2008 Smart commuter car gets 40 mpg and will selling in USA for $12k.
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Re: 2008 Smart commuter car gets 40 mpg and will selling in USA for$12k.
Mike Hunter wrote:
> At the price of $16,000 for that midget two passenger car, to drive on
> American highways, to save a relative few hundred dollars a year, one would
> be better off just buying a actual
> coffin for $5,000
>
> mike
Actually, it is a perfect car for people in NYC. They're small enough so
that you can just drive them into the elevator and park them in the
corner of your cubical for the day.
Jeff
> At the price of $16,000 for that midget two passenger car, to drive on
> American highways, to save a relative few hundred dollars a year, one would
> be better off just buying a actual
> coffin for $5,000
>
> mike
Actually, it is a perfect car for people in NYC. They're small enough so
that you can just drive them into the elevator and park them in the
corner of your cubical for the day.
Jeff
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Re: 2008 Smart commuter car gets 40 mpg and will selling in USA for $12k.
Those little "Smart" cars have been running around in Europe for 7 or 8
years, but the times that I have been there, we never saw very many of them
on the road. The Mercedes name sells them to some people, but there are
much better buys for better transportation in Europe, the same as there is
here.
If they could get the price down to $10,000, they might make a good
substitute for a golf cart.
(Yes, I know, the model sold here is a little different).
"Mike Hunter" <mikehunt2@mailcity.com> wrote in message
news:rMCdnRTkqfsNyxjbnZ2dnUVZ_s2vnZ2d@ptd.net...
> At the price of $16,000 for that midget two passenger car, to drive on
> American highways, to save a relative few hundred dollars a year, one
> would be better off just buying a actual
> coffin for $5,000
>
> mike
>
>
> "Useful Info" <useful_inf@yahoo.com> wrote in message
> news:1183136367.519154.19160@k79g2000hse.googlegro ups.com...
>> Read all about it, here: http://Muvy.org
>>
>
>
years, but the times that I have been there, we never saw very many of them
on the road. The Mercedes name sells them to some people, but there are
much better buys for better transportation in Europe, the same as there is
here.
If they could get the price down to $10,000, they might make a good
substitute for a golf cart.
(Yes, I know, the model sold here is a little different).
"Mike Hunter" <mikehunt2@mailcity.com> wrote in message
news:rMCdnRTkqfsNyxjbnZ2dnUVZ_s2vnZ2d@ptd.net...
> At the price of $16,000 for that midget two passenger car, to drive on
> American highways, to save a relative few hundred dollars a year, one
> would be better off just buying a actual
> coffin for $5,000
>
> mike
>
>
> "Useful Info" <useful_inf@yahoo.com> wrote in message
> news:1183136367.519154.19160@k79g2000hse.googlegro ups.com...
>> Read all about it, here: http://Muvy.org
>>
>
>
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Re: 2008 Smart commuter car gets 40 mpg and will selling in USA for $12k.
Those little "Smart" cars have been running around in Europe for 7 or 8
years, but the times that I have been there, we never saw very many of them
on the road. The Mercedes name sells them to some people, but there are
much better buys for better transportation in Europe, the same as there is
here.
If they could get the price down to $10,000, they might make a good
substitute for a golf cart.
(Yes, I know, the model sold here is a little different).
"Mike Hunter" <mikehunt2@mailcity.com> wrote in message
news:rMCdnRTkqfsNyxjbnZ2dnUVZ_s2vnZ2d@ptd.net...
> At the price of $16,000 for that midget two passenger car, to drive on
> American highways, to save a relative few hundred dollars a year, one
> would be better off just buying a actual
> coffin for $5,000
>
> mike
>
>
> "Useful Info" <useful_inf@yahoo.com> wrote in message
> news:1183136367.519154.19160@k79g2000hse.googlegro ups.com...
>> Read all about it, here: http://Muvy.org
>>
>
>
years, but the times that I have been there, we never saw very many of them
on the road. The Mercedes name sells them to some people, but there are
much better buys for better transportation in Europe, the same as there is
here.
