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Re: 2008 Honda Accord
"Jim Yanik" <jyanik@abuse.gov> wrote in message news:Xns99B768393ABCFjyanikkuanet@64.209.0.86... >> >>>We've owned several LX Accords through out the years and the 2008 >>>model, is by far, the worst of the bunch. >> >> 3400 pounds, that's what jumps out at me. > > Every automaker keeps making their autos bigger and heavier with each new > model. They never learn. > I can recall when the Accord was the size of today's Civics. Agreed. Although gas mileage is much better, the cars are also getting bloated. Personally I really liked the design/style of some of the older Accords vs. the newer ones. If they want performance and gas mileage, just think what they can do if the cars were smaller, lighter and more nimble. >> I expect to look for the TSX, or maybe a Civic, next time around. Or, >> y'know, a non-Honda product. >> >> J. >> >> > > Neither Honda or Acura currently make anything that interests me. > They need to bring back the Prelude and Integra.Maybe the CRX,too. I miss the Prelude (used to have an '89) and Integra too. More style and character. -Dave > -- > Jim Yanik > jyanik > at > kua.net |
Re: 2008 Honda Accord
"Dave L" <davelieuREMOVEME@yahoo.com> wrote in
news:8Oqdne4hbtSquWbbnZ2dnUVZ_qiinZ2d@comcast.com: > > "Jim Yanik" <jyanik@abuse.gov> wrote in message > news:Xns99B768393ABCFjyanikkuanet@64.209.0.86... >>> >>>>We've owned several LX Accords through out the years and the 2008 >>>>model, is by far, the worst of the bunch. >>> >>> 3400 pounds, that's what jumps out at me. >> >> Every automaker keeps making their autos bigger and heavier with each >> new model. They never learn. >> I can recall when the Accord was the size of today's Civics. > > Agreed. Although gas mileage is much better, the cars are also > getting bloated. Personally I really liked the design/style of some > of the older Accords vs. the newer ones. If they want performance and > gas mileage, just think what they can do if the cars were smaller, > lighter and more nimble. > >>> I expect to look for the TSX, or maybe a Civic, next time around. >>> Or, y'know, a non-Honda product. >>> >>> J. >>> >>> >> >> Neither Honda or Acura currently make anything that interests me. >> They need to bring back the Prelude and Integra.Maybe the CRX,too. > > I miss the Prelude (used to have an '89) and Integra too. More style > and character. > > -Dave > >> -- >> Jim Yanik >> jyanik >> at >> kua.net > > > I owned 86 SI and 90 SI Preludes.In 93,TWO hailstorms trashed my 90(only 20 K miles on it!),and the Lude of that date was ugly,so I went with the Integra GS-R. That got stolen 29 June 07. Couldn't find a 98-01 Prelude at a price I could afford,so I got a Nissan SE-R Spec V. DEFINITELY not Honda quality. I avoided the Hondas because of their theft problems.I would have bought another GS-R except that I couldn't keep it from getting stolen/stripped,too. 2007 is NOT my year for autos.... -- Jim Yanik jyanik at kua.net |
Re: 2008 Honda Accord
"Dave L" <davelieuREMOVEME@yahoo.com> wrote in
news:8Oqdne4hbtSquWbbnZ2dnUVZ_qiinZ2d@comcast.com: > > "Jim Yanik" <jyanik@abuse.gov> wrote in message > news:Xns99B768393ABCFjyanikkuanet@64.209.0.86... >>> >>>>We've owned several LX Accords through out the years and the 2008 >>>>model, is by far, the worst of the bunch. >>> >>> 3400 pounds, that's what jumps out at me. >> >> Every automaker keeps making their autos bigger and heavier with each >> new model. They never learn. >> I can recall when the Accord was the size of today's Civics. > > Agreed. Although gas mileage is much better, the cars are also > getting bloated. Personally I really liked the design/style of some > of the older Accords vs. the newer ones. If they want performance and > gas mileage, just think what they can do if the cars were smaller, > lighter and more nimble. > >>> I expect to look for the TSX, or maybe a Civic, next time around. >>> Or, y'know, a non-Honda product. >>> >>> J. >>> >>> >> >> Neither