Re: 2003 accord v6 auto trans recall
 

John Horner wrote:
> mxxmikexx wrote:
>> I bought a 2003 honda accord coupe v6 used that now has 40k miles. I
>> just started having problems with the car not wanting to shift into
>> second gear almost acting like it slips into neutral. after googling
>> "2003 honda accord recalls" i found that there was a recall for the
>> auto trans. problem.
>
> Find out who the best Honda dealer is in your area and go talk to
> them. The people answering 800 numbers are rarely the most useful.
>
> Honda has had a lot of problems with some of it's recent
> transmissions. Many of them have had 100,000 mile warranties added
> on by Honda. I don't know if that applies to the '03 V-6 Accord or
> not.
> John

Yes, it would include this vehicle. My 2001 and 2004 6 cyl is covered.

Re: 2003 accord v6 auto trans recall
 

John Horner wrote:
> mxxmikexx wrote:
>> I bought a 2003 honda accord coupe v6 used that now has 40k miles. I
>> just started having problems with the car not wanting to shift into
>> second gear almost acting like it slips into neutral. after googling
>> "2003 honda accord recalls" i found that there was a recall for the
>> auto trans. problem.
>
> Find out who the best Honda dealer is in your area and go talk to
> them. The people answering 800 numbers are rarely the most useful.
>
> Honda has had a lot of problems with some of it's recent
> transmissions. Many of them have had 100,000 mile warranties added
> on by Honda. I don't know if that applies to the '03 V-6 Accord or
> not.
> John

Yes, it would include this vehicle. My 2001 and 2004 6 cyl is covered.

Re: 2003 accord v6 auto trans recall
 

John Horner wrote:
> mxxmikexx wrote:
>> I bought a 2003 honda accord coupe v6 used that now has 40k miles. I
>> just started having problems with the car not wanting to shift into
>> second gear almost acting like it slips into neutral. after googling
>> "2003 honda accord recalls" i found that there was a recall for the
>> auto trans. problem.
>
> Find out who the best Honda dealer is in your area and go talk to
> them. The people answering 800 numbers are rarely the most useful.
>
> Honda has had a lot of problems with some of it's recent
> transmissions. Many of them have had 100,000 mile warranties added
> on by Honda. I don't know if that applies to the '03 V-6 Accord or
> not.
> John

Yes, it would include this vehicle. My 2001 and 2004 6 cyl is covered.

Re: 2003 accord v6 auto trans recall
 

In article <Dc3Ig.3979$q63.2864@newssvr13.news.prodigy.com> ,
"L Alpert" <alpertl@xxgmail.com> wrote:

> > What happened in mid-04? Is it a new transmission or just another fix
> > on the old one?
>
> From what I understand, the recall was a service to add some extra cooling
> line for the trans (as well as the extended warranty). If car had over a
> certain mileage, they were supposed to pull it apart and look for signs of
> fatigue from overheating before adding the fix.

See my previous posts.

They screwed up the 4 speed auto trannies that were hooked to V6
engines. All of them, starting in the 98 model year. (The auto
trannies hooked to 4 cylinder engines were not affected by this screwup.)

The affected cars--Honda Accords, Honda Odysseys, and the V6 Acura
models--got (and still get) extended warranties and generous treatment
from Honda and its dealers.

In the 02 model year, they started with the changeover to a 5 speed
automatic trans. Different trans completely. The 02 Odyssey was the
first one to get this, then the 03 Accord, and the Acuras as they
changed over models. And guess what? In 04, they discovered that they
screwed that one up, too--in a different way. 2nd gear wasn't getting
sufficient lubrication. Again, this is the trans that hooks to the V6
engines.

For this campaign, they have the tech look at the tranny through the
fill hole, using a still camera. He takes several pictures and compares
them to a printout from Honda. If the gear shows no evidence of heat
scoring, the tech puts on a modification that routes some return fluid
back in through that hole to bathe the gear.

If, however, the gear does show any sign of heat scoring, the tech sends
the pictures to Honda for evaluation. Honda responds by sending back
either of (a) a lubrication mod kit, or (b) a rebuilt (new, really)
transmission.

In no case does the tech "tear apart" the transmission. Honda dealer
techs do not do transmission repairs; they treat it as a single unit and
replace it if need be.

Re: 2003 accord v6 auto trans recall
 

In article <Dc3Ig.3979$q63.2864@newssvr13.news.prodigy.com> ,
"L Alpert" <alpertl@xxgmail.com> wrote:

> > What happened in mid-04? Is it a new transmission or just another fix
> > on the old one?
>
> From what I understand, the recall was a service to add some extra cooling
> line for the trans (as well as the extended warranty). If car had over a
> certain mileage, they were supposed to pull it apart and look for signs of
> fatigue from overheating before adding the fix.

See my previous posts.

