2003 CR-V engine feels very heavy
I have owned six cars so far. 4 gas and 2 diesel. I have never felt an
engine as heavy as the CR-V. Even a diesel engine, which has a lot of engine braking, does not slow a car down as much as the i-VTEC does. I keep asking the dealership to check the engine out everytime I take it in for service but they haven't found anything wrong. I do about 50 miles of highway everyday and I'm consistently getting less than 23mpg. Is it normal? Also I notice a burning smell from the rear wheel on the passenger's side. I think it comes from the brake disc because it feels very hot when I touch it. Then I was told that there was not excessive wear on the brakes. What can be wrong? Ford Cortina Mark III Citreon BX Fiat Ritmo Turbo Diesel BMW 318tds Subaru Legacy Honda CR-V |
Re: 2003 CR-V engine feels very heavy
"LC" <LC@NoSpam.com> wrote in message news:3adSd.27727$sR5.14992@trndny05...
>I have owned six cars so far. 4 gas and 2 diesel. I have never felt an >engine as heavy as the CR-V. Even a diesel engine, which has a lot of >engine braking, does not slow a car down as much as the i-VTEC does. I keep >asking the dealership to check the engine out everytime I take it in for >service but they haven't found anything wrong. I do about 50 miles of >highway everyday and I'm consistently getting less than 23mpg. Is it >normal? > > Also I notice a burning smell from the rear wheel on the passenger's side. > I think it comes from the brake disc because it feels very hot when I > touch it. Then I was told that there was not excessive wear on the brakes. > What can be wrong? > > > Ford Cortina Mark III > Citreon BX > Fiat Ritmo Turbo Diesel > BMW 318tds > Subaru Legacy > Honda CR-V > > You can check the brake drag on the wheel by jacking it up and turning the wheel by hand. If you give the wheel a spin by hand and count the number of revolutions it makes, then compare it with the other rear wheel, you will find out if the brake is dragging. Sometimes the slide pin lubrication gives out and the pads don't back away from the disk. Feeling the heat there is suspicious at least. Mike |
Re: 2003 CR-V engine feels very heavy
"LC" <LC@NoSpam.com> wrote in message news:3adSd.27727$sR5.14992@trndny05...
>I have owned six cars so far. 4 gas and 2 diesel. I have never felt an >engine as heavy as the CR-V. Even a diesel engine, which has a lot of >engine braking, does not slow a car down as much as the i-VTEC does. I keep >asking the dealership to check the engine out everytime I take it in for >service but they haven't found anything wrong. I do about 50 miles of >highway everyday and I'm consistently getting less than 23mpg. Is it >normal? > > Also I notice a burning smell from the rear wheel on the passenger's side. > I think it comes from the brake disc because it feels very hot when I > touch it. Then I was told that there was not excessive wear on the brakes. > What can be wrong? > > > Ford Cortina Mark III > Citreon BX > Fiat Ritmo Turbo Diesel > BMW 318tds > Subaru Legacy > Honda CR-V > > You can check the brake drag on the wheel by jacking it up and turning the wheel by hand. If you give the wheel a spin by hand and count the number of revolutions it makes, then compare it with the other rear wheel, you will find out if the brake is dragging. Sometimes the slide pin lubrication gives out and the pads don't back away from the disk. Feeling the heat there is suspicious at least. Mike |
Re: 2003 CR-V engine feels very heavy
Thanks for the tip. I sure will try it out before taking it in for the next
service. Do other CR-V owners find their cars heavy? "Michael Pardee" <michaeltnull@cybertrails.com> wrote in message news:TumdnS5jNeTF_oTfRVn-vw@sedona.net... > "LC" <LC@NoSpam.com> wrote in message > news:3adSd.27727$sR5.14992@trndny05... >>I have owned six cars so far. 4 gas and 2 diesel. I have never felt an >>engine as heavy as the CR-V. Even a diesel engine, which has a lot of >>engine braking, does not slow a car down as much as the i-VTEC does. I >>keep asking the dealership to check the engine out everytime I take it in >>for service but they haven't found anything wrong. I do about 50 miles of >>highway everyday and I'm consistently getting less than 23mpg. Is it >>normal? >> >> Also I notice a burning smell from the rear wheel on the passenger's >> side. I think it comes from the brake disc because it feels very hot when >> I touch it. Then I was told that there was not excessive wear on the >> brakes. What can be wrong? >> >> >> Ford Cortina Mark III >> Citreon BX >> Fiat Ritmo Turbo Diesel >> BMW 318tds >> Subaru Legacy >> Honda CR-V >> >> > You can check the brake drag on the wheel by jacking it up and turning the > wheel by hand. If you give the wheel a spin by hand and count the number > of revolutions it makes, then compare it with the other rear wheel, you > will find out if the brake is dragging. Sometimes the slide pin > lubrication gives out and the pads don't back away from the disk. Feeling > the heat there is suspicious at least. > > Mike > |
Re: 2003 CR-V engine feels very heavy
Thanks for the tip. I sure will try it out before taking it in for the next