Honda or Acura currently make anything that interests me. >> They need to bring back the Prelude and Integra.Maybe the CRX,too. > > I miss the Prelude (used to have an '89) and Integra too. More style > and character. > > -Dave > >> -- >> Jim Yanik >> jyanik >> at >> kua.net > > > I owned 86 SI and 90 SI Preludes.In 93,TWO hailstorms trashed my 90(only 20 K miles on it!),and the Lude of that date was ugly,so I went with the Integra GS-R. That got stolen 29 June 07. Couldn't find a 98-01 Prelude at a price I could afford,so I got a Nissan SE-R Spec V. DEFINITELY not Honda quality. I avoided the Hondas because of their theft problems.I would have bought another GS-R except that I couldn't keep it from getting stolen/stripped,too. 2007 is NOT my year for autos.... -- Jim Yanik jyanik at kua.net |
Re: 2008 Honda Accord
"Jim Yanik" <jyanik@abuse.gov> wrote in message news:Xns99B85EB767FDAjyanikkuanet@64.209.0.85... > "Dave L" <davelieuREMOVEME@yahoo.com> wrote in > news:8Oqdne4hbtSquWbbnZ2dnUVZ_qiinZ2d@comcast.com: > >> >> "Jim Yanik" <jyanik@abuse.gov> wrote in message >> news:Xns99B768393ABCFjyanikkuanet@64.209.0.86... >>>> >>>>>We've owned several LX Accords through out the years and the 2008 >>>>>model, is by far, the worst of the bunch. >>>> >>>> 3400 pounds, that's what jumps out at me. >>> >>> Every automaker keeps making their autos bigger and heavier with each >>> new model. They never learn. >>> I can recall when the Accord was the size of today's Civics. >> >> Agreed. Although gas mileage is much better, the cars are also >> getting bloated. Personally I really liked the design/style of some >> of the older Accords vs. the newer ones. If they want performance and >> gas mileage, just think what they can do if the cars were smaller, >> lighter and more nimble. >> >>>> I expect to look for the TSX, or maybe a Civic, next time around. >>>> Or, y'know, a non-Honda product. >>>> >>>> J. >>>> >>>> >>> >>> Neither Honda or Acura currently make anything that interests me. >>> They need to bring back the Prelude and Integra.Maybe the CRX,too. >> >> I miss the Prelude (used to have an '89) and Integra too. More style >> and character. >> >> -Dave >> >>> -- >>> Jim Yanik >>> jyanik >>> at >>> kua.net >> >> >> > > I owned 86 SI and 90 SI Preludes.In 93,TWO hailstorms trashed my 90(only > 20 > K miles on it!),and the Lude of that date was ugly,so I went with the > Integra GS-R. That got stolen 29 June 07. Couldn't find a 98-01 Prelude at > a price I could afford,so I got a Nissan SE-R Spec V. DEFINITELY not Honda > quality. > I avoided the Hondas because of their theft problems.I would have bought > another GS-R except that I couldn't keep it from getting > stolen/stripped,too. > > 2007 is NOT my year for autos.... > > -- > Jim Yanik > jyanik > at > kua.net Whoa, they must have been some nasty hailstorms! What part of the country are you in? I'll agree with you on the Nissans. I bought a used '92 SE-R and you're right - the fit & finish was not the same as the the Celica I had. It was a blast to drive although the stick shift was the worst compared to the Hondas and Toyota manuals I've owned. I think the Integras had one of the higher theft rates. 2007 is almost over. How else is your Spec V treating you? -Dave |
Re: 2008 Honda Accord
"Jim Yanik" <jyanik@abuse.gov> wrote in message news:Xns99B85EB767FDAjyanikkuanet@64.209.0.85... > "Dave L" <davelieuREMOVEME@yahoo.com> wrote in > news:8Oqdne4hbtSquWbbnZ2dnUVZ_qiinZ2d@comcast.com: > >> >> "Jim Yanik" <jyanik@abuse.gov> wrote in message >> news:Xns99B768393ABCFjyanikkuanet@64.209.0.86... >>>> >>>>>We've owned several LX Accords through out the years and the 2008 >>>>>model, is by far, the worst of the bunch. >>>> >>>> 3400 pounds, that's what jumps out at me. >>> >>> Every automaker keeps making their autos bigger and heavier with each >>> new model. They never learn. >>> I can recall when the Accord was the size of today's Civics. >> >> Agreed. Although gas mileage is much better, the