vbngz@realcaraudio.com...
> he suggested I change the oil on
> the new Accord at 650 miles and to not drive the engine hard. Reason:
> Brand new engine will need all internal parts to set in. As it does
> there will be debris, very small debris, that will come off. Some of
> it will be traped in the oil filter but some will recycle into the
> engine. This will in the long run cause engine damage.


The minute debirs that floats around, suspended in oil is actualy doing a
job there. It helps polish out any rough surfaces in a brand new engine.
That's partly how the break-in takes place. And that's why it should be
left there for as long as Honda recommends to finish this job. Otherwise,
your engine will not be properly broken-in.


> I've learned to trust Dave, my mechanic.


Does Dave know more about this engine than Honda engineers that designed it?
Why would Honda suggest something that would "cause engine damage",
especially right at the beginning, when there is almost 3 full years of
warranty still remaining?


> And by the way...the oil change for the '03 Accord EX is more
> expensive..it requires 5/20..or something like that....


And? 5w-20 is no more expensive than other oil grades, unless you choose to
buy it from a Honda dealer of course.

Cheers,

Pete



TL 10-15-2003 11:44 AM

Re: 2003 Accord Oil Change, once a year?
 
On Wed, 15 Oct 2003 03:44:45 GMT, wolf00359
<wolf00359.vbngz@realcaraudio.com> wrote:

>
>After I bought our '03 Accord EX 5speed I called my mechanic...whom by
>the way sold my '94 Accord EX with 285K miles for $500...which is what
>the dealer was offering me as a trade-in value. Anyway, while I was
>asking him if he wanted to buy it...he suggested I change the oil on
>the new Accord at 650 miles and to not drive the engine hard. Reason:
>Brand new engine will need all internal parts to set in. As it does
>there will be debris, very small debris, that will come off. Some of
>it will be traped in the oil filter but some will recycle into the
>engine. This will in the long run cause engine damage. I did exactly
>what he suggested...from there on he suggested every 3K miles.
>
>I've learned to trust Dave, my mechanic. My Honda rarely...I mean
>rarely needed to be repaired...except for the five sets of tires I went
>thru, 4 sets of breaks, 2 sets of rotors, 2nd mufler install with
>catalyc converter and some other major exhaust pipe that cost a
>bundle.
>
>And by the way...the oil change for the '03 Accord EX is more
>expensive..it requires 5/20..or something like that....
>
>Enought talk....


The Honda manual makes it clear that they strongly recommend that you
leave the initial oil in the engine for the specified interval. I've
heard from others in this group that there is a special break-in oil
in the car. I can't confirm that, but their specific instructions not
to do the first oil change until the right mileage would support that
notion. Note they don't just put the interval in the maintenance
chart. They specifically say not to do the first one early.

I'm glad you have a mechanic you trust and like. But why would you
assume that he knows more about how to properly break-in this engine
than the engineers that designed it? Why would Honda recommend so
strongly a first change approach if it was so obvious that it can
damage the engine?



TL 10-15-2003 11:44 AM

Re: 2003 Accord Oil Change, once a year?
 
On Wed, 15 Oct 2003 03:44:45 GMT, wolf00359
<wolf00359.vbngz@realcaraudio.com> wrote:

>
>After I bought our '03 Accord EX 5speed I called my mechanic...whom by
>the way sold my '94 Accord EX with 285K miles for $500...which is what
>the dealer was offering me as a trade-in value. Anyway, while I was
>asking him if he wanted to buy it...he suggested I change the oil on
>the new Accord at 650 miles and to not drive the engine hard. Reason:
>Brand new engine will need all internal parts to set in. As it does
>there will be debris, very small debris, that will come off. Some of
>it will be traped in the oil filter but some will recycle into the
>engine. This will in the long run cause engine damage. I did exactly
>what he suggested...from there on he suggested every 3K miles.
>
>I've learned to trust Dave, my mechanic. My Honda rarely...I mean
>rarely needed to be repaired...except for the five sets of tires I went
>thru, 4 sets of breaks, 2 sets of rotors, 2nd mufler install with
>catalyc converter and some other major exhaust pipe that cost a
>bundle.
>
>And by the way...the oil change for the '03 Accord EX is more
>expensive..it requires 5/20..or something like that....
>
>Enought talk....