service. Do other CR-V owners find their cars heavy? "Michael Pardee" <michaeltnull@cybertrails.com> wrote in message news:TumdnS5jNeTF_oTfRVn-vw@sedona.net... > "LC" <LC@NoSpam.com> wrote in message > news:3adSd.27727$sR5.14992@trndny05... >>I have owned six cars so far. 4 gas and 2 diesel. I have never felt an >>engine as heavy as the CR-V. Even a diesel engine, which has a lot of >>engine braking, does not slow a car down as much as the i-VTEC does. I >>keep asking the dealership to check the engine out everytime I take it in >>for service but they haven't found anything wrong. I do about 50 miles of >>highway everyday and I'm consistently getting less than 23mpg. Is it >>normal? >> >> Also I notice a burning smell from the rear wheel on the passenger's >> side. I think it comes from the brake disc because it feels very hot when >> I touch it. Then I was told that there was not excessive wear on the >> brakes. What can be wrong? >> >> >> Ford Cortina Mark III >> Citreon BX >> Fiat Ritmo Turbo Diesel >> BMW 318tds >> Subaru Legacy >> Honda CR-V >> >> > You can check the brake drag on the wheel by jacking it up and turning the > wheel by hand. If you give the wheel a spin by hand and count the number > of revolutions it makes, then compare it with the other rear wheel, you > will find out if the brake is dragging. Sometimes the slide pin > lubrication gives out and the pads don't back away from the disk. Feeling > the heat there is suspicious at least. > > Mike > |
Re: 2003 CR-V engine feels very heavy
"LC" <LC@NoSpam.com> wrote in message news:QMdSd.27807$ya6.5293@trndny01... > Thanks for the tip. I sure will try it out before taking it in for the next > service. > > Do other CR-V owners find their cars heavy? Yes, but just lately. I have a 2003 EX with about 17K on it. It seems to feel like the tires are way underinflated (they're not) or the brakes are dragging (again, they're not). Was starting to think it was just me. |
Re: 2003 CR-V engine feels very heavy
"LC" <LC@NoSpam.com> wrote in message news:QMdSd.27807$ya6.5293@trndny01... > Thanks for the tip. I sure will try it out before taking it in for the next > service. > > Do other CR-V owners find their cars heavy? Yes, but just lately. I have a 2003 EX with about 17K on it. It seems to feel like the tires are way underinflated (they're not) or the brakes are dragging (again, they're not). Was starting to think it was just me. |
Re: 2003 CR-V engine feels very heavy
Michael Pardee wrote:
> "LC" <LC@NoSpam.com> wrote in message news:3adSd.27727$sR5.14992@trndny05... > >>I have owned six cars so far. 4 gas and 2 diesel. I have never felt an >>engine as heavy as the CR-V. Even a diesel engine, which has a lot of >>engine braking, does not slow a car down as much as the i-VTEC does. I keep >>asking the dealership to check the engine out everytime I take it in for >>service but they haven't found anything wrong. I do about 50 miles of >>highway everyday and I'm consistently getting less than 23mpg. Is it >>normal? >> >>Also I notice a burning smell from the rear wheel on the passenger's side. >>I think it comes from the brake disc because it feels very hot when I >>touch it. Then I was told that there was not excessive wear on the brakes. >>What can be wrong? >> >> >>Ford Cortina Mark III >>Citreon BX >>Fiat Ritmo Turbo Diesel >>BMW 318tds >>Subaru Legacy >>Honda CR-V >> >> > > You can check the brake drag on the wheel by jacking it up and turning the > wheel by hand. If you give the wheel a spin by hand and count the number of > revolutions it makes, then compare it with the other rear wheel, you will > find out if the brake is dragging. Sometimes the slide pin lubrication gives > out and the pads don't back away from the disk. Feeling the heat there is > suspicious at least. > > Mike > ------------------------------ Mike, that doesn't work with an AWD CR-V, since the rear differential will resist any efforts to spin a wheel by hand. The TCu can be reset, but the CR-V will always seem to have more engine braking because of the way it saves gas by shutting off the injectors when you take your foot off the gas. If it's over 30,000 miles, LC needs to change his Dual Pump Fluid (since the manual has an error in the maintenance schedule). I'd change the tranny fluid too, way ahead of time. hondasuv.com has articles. LC needs to let his V roll to a stop on the highway, then (carefully) feel the rotors to determine if the slide pin is siezed on the rear right, like you said. Without knowing the mileage, much is speculation. 'Curly' |
Re: 2003 CR-V engine feels very heavy
Michael Pardee wrote:
> "LC" <LC@NoSpam.com> wrote in message news:3adSd.27727$sR5.14992@trndny05... > >>I have owned six cars so far. 4 gas and 2 diesel. I have never felt an >>engine as heavy as the CR-V. Even a diesel engine, which has a lot of >>engine braking, does not slow a car down as much as the i-VTEC does. I keep >>asking the dealership to check the engine out everytime I take it in for >>service but they haven't found anything wrong. I do about 50 miles of >>highway everyday and I'm consistently getting less than 23mpg. Is it >>normal? >> >>Also I notice a burning smell from the rear wheel on the passenger's side. >>I think it comes from the brake disc because it feels very hot when I >>touch it. Then I was told that there was not excessive wear on the brakes. >>What can be wrong? >> >> >>Ford Cortina Mark III >>Citreon BX >>Fiat Ritmo Turbo Diesel >>BMW 318tds >>Subaru Legacy >>Honda CR-V >> >> > > You can check the brake drag on the wheel by jacking it up and turning the > wheel by hand. If you give the wheel a spin by hand and count the number of > revolutions it makes, then compare it with the other rear wheel, you will > find out if the brake is dragging. Sometimes the slide pin lubrication gives > out and the pads don't back away from the disk. Feeling the heat there is > suspicious at least. > > Mike > ------------------------------ Mike, that doesn't work with an AWD CR-V, since the rear differential will resist any efforts to spin a wheel by hand. The TCu can be reset, but the CR-V will always seem to have more engine braking because of the way it saves gas by shutting off the injectors when you take your foot off the gas. If it's over 30,000 miles, LC needs to change his Dual Pump Fluid (since the manual has an error in the maintenance schedule). I'd change the tranny fluid too, way ahead of time. hondasuv.com has articles. LC needs to let his V roll to a stop on the highway, then (carefully) feel the rotors to determine if the slide pin is siezed on the rear right, like you said. Without knowing the mileage, much is speculation. 'Curly' |
