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mxxmikexx 08-24-2006 02:43 PM

2003 accord v6 auto trans recall
 
I bought a 2003 honda accord coupe v6 used that now has 40k miles. I
just started having problems with the car not wanting to shift into
second gear almost acting like it slips into neutral. after googling
"2003 honda accord recalls" i found that there was a recall for the
auto trans. problem. I found a 1-800 number to call honda, I spoke with
someone at that number who did verify that there is a recall and after
i gave her my VIN number they told me that this vehicle was serviced in
2004. obviously there is still a problem. Then she tells me that since
the car now has 40k miles and is older than 3 years, the factory will
no longer cover this repair!! how can that be if it is a RECALL ! I've
read that the problem is related to heat and is most likely related to
inadaquate <spelling?> transmission oil cooling. Does anyone know how i
should go about getting this resolved without me having to pay out of
pocket? I didnt make the car and if its a manufacturer recall i dont
see why they shouldnt be offering to take care of this for me.

has anyone dealt with similair circumstances purchasing an accord used
and then getting the recall serviced after 3 yr/36K miles?


Elmo P. Shagnasty 08-24-2006 05:47 PM

Re: 2003 accord v6 auto trans recall
 
In article <1156444991.119849.161580@p79g2000cwp.googlegroups .com>,
"mxxmikexx" <mike@specializedcaraudio.com> wrote:

> Then she tells me that since
> the car now has 40k miles and is older than 3 years, the factory will
> no longer cover this repair!! how can that be if it is a RECALL ! I've
> read that the problem is related to heat and is most likely related to
> inadaquate <spelling?> transmission oil cooling. Does anyone know how i
> should go about getting this resolved without me having to pay out of
> pocket?


Call back. Ask again.

Or:

Go to a local, friendly dealer. If he doesn't give you the right
answer, try another local, friendly dealer.

Talk with the service manager. Be nice.

Every Honda dealer has access to goodwill dollars from Honda. Make
friends, give him your business, and the service manager will take care
of you.

I promise you that I will never, ever pay for a transmission repair of
any kind on my 02 Odyssey, no matter what, thanks to (a) my relationship
with my dealer, and (b) Honda's widely known problems with transmissions
hooked to V6 engines, systems that were made from 98 through mid-04.

It was the largest recall ever for Honda, something like $360 million.
They are eager to take care of their customers and get rid of this mess.
They do NOT want to be known as "oh yeah, Honda, they used to be good,
now they're just another Chrysler".


Elmo P. Shagnasty 08-24-2006 05:47 PM

Re: 2003 accord v6 auto trans recall
 
In article <1156444991.119849.161580@p79g2000cwp.googlegroups .com>,
"mxxmikexx" <mike@specializedcaraudio.com> wrote:

> Then she tells me that since
> the car now has 40k miles and is older than 3 years, the factory will
> no longer cover this repair!! how can that be if it is a RECALL ! I've
> read that the problem is related to heat and is most likely related to
> inadaquate <spelling?> transmission oil cooling. Does anyone know how i
> should go about getting this resolved without me having to pay out of
> pocket?


Call back. Ask again.

Or:

Go to a local, friendly dealer. If he doesn't give you the right
answer, try another local, friendly dealer.

Talk with the service manager. Be nice.

Every Honda dealer has access to goodwill dollars from Honda. Make
friends, give him your business, and the service manager will take care
of you.

I promise you that I will never, ever pay for a transmission repair of
any kind on my 02 Odyssey, no matter what, thanks to (a) my relationship
with my dealer, and (b) Honda's widely known problems with transmissions
hooked to V6 engines, systems that were made from 98 through mid-04.

It was the largest recall ever for Honda, something like $360 million.
They are eager to take care of their customers and get rid of this mess.
They do NOT want to be known as "oh yeah, Honda, they used to be good,
now they're just another Chrysler".


Elmo P. Shagnasty 08-24-2006 05:47 PM

Re: 2003 accord v6 auto trans recall
 
In article <1156444991.119849.161580@p79g2000cwp.googlegroups .com>,
"mxxmikexx" <mike@specializedcaraudio.com> wrote:

> Then she tells me that since
> the car now has 40k miles and is older than 3 years, the factory will
> no longer cover this repair!! how can that be if it is a RECALL ! I've
> read that the problem is related to heat and is most likely related to
> inadaquate <spelling?> transmission oil cooling. Does anyone know how i
> should go about getting this resolved without me having to pay out of
> pocket?