The Honda manual makes it clear that they strongly recommend that you
leave the initial oil in the engine for the specified interval. I've
heard from others in this group that there is a special break-in oil
in the car. I can't confirm that, but their specific instructions not
to do the first oil change until the right mileage would support that
notion. Note they don't just put the interval in the maintenance
chart. They specifically say not to do the first one early.

I'm glad you have a mechanic you trust and like. But why would you
assume that he knows more about how to properly break-in this engine
than the engineers that designed it? Why would Honda recommend so
strongly a first change approach if it was so obvious that it can
damage the engine?



TL 10-15-2003 11:44 AM

Re: 2003 Accord Oil Change, once a year?
 
On Wed, 15 Oct 2003 03:44:45 GMT, wolf00359
<wolf00359.vbngz@realcaraudio.com> wrote:

>
>After I bought our '03 Accord EX 5speed I called my mechanic...whom by
>the way sold my '94 Accord EX with 285K miles for $500...which is what
>the dealer was offering me as a trade-in value. Anyway, while I was
>asking him if he wanted to buy it...he suggested I change the oil on
>the new Accord at 650 miles and to not drive the engine hard. Reason:
>Brand new engine will need all internal parts to set in. As it does
>there will be debris, very small debris, that will come off. Some of
>it will be traped in the oil filter but some will recycle into the
>engine. This will in the long run cause engine damage. I did exactly
>what he suggested...from there on he suggested every 3K miles.
>
>I've learned to trust Dave, my mechanic. My Honda rarely...I mean
>rarely needed to be repaired...except for the five sets of tires I went
>thru, 4 sets of breaks, 2 sets of rotors, 2nd mufler install with
>catalyc converter and some other major exhaust pipe that cost a
>bundle.
>
>And by the way...the oil change for the '03 Accord EX is more
>expensive..it requires 5/20..or something like that....
>
>Enought talk....


The Honda manual makes it clear that they strongly recommend that you
leave the initial oil in the engine for the specified interval. I've
heard from others in this group that there is a special break-in oil
in the car. I can't confirm that, but their specific instructions not
to do the first oil change until the right mileage would support that
notion. Note they don't just put the interval in the maintenance
chart. They specifically say not to do the first one early.

I'm glad you have a mechanic you trust and like. But why would you
assume that he knows more about how to properly break-in this engine
than the engineers that designed it? Why would Honda recommend so
strongly a first change approach if it was so obvious that it can
damage the engine?



Jay A 11-11-2003 01:15 AM

Re: 2003 Accord Oil Change, once a year?
 
Many of you may not believe the following, many more of you may think I am
crazy, but I am 50 years old, have owned 7 cars in the last 32 years, have
never owned a car that did not get at least 200,000 miles on it before I
traded it in, and in every single instance, after the first year of
ownership, never did I change the oil in any of them prior to at least
30,000 miles, if at least that little. Call me lucky? Call me crazy? Well, I
have always felt that if someone who wants to sell you oil, he will try and
sell you as much of it, and as often as he can talk you into it.





Jay A 11-11-2003 01:15 AM

Re: 2003 Accord Oil Change, once a year?
 
Many of you may not believe the following, many more of you may think I am
crazy, but I am 50 years old, have owned 7 cars in the last 32 years, have
never owned a car that did not get at least 200,000 miles on it before I
traded it in, and in every single instance, after the first year of
ownership, never did I change the oil in any of them prior to at least
30,000 miles, if at least that little. Call me lucky? Call me crazy? Well, I
have always felt that if someone who wants to sell you oil, he will try and
sell you as much of it, and as often as he can talk you into it.





Jay A 11-11-2003 01:15 AM

Re: 2003 Accord Oil Change, once a year?
 