Re: 2003 CR-V engine feels very heavy
"motsco_ _" <"motsco_ _"@interbaun.com> wrote in message
news:421A21E6.9020401@interbaun.com... > Michael Pardee wrote: >> "LC" <LC@NoSpam.com> wrote in message >> news:3adSd.27727$sR5.14992@trndny05... >> >>>I have owned six cars so far. 4 gas and 2 diesel. I have never felt an >>>engine as heavy as the CR-V. Even a diesel engine, which has a lot of >>>engine braking, does not slow a car down as much as the i-VTEC does. I >>>keep asking the dealership to check the engine out everytime I take it in >>>for service but they haven't found anything wrong. I do about 50 miles of >>>highway everyday and I'm consistently getting less than 23mpg. Is it >>>normal? >>> >>>Also I notice a burning smell from the rear wheel on the passenger's >>>side. I think it comes from the brake disc because it feels very hot when >>>I touch it. Then I was told that there was not excessive wear on the >>>brakes. What can be wrong? >>> >>> >>>Ford Cortina Mark III >>>Citreon BX >>>Fiat Ritmo Turbo Diesel >>>BMW 318tds >>>Subaru Legacy >>>Honda CR-V >>> >>> >> >> You can check the brake drag on the wheel by jacking it up and turning >> the wheel by hand. If you give the wheel a spin by hand and count the >> number of revolutions it makes, then compare it with the other rear >> wheel, you will find out if the brake is dragging. Sometimes the slide >> pin lubrication gives out and the pads don't back away from the disk. >> Feeling the heat there is suspicious at least. >> >> Mike > ------------------------------ > > Mike, that doesn't work with an AWD CR-V, since the rear differential will > resist any efforts to spin a wheel by hand. The TCu can be reset, but the > CR-V will always seem to have more engine braking because of the way it > saves gas by shutting off the injectors when you take your foot off the > gas. If it's over 30,000 miles, LC needs to change his Dual Pump Fluid > (since the manual has an error in the maintenance schedule). I'd change > the tranny fluid too, way ahead of time. hondasuv.com has articles. > > LC needs to let his V roll to a stop on the highway, then (carefully) feel > the rotors to determine if the slide pin is siezed on the rear right, like > you said. Without knowing the mileage, much is speculation. > > 'Curly' > Ahh... thanks for setting me straight, Curly. That's the strength of the groups - we are always learning! Mike |
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"motsco_ _" <"motsco_ _"@interbaun.com> wrote in message
news:421A21E6.9020401@interbaun.com... > Michael Pardee wrote: >> "LC" <LC@NoSpam.com> wrote in message >> news:3adSd.27727$sR5.14992@trndny05... >> >>>I have owned six cars so far. 4 gas and 2 diesel. I have never felt an >>>engine as heavy as the CR-V. Even a diesel engine, which has a lot of >>>engine braking, does not slow a car down as much as the i-VTEC does. I >>>keep asking the dealership to check the engine out everytime I take it in >>>for service but they haven't found anything wrong. I do about 50 miles of >>>highway everyday and I'm consistently getting less than 23mpg. Is it >>>normal? >>> >>>Also I notice a burning smell from the rear wheel on the passenger's >>>side. I think it comes from the brake disc because it feels very hot when >>>I touch it. Then I was told that there was not excessive wear on the >>>brakes. What can be wrong? >>> >>> >>>Ford Cortina Mark III >>>Citreon BX >>>Fiat Ritmo Turbo Diesel >>>BMW 318tds >>>Subaru Legacy >>>Honda CR-V >>> >>> >> >> You can check the brake drag on the wheel by jacking it up and turning >> the wheel by hand. If you give the wheel a spin by hand and count the >> number of revolutions it makes, then compare it with the other rear >> wheel, you will find out if the brake is dragging. Sometimes the slide >> pin lubrication gives out and the pads don't back away from the disk. >> Feeling the heat there is suspicious at least. >> >> Mike > ------------------------------ > > Mike, that doesn't work with an AWD CR-V, since the rear differential will > resist any efforts to spin a wheel by hand. The TCu can be reset, but the > CR-V will always seem to have more engine braking because of the way it > saves gas by shutting off the injectors when you take your foot off the > gas. If it's over 30,000 miles, LC needs to change his Dual Pump Fluid > (since the manual has an error in the maintenance schedule). I'd change > the tranny fluid too, way ahead of time. hondasuv.com has articles. > > LC needs to let his V roll to a stop on the highway, then (carefully) feel > the rotors to determine if the slide pin is siezed on the rear right, like > you said. Without knowing the mileage, much is speculation. > > 'Curly' > Ahh... thanks for setting me straight, Curly. That's the strength of the groups - we are always learning! Mike |
Re: 2003 CR-V engine feels very heavy
Hey Curly.
