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mack 06-23-2007 03:10 PM

Re: 2004 Kia Optima
 

"Jeff DeWitt" <JeffDeWitt@nc.rr.com> wrote in message
news:467c94cb$0$24778$4c368faf@roadrunner.com...
> Costs me about $12 and takes maybe 10 min.
>
> I do it myself, about every 3000-3500 miles, oil is a LOT cheaper than an
> engine.
>
> Jeff DeWitt


Okay, Jeff, but if your oil change takes only ten minutes, you must have
either a hydraulic hoist or a lubrication pit built into your garage. I
(and most people) couldn't get the front wheels onto jacks in ten minutes.



Ken Weitzel 06-23-2007 03:36 PM

Re: 2004 Kia Optima
 
mack wrote:
> "Jeff DeWitt" <JeffDeWitt@nc.rr.com> wrote in message
> news:467c94cb$0$24778$4c368faf@roadrunner.com...
>> Costs me about $12 and takes maybe 10 min.
>>
>> I do it myself, about every 3000-3500 miles, oil is a LOT cheaper than an
>> engine.
>>
>> Jeff DeWitt

>
> Okay, Jeff, but if your oil change takes only ten minutes, you must have
> either a hydraulic hoist or a lubrication pit built into your garage. I
> (and most people) couldn't get the front wheels onto jacks in ten minutes.


Yikes, take me ten minutes to get the durned jack out of the trunk and
remember how the new fangled things work :)

Course I'm old and long retired anyways, so who cares?

Reminds me - how many old retired guys does it take to change a light
bulb?

Just one. But it takes him all day.

Take care.

Ken

Ken Weitzel 06-23-2007 03:36 PM

Re: 2004 Kia Optima
 
mack wrote:
> "Jeff DeWitt" <JeffDeWitt@nc.rr.com> wrote in message
> news:467c94cb$0$24778$4c368faf@roadrunner.com...
>> Costs me about $12 and takes maybe 10 min.
>>
>> I do it myself, about every 3000-3500 miles, oil is a LOT cheaper than an
>> engine.
>>
>> Jeff DeWitt

>
> Okay, Jeff, but if your oil change takes only ten minutes, you must have
> either a hydraulic hoist or a lubrication pit built into your garage. I
> (and most people) couldn't get the front wheels onto jacks in ten minutes.


Yikes, take me ten minutes to get the durned jack out of the trunk and
remember how the new fangled things work :)

Course I'm old and long retired anyways, so who cares?

Reminds me - how many old retired guys does it take to change a light
bulb?

Just one. But it takes him all day.

Take care.

Ken

Ken Weitzel 06-23-2007 03:36 PM

Re: 2004 Kia Optima
 
mack wrote:
> "Jeff DeWitt" <JeffDeWitt@nc.rr.com> wrote in message
> news:467c94cb$0$24778$4c368faf@roadrunner.com...
>> Costs me about $12 and takes maybe 10 min.
>>
>> I do it myself, about every 3000-3500 miles, oil is a LOT cheaper than an
>> engine.
>>
>> Jeff DeWitt

>
> Okay, Jeff, but if your oil change takes only ten minutes, you must have
> either a hydraulic hoist or a lubrication pit built into your garage. I
> (and most people) couldn't get the front wheels onto jacks in ten minutes.


Yikes, take me ten minutes to get the durned jack out of the trunk and
remember how the new fangled things work :)

Course I'm old and long retired anyways, so who cares?

Reminds me - how many old retired guys does it take to change a light
bulb?

Just one. But it takes him all day.

Take care.

Ken

mookie 06-23-2007 03:43 PM

Re: 2004 Kia Optima
 
"Ken Weitzel" <kweitzel@shaw.ca> wrote in message
news:fDefi.56956$xq1.45003@pd7urf1no...
> mack wrote:
>> "Jeff DeWitt" <JeffDeWitt@nc.rr.com> wrote in message
>> news:467c94cb$0$24778$4c368faf@roadrunner.com...
>>> Costs me about $12 and takes maybe 10 min.
>>>
>>> I do it myself, about every 3000-3500 miles, oil is a LOT cheaper than
>>> an engine.
>>>
>>> Jeff DeWitt

>>
>> Okay, Jeff, but if your oil change takes only ten minutes, you must have
>> either a hydraulic hoist or a lubrication pit built into your garage.
>> I (and most people) couldn't get the front wheels onto jacks in ten
>> minutes.