Many of you may not believe the following, many more of you may think I am
crazy, but I am 50 years old, have owned 7 cars in the last 32 years, have
never owned a car that did not get at least 200,000 miles on it before I
traded it in, and in every single instance, after the first year of
ownership, never did I change the oil in any of them prior to at least
30,000 miles, if at least that little. Call me lucky? Call me crazy? Well, I
have always felt that if someone who wants to sell you oil, he will try and
sell you as much of it, and as often as he can talk you into it.





Jay A 11-11-2003 01:15 AM

Re: 2003 Accord Oil Change, once a year?
 
Many of you may not believe the following, many more of you may think I am
crazy, but I am 50 years old, have owned 7 cars in the last 32 years, have
never owned a car that did not get at least 200,000 miles on it before I
traded it in, and in every single instance, after the first year of
ownership, never did I change the oil in any of them prior to at least
30,000 miles, if at least that little. Call me lucky? Call me crazy? Well, I
have always felt that if someone who wants to sell you oil, he will try and
sell you as much of it, and as often as he can talk you into it.





Robert Upward 11-11-2003 09:34 AM

Re: 2003 Accord Oil Change, once a year?
 
I'm glad that works for you, but I've never heard of anyone having a
problem because they changed their oil too often.

Rob


"Jay A" <jayfromca@verizon.net> wrote in message
news:r8%rb.35387$p9.28144@nwrddc02.gnilink.net...
> Many of you may not believe the following, many more of you may think I am
> crazy, but I am 50 years old, have owned 7 cars in the last 32 years, have
> never owned a car that did not get at least 200,000 miles on it before I
> traded it in, and in every single instance, after the first year of
> ownership, never did I change the oil in any of them prior to at least
> 30,000 miles, if at least that little. Call me lucky? Call me crazy? Well,

I
> have always felt that if someone who wants to sell you oil, he will try

and
> sell you as much of it, and as often as he can talk you into it.
>
>
>
>




Robert Upward 11-11-2003 09:34 AM

Re: 2003 Accord Oil Change, once a year?
 
I'm glad that works for you, but I've never heard of anyone having a
problem because they changed their oil too often.

Rob


"Jay A" <jayfromca@verizon.net> wrote in message
news:r8%rb.35387$p9.28144@nwrddc02.gnilink.net...
> Many of you may not believe the following, many more of you may think I am
> crazy, but I am 50 years old, have owned 7 cars in the last 32 years, have
> never owned a car that did not get at least 200,000 miles on it before I
> traded it in, and in every single instance, after the first year of
> ownership, never did I change the oil in any of them prior to at least
> 30,000 miles, if at least that little. Call me lucky? Call me crazy? Well,

I
> have always felt that if someone who wants to sell you oil, he will try

and
> sell you as much of it, and as often as he can talk you into it.
>
>
>
>




Robert Upward 11-11-2003 09:34 AM

Re: 2003 Accord Oil Change, once a year?
 
I'm glad that works for you, but I've never heard of anyone having a
problem because they changed their oil too often.

Rob


"Jay A" <jayfromca@verizon.net> wrote in message
news:r8%rb.35387$p9.28144@nwrddc02.gnilink.net...
> Many of you may not believe the following, many more of you may think I am
> crazy, but I am 50 years old, have owned 7 cars in the last 32 years, have
> never owned a car that did not get at least 200,000 miles on it before I
> traded it in, and in every single instance, after the first year of
> ownership, never did I change the oil in any of them prior to at least
> 30,000 miles, if at least that little. Call me lucky? Call me crazy? Well,

I
> have always felt that if someone who wants to sell you oil, he will try

and
> sell you as much of it, and as often as he can talk you into it.
>
>
>
>




Robert Upward 11-11-2003 09:34 AM

Re: 2003 Accord Oil Change, once a year?
 
I'm glad that works for you, but I've never heard of anyone having a
problem because they changed their oil too often.

