2004 Accord price?
 

I've been shopping for an Accord and have found a demo with 4k miles. It is
the EX V6, loaded with everything including the navigation and voice
commands. I have talked the dealer down to 25800.00. Edmonds reports the TMV
at 26565.00 Is there room for more talking or should I bite at this price?

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> I've been shopping for an Accord and have found a demo with 4k miles. It
> is the EX V6, loaded with everything including the navigation and voice
> commands. I have talked the dealer down to 25800.00. Edmonds reports the
> TMV at 26565.00 Is there room for more talking or should I bite at this
> price?

That same site lists invoice as $25,551. Why would you pay $250 over
invoice for a new car, let alone a demo with 4,000 miles on it??

You're getting ripped off if you bite.

Re: 2004 Accord price?
 

HomeBrewer wrote:
> I've been shopping for an Accord and have found a demo with 4k miles.
> It is the EX V6, loaded with everything including the navigation and
> voice commands. I have talked the dealer down to 25800.00. Edmonds
> reports the TMV at 26565.00 Is there room for more talking or should
> I bite at this price?

I got mine new for $26k, same configuration in December of '03. Zip 94538

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agreed, sweeten the deal. 4k miles gives you the wiggle room. If you're
totally sold on this vehicle, have them throw in the first few oil changes
along with the 30k maintenance. Or get them to put on fog lights, spoiler,
chrome wheels, etc. Tell them you want a lower then bank APR % financing.

Re-offer with some of the things I've listed. You get hard with them and
they'll do more for you.

good luck
Keith




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> "HomeBrewer" <t3e871XXX@earthlink.net> writes:
>
> > I've been shopping for an Accord and have found a demo with 4k miles. It
> > is the EX V6, loaded with everything including the navigation and voice
> > commands. I have talked the dealer down to 25800.00. Edmonds reports the
> > TMV at 26565.00 Is there room for more talking or should I bite at this
> > price?
>
> That same site lists invoice as $25,551. Why would you pay $250 over
> invoice for a new car, let alone a demo with 4,000 miles on it??
>
> You're getting ripped off if you bite.
>
>

Re: 2004 Accord price?
 

<I've been shopping for an Accord and have found a demo with 4k miles. It is
the EX V6, loaded with everything including the navigation and voice
commands. I have talked the dealer down to 25800.00. Edmonds reports the TMV
at 26565.00 Is there room for more talking or should I bite at this price?>

This is what we paid on a new 2004 Honda Accord EX V6 Auto with Navigation
with 1.9% int at 36 mo and with 0 down (no trade-in). Sale Price (Includes
Destination) - $25,841.21 + tax and title. I got him to throw in a free
cargo tray too! Cincinnati, OH dealer - this was done via the internet -
when we went to a different dealer direct we did not get near as good a
quoted price. Good Luck! DonnaB PS You will love the navigation system -
it is so cool!!!!

Re: 2004 Accord price?
 

> That same site lists invoice as $25,551. Why would you pay $250 over
> invoice for a new car, let alone a demo with 4,000 miles on it??
>
> You're getting ripped off if you bite.

That's why I asked the question here first. The dealer is adding destination
charges - $490, some other BS things like pin striping, some kind of spray
undercoat, trunk tray, etc that adds up to $390, to the invoice. I told him
I can get the same car with 0 miles and in the color I want for $26,141 from
carsdirect.com. He said he could deduct 1700 for mileage on the sticker
price, but not on the invoice price??? I was confused by this.

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> This is what we paid on a new 2004 Honda Accord EX V6 Auto with
Navigation
> with 1.9% int at 36 mo and with 0 down (no trade-in). Sale Price
(Includes
> Destination) - $25,841.21 + tax and title. I got him to throw in a free
> cargo tray too! Cincinnati, OH dealer - this was done via the internet -
> when we went to a different dealer direct we did not get near as good a
> quoted price. Good Luck! DonnaB PS You will love the navigation
system -
> it is so cool!!!!


I've got 60 month 3.75% financing approved. I would never trade a car in to
a dealer either. Ever notice that is the first thing they ask? "are you
trading anything in?" This is because they know that they can make money on
both vehicles then.

This dealer is throwing in the trunk tray, but that doesn't make up for the
mileage. I'm going to hold out and get a new one for invoice or he'll have
to knock off more for the mileage.

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> agreed, sweeten the deal. 4k miles gives you the wiggle room. If you're
> totally sold on this vehicle, have them throw in the first few oil changes
> along with the 30k maintenance. Or get them to put on fog lights,
spoiler,
> chrome wheels, etc. Tell them you want a lower then bank APR % financing.
>
> Re-offer with some of the things I've listed. You get hard with them and
> they'll do more for you.


Thanks for the info, that's exactly what I'll do. I kept insisting the
mileage was the only reason I was concerned and he said he could take off
$1700 (.46 per mile) on the sticker price, but not on the invoice price. I
am still confused why he even told me this? Now I know the can take off that
much either way. I'll post the results.

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<This dealer is throwing in the trunk tray, but that doesn't make up for the
mileage. I'm going to hold out and get a new one for invoice or he'll have
to knock off more for the mileage.>
Another thing - when we went to a local Honda dealer we tried dealing on a
demo that had spoilers and other dealer options on it. Forget it - after an
hour of negotiations and going to the manager for approval we walked out! I
got my price emailed to me from another local dealer using either Kelley or
Edmunds or Car Direct so see if you can get quotes from other online sources
for a new Accord. If you live near Cincinnati, OH I would definately
recommend Honda East - the salesman was Tom O'Leary and the email he sent me
was exactly what we paid - no surprises! But I do think the best deal is
when you are quoted via email from the dealer's internet sales dept. Also
watch out for them tacking on that D&D charge - ours was included thus
making our quote below invoice. DonnaB

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For the money you'll be spending on a new car why settle for a previously
enjoyed car? ... and a brand new car hasn't been beaten to death in 'test'
drives.