Call back. Ask again.

Or:

Go to a local, friendly dealer. If he doesn't give you the right
answer, try another local, friendly dealer.

Talk with the service manager. Be nice.

Every Honda dealer has access to goodwill dollars from Honda. Make
friends, give him your business, and the service manager will take care
of you.

I promise you that I will never, ever pay for a transmission repair of
any kind on my 02 Odyssey, no matter what, thanks to (a) my relationship
with my dealer, and (b) Honda's widely known problems with transmissions
hooked to V6 engines, systems that were made from 98 through mid-04.

It was the largest recall ever for Honda, something like $360 million.
They are eager to take care of their customers and get rid of this mess.
They do NOT want to be known as "oh yeah, Honda, they used to be good,
now they're just another Chrysler".


Elmo P. Shagnasty 08-24-2006 05:47 PM

Re: 2003 accord v6 auto trans recall
 
In article <1156444991.119849.161580@p79g2000cwp.googlegroups .com>,
"mxxmikexx" <mike@specializedcaraudio.com> wrote:

> Then she tells me that since
> the car now has 40k miles and is older than 3 years, the factory will
> no longer cover this repair!! how can that be if it is a RECALL ! I've
> read that the problem is related to heat and is most likely related to
> inadaquate <spelling?> transmission oil cooling. Does anyone know how i
> should go about getting this resolved without me having to pay out of
> pocket?


Call back. Ask again.

Or:

Go to a local, friendly dealer. If he doesn't give you the right
answer, try another local, friendly dealer.

Talk with the service manager. Be nice.

Every Honda dealer has access to goodwill dollars from Honda. Make
friends, give him your business, and the service manager will take care
of you.

I promise you that I will never, ever pay for a transmission repair of
any kind on my 02 Odyssey, no matter what, thanks to (a) my relationship
with my dealer, and (b) Honda's widely known problems with transmissions
hooked to V6 engines, systems that were made from 98 through mid-04.

It was the largest recall ever for Honda, something like $360 million.
They are eager to take care of their customers and get rid of this mess.
They do NOT want to be known as "oh yeah, Honda, they used to be good,
now they're just another Chrysler".


John Horner 08-24-2006 08:34 PM

Re: 2003 accord v6 auto trans recall
 
mxxmikexx wrote:
> I bought a 2003 honda accord coupe v6 used that now has 40k miles. I
> just started having problems with the car not wanting to shift into
> second gear almost acting like it slips into neutral. after googling
> "2003 honda accord recalls" i found that there was a recall for the
> auto trans. problem.


Find out who the best Honda dealer is in your area and go talk to them.
The people answering 800 numbers are rarely the most useful.

Honda has had a lot of problems with some of it's recent transmissions.
Many of them have had 100,000 mile warranties added on by Honda. I
don't know if that applies to the '03 V-6 Accord or not.

John

John Horner 08-24-2006 08:34 PM

Re: 2003 accord v6 auto trans recall
 
mxxmikexx wrote:
> I bought a 2003 honda accord coupe v6 used that now has 40k miles. I
> just started having problems with the car not wanting to shift into
> second gear almost acting like it slips into neutral. after googling
> "2003 honda accord recalls" i found that there was a recall for the
> auto trans. problem.


Find out who the best Honda dealer is in your area and go talk to them.
The people answering 800 numbers are rarely the most useful.

Honda has had a lot of problems with some of it's recent transmissions.
Many of them have had 100,000 mile warranties added on by Honda. I
don't know if that applies to the '03 V-6 Accord or not.

John

John Horner 08-24-2006 08:34 PM

Re: 2003 accord v6 auto trans recall
 
mxxmikexx wrote:
> I bought a 2003 honda accord coupe v6 used that now has 40k miles. I
> just started having problems with the car not wanting to shift into
> second gear almost acting like it slips into neutral. after googling
> "2003 honda accord recalls" i found that there was a recall for the
> auto trans. problem.


Find out who the best Honda dealer is in your area and go talk to them.
The people answering 800 numbers are rarely the most useful.

