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"Todd Sanderhoff" <toddpue@yahoo.com> wrote in message
news:f795d38.0309120515.3b2191b9@posting.google.co m...
> My dealer told me (at my last recall) that @ 15,000 my Valves need to
> be Adj.. and it would cost about $140.00
> does this sound right?
> This is my first Honda and I want to do the right thing.
> Thanks, Todd

The service manual states that valves should be checked at 110,000 miles
under normal or severe service conditions unless they are noisy. I do not
have the owner's manual at hand, but I think it is the same. Dealer seems
to be attempting a revenue enhancement ploy and I would consider his future
service advice to be suspect. I had similar issues with a Volvo dealer, as
the service department is usually a cash cow for them. The cost seems about
right for $70 to $90 per hour labor rate from what I read in the service
manual, but it probably unecessary.

Check your manual and have just those items serviced that are in the manual.
Even under severe conditions, all the maintanence is just inspection and
fluid changes up to 110,000 miles

By the way, you do not have to have a delaer service your Accord to keep the
warrantee in effect; just make sure you follow the manual's requirements and
keep receipts.

Dave, '03 Accord 4 manual

Jafir Elkurd

What did you check them with, a yard stick?

"N.E.Ohio Bob" <rgstroud@neo.rr.com> wrote in message
news:3F623CCF.51EFDADE@neo.rr.com...
> My '92 Accord has 215K and I have checked the valve clearances at 100K
> and 200K. They needed no adjustment either time. bob

Jafir Elkurd

What did you check them with, a yard stick?

"N.E.Ohio Bob" <rgstroud@neo.rr.com> wrote in message
news:3F623CCF.51EFDADE@neo.rr.com...
> My '92 Accord has 215K and I have checked the valve clearances at 100K
> and 200K. They needed no adjustment either time. bob

Jafir Elkurd

What did you check them with, a yard stick?

"N.E.Ohio Bob" <rgstroud@neo.rr.com> wrote in message
news:3F623CCF.51EFDADE@neo.rr.com...
> My '92 Accord has 215K and I have checked the valve clearances at 100K
> and 200K. They needed no adjustment either time. bob

fettucino

Hi,

I got 288K on my 91 Civic ; I believe the valves were adjusted at 120K mile
service (1st time dealer service - I basically changed the fluids until that
time) and I think around 200K when I changed the 2nd timing belt (w/a local
Honda Acura shop - not a dealer...some guy who started his own repair shop
who worked at a local dealership).

So, NO ABSOLUTELY NO....you don't need valves done at 15K that
RIDICULOUS...who's this dealer....you need to complain to the local Honda
rep.


"Jafir Elkurd" <jafir@nospam.no.spam.hotpop.com> wrote in message
news:vm4vluid0ka1d6@corp.supernews.com...
> What did you check them with, a yard stick?
>
> "N.E.Ohio Bob" <rgstroud@neo.rr.com> wrote in message
> news:3F623CCF.51EFDADE@neo.rr.com...
> > My '92 Accord has 215K and I have checked the valve clearances at 100K
> > and 200K. They needed no adjustment either time. bob
>
>

fettucino

Hi,

I got 288K on my 91 Civic ; I believe the valves were adjusted at 120K mile
service (1st time dealer service - I basically changed the fluids until that
time) and I think around 200K when I changed the 2nd timing belt (w/a local
Honda Acura shop - not a dealer...some guy who started his own repair shop
who worked at a local dealership).

So, NO ABSOLUTELY NO....you don't need valves done at 15K that
RIDICULOUS...who's this dealer....you need to complain to the local Honda
rep.


"Jafir Elkurd" <jafir@nospam.no.spam.hotpop.com> wrote in message
news:vm4vluid0ka1d6@corp.supernews.com...
> What did you check them with, a yard stick?
>
> "N.E.Ohio Bob" <rgstroud@neo.rr.com> wrote in message
> news:3F623CCF.51EFDADE@neo.rr.com...
> > My '92 Accord has 215K and I have checked the valve clearances at 100K
> > and 200K. They needed no adjustment either time. bob
>
>

fettucino

Hi,

I got 288K on my 91 Civic ; I believe the valves were adjusted at 120K mile
service (1st time dealer service - I basically changed the fluids until that
time) and I think around 200K when I changed the 2nd timing belt (w/a local
Honda Acura shop - not a dealer...some guy who started his own repair shop
who worked at a local dealership).

So, NO ABSOLUTELY NO....you don't need valves done at 15K that
RIDICULOUS...who's this dealer....you need to complain to the local Honda
rep.