What years CR-V do the injectors shut off, when you take your foot off the throttle, I was not aware of that. Tom "motsco_ _" <"motsco_ _"@interbaun.com> wrote in message news:421A21E6.9020401@interbaun.com... > Michael Pardee wrote: >> "LC" <LC@NoSpam.com> wrote in message >> news:3adSd.27727$sR5.14992@trndny05... >> >>>I have owned six cars so far. 4 gas and 2 diesel. I have never felt an >>>engine as heavy as the CR-V. Even a diesel engine, which has a lot of >>>engine braking, does not slow a car down as much as the i-VTEC does. I >>>keep asking the dealership to check the engine out everytime I take it in >>>for service but they haven't found anything wrong. I do about 50 miles of >>>highway everyday and I'm consistently getting less than 23mpg. Is it >>>normal? >>> >>>Also I notice a burning smell from the rear wheel on the passenger's >>>side. I think it comes from the brake disc because it feels very hot when >>>I touch it. Then I was told that there was not excessive wear on the >>>brakes. What can be wrong? >>> >>> >>>Ford Cortina Mark III >>>Citreon BX >>>Fiat Ritmo Turbo Diesel >>>BMW 318tds >>>Subaru Legacy >>>Honda CR-V >>> >>> >> >> You can check the brake drag on the wheel by jacking it up and turning >> the wheel by hand. If you give the wheel a spin by hand and count the >> number of revolutions it makes, then compare it with the other rear >> wheel, you will find out if the brake is dragging. Sometimes the slide >> pin lubrication gives out and the pads don't back away from the disk. >> Feeling the heat there is suspicious at least. >> >> Mike > ------------------------------ > > Mike, that doesn't work with an AWD CR-V, since the rear differential will > resist any efforts to spin a wheel by hand. The TCu can be reset, but the > CR-V will always seem to have more engine braking because of the way it > saves gas by shutting off the injectors when you take your foot off the > gas. If it's over 30,000 miles, LC needs to change his Dual Pump Fluid > (since the manual has an error in the maintenance schedule). I'd change > the tranny fluid too, way ahead of time. hondasuv.com has articles. > > LC needs to let his V roll to a stop on the highway, then (carefully) feel > the rotors to determine if the slide pin is siezed on the rear right, like > you said. Without knowing the mileage, much is speculation. > > 'Curly' > |
Re: 2003 CR-V engine feels very heavy
Hey Curly.
What years CR-V do the injectors shut off, when you take your foot off the throttle, I was not aware of that. Tom "motsco_ _" <"motsco_ _"@interbaun.com> wrote in message news:421A21E6.9020401@interbaun.com... > Michael Pardee wrote: >> "LC" <LC@NoSpam.com> wrote in message >> news:3adSd.27727$sR5.14992@trndny05... >> >>>I have owned six cars so far. 4 gas and 2 diesel. I have never felt an >>>engine as heavy as the CR-V. Even a diesel engine, which has a lot of >>>engine braking, does not slow a car down as much as the i-VTEC does. I >>>keep asking the dealership to check the engine out everytime I take it in >>>for service but they haven't found anything wrong. I do about 50 miles of >>>highway everyday and I'm consistently getting less than 23mpg. Is it >>>normal? >>> >>>Also I notice a burning smell from the rear wheel on the passenger's >>>side. I think it comes from the brake disc because it feels very hot when >>>I touch it. Then I was told that there was not excessive wear on the >>>brakes. What can be wrong? >>> >>> >>>Ford Cortina Mark III >>>Citreon BX >>>Fiat Ritmo Turbo Diesel >>>BMW 318tds >>>Subaru Legacy >>>Honda CR-V >>> >>> >> >> You can check the brake drag on the wheel by jacking it up and turning >> the wheel by hand. If you give the wheel a spin by hand and count the >> number of revolutions it makes, then compare it with the other rear >> wheel, you will find out if the brake is dragging. Sometimes the slide >> pin lubrication gives out and the pads don't back away from the disk. >> Feeling the heat there is suspicious at least. >> >> Mike > ------------------------------ > > Mike, that doesn't work with an AWD CR-V, since the rear differential will > resist any efforts to spin a wheel by hand. The TCu can be reset, but the > CR-V will always seem to have more engine braking because of the way it > saves gas by shutting off the injectors when you take your foot off the > gas. If it's over 30,000 miles, LC needs to change his Dual Pump Fluid > (since the manual has an error in the maintenance schedule). I'd change > the tranny fluid too, way ahead of time. hondasuv.com has articles. > > LC needs to let his V roll to a stop on the highway, then (carefully) feel > the rotors to determine if the slide pin is siezed on the rear right, like > you said. Without knowing the mileage, much is speculation. > > 'Curly' > |
Re: 2003 CR-V engine feels very heavy
twfsa wrote:
> Hey Curly. > > What years CR-V do the injectors shut off, when you take your foot off the > throttle, I was not aware of that. > > Tom -------------------------- Our first '97 certainly did that, since the tach would drop to about 300 when slowing, coming off the highway, and suddenly spring to life just before you'd expect it to stall. Our '98 doesn't do it as obviously, and the BOSS doesn't want me to reset her TCU, because she didn't like the way you had to 'use gas to get to the red light' on the '97. It was wierd to get used to, but great in bad icy traffic. Very much like a manual tranny, or using D3 all the time. Sorry, I don't know if that trick is still around in the Generation II of the CR-V. 'Curly' |
Re: 2003 CR-V engine feels very heavy
