Guy

Toyota is doing the same thing. Their make you believe that a hybrid vehicle
is cleaner than a 4 cylinder. However, if you check the smog index of both
cars, either Accord or Camry, the smog index of 4 cylinders (PZEV) is about
the same as Insight and Prius. Consumer Report also indicates that Accord
Hybrid will not save you too much gas, either.


"Elmo P. Shagnasty" <elmop@nastydesigns.com> wrote in message
news:elmop-DA4ED9.13083519042005@text.usenetserver.com...
> In article <1113913686.622771.268980@g14g2000cwa.googlegroups .com>,
> "DCDev" <vballdutchess@yahoo.com> wrote:
>
> > Does anyone have any experience or opinions regarding the new hybrids?
> > I know they're more expensive, but they have both the v6 and good gas
> > mileage.
>
> Not GREAT gas mileage.
>
> You'll get much better out of a 4 cyl Accord. Honda's philosophy on
> their hybrid Accord is that you'll get great 6 cyl power with better
> than typical 6 cyl gas mileage.

Charles Lasitter

"DCDev" <vballdutchess@yahoo.com> wrote in
news:1114009376.287839.304360@g14g2000cwa.googlegr oups.com:

> Then, I drove the v6, and there was a major difference. The v6
> climbed the hills with no problem at all. The gas efficiency is a
> downfall, but my current vehicle has only been getting about 20
> mpg, and I've been surviving on that.

How many people do you have to haul comfortably and how often?

The V6 coupe would give you 21/30 (EPA mpg), and you'd have a much
sportier package.

(If I ever went with the V6 coupe I'd have to have the six speed
stick.)

-- CL.

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"DCDev" <vballdutchess@yahoo.com> wrote in
news:1114009376.287839.304360@g14g2000cwa.googlegr oups.com:

> Then, I drove the v6, and there was a major difference. The v6
> climbed the hills with no problem at all. The gas efficiency is a
> downfall, but my current vehicle has only been getting about 20
> mpg, and I've been surviving on that.

How many people do you have to haul comfortably and how often?

The V6 coupe would give you 21/30 (EPA mpg), and you'd have a much
sportier package.

(If I ever went with the V6 coupe I'd have to have the six speed
stick.)

-- CL.

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G-Man

Drive both, it's the only thing that should make the decisoin. I have a
2001 EX V6, I went to get a new Accord, and drove both. I just couldn't go
back to the 4-cyl. On the other hand, the 4 cyl gets better mileage, and no
longer requires a timing belt change. I just got my son a 2005 LX Coupe.

G-Man



"DCDev" <vballdutchess@yahoo.com> wrote in message
news:1113831457.817713.240790@z14g2000cwz.googlegr oups.com...
> Greetings,
> I am looking to buy a 2005 Accord, but would like some advice on a
> few questions? First, 4 or 6 cylinder? I currently own a '94 6
> cylinder maxima (160 hp). I live in the lower hudson valley region of
> new york. I do a great deal of driving, both highway and local roads.
> I commute 35 miles each way to work, and I frequently drive to long
> island. This means that I drive in every condition -- flat ground,
> large hills, high speed, stop-and go traffic, snow, etc. Which engine
> would you recommend? I know this is a recent model, but what is the
> difference in maintenance and reliability? Handling? DIY maintenance?
> Money is an issue because I am a recent college grad without much of
> it. However, I am willing to finance and spend the extra if there is a
> big gain in the v6.
> In addition to the cylinders, does the accord have a timing belt
> or a timing chain?
> As for pricing, does anyone have an idea of what the wholesale
> price for the accord would be in new york? If anyone else has bought a
> car in this region, would you mind telling me how much I can expect to
> knock off the sticker?
> Are there any common problems that have arisen with this model?
> Are there any alternative cars you would recommend looking at? Thank
> you for any advice you can offer...
>

hondaman

i'd get the 4 cylinder but 1 with a vtec engine. they work hard use less gas
and are very reliable.


jeff

"DCDev" <vballdutchess@yahoo.com> wrote in message
news:1113831457.817713.240790@z14g2000cwz.googlegr oups.com...
> Greetings,
> I am looking to buy a 2005 Accord, but would like some advice on a
> few questions? First, 4 or 6 cylinder? I currently own a '94 6
> cylinder maxima (160 hp). I live in the lower hudson valley region of
> new york. I do a great deal of driving, both highway and local roads.
> I commute 35 miles each way to work, and I frequently drive to long
> island. This means that I drive in every condition -- flat ground,
> large hills, high speed, stop-and go traffic, snow, etc. Which engine
> would you recommend? I know this is a recent model, but what is the
> difference in maintenance and reliability? Handling? DIY maintenance?
> Money is an issue because I am a recent college grad without much of
> it. However, I am willing to finance and spend the extra if there is a
> big gain in the v6.
> In addition to the cylinders, does the accord have a timing belt
> or a timing chain?
> As for pricing, does anyone have an idea of what the wholesale
> price for the accord would be in new york? If anyone else has bought a
> car in this region, would you mind telling me how much I can expect to
> knock off the sticker?
> Are there any common problems that have arisen with this model?
> Are there any alternative cars you would recommend looking at? Thank
> you for any advice you can offer...
>

DCDev

Thank you everyone. After reading all the advice and test driving them
both, the only difference seems to be power and fuel efficiency. I
have decided to go with the v-6. Although I'll pay more for gas, which
could really sky-rocket in the coming months, I would regret the
purchase of the 4 cyl everytime I try to climb a hill. The four
cylinder would be great if I lived on Long Island, but up here in the
Hudson Valley, the 6 cylinder just seems better suited for the job.
Again, thank you to everyone for sharing your opinions.

halo2 guy

good luck to you...stay away from the paint sealant, leather protector,
cloth protector and undercoat BS!