"Jafir Elkurd" <jafir@nospam.no.spam.hotpop.com> wrote in message
news:vm4vluid0ka1d6@corp.supernews.com...
> What did you check them with, a yard stick?
>
> "N.E.Ohio Bob" <rgstroud@neo.rr.com> wrote in message
> news:3F623CCF.51EFDADE@neo.rr.com...
> > My '92 Accord has 215K and I have checked the valve clearances at 100K
> > and 200K. They needed no adjustment either time. bob
>
>

fettucino

oh...that reminds me...i think i'd better change the 3rd timing
belt....LOL...my 2 teenage daughters drive it now...i think they abuse the
stereo more than the car...288K miles...WOW..these Civics go for ever..
"fettucino" <flickering@dixiechicks.com> wrote in message
news:iCv8b.212$Kt4.55@nwrdny02.gnilink.net...
> Hi,
>
> I got 288K on my 91 Civic ; I believe the valves were adjusted at 120K
mile
> service (1st time dealer service - I basically changed the fluids until
that
> time) and I think around 200K when I changed the 2nd timing belt (w/a
local
> Honda Acura shop - not a dealer...some guy who started his own repair shop
> who worked at a local dealership).
>
> So, NO ABSOLUTELY NO....you don't need valves done at 15K that
> RIDICULOUS...who's this dealer....you need to complain to the local Honda
> rep.
>
>
> "Jafir Elkurd" <jafir@nospam.no.spam.hotpop.com> wrote in message
> news:vm4vluid0ka1d6@corp.supernews.com...
> > What did you check them with, a yard stick?
> >
> > "N.E.Ohio Bob" <rgstroud@neo.rr.com> wrote in message
> > news:3F623CCF.51EFDADE@neo.rr.com...
> > > My '92 Accord has 215K and I have checked the valve clearances at 100K
> > > and 200K. They needed no adjustment either time. bob
> >
> >
>
>

fettucino

oh...that reminds me...i think i'd better change the 3rd timing
belt....LOL...my 2 teenage daughters drive it now...i think they abuse the
stereo more than the car...288K miles...WOW..these Civics go for ever..
"fettucino" <flickering@dixiechicks.com> wrote in message
news:iCv8b.212$Kt4.55@nwrdny02.gnilink.net...
> Hi,
>
> I got 288K on my 91 Civic ; I believe the valves were adjusted at 120K
mile
> service (1st time dealer service - I basically changed the fluids until
that
> time) and I think around 200K when I changed the 2nd timing belt (w/a
local
> Honda Acura shop - not a dealer...some guy who started his own repair shop
> who worked at a local dealership).
>
> So, NO ABSOLUTELY NO....you don't need valves done at 15K that
> RIDICULOUS...who's this dealer....you need to complain to the local Honda
> rep.
>
>
> "Jafir Elkurd" <jafir@nospam.no.spam.hotpop.com> wrote in message
> news:vm4vluid0ka1d6@corp.supernews.com...
> > What did you check them with, a yard stick?
> >
> > "N.E.Ohio Bob" <rgstroud@neo.rr.com> wrote in message
> > news:3F623CCF.51EFDADE@neo.rr.com...
> > > My '92 Accord has 215K and I have checked the valve clearances at 100K
> > > and 200K. They needed no adjustment either time. bob
> >
> >
>
>

fettucino

oh...that reminds me...i think i'd better change the 3rd timing
belt....LOL...my 2 teenage daughters drive it now...i think they abuse the
stereo more than the car...288K miles...WOW..these Civics go for ever..
"fettucino" <flickering@dixiechicks.com> wrote in message
news:iCv8b.212$Kt4.55@nwrdny02.gnilink.net...
> Hi,
>
> I got 288K on my 91 Civic ; I believe the valves were adjusted at 120K
mile
> service (1st time dealer service - I basically changed the fluids until
that
> time) and I think around 200K when I changed the 2nd timing belt (w/a
local
> Honda Acura shop - not a dealer...some guy who started his own repair shop
> who worked at a local dealership).
>
> So, NO ABSOLUTELY NO....you don't need valves done at 15K that
> RIDICULOUS...who's this dealer....you need to complain to the local Honda
> rep.
>
>
> "Jafir Elkurd" <jafir@nospam.no.spam.hotpop.com> wrote in message
> news:vm4vluid0ka1d6@corp.supernews.com...
> > What did you check them with, a yard stick?
> >
> > "N.E.Ohio Bob" <rgstroud@neo.rr.com> wrote in message
> > news:3F623CCF.51EFDADE@neo.rr.com...
> > > My '92 Accord has 215K and I have checked the valve clearances at 100K
> > > and 200K. They needed no adjustment either time. bob
> >
> >
>
>

TL

Not called for under the service schedule. This is either 1) a scam to
get money from you, or 2) a warranty issue that should be covered. I
suspect the former. But either way, the dealer is not being straight
with you. I'd look around for another dealer / service option as I'd
now be suspicious of anything they suggested. (I'd also consider
reporting this to Honda.)