twfsa wrote:
> Hey Curly. > > What years CR-V do the injectors shut off, when you take your foot off the > throttle, I was not aware of that. > > Tom -------------------------- Our first '97 certainly did that, since the tach would drop to about 300 when slowing, coming off the highway, and suddenly spring to life just before you'd expect it to stall. Our '98 doesn't do it as obviously, and the BOSS doesn't want me to reset her TCU, because she didn't like the way you had to 'use gas to get to the red light' on the '97. It was wierd to get used to, but great in bad icy traffic. Very much like a manual tranny, or using D3 all the time. Sorry, I don't know if that trick is still around in the Generation II of the CR-V. 'Curly' |
Re: 2003 CR-V engine feels very heavy
It is a 2003 CR-V EX with 39,700 miles on it. I have taken it to the
dealership for services at every 5K miles interval. Is the changing of Dual Pump Fluid a standard procedure at 30K? Am going to take it in for the 40K miles service two weeks from now so would like to know whether the "heaviness" is normal or not. "motsco_ _" <"motsco_ _"@interbaun.com> wrote in message news:421A21E6.9020401@interbaun.com... > Michael Pardee wrote: >> "LC" <LC@NoSpam.com> wrote in message >> news:3adSd.27727$sR5.14992@trndny05... >> >>>I have owned six cars so far. 4 gas and 2 diesel. I have never felt an >>>engine as heavy as the CR-V. Even a diesel engine, which has a lot of >>>engine braking, does not slow a car down as much as the i-VTEC does. I >>>keep asking the dealership to check the engine out everytime I take it in >>>for service but they haven't found anything wrong. I do about 50 miles of >>>highway everyday and I'm consistently getting less than 23mpg. Is it >>>normal? >>> >>>Also I notice a burning smell from the rear wheel on the passenger's >>>side. I think it comes from the brake disc because it feels very hot when >>>I touch it. Then I was told that there was not excessive wear on the >>>brakes. What can be wrong? >>> >>> >>>Ford Cortina Mark III >>>Citreon BX >>>Fiat Ritmo Turbo Diesel >>>BMW 318tds >>>Subaru Legacy >>>Honda CR-V >>> >>> >> >> You can check the brake drag on the wheel by jacking it up and turning >> the wheel by hand. If you give the wheel a spin by hand and count the >> number of revolutions it makes, then compare it with the other rear >> wheel, you will find out if the brake is dragging. Sometimes the slide >> pin lubrication gives out and the pads don't back away from the disk. >> Feeling the heat there is suspicious at least. >> >> Mike > ------------------------------ > > Mike, that doesn't work with an AWD CR-V, since the rear differential will > resist any efforts to spin a wheel by hand. The TCu can be reset, but the > CR-V will always seem to have more engine braking because of the way it > saves gas by shutting off the injectors when you take your foot off the > gas. If it's over 30,000 miles, LC needs to change his Dual Pump Fluid > (since the manual has an error in the maintenance schedule). I'd change > the tranny fluid too, way ahead of time. hondasuv.com has articles. > > LC needs to let his V roll to a stop on the highway, then (carefully) feel > the rotors to determine if the slide pin is siezed on the rear right, like > you said. Without knowing the mileage, much is speculation. > > 'Curly' > |
Re: 2003 CR-V engine feels very heavy
It is a 2003 CR-V EX with 39,700 miles on it. I have taken it to the
dealership for services at every 5K miles interval. Is the changing of Dual Pump Fluid a standard procedure at 30K? Am going to take it in for the 40K miles service two weeks from now so would like to know whether the "heaviness" is normal or not. "motsco_ _" <"motsco_ _"@interbaun.com> wrote in message news:421A21E6.9020401@interbaun.com... > Michael Pardee wrote: >> "LC" <LC@NoSpam.com> wrote in message >> news:3adSd.27727$sR5.14992@trndny05... >> >>>I have owned six cars so far. 4 gas and 2 diesel. I have never felt an >>>engine as heavy as the CR-V. Even a diesel engine, which has a lot of >>>engine braking, does not slow a car down as much as the i-VTEC does. I >>>keep asking the dealership to check the engine out everytime I take it in >>>for service but they haven't found anything wrong. I do about 50 miles of >>>highway everyday and I'm consistently getting less than 23mpg. Is it >>>normal? >>> >>>Also I notice a burning smell from the rear wheel on the passenger's >>>side. I think it comes from the brake disc because it feels very hot when >>>I touch it. Then I was told that there was not excessive wear on the >>>brakes. What can be wrong? >>> >>> >>>Ford Cortina Mark III >>>Citreon BX >>>Fiat Ritmo Turbo Diesel >>>BMW 318tds >>>Subaru Legacy >>>Honda CR-V >>> >>> >> >> You can check the brake drag on the wheel by jacking it up and turning >> the wheel by hand. If you give the wheel a spin by hand and count the >> number of revolutions it makes, then compare it with the other rear >> wheel, you will find out if the brake is dragging. Sometimes the slide >> pin lubrication gives out and the pads don't back away from the disk. >> Feeling the heat there is suspicious at least. >> >> Mike > ------------------------------ > > Mike, that doesn't work with an AWD CR-V, since the rear differential will > resist any efforts to spin a wheel by hand. The TCu can be reset, but the > CR-V will always seem to have more engine braking because of the way it > saves gas by shutting off the injectors when you take your foot off the > gas. If it's over 30,000 miles, LC needs to change his Dual Pump Fluid > (since the manual has an error in the maintenance schedule). I'd change > the tranny fluid too, way ahead of time. hondasuv.com has articles. > > LC needs to let his V roll to a stop on the highway, then (carefully) feel > the rotors to determine if the slide pin is siezed on the rear right, like > you said. Without knowing the mileage, much is speculation. > > 'Curly' > |