Honda has had a lot of problems with some of it's recent transmissions.
Many of them have had 100,000 mile warranties added on by Honda. I
don't know if that applies to the '03 V-6 Accord or not.

John

John Horner 08-24-2006 08:34 PM

Re: 2003 accord v6 auto trans recall
 
mxxmikexx wrote:
> I bought a 2003 honda accord coupe v6 used that now has 40k miles. I
> just started having problems with the car not wanting to shift into
> second gear almost acting like it slips into neutral. after googling
> "2003 honda accord recalls" i found that there was a recall for the
> auto trans. problem.


Find out who the best Honda dealer is in your area and go talk to them.
The people answering 800 numbers are rarely the most useful.

Honda has had a lot of problems with some of it's recent transmissions.
Many of them have had 100,000 mile warranties added on by Honda. I
don't know if that applies to the '03 V-6 Accord or not.

John

Gordon McGrew 08-25-2006 04:37 PM

Re: 2003 accord v6 auto trans recall
 
On Thu, 24 Aug 2006 17:47:44 -0400, "Elmo P. Shagnasty"
<elmop@nastydesigns.com> wrote:

>In article <1156444991.119849.161580@p79g2000cwp.googlegroups .com>,
> "mxxmikexx" <mike@specializedcaraudio.com> wrote:
>
>> Then she tells me that since
>> the car now has 40k miles and is older than 3 years, the factory will
>> no longer cover this repair!! how can that be if it is a RECALL ! I've
>> read that the problem is related to heat and is most likely related to
>> inadaquate <spelling?> transmission oil cooling. Does anyone know how i
>> should go about getting this resolved without me having to pay out of
>> pocket?

>
>Call back. Ask again.
>
>Or:
>
>Go to a local, friendly dealer. If he doesn't give you the right
>answer, try another local, friendly dealer.
>
>Talk with the service manager. Be nice.
>
>Every Honda dealer has access to goodwill dollars from Honda. Make
>friends, give him your business, and the service manager will take care
>of you.
>
>I promise you that I will never, ever pay for a transmission repair of
>any kind on my 02 Odyssey, no matter what, thanks to (a) my relationship
>with my dealer, and (b) Honda's widely known problems with transmissions
>hooked to V6 engines, systems that were made from 98 through mid-04.
>
>It was the largest recall ever for Honda, something like $360 million.
>They are eager to take care of their customers and get rid of this mess.
>They do NOT want to be known as "oh yeah, Honda, they used to be good,
>now they're just another Chrysler".


I don't think this was a recall but rather a warranty extension to
acknowledge that there was a problem with the transmission. As such
Honda has no obligation beyond the original warranty period. But as
you point out, they have been generous in the past in extending the
warranty up to 100K on certain models. Beyond that you would have to
be a pretty good customer, I think.

What happened in mid-04? Is it a new transmission or just another fix
on the old one?




Gordon McGrew 08-25-2006 04:37 PM

Re: 2003 accord v6 auto trans recall
 
On Thu, 24 Aug 2006 17:47:44 -0400, "Elmo P. Shagnasty"
<elmop@nastydesigns.com> wrote:

>In article <1156444991.119849.161580@p79g2000cwp.googlegroups .com>,
> "mxxmikexx" <mike@specializedcaraudio.com> wrote:
>
>> Then she tells me that since
>> the car now has 40k miles and is older than 3 years, the factory will
>> no longer cover this repair!! how can that be if it is a RECALL ! I've
>> read that the problem is related to heat and is most likely related to
>> inadaquate <spelling?> transmission oil cooling. Does anyone know how i
>> should go about getting this resolved without me having to pay out of
>> pocket?

>
>Call back. Ask again.
>
>Or:
>
>Go to a local, friendly dealer. If he doesn't give you the right
>answer, try another local, friendly dealer.
>
>Talk with the service manager. Be nice.
>
>Every Honda dealer has access to goodwill dollars from Honda. Make
>friends, give him your business, and the service manager will take care
>of you.
>
>I promise you that I will never, ever pay for a transmission repair of
>any kind on my 02 Odyssey, no matter what, thanks to (a) my relationship
>with my dealer, and (b) Honda's widely known problems with transmissions
>hooked to V6 engines, systems that were made from 98 through mid-04.
>
>It was the largest recall ever for Honda, something like $360 million.
>They are eager to take care of their customers and get rid of this mess.
>They do NOT want to be known as "oh yeah, Honda, they used to be good,
>now they're just another Chrysler".