>
> Yikes, take me ten minutes to get the durned jack out of the trunk and
> remember how the new fangled things work :)
>
> Course I'm old and long retired anyways, so who cares?
>
> Reminds me - how many old retired guys does it take to change a light
> bulb?
>
> Just one. But it takes him all day.
>
> Take care.
>
> Ken


In the case of this retired guy, it takes me three days - one to decide if
the bulb is, in fact, burned out. One to actually decide to change it, and
one to actually get it done.

As for the ten minutes, I make the oil change a complete check over. The
Optima is the car wife drives, so I want no surprises for her. I check the
tires, lube the door hinges, check the bulbs, etc., etc., etc. Whole
process, including getting the ramps out/put away takes ½ hour. I know
3,000 may be a little soon in today's oil world, but it forces me under the
car to check it out.

Rich


mookie 06-23-2007 03:43 PM

Re: 2004 Kia Optima
 
"Ken Weitzel" <kweitzel@shaw.ca> wrote in message
news:fDefi.56956$xq1.45003@pd7urf1no...
> mack wrote:
>> "Jeff DeWitt" <JeffDeWitt@nc.rr.com> wrote in message
>> news:467c94cb$0$24778$4c368faf@roadrunner.com...
>>> Costs me about $12 and takes maybe 10 min.
>>>
>>> I do it myself, about every 3000-3500 miles, oil is a LOT cheaper than
>>> an engine.
>>>
>>> Jeff DeWitt

>>
>> Okay, Jeff, but if your oil change takes only ten minutes, you must have
>> either a hydraulic hoist or a lubrication pit built into your garage.
>> I (and most people) couldn't get the front wheels onto jacks in ten
>> minutes.

>
> Yikes, take me ten minutes to get the durned jack out of the trunk and
> remember how the new fangled things work :)
>
> Course I'm old and long retired anyways, so who cares?
>
> Reminds me - how many old retired guys does it take to change a light
> bulb?
>
> Just one. But it takes him all day.
>
> Take care.
>
> Ken


In the case of this retired guy, it takes me three days - one to decide if
the bulb is, in fact, burned out. One to actually decide to change it, and
one to actually get it done.

As for the ten minutes, I make the oil change a complete check over. The
Optima is the car wife drives, so I want no surprises for her. I check the
tires, lube the door hinges, check the bulbs, etc., etc., etc. Whole
process, including getting the ramps out/put away takes ½ hour. I know
3,000 may be a little soon in today's oil world, but it forces me under the
car to check it out.

Rich


mookie 06-23-2007 03:43 PM

Re: 2004 Kia Optima
 
"Ken Weitzel" <kweitzel@shaw.ca> wrote in message
news:fDefi.56956$xq1.45003@pd7urf1no...
> mack wrote:
>> "Jeff DeWitt" <JeffDeWitt@nc.rr.com> wrote in message
>> news:467c94cb$0$24778$4c368faf@roadrunner.com...
>>> Costs me about $12 and takes maybe 10 min.
>>>
>>> I do it myself, about every 3000-3500 miles, oil is a LOT cheaper than
>>> an engine.
>>>
>>> Jeff DeWitt

>>
>> Okay, Jeff, but if your oil change takes only ten minutes, you must have
>> either a hydraulic hoist or a lubrication pit built into your garage.
>> I (and most people) couldn't get the front wheels onto jacks in ten
>> minutes.

>
> Yikes, take me ten minutes to get the durned jack out of the trunk and
> remember how the new fangled things work :)
>
> Course I'm old and long retired anyways, so who cares?
>
> Reminds me - how many old retired guys does it take to change a light
> bulb?
>
> Just one. But it takes him all day.
>
> Take care.
>
> Ken


In the case of this retired guy, it takes me three days - one to decide if
the bulb is, in fact, burned out. One to actually decide to change it, and
one to actually get it done.

As for the ten minutes, I make the oil change a complete check over. The
Optima is the car wife drives, so I want no surprises for her. I check the
tires, lube the door hinges, check the bulbs, etc., etc., etc. Whole
process, including getting the ramps out/put away takes ½ hour. I know
3,000 may be a little soon in today's oil world, but it forces me under the
car to check it out.

Rich


Jeff DeWitt 06-23-2007 03:58 PM

Re: 2004 Kia Optima
 
mack wrote:
> "Jeff DeWitt" <JeffDeWitt@nc.rr.com> wrote in message
> news:467c94cb$0$24778$4c368faf@roadrunner.com...
>> Costs me about $12 and takes maybe 10 min.
>>
>> I do it myself, about every 3000-3500 miles, oil is a LOT cheaper than an
>> engine.
>>
>> Jeff DeWitt

>
> Okay, Jeff, but if your oil change takes only ten minutes, you must have
> either a hydraulic hoist or a lubrication pit built into your garage. I
> (and most people) couldn't get the front wheels onto jacks in ten minutes.
>
>

Nope, neither one, I've got a Cherokee and don't have to lift it up to
change the oil, same is true of my Studebaker Champ.