Re: 2003 CR-V engine feels very heavy
LC wrote:
> It is a 2003 CR-V EX with 39,700 miles on it. I have taken it to the > dealership for services at every 5K miles interval. Is the changing of Dual > Pump Fluid a standard procedure at 30K? Am going to take it in for the 40K > miles service two weeks from now so would like to know whether the > "heaviness" is normal or not. > ---------------------------- Changing the fluid at that mileage is not 'standard', but time and experience has proven that many users start getting bad noises around 30,000 Miles, so it must be a 'prudent' idea. It won't make your CR-V feel lighter, or coast better, but since you're going to have it up on the hoist anyhow, it's a good preventative measure for troublefree driving. Hopefully the dealer will find out if your brakes are dragging. Let us know. 'Curly' |
Re: 2003 CR-V engine feels very heavy
LC wrote:
> It is a 2003 CR-V EX with 39,700 miles on it. I have taken it to the > dealership for services at every 5K miles interval. Is the changing of Dual > Pump Fluid a standard procedure at 30K? Am going to take it in for the 40K > miles service two weeks from now so would like to know whether the > "heaviness" is normal or not. > ---------------------------- Changing the fluid at that mileage is not 'standard', but time and experience has proven that many users start getting bad noises around 30,000 Miles, so it must be a 'prudent' idea. It won't make your CR-V feel lighter, or coast better, but since you're going to have it up on the hoist anyhow, it's a good preventative measure for troublefree driving. Hopefully the dealer will find out if your brakes are dragging. Let us know. 'Curly' |
Re: 2003 CR-V engine feels very heavy
"twfsa" <uksatw@qwest.net> wrote in news:BQuSd.244$Sn6.70@lakeread03:
> Hey Curly. > > What years CR-V do the injectors shut off, when you take your foot off > the throttle, I was not aware of that. Every year, make and model of fuel-injected car since about the 80s. The injectors are shut off when you take your foot off the gas when the engine is above (typically) between 2,000 and 2,500 rpm depending on make and model. This is done to reduce emissions and improve fuel mileage. -- TeGGeR® The Unofficial Honda/Acura FAQ www.tegger.com/hondafaq/ |
Re: 2003 CR-V engine feels very heavy
"twfsa" <uksatw@qwest.net> wrote in news:BQuSd.244$Sn6.70@lakeread03:
> Hey Curly. > > What years CR-V do the injectors shut off, when you take your foot off > the throttle, I was not aware of that. Every year, make and model of fuel-injected car since about the 80s. The injectors are shut off when you take your foot off the gas when the engine is above (typically) between 2,000 and 2,500 rpm depending on make and model. This is done to reduce emissions and improve fuel mileage. -- TeGGeR® The Unofficial Honda/Acura FAQ www.tegger.com/hondafaq/ |
Re: 2003 CR-V engine feels very heavy
Most Hondas and Acuras do that to save gas. My 94 Acura Vigor does it. It's
even in the Service manual. "motsco_ _" <"motsco_ _"@interbaun.com> wrote in message news:421A8040.4000108@interbaun.com... > twfsa wrote: >> Hey Curly. >> >> What years CR-V do the injectors shut off, when you take your foot off >> the throttle, I was not aware of that. >> >> Tom > > > -------------------------- > > Our first '97 certainly did that, since the tach would drop to about 300 > when slowing, coming off the highway, and suddenly spring to life just > before you'd expect it to stall. Our '98 doesn't do it as obviously, and > the BOSS doesn't want me to reset her TCU, because she didn't like the way > you had to 'use gas to get to the red light' on the '97. > > It was wierd to get used to, but great in bad icy traffic. Very much like > a manual tranny, or using D3 all the time. > > Sorry, I don't know if that trick is still around in the Generation II of > the CR-V. > > 'Curly' > |
Re: 2003 CR-V engine feels very heavy
Most Hondas and Acuras do that to save gas. My 94 Acura Vigor does it. It's
even in the Service manual. "motsco_ _" <"motsco_ _"@interbaun.com> wrote in message news:421A8040.4000108@interbaun.com... > twfsa wrote: >> Hey Curly. >> >> What years CR-V do the injectors shut off, when you take your foot off >> the throttle, I was not aware of that. >> >> Tom > > > -------------------------- > > Our first '97 certainly did that, since the tach would drop to about 300 > when slowing, coming off the highway, and suddenly spring to life just > before you'd expect it to stall. Our '98 doesn't do it as obviously, and > the BOSS doesn't want me to reset her TCU, because she didn't like the way > you had to 'use gas to get to the red light' on the '97. > > It was wierd to get used to, but great in bad icy traffic. Very much like > a manual tranny, or using D3 all the time. > > Sorry, I don't know if that trick is still around in the Generation II of > the CR-V. > > 'Curly' > |
Re: 2003 CR-V engine feels very heavy
"LC" <LC@NoSpam.com> wrote in news:3adSd.27727$sR5.14992@trndny05:
> I have owned six cars so far. 4 gas and 2 diesel. I have never felt an > engine as heavy as the CR-V. Even a diesel engine, which has a lot of > engine braking, does not slow a car down as much as the i-VTEC does. I > keep asking the dealership to check the engine out everytime I take it > in for service but they haven't found anything wrong. I do about 50 > miles of highway everyday and I'm consistently getting less than > 23mpg. Is it normal? > > Also I notice a burning smell from the rear wheel on the passenger's > side. I think it comes from the brake disc because it feels very hot > when I touch it. Then I was told that there was not excessive wear on > the brakes. What can be wrong? > > > Ford Cortina Mark III > Citreon BX > Fiat Ritmo Turbo Diesel > BMW 318tds > Subaru Legacy > Honda CR-V > > > I get 22 consistently and I'm happy with that considering how fast I drive. Occasionally, it goes up over 23. |
Re: 2003 CR-V engine feels very heavy
"LC" <LC@NoSpam.com> wrote in news:3adSd.27727$sR5.14992@trndny05:
> I have owned six cars so far. 4 gas and 2 diesel. I have never felt an > engine as heavy as the CR-V. Even a diesel engine, which has a lot of > engine braking, does not slow a car down as much as the i-VTEC does. I > keep asking the dealership to check the engine out everytime I take it > in for service but they haven't found anything wrong. I do about 50 > miles of highway everyday and I'm consistently getting less than > 23mpg. Is it normal? > > Also I notice a burning smell from the rear wheel on the passenger's > side. I think it comes from the brake disc because it feels very hot > when I touch it. Then I was told that there was not excessive wear on > the brakes. What can be wrong? > > > Ford Cortina Mark III > Citreon BX > Fiat Ritmo Turbo Diesel > BMW 318tds > Subaru Legacy > Honda CR-V > > > I get 22 consistently and I'm happy with that considering how fast I drive. Occasionally, it goes up over 23. |
Re: 2003 CR-V engine feels very heavy
If the injectors "shut off", then how does the engine stay running ?
D.Mills - Licensed Automotive Technician. |
Re: 2003 CR-V engine feels very heavy
If the injectors "shut off", then how does the engine stay running ?
D.Mills - Licensed Automotive Technician. |
Re: 2003 CR-V engine feels very heavy
David and Tracey Mills wrote:
> If the injectors "shut off", then how does the engine stay running ? > > D.Mills - Licensed Automotive Technician. > you're kidding, right? as a "licensed automotive technician", what value do you think is achieved by injecting fuel into a closed throttle if the vehicle's coasting above 2000rpm? |
Re: 2003 CR-V engine feels very heavy
David and Tracey Mills wrote:
> If the injectors "shut off", then how does the engine stay running ? > > D.Mills - Licensed Automotive Technician. > you're kidding, right? as a "licensed automotive technician", what value do you think is achieved by injecting fuel into a closed throttle if the vehicle's coasting above 2000rpm? |
Re: 2003 CR-V engine feels very heavy
"TeGGer®" wrote: > > What years CR-V do the injectors shut off, when you take your foot off > > the throttle, I was not aware of that. > > Every year, make and model of fuel-injected car since about the 80s. Even some some carburated engines had fuel shut off (before their breed went extinct). Auto mechanics loved working on those electronically controlled carburetors... ================================================== ===== A very modest collection of Honda tech info can be found at: http://www.geocities.com/ng_randolph |
Re: 2003 CR-V engine feels very heavy
"TeGGer®" wrote: > > What years CR-V do the injectors shut off, when you take your foot off > > the throttle, I was not aware of that. > > Every year, make and model of fuel-injected car since about the 80s. Even some some carburated engines had fuel shut off (before their breed went extinct). Auto mechanics loved working on those electronically controlled carburetors... ================================================== ===== A very modest collection of Honda tech info can be found at: http://www.geocities.com/ng_randolph |
Re: 2003 CR-V engine feels very heavy
"David and Tracey Mills" <themills.clan@ns.sympatico.ca> wrote in message
news:42292D12.F0DB7075@ns.sympatico.ca... > If the injectors "shut off", then how does the engine stay running ? > > D.Mills - Licensed Automotive Technician. > My understanding is that cars made in the last decade or so all do that, killing injection under lift-throttle conditions above some modest RPM. My 1993 Chevy work truck with manual tranny isn't very smooth about it - I can feel the difference when using engine braking on steep roads. I think it is to control emissions rather than to save the bit of fuel that would be used otherwise. The cutoff only occurs when the engine doesn't need fuel at the moment. The injection comes back on as the RPMs drop, so you could say for the time the injectors are off the engine isn't running, only spinning (and sparking and pumping). It is restarted, as it were, by its own momentum. Mike |
Re: 2003 CR-V engine feels very heavy
"David and Tracey Mills" <themills.clan@ns.sympatico.ca> wrote in message
news:42292D12.F0DB7075@ns.sympatico.ca... > If the injectors "shut off", then how does the engine stay running ? > > D.Mills - Licensed Automotive Technician. > My understanding is that cars made in the last decade or so all do that, killing injection under lift-throttle conditions above some modest RPM. My 1993 Chevy work truck with manual tranny isn't very smooth about it - I can feel the difference when using engine braking on steep roads. I think it is to control emissions rather than to save the bit of fuel that would be used otherwise. The cutoff only occurs when the engine doesn't need fuel at the moment. The injection comes back on as the RPMs drop, so you could say for the time the injectors are off the engine isn't running, only spinning (and sparking and pumping). It is restarted, as it were, by its own momentum. Mike |