Rob


"Jay A" <jayfromca@verizon.net> wrote in message
news:r8%rb.35387$p9.28144@nwrddc02.gnilink.net...
> Many of you may not believe the following, many more of you may think I am
> crazy, but I am 50 years old, have owned 7 cars in the last 32 years, have
> never owned a car that did not get at least 200,000 miles on it before I
> traded it in, and in every single instance, after the first year of
> ownership, never did I change the oil in any of them prior to at least
> 30,000 miles, if at least that little. Call me lucky? Call me crazy? Well,

I
> have always felt that if someone who wants to sell you oil, he will try

and
> sell you as much of it, and as often as he can talk you into it.
>
>
>
>




Bill B. Johnson 11-11-2003 12:41 PM

Re: 2003 Accord Oil Change, once a year?
 
In article <r8%rb.35387$p9.28144@nwrddc02.gnilink.net>, "Jay A"
<jayfromca@verizon.net> wrote:

> Many of you may not believe the following, many more of you may think I am
> crazy, but I am 50 years old, have owned 7 cars in the last 32 years, have
> never owned a car that did not get at least 200,000 miles on it before I
> traded it in, and in every single instance, after the first year of
> ownership, never did I change the oil in any of them prior to at least
> 30,000 miles, if at least that little. Call me lucky? Call me crazy? Well, I
> have always felt that if someone who wants to sell you oil, he will try and
> sell you as much of it, and as often as he can talk you into it.


You are Lucky and you are Crazy.

Bill B. Johnson 11-11-2003 12:41 PM

Re: 2003 Accord Oil Change, once a year?
 
In article <r8%rb.35387$p9.28144@nwrddc02.gnilink.net>, "Jay A"
<jayfromca@verizon.net> wrote:

> Many of you may not believe the following, many more of you may think I am
> crazy, but I am 50 years old, have owned 7 cars in the last 32 years, have
> never owned a car that did not get at least 200,000 miles on it before I
> traded it in, and in every single instance, after the first year of
> ownership, never did I change the oil in any of them prior to at least
> 30,000 miles, if at least that little. Call me lucky? Call me crazy? Well, I
> have always felt that if someone who wants to sell you oil, he will try and
> sell you as much of it, and as often as he can talk you into it.


You are Lucky and you are Crazy.

Bill B. Johnson 11-11-2003 12:41 PM

Re: 2003 Accord Oil Change, once a year?
 
In article <r8%rb.35387$p9.28144@nwrddc02.gnilink.net>, "Jay A"
<jayfromca@verizon.net> wrote:

> Many of you may not believe the following, many more of you may think I am
> crazy, but I am 50 years old, have owned 7 cars in the last 32 years, have
> never owned a car that did not get at least 200,000 miles on it before I
> traded it in, and in every single instance, after the first year of
> ownership, never did I change the oil in any of them prior to at least
> 30,000 miles, if at least that little. Call me lucky? Call me crazy? Well, I
> have always felt that if someone who wants to sell you oil, he will try and
> sell you as much of it, and as often as he can talk you into it.


You are Lucky and you are Crazy.

Bill B. Johnson 11-11-2003 12:41 PM

Re: 2003 Accord Oil Change, once a year?
 
In article <r8%rb.35387$p9.28144@nwrddc02.gnilink.net>, "Jay A"
<jayfromca@verizon.net> wrote:

> Many of you may not believe the following, many more of you may think I am
> crazy, but I am 50 years old, have owned 7 cars in the last 32 years, have
> never owned a car that did not get at least 200,000 miles on it before I
> traded it in, and in every single instance, after the first year of
> ownership, never did I change the oil in any of them prior to at least
> 30,000 miles, if at least that little. Call me lucky? Call me crazy? Well, I
> have always felt that if someone who wants to sell you oil, he will try and
> sell you as much of it, and as often as he can talk you into it.


You are Lucky and you are Crazy.

xxxxxxxx 11-11-2003 07:51 PM

Re: 2003 Accord Oil Change, once a year?
 