cars are also >> getting bloated. Personally I really liked the design/style of some >> of the older Accords vs. the newer ones. If they want performance and >> gas mileage, just think what they can do if the cars were smaller, >> lighter and more nimble. >> >>>> I expect to look for the TSX, or maybe a Civic, next time around. >>>> Or, y'know, a non-Honda product. >>>> >>>> J. >>>> >>>> >>> >>> Neither Honda or Acura currently make anything that interests me. >>> They need to bring back the Prelude and Integra.Maybe the CRX,too. >> >> I miss the Prelude (used to have an '89) and Integra too. More style >> and character. >> >> -Dave >> >>> -- >>> Jim Yanik >>> jyanik >>> at >>> kua.net >> >> >> > > I owned 86 SI and 90 SI Preludes.In 93,TWO hailstorms trashed my 90(only > 20 > K miles on it!),and the Lude of that date was ugly,so I went with the > Integra GS-R. That got stolen 29 June 07. Couldn't find a 98-01 Prelude at > a price I could afford,so I got a Nissan SE-R Spec V. DEFINITELY not Honda > quality. > I avoided the Hondas because of their theft problems.I would have bought > another GS-R except that I couldn't keep it from getting > stolen/stripped,too. > > 2007 is NOT my year for autos.... > > -- > Jim Yanik > jyanik > at > kua.net Whoa, they must have been some nasty hailstorms! What part of the country are you in? I'll agree with you on the Nissans. I bought a used '92 SE-R and you're right - the fit & finish was not the same as the the Celica I had. It was a blast to drive although the stick shift was the worst compared to the Hondas and Toyota manuals I've owned. I think the Integras had one of the higher theft rates. 2007 is almost over. How else is your Spec V treating you? -Dave |
Re: 2008 Honda Accord
"Dave L" <davelieuREMOVEME@yahoo.com> wrote in
news:CbmdnYlm3_Mj7WHbnZ2dnUVZ_r-vnZ2d@comcast.com: > > "Jim Yanik" <jyanik@abuse.gov> wrote in message > news:Xns99B85EB767FDAjyanikkuanet@64.209.0.85... >> "Dave L" <davelieuREMOVEME@yahoo.com> wrote in >> news:8Oqdne4hbtSquWbbnZ2dnUVZ_qiinZ2d@comcast.com: >> >>> >>> "Jim Yanik" <jyanik@abuse.gov> wrote in message >>> news:Xns99B768393ABCFjyanikkuanet@64.209.0.86... >>>>> >>>>>>We've owned several LX Accords through out the years and the 2008 >>>>>>model, is by far, the worst of the bunch. >>>>> >>>>> 3400 pounds, that's what jumps out at me. >>>> >>>> Every automaker keeps making their autos bigger and heavier with >>>> each new model. They never learn. >>>> I can recall when the Accord was the size of today's Civics. >>> >>> Agreed. Although gas mileage is much better, the cars are also >>> getting bloated. Personally I really liked the design/style of some >>> of the older Accords vs. the newer ones. If they want performance >>> and gas mileage, just think what they can do if the cars were >>> smaller, lighter and more nimble. >>> >>>>> I expect to look for the TSX, or maybe a Civic, next time around. >>>>> Or, y'know, a non-Honda product. >>>>> >>>>> J. >>>>> >>>>> >>>> >>>> Neither Honda or Acura currently make anything that interests me. >>>> They need to bring back the Prelude and Integra.Maybe the CRX,too. >>> >>> I miss the Prelude (used to have an '89) and Integra too. More >>> style and character. >>> >>> -Dave >>> >>>> -- >>>> Jim Yanik >>>> jyanik >>>> at >>>> kua.net >>> >>> >>> >> >> I owned 86 SI and 90 SI Preludes.In 93,TWO hailstorms trashed my >> 90(only 20 >> K miles on it!),and the Lude of that date was ugly,so I went with the >> Integra GS-R. That got stolen 29 June 07. Couldn't find a 98-01 >> Prelude at a price I could afford,so I got a Nissan SE-R Spec V. >> DEFINITELY not Honda quality. >> I avoided the Hondas because of their theft problems.I would have >> bought another GS-R except that I couldn't keep it from getting >> stolen/stripped,too. >> >> 2007 is NOT my year for autos.... >> >> -- >> Jim Yanik >> jyanik >> at >> kua.net > > Whoa, they must have been some nasty hailstorms! What part of the > country are you in? Orlando,Fl. > I'll agree with you on the Nissans. I bought a > used '92 SE-R and you're right - the fit & finish was not the same as > the the Celica I had. It was a blast to drive although the stick > shift was the worst compared to the Hondas and Toyota manuals I've > owned. > > I think the Integras had one of the higher theft rates. 