I don't think this was a recall but rather a warranty extension to
acknowledge that there was a problem with the transmission. As such
Honda has no obligation beyond the original warranty period. But as
you point out, they have been generous in the past in extending the
warranty up to 100K on certain models. Beyond that you would have to
be a pretty good customer, I think.

What happened in mid-04? Is it a new transmission or just another fix
on the old one?




Gordon McGrew 08-25-2006 04:37 PM

Re: 2003 accord v6 auto trans recall
 
On Thu, 24 Aug 2006 17:47:44 -0400, "Elmo P. Shagnasty"
<elmop@nastydesigns.com> wrote:

>In article <1156444991.119849.161580@p79g2000cwp.googlegroups .com>,
> "mxxmikexx" <mike@specializedcaraudio.com> wrote:
>
>> Then she tells me that since
>> the car now has 40k miles and is older than 3 years, the factory will
>> no longer cover this repair!! how can that be if it is a RECALL ! I've
>> read that the problem is related to heat and is most likely related to
>> inadaquate <spelling?> transmission oil cooling. Does anyone know how i
>> should go about getting this resolved without me having to pay out of
>> pocket?

>
>Call back. Ask again.
>
>Or:
>
>Go to a local, friendly dealer. If he doesn't give you the right
>answer, try another local, friendly dealer.
>
>Talk with the service manager. Be nice.
>
>Every Honda dealer has access to goodwill dollars from Honda. Make
>friends, give him your business, and the service manager will take care
>of you.
>
>I promise you that I will never, ever pay for a transmission repair of
>any kind on my 02 Odyssey, no matter what, thanks to (a) my relationship
>with my dealer, and (b) Honda's widely known problems with transmissions
>hooked to V6 engines, systems that were made from 98 through mid-04.
>
>It was the largest recall ever for Honda, something like $360 million.
>They are eager to take care of their customers and get rid of this mess.
>They do NOT want to be known as "oh yeah, Honda, they used to be good,
>now they're just another Chrysler".


I don't think this was a recall but rather a warranty extension to
acknowledge that there was a problem with the transmission. As such
Honda has no obligation beyond the original warranty period. But as
you point out, they have been generous in the past in extending the
warranty up to 100K on certain models. Beyond that you would have to
be a pretty good customer, I think.

What happened in mid-04? Is it a new transmission or just another fix
on the old one?




Gordon McGrew 08-25-2006 04:37 PM

Re: 2003 accord v6 auto trans recall
 
On Thu, 24 Aug 2006 17:47:44 -0400, "Elmo P. Shagnasty"
<elmop@nastydesigns.com> wrote:

>In article <1156444991.119849.161580@p79g2000cwp.googlegroups .com>,
> "mxxmikexx" <mike@specializedcaraudio.com> wrote:
>
>> Then she tells me that since
>> the car now has 40k miles and is older than 3 years, the factory will
>> no longer cover this repair!! how can that be if it is a RECALL ! I've
>> read that the problem is related to heat and is most likely related to
>> inadaquate <spelling?> transmission oil cooling. Does anyone know how i
>> should go about getting this resolved without me having to pay out of
>> pocket?

>
>Call back. Ask again.
>
>Or:
>
>Go to a local, friendly dealer. If he doesn't give you the right
>answer, try another local, friendly dealer.
>
>Talk with the service manager. Be nice.
>
>Every Honda dealer has access to goodwill dollars from Honda. Make
>friends, give him your business, and the service manager will take care
>of you.
>
>I promise you that I will never, ever pay for a transmission repair of
>any kind on my 02 Odyssey, no matter what, thanks to (a) my relationship
>with my dealer, and (b) Honda's widely known problems with transmissions
>hooked to V6 engines, systems that were made from 98 through mid-04.
>
>It was the largest recall ever for Honda, something like $360 million.
>They are eager to take care of their customers and get rid of this mess.
>They do NOT want to be known as "oh yeah, Honda, they used to be good,
>now they're just another Chrysler".