"Jay A" <jayfromca@verizon.net> wrote in message
news:r8%rb.35387$p9.28144@nwrddc02.gnilink.net...
> Many of you may not believe the following, many more of you may think I am
> crazy, but I am 50 years old, have owned 7 cars in the last 32 years, have
> never owned a car that did not get at least 200,000 miles on it before I
> traded it in, and in every single instance, after the first year of
> ownership, never did I change the oil in any of them prior to at least
> 30,000 miles, if at least that little. Call me lucky? Call me crazy? Well,

I
> have always felt that if someone who wants to sell you oil, he will try

and
> sell you as much of it, and as often as he can talk you into it.

I had a 77 Ford wagon , which I did the same only the engine packed it in at
80,000 miles
ed/ontario



xxxxxxxx 11-11-2003 07:51 PM

Re: 2003 Accord Oil Change, once a year?
 

"Jay A" <jayfromca@verizon.net> wrote in message
news:r8%rb.35387$p9.28144@nwrddc02.gnilink.net...
> Many of you may not believe the following, many more of you may think I am
> crazy, but I am 50 years old, have owned 7 cars in the last 32 years, have
> never owned a car that did not get at least 200,000 miles on it before I
> traded it in, and in every single instance, after the first year of
> ownership, never did I change the oil in any of them prior to at least
> 30,000 miles, if at least that little. Call me lucky? Call me crazy? Well,

I
> have always felt that if someone who wants to sell you oil, he will try

and
> sell you as much of it, and as often as he can talk you into it.

I had a 77 Ford wagon , which I did the same only the engine packed it in at
80,000 miles
ed/ontario



xxxxxxxx 11-11-2003 07:51 PM

Re: 2003 Accord Oil Change, once a year?
 

"Jay A" <jayfromca@verizon.net> wrote in message
news:r8%rb.35387$p9.28144@nwrddc02.gnilink.net...
> Many of you may not believe the following, many more of you may think I am
> crazy, but I am 50 years old, have owned 7 cars in the last 32 years, have
> never owned a car that did not get at least 200,000 miles on it before I
> traded it in, and in every single instance, after the first year of
> ownership, never did I change the oil in any of them prior to at least
> 30,000 miles, if at least that little. Call me lucky? Call me crazy? Well,

I
> have always felt that if someone who wants to sell you oil, he will try

and
> sell you as much of it, and as often as he can talk you into it.

I had a 77 Ford wagon , which I did the same only the engine packed it in at
80,000 miles
ed/ontario



xxxxxxxx 11-11-2003 07:51 PM

Re: 2003 Accord Oil Change, once a year?
 

"Jay A" <jayfromca@verizon.net> wrote in message
news:r8%rb.35387$p9.28144@nwrddc02.gnilink.net...
> Many of you may not believe the following, many more of you may think I am
> crazy, but I am 50 years old, have owned 7 cars in the last 32 years, have
> never owned a car that did not get at least 200,000 miles on it before I
> traded it in, and in every single instance, after the first year of
> ownership, never did I change the oil in any of them prior to at least
> 30,000 miles, if at least that little. Call me lucky? Call me crazy? Well,

I
> have always felt that if someone who wants to sell you oil, he will try

and
> sell you as much of it, and as often as he can talk you into it.

I had a 77 Ford wagon , which I did the same only the engine packed it in at
80,000 miles
ed/ontario



CaptainKrunch 02-04-2004 12:43 PM

Re: 2003 Accord Oil Change, once a year?
 
Of course you have to bleed the old air out of the tires and put new air
in. Tires are porous and that is why air leaks out over time. In the
process moisture is able to get into the air in the tire and now you have a
mass of water in your tire. This mass throws off your balancing and give
you tire wobble and shimmy. That is why it is important to change the air
in your tires regularly.

I am sure someone will believe that.