Jeff DeWitt

Jeff DeWitt 06-23-2007 03:58 PM

Re: 2004 Kia Optima
 
mack wrote:
> "Jeff DeWitt" <JeffDeWitt@nc.rr.com> wrote in message
> news:467c94cb$0$24778$4c368faf@roadrunner.com...
>> Costs me about $12 and takes maybe 10 min.
>>
>> I do it myself, about every 3000-3500 miles, oil is a LOT cheaper than an
>> engine.
>>
>> Jeff DeWitt

>
> Okay, Jeff, but if your oil change takes only ten minutes, you must have
> either a hydraulic hoist or a lubrication pit built into your garage. I
> (and most people) couldn't get the front wheels onto jacks in ten minutes.
>
>

Nope, neither one, I've got a Cherokee and don't have to lift it up to
change the oil, same is true of my Studebaker Champ.

Jeff DeWitt

Jeff DeWitt 06-23-2007 03:58 PM

Re: 2004 Kia Optima
 
mack wrote:
> "Jeff DeWitt" <JeffDeWitt@nc.rr.com> wrote in message
> news:467c94cb$0$24778$4c368faf@roadrunner.com...
>> Costs me about $12 and takes maybe 10 min.
>>
>> I do it myself, about every 3000-3500 miles, oil is a LOT cheaper than an
>> engine.
>>
>> Jeff DeWitt

>
> Okay, Jeff, but if your oil change takes only ten minutes, you must have
> either a hydraulic hoist or a lubrication pit built into your garage. I
> (and most people) couldn't get the front wheels onto jacks in ten minutes.
>
>

Nope, neither one, I've got a Cherokee and don't have to lift it up to
change the oil, same is true of my Studebaker Champ.

Jeff DeWitt

Edwin Pawlowski 06-23-2007 04:20 PM

Re: 2004 Kia Optima
 

"mookie" <z@tink.net> wrote in message
> As for the ten minutes, I make the oil change a complete check over. The
> Optima is the car wife drives, so I want no surprises for her. I check
> the tires, lube the door hinges, check the bulbs, etc., etc., etc. Whole
> process, including getting the ramps out/put away takes ½ hour.


Yep, I used to do it like that too. Last time though, was my '91 Regal.
What PITA to get to the filter without a lift (I have ramps). After that I
found it much easier to pay $24.95, especially in the winter. When it is
on the lift at Bill's, it take a look underneath while he is changing the
filter and checking the tires.



Edwin Pawlowski 06-23-2007 04:20 PM

Re: 2004 Kia Optima
 

"mookie" <z@tink.net> wrote in message
> As for the ten minutes, I make the oil change a complete check over. The
> Optima is the car wife drives, so I want no surprises for her. I check
> the tires, lube the door hinges, check the bulbs, etc., etc., etc. Whole
> process, including getting the ramps out/put away takes ½ hour.


Yep, I used to do it like that too. Last time though, was my '91 Regal.
What PITA to get to the filter without a lift (I have ramps). After that I
found it much easier to pay $24.95, especially in the winter. When it is
on the lift at Bill's, it take a look underneath while he is changing the
filter and checking the tires.



Edwin Pawlowski 06-23-2007 04:20 PM

Re: 2004 Kia Optima
 

"mookie" <z@tink.net> wrote in message
> As for the ten minutes, I make the oil change a complete check over. The
> Optima is the car wife drives, so I want no surprises for her. I check
> the tires, lube the door hinges, check the bulbs, etc., etc., etc. Whole
> process, including getting the ramps out/put away takes ½ hour.


Yep, I used to do it like that too. Last time though, was my '91 Regal.
What PITA to get to the filter without a lift (I have ramps). After that I
found it much easier to pay $24.95, especially in the winter. When it is
on the lift at Bill's, it take a look underneath while he is changing the
filter and checking the tires.



mookie 06-23-2007 04:41 PM

Re: 2004 Kia Optima
 
> my Studebaker Champ.

Now THAT brings back some memories....

mookie 06-23-2007 04:41 PM

Re: 2004 Kia Optima
 
> my Studebaker Champ.

Now THAT brings back some memories....


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