If they could get the price down to $10,000, they might make a good
substitute for a golf cart.
(Yes, I know, the model sold here is a little different).
"Mike Hunter" <mikehunt2@mailcity.com> wrote in message
news:rMCdnRTkqfsNyxjbnZ2dnUVZ_s2vnZ2d@ptd.net...
> At the price of $16,000 for that midget two passenger car, to drive on
> American highways, to save a relative few hundred dollars a year, one
> would be better off just buying a actual
> coffin for $5,000
>
> mike
>
>
> "Useful Info" <useful_inf@yahoo.com> wrote in message
> news:1183136367.519154.19160@k79g2000hse.googlegro ups.com...
>> Read all about it, here: http://Muvy.org
>>
>
>
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Re: 2008 Smart commuter car gets 40 mpg and will selling in USA for $12k.
Those little "Smart" cars have been running around in Europe for 7 or 8
years, but the times that I have been there, we never saw very many of them
on the road. The Mercedes name sells them to some people, but there are
much better buys for better transportation in Europe, the same as there is
here.
If they could get the price down to $10,000, they might make a good
substitute for a golf cart.
(Yes, I know, the model sold here is a little different).
"Mike Hunter" <mikehunt2@mailcity.com> wrote in message
news:rMCdnRTkqfsNyxjbnZ2dnUVZ_s2vnZ2d@ptd.net...
> At the price of $16,000 for that midget two passenger car, to drive on
> American highways, to save a relative few hundred dollars a year, one
> would be better off just buying a actual
> coffin for $5,000
>
> mike
>
>
> "Useful Info" <useful_inf@yahoo.com> wrote in message
> news:1183136367.519154.19160@k79g2000hse.googlegro ups.com...
>> Read all about it, here: http://Muvy.org
>>
>
>
years, but the times that I have been there, we never saw very many of them
on the road. The Mercedes name sells them to some people, but there are
much better buys for better transportation in Europe, the same as there is
here.
If they could get the price down to $10,000, they might make a good
substitute for a golf cart.
(Yes, I know, the model sold here is a little different).
"Mike Hunter" <mikehunt2@mailcity.com> wrote in message
news:rMCdnRTkqfsNyxjbnZ2dnUVZ_s2vnZ2d@ptd.net...
> At the price of $16,000 for that midget two passenger car, to drive on
> American highways, to save a relative few hundred dollars a year, one
> would be better off just buying a actual
> coffin for $5,000
>
> mike
>
>
> "Useful Info" <useful_inf@yahoo.com> wrote in message
> news:1183136367.519154.19160@k79g2000hse.googlegro ups.com...
>> Read all about it, here: http://Muvy.org
>>
>
>
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Re: 2008 Smart commuter car gets 40 mpg and will selling in USA for$12k.
Graybeard wrote:
> Those little "Smart" cars have been running around in Europe for 7 or 8
> years, but the times that I have been there, we never saw very many of them
> on the road. The Mercedes name sells them to some people, but there are
> much better buys for better transportation in Europe, the same as there is
> here.
> If they could get the price down to $10,000, they might make a good
> substitute for a golf cart.
> (Yes, I know, the model sold here is a little different).
DiamlerBenz reportedly spent over 1,000,000,000 Euros on development of
the car. But they are far from recovering their investment.
So this program was much better than their merger of equals with Chrysler.
Jeff
> "Mike Hunter" <mikehunt2@mailcity.com> wrote in message
> news:rMCdnRTkqfsNyxjbnZ2dnUVZ_s2vnZ2d@ptd.net...
>> At the price of $16,000 for that midget two passenger car, to drive on
>> American highways, to save a relative few hundred dollars a year, one
>> would be better off just buying a actual
>> coffin for $5,000
>>
>> mike
>>
>>
>> "Useful Info" <useful_inf@yahoo.com> wrote in message
>> news:1183136367.519154.19160@k79g2000hse.googlegro ups.com...