CaptainKrunch


"GusTheCat" <GusTheCat.119d83@realcaraudio.com> wrote in message
news:GusTheCat.119d83@realcaraudio.com...
>
> Gentlemen, don't forget to bleed the stale air out of your tires and
> recharge with fresh air every two years, too. Endorsed or discredited
> at cartalk.com, I forgot.
>
> Brian Smith wrote:
> > *"Bill B. Johnson" <billbjohnson555@nospamhotmail.com> wrote in
> > message
> >

news:billbjohnson555-2009030854320001@pm2-broad-134.snlo.dialup.fix.net...
> >
> > You forgot to mention changing the brake fluid every two years, as
> > well.
> >
> > --
> > Brian
> > www.accesswave.ca/~orion *

>
>
> --
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CaptainKrunch 02-04-2004 12:43 PM

Re: 2003 Accord Oil Change, once a year?
 
Of course you have to bleed the old air out of the tires and put new air
in. Tires are porous and that is why air leaks out over time. In the
process moisture is able to get into the air in the tire and now you have a
mass of water in your tire. This mass throws off your balancing and give
you tire wobble and shimmy. That is why it is important to change the air
in your tires regularly.

I am sure someone will believe that.

CaptainKrunch


"GusTheCat" <GusTheCat.119d83@realcaraudio.com> wrote in message
news:GusTheCat.119d83@realcaraudio.com...
>
> Gentlemen, don't forget to bleed the stale air out of your tires and
> recharge with fresh air every two years, too. Endorsed or discredited
> at cartalk.com, I forgot.
>
> Brian Smith wrote:
> > *"Bill B. Johnson" <billbjohnson555@nospamhotmail.com> wrote in
> > message
> >

news:billbjohnson555-2009030854320001@pm2-broad-134.snlo.dialup.fix.net...
> >
> > You forgot to mention changing the brake fluid every two years, as
> > well.
> >
> > --
> > Brian
> > www.accesswave.ca/~orion *

>
>
> --
> GusTheCat
> ------------------------------------------------------------------------
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>




CaptainKrunch 02-04-2004 12:43 PM

Re: 2003 Accord Oil Change, once a year?
 
Of course you have to bleed the old air out of the tires and put new air
in. Tires are porous and that is why air leaks out over time. In the
process moisture is able to get into the air in the tire and now you have a
mass of water in your tire. This mass throws off your balancing and give
you tire wobble and shimmy. That is why it is important to change the air
in your tires regularly.

I am sure someone will believe that.

CaptainKrunch


"GusTheCat" <GusTheCat.119d83@realcaraudio.com> wrote in message
news:GusTheCat.119d83@realcaraudio.com...
>
> Gentlemen, don't forget to bleed the stale air out of your tires and
> recharge with fresh air every two years, too. Endorsed or discredited
> at cartalk.com, I forgot.
>
> Brian Smith wrote:
> > *"Bill B. Johnson" <billbjohnson555@nospamhotmail.com> wrote in
> > message
> >

news:billbjohnson555-2009030854320001@pm2-broad-134.snlo.dialup.fix.net...
> >
> > You forgot to mention changing the brake fluid every two years, as
> > well.
> >
> > --
> > Brian
> > www.accesswave.ca/~orion *

>
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CaptainKrunch 02-04-2004 12:43 PM

Re: 2003 Accord Oil Change, once a year?
 
Of course you have to bleed the old air out of the tires and put new air
in. Tires are porous and that is why air leaks out over time. In the
process moisture is able to get into the air in the tire and now you have a
mass of water in your tire. This mass throws off your balancing and give
you tire wobble and shimmy. That is why it is important to change the air
in your tires regularly.

I am sure someone will believe that.

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> Gentlemen, don't forget to bleed the stale air out of your tires and
> recharge with fresh air every two years, too. Endorsed or discredited
> at cartalk.com, I forgot.
>
> Brian Smith wrote:
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> > You forgot to mention changing the brake fluid every two years, as
> > well.
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John Horner 02-06-2004 02:55 AM

Re: 2003 Accord Oil Change, once a year?
 