They screwed up the 4 speed auto trannies that were hooked to V6
engines. All of them, starting in the 98 model year. (The auto
trannies hooked to 4 cylinder engines were not affected by this screwup.)

The affected cars--Honda Accords, Honda Odysseys, and the V6 Acura
models--got (and still get) extended warranties and generous treatment
from Honda and its dealers.

In the 02 model year, they started with the changeover to a 5 speed
automatic trans. Different trans completely. The 02 Odyssey was the
first one to get this, then the 03 Accord, and the Acuras as they
changed over models. And guess what? In 04, they discovered that they
screwed that one up, too--in a different way. 2nd gear wasn't getting
sufficient lubrication. Again, this is the trans that hooks to the V6
engines.

For this campaign, they have the tech look at the tranny through the
fill hole, using a still camera. He takes several pictures and compares
them to a printout from Honda. If the gear shows no evidence of heat
scoring, the tech puts on a modification that routes some return fluid
back in through that hole to bathe the gear.

If, however, the gear does show any sign of heat scoring, the tech sends
the pictures to Honda for evaluation. Honda responds by sending back
either of (a) a lubrication mod kit, or (b) a rebuilt (new, really)
transmission.

In no case does the tech "tear apart" the transmission. Honda dealer
techs do not do transmission repairs; they treat it as a single unit and
replace it if need be.

Re: 2003 accord v6 auto trans recall
 

In article <Dc3Ig.3979$q63.2864@newssvr13.news.prodigy.com> ,
"L Alpert" <alpertl@xxgmail.com> wrote:

> > What happened in mid-04? Is it a new transmission or just another fix
> > on the old one?
>
> From what I understand, the recall was a service to add some extra cooling
> line for the trans (as well as the extended warranty). If car had over a
> certain mileage, they were supposed to pull it apart and look for signs of
> fatigue from overheating before adding the fix.

See my previous posts.

They screwed up the 4 speed auto trannies that were hooked to V6
engines. All of them, starting in the 98 model year. (The auto
trannies hooked to 4 cylinder engines were not affected by this screwup.)

The affected cars--Honda Accords, Honda Odysseys, and the V6 Acura
models--got (and still get) extended warranties and generous treatment
from Honda and its dealers.

In the 02 model year, they started with the changeover to a 5 speed
automatic trans. Different trans completely. The 02 Odyssey was the
first one to get this, then the 03 Accord, and the Acuras as they
changed over models. And guess what? In 04, they discovered that they
screwed that one up, too--in a different way. 2nd gear wasn't getting
sufficient lubrication. Again, this is the trans that hooks to the V6
engines.

For this campaign, they have the tech look at the tranny through the
fill hole, using a still camera. He takes several pictures and compares
them to a printout from Honda. If the gear shows no evidence of heat
scoring, the tech puts on a modification that routes some return fluid
back in through that hole to bathe the gear.

If, however, the gear does show any sign of heat scoring, the tech sends
the pictures to Honda for evaluation. Honda responds by sending back
either of (a) a lubrication mod kit, or (b) a rebuilt (new, really)
transmission.

In no case does the tech "tear apart" the transmission. Honda dealer
techs do not do transmission repairs; they treat it as a single unit and
replace it if need be.

Re: 2003 accord v6 auto trans recall
 

In article <Dc3Ig.3979$q63.2864@newssvr13.news.prodigy.com> ,
"L Alpert" <alpertl@xxgmail.com> wrote:

> > What happened in mid-04? Is it a new transmission or just another fix
> > on the old one?
>
> From what I understand, the recall was a service to add some extra cooling
> line for the trans (as well as the extended warranty). If car had over a
> certain mileage, they were supposed to pull it apart and look for signs of
> fatigue from overheating before adding the fix.

See my previous posts.

They screwed up the 4 speed auto trannies that were hooked to V6
engines. All of them, starting in the 98 model year. (The auto
trannies hooked to 4 cylinder engines were not affected by this screwup.)

The affected cars--Honda Accords, Honda Odysseys, and the V6 Acura
models--got (and still get) extended warranties and generous treatment
from Honda and its dealers.

In the 02 model year, they started with the changeover to a 5 speed
automatic trans. Different trans completely. The 02 Odyssey was the
first one to get this, then the 03 Accord, and the Acuras as they
changed over models. And guess what? In 04, they discovered that they
screwed that one up, too--in a different way. 2nd gear wasn't getting
sufficient lubrication. Again, this is the trans that hooks to the V6
engines.

For this campaign, they have the tech look at the tranny through the
fill hole, using a still camera. He takes several pictures and compares
them to a printout from Honda. If the gear shows no evidence of heat
scoring, the tech puts on a modification that routes some return fluid
back in through that hole to bathe the gear.