2007 is > almost over. How else is your Spec V treating you? > > -Dave Got a bad wheel bearing (it's an -03),and a throttle problem,ECU set a code of "idle too high",and the throttle is slow to drop after you take your foot off,and then revs back up and down again before settling down. (electronically controlled throttle!)The latter problem may be a software problem that of course,only the dealer can reflash the ECU with the newer SW. at least the Nissan service manual is downloadable. -- Jim Yanik jyanik at kua.net |
Re: 2008 Honda Accord
"Dave L" <davelieuREMOVEME@yahoo.com> wrote in
news:CbmdnYlm3_Mj7WHbnZ2dnUVZ_r-vnZ2d@comcast.com: > > "Jim Yanik" <jyanik@abuse.gov> wrote in message > news:Xns99B85EB767FDAjyanikkuanet@64.209.0.85... >> "Dave L" <davelieuREMOVEME@yahoo.com> wrote in >> news:8Oqdne4hbtSquWbbnZ2dnUVZ_qiinZ2d@comcast.com: >> >>> >>> "Jim Yanik" <jyanik@abuse.gov> wrote in message >>> news:Xns99B768393ABCFjyanikkuanet@64.209.0.86... >>>>> >>>>>>We've owned several LX Accords through out the years and the 2008 >>>>>>model, is by far, the worst of the bunch. >>>>> >>>>> 3400 pounds, that's what jumps out at me. >>>> >>>> Every automaker keeps making their autos bigger and heavier with >>>> each new model. They never learn. >>>> I can recall when the Accord was the size of today's Civics. >>> >>> Agreed. Although gas mileage is much better, the cars are also >>> getting bloated. Personally I really liked the design/style of some >>> of the older Accords vs. the newer ones. If they want performance >>> and gas mileage, just think what they can do if the cars were >>> smaller, lighter and more nimble. >>> >>>>> I expect to look for the TSX, or maybe a Civic, next time around. >>>>> Or, y'know, a non-Honda product. >>>>> >>>>> J. >>>>> >>>>> >>>> >>>> Neither Honda or Acura currently make anything that interests me. >>>> They need to bring back the Prelude and Integra.Maybe the CRX,too. >>> >>> I miss the Prelude (used to have an '89) and Integra too. More >>> style and character. >>> >>> -Dave >>> >>>> -- >>>> Jim Yanik >>>> jyanik >>>> at >>>> kua.net >>> >>> >>> >> >> I owned 86 SI and 90 SI Preludes.In 93,TWO hailstorms trashed my >> 90(only 20 >> K miles on it!),and the Lude of that date was ugly,so I went with the >> Integra GS-R. That got stolen 29 June 07. Couldn't find a 98-01 >> Prelude at a price I could afford,so I got a Nissan SE-R Spec V. >> DEFINITELY not Honda quality. >> I avoided the Hondas because of their theft problems.I would have >> bought another GS-R except that I couldn't keep it from getting >> stolen/stripped,too. >> >> 2007 is NOT my year for autos.... >> >> -- >> Jim Yanik >> jyanik >> at >> kua.net > > Whoa, they must have been some nasty hailstorms! What part of the > country are you in? Orlando,Fl. > I'll agree with you on the Nissans. I bought a > used '92 SE-R and you're right - the fit & finish was not the same as > the the Celica I had. It was a blast to drive although the stick > shift was the worst compared to the Hondas and Toyota manuals I've > owned. > > I think the Integras had one of the higher theft rates. 2007 is > almost over. How else is your Spec V treating you? > > -Dave Got a bad wheel bearing (it's an -03),and a throttle problem,ECU set a code of "idle too high",and the throttle is slow to drop after you take your foot off,and then revs back up and down again before settling down. (electronically controlled throttle!)The latter problem may be a software problem that of course,only the dealer can reflash the ECU with the newer SW. at least the Nissan service manual is downloadable. -- Jim Yanik jyanik at kua.net |
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