If you want to spend some time learning about oil, check out the discussion
forums at Bob Is the Oil Guy:

http://theoildrop.server101.com/cgi/ultimatebb.cgi

More hard data is available there than anywhere else in the public domain
IMO.

John



John Horner 02-06-2004 02:55 AM

Re: 2003 Accord Oil Change, once a year?
 
If you want to spend some time learning about oil, check out the discussion
forums at Bob Is the Oil Guy:

http://theoildrop.server101.com/cgi/ultimatebb.cgi

More hard data is available there than anywhere else in the public domain
IMO.

John



John Horner 02-06-2004 02:55 AM

Re: 2003 Accord Oil Change, once a year?
 
If you want to spend some time learning about oil, check out the discussion
forums at Bob Is the Oil Guy:

http://theoildrop.server101.com/cgi/ultimatebb.cgi

More hard data is available there than anywhere else in the public domain
IMO.

John



John Horner 02-06-2004 02:55 AM

Re: 2003 Accord Oil Change, once a year?
 
If you want to spend some time learning about oil, check out the discussion
forums at Bob Is the Oil Guy:

http://theoildrop.server101.com/cgi/ultimatebb.cgi

More hard data is available there than anywhere else in the public domain
IMO.

John



GusTheCat 02-07-2004 08:30 AM

Re: 2003 Accord Oil Change, once a year?
 

Yep. Only your purse/wallet suffers. The thing is that: sometimes you
just never know, and we all better be safe than sorry.

The new Brita water filtration pitcher nows uses a timer instead of a
"mileage" gauge for the filter, so that you will be reminded to change
the filter every two months.

Does the filtration materials (active carbon and ion exchange resins)
break down or are less effective after two months? I don't know. Does
this guarantee the manufacturer a stable revenue? You bet, if you are
squeamish. Is it more convenient? Yes...

Robert Upward wrote:
> [B]I'm glad that works for you, but I've never heard of anyone
> having a problem because they changed their oil too often.
>
> Rob



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GusTheCat 02-07-2004 08:30 AM

Re: 2003 Accord Oil Change, once a year?
 

Yep. Only your purse/wallet suffers. The thing is that: sometimes you
just never know, and we all better be safe than sorry.

The new Brita water filtration pitcher nows uses a timer instead of a
"mileage" gauge for the filter, so that you will be reminded to change
the filter every two months.

Does the filtration materials (active carbon and ion exchange resins)
break down or are less effective after two months? I don't know. Does
this guarantee the manufacturer a stable revenue? You bet, if you are
squeamish. Is it more convenient? Yes...

Robert Upward wrote:
> [B]I'm glad that works for you, but I've never heard of anyone
> having a problem because they changed their oil too often.
>
> Rob



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GusTheCat 02-07-2004 08:30 AM

Re: 2003 Accord Oil Change, once a year?
 

Yep. Only your purse/wallet suffers. The thing is that: sometimes you
just never know, and we all better be safe than sorry.

The new Brita water filtration pitcher nows uses a timer instead of a
"mileage" gauge for the filter, so that you will be reminded to change
the filter every two months.

Does the filtration materials (active carbon and ion exchange resins)
break down or are less effective after two months? I don't know. Does
this guarantee the manufacturer a stable revenue? You bet, if you are
squeamish. Is it more convenient? Yes...

Robert Upward wrote:
> [B]I'm glad that works for you, but I've never heard of anyone
> having a problem because they changed their oil too often.
>
> Rob



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GusTheCat 02-07-2004 08:30 AM

Re: 2003 Accord Oil Change, once a year?
 

Yep. Only your purse/wallet suffers. The thing is that: sometimes you
just never know, and we all better be safe than sorry.

The new Brita water filtration pitcher nows uses a timer instead of a
"mileage" gauge for the filter, so that you will be reminded to change
the filter every two months.

Does the filtration materials (active carbon and ion exchange resins)
break down or are less effective after two months? I don't know. Does
this guarantee the manufacturer a stable revenue? You bet, if you are
squeamish. Is it more convenient? Yes...