Just buy the car with no frilly add ons.

"DCDev" <vballdutchess@yahoo.com> wrote in message
news:1114451148.694067.259430@f14g2000cwb.googlegr oups.com...
> Thank you everyone. After reading all the advice and test driving them
> both, the only difference seems to be power and fuel efficiency. I
> have decided to go with the v-6. Although I'll pay more for gas, which
> could really sky-rocket in the coming months, I would regret the
> purchase of the 4 cyl everytime I try to climb a hill. The four
> cylinder would be great if I lived on Long Island, but up here in the
> Hudson Valley, the 6 cylinder just seems better suited for the job.
> Again, thank you to everyone for sharing your opinions.
>

Seth

"DCDev" <vballdutchess@yahoo.com> wrote in message
news:1114451148.694067.259430@f14g2000cwb.googlegr oups.com...
> Thank you everyone. After reading all the advice and test driving them
> both, the only difference seems to be power and fuel efficiency. I
> have decided to go with the v-6. Although I'll pay more for gas, which
> could really sky-rocket in the coming months, I would regret the
> purchase of the 4 cyl everytime I try to climb a hill. The four
> cylinder would be great if I lived on Long Island, but up here in the
> Hudson Valley, the 6 cylinder just seems better suited for the job.
> Again, thank you to everyone for sharing your opinions.

Living here in the Hudson Valley, I have to agree.

Got mine at Friendly Honda.

hondaman

you would still be better off with the 4 cylinder but to each his own. it's
a dohc i-vtec engine while the 6 cyl. is only a sohc. honda makes probably
the best 4 cylinder engines on the market. you'll probably wish you had the
4 cylinder later. oh well.

jeff

"DCDev" <vballdutchess@yahoo.com> wrote in message
news:1113831457.817713.240790@z14g2000cwz.googlegr oups.com...
> Greetings,
> I am looking to buy a 2005 Accord, but would like some advice on a
> few questions? First, 4 or 6 cylinder? I currently own a '94 6
> cylinder maxima (160 hp). I live in the lower hudson valley region of
> new york. I do a great deal of driving, both highway and local roads.
> I commute 35 miles each way to work, and I frequently drive to long
> island. This means that I drive in every condition -- flat ground,
> large hills, high speed, stop-and go traffic, snow, etc. Which engine
> would you recommend? I know this is a recent model, but what is the
> difference in maintenance and reliability? Handling? DIY maintenance?
> Money is an issue because I am a recent college grad without much of
> it. However, I am willing to finance and spend the extra if there is a
> big gain in the v6.
> In addition to the cylinders, does the accord have a timing belt
> or a timing chain?
> As for pricing, does anyone have an idea of what the wholesale
> price for the accord would be in new york? If anyone else has bought a
> car in this region, would you mind telling me how much I can expect to
> knock off the sticker?
> Are there any common problems that have arisen with this model?
> Are there any alternative cars you would recommend looking at? Thank
> you for any advice you can offer...
>

L Alpert

hondaman wrote:
> you would still be better off with the 4 cylinder but to each his
> own. it's a dohc i-vtec engine while the 6 cyl. is only a sohc. honda
> makes probably the best 4 cylinder engines on the market. you'll
> probably wish you had the 4 cylinder later. oh well.
>
> jeff

I depends. I have the 6, but after 15 months, I still have < 10K miles on
the car. I only fill up every 2-3 weeks. Now that the weather is getting
nicer and we won't see rain for the next 6 months or so, I'll ride my bike
to work most of the time (only 5.5 miles). Usually walk or ride my bike
most other places.....


>
> "DCDev" <vballdutchess@yahoo.com> wrote in message
> news:1113831457.817713.240790@z14g2000cwz.googlegr oups.com...
>> Greetings,
>> I am looking to buy a 2005 Accord, but would like some advice on
>> a few questions? First, 4 or 6 cylinder? I currently own a '94 6
>> cylinder maxima (160 hp). I live in the lower hudson valley region
>> of new york. I do a great deal of driving, both highway and local
>> roads. I commute 35 miles each way to work, and I frequently drive
>> to long island. This means that I drive in every condition -- flat
>> ground, large hills, high speed, stop-and go traffic, snow, etc. Which
>> engine would you recommend? I know this is a recent model,
>> but what is the difference in maintenance and reliability? Handling? DIY
>> maintenance? Money is an issue because I am a recent
>> college grad without much of it. However, I am willing to finance
>> and spend the extra if there is a big gain in the v6.
>> In addition to the cylinders, does the accord have a timing belt
>> or a timing chain?
>> As for pricing, does anyone have an idea of what the wholesale
>> price for the accord would be in new york? If anyone else has
>> bought a car in this region, would you mind telling me how much I
>> can expect to knock off the sticker?
>> Are there any common problems that have arisen with this model?
>> Are there any alternative cars you would recommend looking at? Thank
>> you for any advice you can offer...