I don't think this was a recall but rather a warranty extension to
acknowledge that there was a problem with the transmission. As such
Honda has no obligation beyond the original warranty period. But as
you point out, they have been generous in the past in extending the
warranty up to 100K on certain models. Beyond that you would have to
be a pretty good customer, I think.

What happened in mid-04? Is it a new transmission or just another fix
on the old one?




John Horner 08-25-2006 05:14 PM

Re: 2003 accord v6 auto trans recall
 
Gordon McGrew wrote:
> On Thu, 24 Aug 2006 17:47:44 -0400, "Elmo P. Shagnasty"
> <elmop@nastydesigns.com> wrote:
>
>> In article <1156444991.119849.161580@p79g2000cwp.googlegroups .com>,
>> "mxxmikexx" <mike@specializedcaraudio.com> wrote:
>>
>>> Then she tells me that since
>>> the car now has 40k miles and is older than 3 years, the factory will
>>> no longer cover this repair!! how can that be if it is a RECALL ! I've
>>> read that the problem is related to heat and is most likely related to
>>> inadaquate <spelling?> transmission oil cooling. Does anyone know how i
>>> should go about getting this resolved without me having to pay out of
>>> pocket?

>> Call back. Ask again.
>>
>> Or:
>>
>> Go to a local, friendly dealer. If he doesn't give you the right
>> answer, try another local, friendly dealer.
>>
>> Talk with the service manager. Be nice.
>>
>> Every Honda dealer has access to goodwill dollars from Honda. Make
>> friends, give him your business, and the service manager will take care
>> of you.
>>
>> I promise you that I will never, ever pay for a transmission repair of
>> any kind on my 02 Odyssey, no matter what, thanks to (a) my relationship
>> with my dealer, and (b) Honda's widely known problems with transmissions
>> hooked to V6 engines, systems that were made from 98 through mid-04.
>>
>> It was the largest recall ever for Honda, something like $360 million.
>> They are eager to take care of their customers and get rid of this mess.
>> They do NOT want to be known as "oh yeah, Honda, they used to be good,
>> now they're just another Chrysler".

>
> I don't think this was a recall but rather a warranty extension to
> acknowledge that there was a problem with the transmission. As such



The recall was to add a band-aid fix which is supposed to improve
lubrication of a high wear internal part.

John

John Horner 08-25-2006 05:14 PM

Re: 2003 accord v6 auto trans recall
 
Gordon McGrew wrote:
> On Thu, 24 Aug 2006 17:47:44 -0400, "Elmo P. Shagnasty"
> <elmop@nastydesigns.com> wrote:
>
>> In article <1156444991.119849.161580@p79g2000cwp.googlegroups .com>,
>> "mxxmikexx" <mike@specializedcaraudio.com> wrote:
>>
>>> Then she tells me that since
>>> the car now has 40k miles and is older than 3 years, the factory will
>>> no longer cover this repair!! how can that be if it is a RECALL ! I've
>>> read that the problem is related to heat and is most likely related to
>>> inadaquate <spelling?> transmission oil cooling. Does anyone know how i
>>> should go about getting this resolved without me having to pay out of
>>> pocket?

>> Call back. Ask again.
>>
>> Or:
>>
>> Go to a local, friendly dealer. If he doesn't give you the right
>> answer, try another local, friendly dealer.
>>
>> Talk with the service manager. Be nice.
>>
>> Every Honda dealer has access to goodwill dollars from Honda. Make
>> friends, give him your business, and the service manager will take care
>> of you.
>>
>> I promise you that I will never, ever pay for a transmission repair of
>> any kind on my 02 Odyssey, no matter what, thanks to (a) my relationship
>> with my dealer, and (b) Honda's widely known problems with transmissions
>> hooked to V6 engines, systems that were made from 98 through mid-04.
>>
>> It was the largest recall ever for Honda, something like $360 million.
>> They are eager to take care of their customers and get rid of this mess.
>> They do NOT want to be known as "oh yeah, Honda, they used to be good,
>> now they're just another Chrysler".

>
> I don't think this was a recall but rather a warranty extension to
> acknowledge that there was a problem with the transmission. As such



The recall was to add a band-aid fix which is supposed to improve
lubrication of a high wear internal part.

John


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