Re: 2006 Civic 38 mpg manual 40 mpg automatic?
 

"TeGGeR®" <tegger@tegger.c0m> wrote in message
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>
> I'm only 43, so my Aspirin days are a few years ahead. :)

LOL! You're lucky. My knees started giving me problems when I was in my late
teens. Thank goodness that all shifting doesn't require the use of a clutch.
{;^)

Brian

Re: 2006 Civic 38 mpg manual 40 mpg automatic?
 

On Mon, 19 Sep 2005 06:27:27 -0700, jim beam <nospam@example.net>
wrote:
>> Even my funky Accord auto is very, very good at such things, it's only
>> when you want a downshift and try to get it through the gas pedal that
>> it sticks and stumbles.
>
>if that's happening, there's something wrong.

Damn straight, but I suspect it's wrong with most of the cars out
there, Honda just don't grok automatics. On my Acura, change of fluid
cleared up the identical problem ... and it was back in 60 days.

I'll probably whine to the dealer, I'm about due for the 30k. Besides
the little matter of the tranny, rubber gasket on the sunroof is
slipping off, and I think the right front speaker is blown, too.
We'll see what gets fixed.

J.

Re: 2006 Civic 38 mpg manual 40 mpg automatic?
 

JXStern wrote:
> On Mon, 19 Sep 2005 06:27:27 -0700, jim beam <nospam@example.net>
> wrote:
>
>>>Even my funky Accord auto is very, very good at such things, it's only
>>>when you want a downshift and try to get it through the gas pedal that
>>>it sticks and stumbles.
>>
>>if that's happening, there's something wrong.
>
>
> Damn straight, but I suspect it's wrong with most of the cars out
> there, Honda just don't grok automatics.

eh? name a single planetary gear automatic that will routinely give you
300k+ miles! or with the same mechanical efficiency...

> On my Acura, change of fluid
> cleared up the identical problem ... and it was back in 60 days.
>
> I'll probably whine to the dealer, I'm about due for the 30k. Besides
> the little matter of the tranny, rubber gasket on the sunroof is
> slipping off, and I think the right front speaker is blown, too.
> We'll see what gets fixed.
>
> J.
>

Re: 2006 Civic 38 mpg manual 40 mpg automatic?
 

On Tue, 20 Sep 2005 05:28:02 -0700, jim beam <nospam@example.net>
wrote:
>> Damn straight, but I suspect it's wrong with most of the cars out
>> there, Honda just don't grok automatics.
>
>eh? name a single planetary gear automatic that will routinely give you
>300k+ miles! or with the same mechanical efficiency...

It doesn't work right pretty much from day one, somehow if it lasts
that way for fifteen years I'm not so thrilled.

Not to mention the Acura and Honda 6-cyl autos that leave people
stranded under 30k.

J.

Re: 2006 Civic 38 mpg manual 40 mpg automatic?
 

"jim beam" <nospam@example.net> wrote in message
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>
> eh? name a single planetary gear automatic that will routinely give you
> 300k+ miles! or with the same mechanical efficiency...
>

The AW-71 transmissions Volvo used in their legendary 240 and 740 series in
the '80s were truly lifetime transmissions. If any of them have failed I
haven't seen it on the alt.autos.volvo group, and ours is going strong at
somewhere around 230K miles, even connected to the turbo engine. But even
the lockup version AW-71L isn't as efficient as a manual gearbox.

Mike

Re: 2006 Civic 38 mpg manual 40 mpg automatic?
 

"A. Smith" <ecarecar@yahoo.com> wrote in message
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> Honda's web site says the 2006 Civic gets EPA
> 38 mpg with the manual transmission and 40 mpg
> with the automatic.
>
> What's "wrong" here?

Nothing is wrong. The new automatics have extra tall over-drives for
greater highway fuel economy. This more than makes up for the energy lost
in the torque converter. Your typical 5-speed auto today is a 3rd gear at
~1:1 then 4th is over-drive and 5th is an even taller gear. This does not
apply to 5s sports car transmissions.

I think we can thank the Koreans for these well designed, fuel efficient
Japanese transmissions (relative to previously mass produced ones). In
fact, I thank the Koreans for all the great value that Japanese
manufacturers are giving us. Kudos to the Koreans!