On 12 Sep 2003 06:15:15 -0700, toddpue@yahoo.com (Todd Sanderhoff)
wrote:

>My dealer told me (at my last recall) that @ 15,000 my Valves need to
>be Adj.. and it would cost about $140.00
>does this sound right?
>This is my first Honda and I want to do the right thing.
>Thanks, Todd

TL

Not called for under the service schedule. This is either 1) a scam to
get money from you, or 2) a warranty issue that should be covered. I
suspect the former. But either way, the dealer is not being straight
with you. I'd look around for another dealer / service option as I'd
now be suspicious of anything they suggested. (I'd also consider
reporting this to Honda.)


On 12 Sep 2003 06:15:15 -0700, toddpue@yahoo.com (Todd Sanderhoff)
wrote:

>My dealer told me (at my last recall) that @ 15,000 my Valves need to
>be Adj.. and it would cost about $140.00
>does this sound right?
>This is my first Honda and I want to do the right thing.
>Thanks, Todd

TL

Not called for under the service schedule. This is either 1) a scam to
get money from you, or 2) a warranty issue that should be covered. I
suspect the former. But either way, the dealer is not being straight
with you. I'd look around for another dealer / service option as I'd
now be suspicious of anything they suggested. (I'd also consider
reporting this to Honda.)


On 12 Sep 2003 06:15:15 -0700, toddpue@yahoo.com (Todd Sanderhoff)
wrote:

>My dealer told me (at my last recall) that @ 15,000 my Valves need to
>be Adj.. and it would cost about $140.00
>does this sound right?
>This is my first Honda and I want to do the right thing.
>Thanks, Todd

Jafir Elkurd

I know the newer Hondas specify differently, but up until 94 you were
supposed to adjust the valves every 15k. That may be a little too often....
but I have never seen a Honda that I checked the valve lash (properly) that
didn't have loose intake valves and tight exhaust valves.... so if people
are saying they have early 90's Honda (or before) that have 200,000 miles on
them and the valves are magically perfect... they need to learn how to check
them.


"fettucino" <flickering@dixiechicks.com> wrote in message
news:iCv8b.212$Kt4.55@nwrdny02.gnilink.net...
> Hi,
>
> I got 288K on my 91 Civic ; I believe the valves were adjusted at 120K
mile
> service (1st time dealer service - I basically changed the fluids until
that
> time) and I think around 200K when I changed the 2nd timing belt (w/a
local
> Honda Acura shop - not a dealer...some guy who started his own repair shop
> who worked at a local dealership).
>
> So, NO ABSOLUTELY NO....you don't need valves done at 15K that
> RIDICULOUS...who's this dealer....you need to complain to the local Honda
> rep.
>
>
> "Jafir Elkurd" <jafir@nospam.no.spam.hotpop.com> wrote in message
> news:vm4vluid0ka1d6@corp.supernews.com...
> > What did you check them with, a yard stick?
> >
> > "N.E.Ohio Bob" <rgstroud@neo.rr.com> wrote in message
> > news:3F623CCF.51EFDADE@neo.rr.com...
> > > My '92 Accord has 215K and I have checked the valve clearances at 100K
> > > and 200K. They needed no adjustment either time. bob
> >
> >
>
>

Jafir Elkurd

I know the newer Hondas specify differently, but up until 94 you were
supposed to adjust the valves every 15k. That may be a little too often....
but I have never seen a Honda that I checked the valve lash (properly) that
didn't have loose intake valves and tight exhaust valves.... so if people
are saying they have early 90's Honda (or before) that have 200,000 miles on
them and the valves are magically perfect... they need to learn how to check
them.


"fettucino" <flickering@dixiechicks.com> wrote in message
news:iCv8b.212$Kt4.55@nwrdny02.gnilink.net...
> Hi,
>
> I got 288K on my 91 Civic ; I believe the valves were adjusted at 120K
mile
> service (1st time dealer service - I basically changed the fluids until
that
> time) and I think around 200K when I changed the 2nd timing belt (w/a
local
> Honda Acura shop - not a dealer...some guy who started his own repair shop
> who worked at a local dealership).
>
> So, NO ABSOLUTELY NO....you don't need valves done at 15K that
> RIDICULOUS...who's this dealer....you need to complain to the local Honda
> rep.
>
>
> "Jafir Elkurd" <jafir@nospam.no.spam.hotpop.com> wrote in message
> news:vm4vluid0ka1d6@corp.supernews.com...
> > What did you check them with, a yard stick?
> >
> > "N.E.Ohio Bob" <rgstroud@neo.rr.com> wrote in message
> > news:3F623CCF.51EFDADE@neo.rr.com...
> > > My '92 Accord has 215K and I have checked the valve clearances at 100K
> > > and 200K. They needed no adjustment either time. bob
> >
> >
>
>