>>> Read all about it, here: http://Muvy.org
>>>
>>
>
>
> Those little "Smart" cars have been running around in Europe for 7 or 8
> years, but the times that I have been there, we never saw very many of them
> on the road. The Mercedes name sells them to some people, but there are
> much better buys for better transportation in Europe, the same as there is
> here.
> If they could get the price down to $10,000, they might make a good
> substitute for a golf cart.
> (Yes, I know, the model sold here is a little different).
DiamlerBenz reportedly spent over 1,000,000,000 Euros on development of
the car. But they are far from recovering their investment.
So this program was much better than their merger of equals with Chrysler.
Jeff
> "Mike Hunter" <mikehunt2@mailcity.com> wrote in message
> news:rMCdnRTkqfsNyxjbnZ2dnUVZ_s2vnZ2d@ptd.net...
>> At the price of $16,000 for that midget two passenger car, to drive on
>> American highways, to save a relative few hundred dollars a year, one
>> would be better off just buying a actual
>> coffin for $5,000
>>
>> mike
>>
>>
>> "Useful Info" <useful_inf@yahoo.com> wrote in message
>> news:1183136367.519154.19160@k79g2000hse.googlegro ups.com...
>>> Read all about it, here: http://Muvy.org
>>>
>>
>
>
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Re: 2008 Smart commuter car gets 40 mpg and will selling in USA for$12k.
Graybeard wrote:
> Those little "Smart" cars have been running around in Europe for 7 or 8
> years, but the times that I have been there, we never saw very many of them
> on the road. The Mercedes name sells them to some people, but there are
> much better buys for better transportation in Europe, the same as there is
> here.
> If they could get the price down to $10,000, they might make a good
> substitute for a golf cart.
> (Yes, I know, the model sold here is a little different).
DiamlerBenz reportedly spent over 1,000,000,000 Euros on development of
the car. But they are far from recovering their investment.
So this program was much better than their merger of equals with Chrysler.
Jeff
> "Mike Hunter" <mikehunt2@mailcity.com> wrote in message
> news:rMCdnRTkqfsNyxjbnZ2dnUVZ_s2vnZ2d@ptd.net...
>> At the price of $16,000 for that midget two passenger car, to drive on
>> American highways, to save a relative few hundred dollars a year, one
>> would be better off just buying a actual
>> coffin for $5,000
>>
>> mike
>>
>>
>> "Useful Info" <useful_inf@yahoo.com> wrote in message
>> news:1183136367.519154.19160@k79g2000hse.googlegro ups.com...
>>> Read all about it, here: http://Muvy.org
>>>
>>
>
>
> Those little "Smart" cars have been running around in Europe for 7 or 8
> years, but the times that I have been there, we never saw very many of them
> on the road. The Mercedes name sells them to some people, but there are
> much better buys for better transportation in Europe, the same as there is
> here.
> If they could get the price down to $10,000, they might make a good
> substitute for a golf cart.
> (Yes, I know, the model sold here is a little different).
DiamlerBenz reportedly spent over 1,000,000,000 Euros on development of
the car. But they are far from recovering their investment.
So this program was much better than their merger of equals with Chrysler.
Jeff
> "Mike Hunter" <mikehunt2@mailcity.com> wrote in message
> news:rMCdnRTkqfsNyxjbnZ2dnUVZ_s2vnZ2d@ptd.net...
>> At the price of $16,000 for that midget two passenger car, to drive on
>> American highways, to save a relative few hundred dollars a year, one
>> would be better off just buying a actual
>> coffin for $5,000
>>
>> mike
>>
>>
>> "Useful Info" <useful_inf@yahoo.com> wrote in message
>> news:1183136367.519154.19160@k79g2000hse.googlegro ups.com...
>>> Read all about it, here: http://Muvy.org
>>>
>>
>
>
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Re: 2008 Smart commuter car gets 40 mpg and will selling in USA for$12k.
Graybeard wrote:
> Those little "Smart" cars have been running around in Europe for 7 or 8
> years, but the times that I have been there, we never saw very many of them
> on the road. The Mercedes name sells them to some people, but there are
> much better buys for better transportation in Europe, the same as there is
> here.