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> "HomeBrewer" <t3e871XXX@earthlink.net> writes:
>
> > I've been shopping for an Accord and have found a demo with 4k miles. It
> > is the EX V6, loaded with everything including the navigation and voice
> > commands. I have talked the dealer down to 25800.00. Edmonds reports the
> > TMV at 26565.00 Is there room for more talking or should I bite at this
> > price?
>
> That same site lists invoice as $25,551. Why would you pay $250 over
> invoice for a new car, let alone a demo with 4,000 miles on it??
>
> You're getting ripped off if you bite.
>
>


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Re: 2004 Accord price?
 

In article <X9Uqc.118346$Ik.9932517@attbi_s53> "L Alpert"
<alpertl@xxcomcast.net> writes:

>HomeBrewer wrote:
>> I've been shopping for an Accord and have found a demo with 4k miles.
>> It is the EX V6, loaded with everything including the navigation and
>> voice commands. I have talked the dealer down to 25800.00. Edmonds
>> reports the TMV at 26565.00 Is there room for more talking or should
>> I bite at this price?

>I got mine new for $26k, same configuration in December of '03. Zip 94538

Depends on where you are.
In Houston, TX (zip 77082) you can get the EX/V6 w/spoiler(without the nav
package) for $24,500 total drive out (meaning that # includes dest chg,
tax, title & lic). The same car with 400 miles (pre-sold owner return) is
avail for $23,500 (drive-out). The nav package should add about $1000 to
the above figures, so anything $26k or less is a fair and reasonable
price.

It really doesn't matter how much dickering you do, someone will always
come along offering to sell it to you for a few dollars less. The
important thing is to arrive at a price where the differences are small. I
think you're there.

Re: 2004 Accord price?
 

In article <2h3htuF8gql6U1@uni-berlin.de> "HomeBrewer"
<t3e871XXX@earthlink.net> writes:

>> That same site lists invoice as $25,551. Why would you pay $250 over
>> invoice for a new car, let alone a demo with 4,000 miles on it??
>>
>> You're getting ripped off if you bite.

>That's why I asked the question here first. The dealer is adding destination
>charges - $490, some other BS things like pin striping, some kind of spray
>undercoat, trunk tray, etc that adds up to $390, to the invoice. I told him
>I can get the same car with 0 miles and in the color I want for $26,141 from
>carsdirect.com. He said he could deduct 1700 for mileage on the sticker
>price, but not on the invoice price??? I was confused by this.

Destination charges are real and are actual out of pocket costs paid by
the dealer to the trucking company. There is no markup in the destination
charge. Folding that cost into the price is proper.

However, a car w/1700 miles on it is a used car. Miles are miles, whether
the dealer put them on it (i.e., a demo) or a previous owner put them on
it. A fair allowance for the mileage would be to deduct 1.7% from your
final negotiated price. In other words, two identical cars with
identical features & options, only diff is one has 1700 miles on it. You
should be able to buy the car w/1700 miles on it for at least 1.7% less
than one that is brand new (less than 50 miles on it).

All above notwithstanding, bear in mind that it is now late May and soon
to be June. The 2004 Accord will be celebrating a birthday in another
couple months when the 2005s come out.

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> Destination charges are real and are actual out of pocket costs paid by
> the dealer to the trucking company. There is no markup in the destination
> charge. Folding that cost into the price is proper.

I know the destination charges are actual, the other stuff is BS, whether
it's actual or not. For example, mug guards, pin striping and spray
protectant and a trunk tray - They said actual cost was $390.

> However, a car w/1700 miles on it is a used car. Miles are miles, whether
> the dealer put them on it (i.e., a demo) or a previous owner put them on
> it. A fair allowance for the mileage would be to deduct 1.7% from your
> final negotiated price. In other words, two identical cars with
> identical features & options, only diff is one has 1700 miles on it. You
> should be able to buy the car w/1700 miles on it for at least 1.7% less
> than one that is brand new (less than 50 miles on it).

The car has 4600 miles, so should I figure the invoice price minus 4.6% or
the MSRP minus 4.6%?

Invoice= 25,551
- 4.6% 1,175.35
= 24,375.65 + 490 DD +TTT
I've got them down to 25,100 +TTT right now. I doubt I could get any lower,
and I'm wearing out - it's been 2 days of negotiations. I'm going let them
sit on the car for a few more days

> All above notwithstanding, bear in mind that it is now late May and soon
> to be June. The 2004 Accord will be celebrating a birthday in another
> couple months when the 2005s come out.

Traditionally, how much should that drop the prices?

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> For the money you'll be spending on a new car why settle for a previously
> enjoyed car? ... and a brand new car hasn't been beaten to death in
'test'
> drives.

One reason is the bottom line - the cheapest I can get the same "new" car is
$28,768.00 out the door - tax and all

This car I can get out the door for $26,898.00- almost 2k less. Are those
4600 miles worth the 2k? That's what I have to decide I guess.

Using the above two numbers - If I buy both cars, drive them off the lot,
what are they worth now? I'd guess the new one will lose 3500 and the demo
would lose 1500.

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> I got mine new for $26k, same configuration in December of '03. Zip 94538

Is that with delivery + ttt or base price?

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