If, however, the gear does show any sign of heat scoring, the tech sends
the pictures to Honda for evaluation. Honda responds by sending back
either of (a) a lubrication mod kit, or (b) a rebuilt (new, really)
transmission.

In no case does the tech "tear apart" the transmission. Honda dealer
techs do not do transmission repairs; they treat it as a single unit and
replace it if need be.

Re: 2003 accord v6 auto trans recall
 

Elmo P. Shagnasty wrote:
> In article <Dc3Ig.3979$q63.2864@newssvr13.news.prodigy.com> ,
> "L Alpert" <alpertl@xxgmail.com> wrote:
>
>>> What happened in mid-04? Is it a new transmission or just another
>>> fix on the old one?
>>
>> From what I understand, the recall was a service to add some extra
>> cooling line for the trans (as well as the extended warranty). If
>> car had over a certain mileage, they were supposed to pull it apart
>> and look for signs of fatigue from overheating before adding the fix.
>
> See my previous posts.
>
> They screwed up the 4 speed auto trannies that were hooked to V6
> engines. All of them, starting in the 98 model year. (The auto
> trannies hooked to 4 cylinder engines were not affected by this
> screwup.)
>
> The affected cars--Honda Accords, Honda Odysseys, and the V6 Acura
> models--got (and still get) extended warranties and generous treatment
> from Honda and its dealers.
>
> In the 02 model year, they started with the changeover to a 5 speed
> automatic trans. Different trans completely. The 02 Odyssey was the
> first one to get this, then the 03 Accord, and the Acuras as they
> changed over models. And guess what? In 04, they discovered that
> they screwed that one up, too--in a different way. 2nd gear wasn't
> getting sufficient lubrication. Again, this is the trans that hooks
> to the V6 engines.
>
> For this campaign, they have the tech look at the tranny through the
> fill hole, using a still camera. He takes several pictures and
> compares them to a printout from Honda. If the gear shows no
> evidence of heat scoring, the tech puts on a modification that routes
> some return fluid back in through that hole to bathe the gear.
>
> If, however, the gear does show any sign of heat scoring, the tech
> sends the pictures to Honda for evaluation. Honda responds by
> sending back either of (a) a lubrication mod kit, or (b) a rebuilt
> (new, really) transmission.
>
> In no case does the tech "tear apart" the transmission. Honda dealer
> techs do not do transmission repairs; they treat it as a single unit
> and replace it if need be.

Yes, I see they don't actually tear it down, but at least they do a visual
check, though of course, the visual will not be 100%, but it will pick up
most of the potential failures.

I'm sure they have calculated how many failures they will most likely get
with this approach that would be under the new extended warranty and
compared that to the costs of taking each one apart.

Re: 2003 accord v6 auto trans recall
 

Elmo P. Shagnasty wrote:
> In article <Dc3Ig.3979$q63.2864@newssvr13.news.prodigy.com> ,
> "L Alpert" <alpertl@xxgmail.com> wrote:
>
>>> What happened in mid-04? Is it a new transmission or just another
>>> fix on the old one?
>>
>> From what I understand, the recall was a service to add some extra
>> cooling line for the trans (as well as the extended warranty). If
>> car had over a certain mileage, they were supposed to pull it apart
>> and look for signs of fatigue from overheating before adding the fix.
>
> See my previous posts.
>
> They screwed up the 4 speed auto trannies that were hooked to V6
> engines. All of them, starting in the 98 model year. (The auto
> trannies hooked to 4 cylinder engines were not affected by this
> screwup.)
>
> The affected cars--Honda Accords, Honda Odysseys, and the V6 Acura
> models--got (and still get) extended warranties and generous treatment
> from Honda and its dealers.
>
> In the 02 model year, they started with the changeover to a 5 speed
> automatic trans. Different trans completely. The 02 Odyssey was the
> first one to get this, then the 03 Accord, and the Acuras as they
> changed over models. And guess what? In 04, they discovered that
> they screwed that one up, too--in a different way. 2nd gear wasn't
> getting sufficient lubrication. Again, this is the trans that hooks
> to the V6 engines.
>
> For this campaign, they have the tech look at the tranny through the
> fill hole, using a still camera. He takes several pictures and
> compares them to a printout from Honda. If the gear shows no
> evidence of heat scoring, the tech puts on a modification that routes
> some return fluid back in through that hole to bathe the gear.
>
> If, however, the gear does show any sign of heat scoring, the tech
> sends the pictures to Honda for evaluation. Honda responds by
> sending back either of (a) a lubrication mod kit, or (b) a rebuilt
> (new, really) transmission.
>
> In no case does the tech "tear apart" the transmission. Honda dealer
> techs do not do transmission repairs; they treat it as a single unit
> and replace it if need be.

Yes, I see they don't actually tear it down, but at least they do a visual
check, though of course, the visual will not be 100%, but it will pick up
most of the potential failures.