Robert Upward wrote:
> [B]I'm glad that works for you, but I've never heard of anyone
> having a problem because they changed their oil too often.
>
> Rob



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GusTheCat 02-07-2004 08:30 AM

Re: 2003 Accord Oil Change, once a year?
 

Gentlemen, don't forget to bleed the stale air out of your tires and
recharge with fresh air every two years, too. Endorsed or discredited
at cartalk.com, I forgot.

Brian Smith wrote:
> *"Bill B. Johnson" <billbjohnson555@nospamhotmail.com> wrote in
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> You forgot to mention changing the brake fluid every two years, as
> well.
>
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GusTheCat 02-07-2004 08:30 AM

Re: 2003 Accord Oil Change, once a year?
 

Gentlemen, don't forget to bleed the stale air out of your tires and
recharge with fresh air every two years, too. Endorsed or discredited
at cartalk.com, I forgot.

Brian Smith wrote:
> *"Bill B. Johnson" <billbjohnson555@nospamhotmail.com> wrote in
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>
> You forgot to mention changing the brake fluid every two years, as
> well.
>
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GusTheCat 02-07-2004 08:30 AM

Re: 2003 Accord Oil Change, once a year?
 

Gentlemen, don't forget to bleed the stale air out of your tires and
recharge with fresh air every two years, too. Endorsed or discredited
at cartalk.com, I forgot.

Brian Smith wrote:
> *"Bill B. Johnson" <billbjohnson555@nospamhotmail.com> wrote in
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>
> You forgot to mention changing the brake fluid every two years, as
> well.
>
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GusTheCat 02-07-2004 08:30 AM

Re: 2003 Accord Oil Change, once a year?
 

Gentlemen, don't forget to bleed the stale air out of your tires and
recharge with fresh air every two years, too. Endorsed or discredited
at cartalk.com, I forgot.

Brian Smith wrote:
> *"Bill B. Johnson" <billbjohnson555@nospamhotmail.com> wrote in
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>
> You forgot to mention changing the brake fluid every two years, as
> well.
>
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GusTheCat 02-07-2004 08:30 AM

Re: 2003 Accord Oil Change, once a year?
 

Dave Kelsen wrote:
> [B]On 9/28/2003 8:35 AM xxxxxxxx spake these words of knowledge:
>
> Talking about short trips: I drive my '89 Mazda every day to and from
> light rail parking lot, which is 1.0 mile from my home, including
> 30F- winter. And did I ever allow the engine warm up? Nope. I am like
> jack rabbit each morning. The temp gauge does not budge at
> destination.
>
> However, I make it a point to bring the car on the freeway once a
> week for 20 miles. So far no problem for 3+ years, well, maybe not
> long enough to make a say.



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Re: 2003 Accord Oil Change, once a year?
 

Dave Kelsen wrote:
> [B]On 9/28/2003 8:35 AM xxxxxxxx spake these words of knowledge:
>
> Talking about short trips: I drive my '89 Mazda every day to and from
> light rail parking lot, which is 1.0 mile from my home, including
> 30F- winter. And did I ever allow the engine warm up? Nope. I am like
> jack rabbit each morning. The temp gauge does not budge at
> destination.
>
> However, I make it a point to bring the car on the freeway once a
> week for 20 miles. So far no problem for 3+ years, well, maybe not
> long enough to make a say.



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Re: 2003 Accord Oil Change, once a year?
 

Dave Kelsen wrote:
> [B]On 9/28/2003 8:35 AM xxxxxxxx spake these words of knowledge:
>
> Talking about short trips: I drive my '89 Mazda every day to and from
> light rail parking lot, which is 1.0 mile from my home, including
> 30F- winter. And did I ever allow the engine warm up? Nope. I am like
> jack rabbit each morning. The temp gauge does not budge at
> destination.
>
> However, I make it a point to bring the car on the freeway once a
> week for 20 miles. So far no problem for 3+ years, well, maybe not
> long enough to make a say.



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