Re: 2003 CR-V engine feels very heavy
"Randolph" <trash@junkmail.com> wrote in message
news:42296D7C.4A2BEB00@junkmail.com... > Even some some carburated engines had fuel shut off (before their breed > went extinct). Auto mechanics loved working on those electronically > controlled carburetors... > Great! Now I'm going to have Mikuni carburetor nightmares again. Mike |
Re: 2003 CR-V engine feels very heavy
"Randolph" <trash@junkmail.com> wrote in message
news:42296D7C.4A2BEB00@junkmail.com... > Even some some carburated engines had fuel shut off (before their breed > went extinct). Auto mechanics loved working on those electronically > controlled carburetors... > Great! Now I'm going to have Mikuni carburetor nightmares again. Mike |
Re: 2003 CR-V engine feels very heavy
Well for starters, if the engine is multi-point injected, then you
wouldn't be injecting fuel into a throttle......it would be injected into the intake manifold behind the injector. So, if the injectors "shut off" while coasting, does that mean when you are accelerating in a manual trans car that the injectors are "shut off" while changing gears ? I would be inclined to think that instead of the injectors being "shut off", the pulse width of the injectors would be shortened. Watching a scan tool (set on injector pulse width display ) while driving, or even just racing an engine at idle, would show you that the injectors are not shut off. D.Mills - Licensed Automotive Technician. |
Re: 2003 CR-V engine feels very heavy
Well for starters, if the engine is multi-point injected, then you
wouldn't be injecting fuel into a throttle......it would be injected into the intake manifold behind the injector. So, if the injectors "shut off" while coasting, does that mean when you are accelerating in a manual trans car that the injectors are "shut off" while changing gears ? I would be inclined to think that instead of the injectors being "shut off", the pulse width of the injectors would be shortened. Watching a scan tool (set on injector pulse width display ) while driving, or even just racing an engine at idle, would show you that the injectors are not shut off. D.Mills - Licensed Automotive Technician. |
Re: 2003 CR-V engine feels very heavy
Well for starters, if the engine is multi-point injected, then you
wouldn't be injecting fuel into a throttle......it would be injected into the intake manifold behind the intake valve. So, if the injectors "shut off" while coasting, does that mean when you are accelerating in a manual trans car that the injectors are "shut off" while changing gears ? I would be inclined to think that instead of the injectors being "shut off", the pulse width of the injectors would be shortened. Watching a scan tool (set on injector pulse width display ) while driving, or even just racing an engine at idle, would show you that the injectors are not shut off. D.Mills - Licensed Automotive Technician. |
Re: 2003 CR-V engine feels very heavy
Well for starters, if the engine is multi-point injected, then you
wouldn't be injecting fuel into a throttle......it would be injected into the intake manifold behind the intake valve. So, if the injectors "shut off" while coasting, does that mean when you are accelerating in a manual trans car that the injectors are "shut off" while changing gears ? I would be inclined to think that instead of the injectors being "shut off", the pulse width of the injectors would be shortened. Watching a scan tool (set on injector pulse width display ) while driving, or even just racing an engine at idle, would show you that the injectors are not shut off. D.Mills - Licensed Automotive Technician. |
Re: 2003 CR-V engine feels very heavy
David and Tracey Mills wrote:
> Well for starters, if the engine is multi-point injected, then you > wouldn't be injecting fuel into a throttle...... is doesn't matter the location of the injectors - you still have a throttle on any gasoline engine to control air flow. even "fly by wire" gasoline engines use throttles. > it would be injected > into the intake manifold behind the intake valve. So, if the injectors > "shut > off" while coasting, does that mean when you are accelerating in a > manual trans car that the injectors are "shut off" while changing gears > ? they shut off while coasting, i.e. if you take your foot off the gas on a down grade, slowing down, etc. the map conditions are typically rpm's over 2k, speed over 30mph, but it varies with different cars. > I would be inclined to think that instead of the injectors being "shut > > off", the pulse width of the injectors would be shortened. Watching a > scan tool (set on injector pulse width display ) while driving, or even > just racing an engine at idle, would show you that the injectors are not > > shut off. my analyzer doesn't show zero pulse width either, but then it doesn't store thousands of points to allow for individual pulse inspection. besides, you'll almost never see fully shut off injectors while you have the motor in the workshop. if you want an example of basic injection systems, including cut-off, check out: http://www.nightrider.com/biketech/e...ect_manual.htm but there's a ton of books & other stuff out there about how these things work. also worth checking out is: http://www.bgsoflex.com/megasquirt.html if you want to roll your own system. > > D.Mills - Licensed Automotive Technician. > |
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