I'm sure they have calculated how many failures they will most likely get
with this approach that would be under the new extended warranty and
compared that to the costs of taking each one apart.

Re: 2003 accord v6 auto trans recall
 

Elmo P. Shagnasty wrote:
> In article <Dc3Ig.3979$q63.2864@newssvr13.news.prodigy.com> ,
> "L Alpert" <alpertl@xxgmail.com> wrote:
>
>>> What happened in mid-04? Is it a new transmission or just another
>>> fix on the old one?
>>
>> From what I understand, the recall was a service to add some extra
>> cooling line for the trans (as well as the extended warranty). If
>> car had over a certain mileage, they were supposed to pull it apart
>> and look for signs of fatigue from overheating before adding the fix.
>
> See my previous posts.
>
> They screwed up the 4 speed auto trannies that were hooked to V6
> engines. All of them, starting in the 98 model year. (The auto
> trannies hooked to 4 cylinder engines were not affected by this
> screwup.)
>
> The affected cars--Honda Accords, Honda Odysseys, and the V6 Acura
> models--got (and still get) extended warranties and generous treatment
> from Honda and its dealers.
>
> In the 02 model year, they started with the changeover to a 5 speed
> automatic trans. Different trans completely. The 02 Odyssey was the
> first one to get this, then the 03 Accord, and the Acuras as they
> changed over models. And guess what? In 04, they discovered that
> they screwed that one up, too--in a different way. 2nd gear wasn't
> getting sufficient lubrication. Again, this is the trans that hooks
> to the V6 engines.
>
> For this campaign, they have the tech look at the tranny through the
> fill hole, using a still camera. He takes several pictures and
> compares them to a printout from Honda. If the gear shows no
> evidence of heat scoring, the tech puts on a modification that routes
> some return fluid back in through that hole to bathe the gear.
>
> If, however, the gear does show any sign of heat scoring, the tech
> sends the pictures to Honda for evaluation. Honda responds by
> sending back either of (a) a lubrication mod kit, or (b) a rebuilt
> (new, really) transmission.
>
> In no case does the tech "tear apart" the transmission. Honda dealer
> techs do not do transmission repairs; they treat it as a single unit
> and replace it if need be.

Yes, I see they don't actually tear it down, but at least they do a visual
check, though of course, the visual will not be 100%, but it will pick up
most of the potential failures.

I'm sure they have calculated how many failures they will most likely get
with this approach that would be under the new extended warranty and
compared that to the costs of taking each one apart.

Re: 2003 accord v6 auto trans recall
 

Elmo P. Shagnasty wrote:
> In article <Dc3Ig.3979$q63.2864@newssvr13.news.prodigy.com> ,
> "L Alpert" <alpertl@xxgmail.com> wrote:
>
>>> What happened in mid-04? Is it a new transmission or just another
>>> fix on the old one?
>>
>> From what I understand, the recall was a service to add some extra
>> cooling line for the trans (as well as the extended warranty). If
>> car had over a certain mileage, they were supposed to pull it apart
>> and look for signs of fatigue from overheating before adding the fix.
>
> See my previous posts.
>
> They screwed up the 4 speed auto trannies that were hooked to V6
> engines. All of them, starting in the 98 model year. (The auto
> trannies hooked to 4 cylinder engines were not affected by this
> screwup.)
>
> The affected cars--Honda Accords, Honda Odysseys, and the V6 Acura
> models--got (and still get) extended warranties and generous treatment
> from Honda and its dealers.
>
> In the 02 model year, they started with the changeover to a 5 speed
> automatic trans. Different trans completely. The 02 Odyssey was the
> first one to get this, then the 03 Accord, and the Acuras as they
> changed over models. And guess what? In 04, they discovered that
> they screwed that one up, too--in a different way. 2nd gear wasn't
> getting sufficient lubrication. Again, this is the trans that hooks
> to the V6 engines.
>
> For this campaign, they have the tech look at the tranny through the
> fill hole, using a still camera. He takes several pictures and
> compares them to a printout from Honda. If the gear shows no
> evidence of heat scoring, the tech puts on a modification that routes
> some return fluid back in through that hole to bathe the gear.
>
> If, however, the gear does show any sign of heat scoring, the tech
> sends the pictures to Honda for evaluation. Honda responds by
> sending back either of (a) a lubrication mod kit, or (b) a rebuilt
> (new, really) transmission.
>
> In no case does the tech "tear apart" the transmission. Honda dealer
> techs do not do transmission repairs; they treat it as a single unit
> and replace it if need be.

Yes, I see they don't actually tear it down, but at least they do a visual
check, though of course, the visual will not be 100%, but it will pick up
most of the potential failures.

I'm sure they have calculated how many failures they will most likely get
with this approach that would be under the new extended warranty and
compared that to the costs of taking each one apart.