> If they could get the price down to $10,000, they might make a good
> substitute for a golf cart.
> (Yes, I know, the model sold here is a little different).
DiamlerBenz reportedly spent over 1,000,000,000 Euros on development of
the car. But they are far from recovering their investment.
So this program was much better than their merger of equals with Chrysler.
Jeff
> "Mike Hunter" <mikehunt2@mailcity.com> wrote in message
> news:rMCdnRTkqfsNyxjbnZ2dnUVZ_s2vnZ2d@ptd.net...
>> At the price of $16,000 for that midget two passenger car, to drive on
>> American highways, to save a relative few hundred dollars a year, one
>> would be better off just buying a actual
>> coffin for $5,000
>>
>> mike
>>
>>
>> "Useful Info" <useful_inf@yahoo.com> wrote in message
>> news:1183136367.519154.19160@k79g2000hse.googlegro ups.com...
>>> Read all about it, here: http://Muvy.org
>>>
>>
>
>
> Those little "Smart" cars have been running around in Europe for 7 or 8
> years, but the times that I have been there, we never saw very many of them
> on the road. The Mercedes name sells them to some people, but there are
> much better buys for better transportation in Europe, the same as there is
> here.
> If they could get the price down to $10,000, they might make a good
> substitute for a golf cart.
> (Yes, I know, the model sold here is a little different).
DiamlerBenz reportedly spent over 1,000,000,000 Euros on development of
the car. But they are far from recovering their investment.
So this program was much better than their merger of equals with Chrysler.
Jeff
> "Mike Hunter" <mikehunt2@mailcity.com> wrote in message
> news:rMCdnRTkqfsNyxjbnZ2dnUVZ_s2vnZ2d@ptd.net...
>> At the price of $16,000 for that midget two passenger car, to drive on
>> American highways, to save a relative few hundred dollars a year, one
>> would be better off just buying a actual
>> coffin for $5,000
>>
>> mike
>>
>>
>> "Useful Info" <useful_inf@yahoo.com> wrote in message
>> news:1183136367.519154.19160@k79g2000hse.googlegro ups.com...
>>> Read all about it, here: http://Muvy.org
>>>
>>
>
>
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"Graybeard" <graybeard32@cfl.rr.com> wrote in message
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> Those little "Smart" cars have been running around in Europe for 7 or 8
> years, but the times that I have been there, we never saw very many of
> them on the road.
That was what my daughter reported when she returned from France about 6
years ago. She saw them parked and being towed, but didn't see one actually
on the road. Logically, if they were parked or being towed they must have
been on the road at some point... unless they were being towed from parking
place to parking place.
Mike
news:4685b3c5$0$31224$4c368faf@roadrunner.com...
> Those little "Smart" cars have been running around in Europe for 7 or 8
> years, but the times that I have been there, we never saw very many of
> them on the road.
That was what my daughter reported when she returned from France about 6
years ago. She saw them parked and being towed, but didn't see one actually
on the road. Logically, if they were parked or being towed they must have
been on the road at some point... unless they were being towed from parking
place to parking place.
Mike
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"Graybeard" <graybeard32@cfl.rr.com> wrote in message
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> Those little "Smart" cars have been running around in Europe for 7 or 8
> years, but the times that I have been there, we never saw very many of
> them on the road.
That was what my daughter reported when she returned from France about 6
years ago. She saw them parked and being towed, but didn't see one actually
on the road. Logically, if they were parked or being towed they must have
been on the road at some point... unless they were being towed from parking
place to parking place.
Mike
news:4685b3c5$0$31224$4c368faf@roadrunner.com...
> Those little "Smart" cars have been running around in Europe for 7 or 8
> years, but the times that I have been there, we never saw very many of
> them on the road.
That was what my daughter reported when she returned from France about 6
years ago. She saw them parked and being towed, but didn't see one actually
on the road. Logically, if they were parked or being towed they must have
been on the road at some point... unless they were being towed from parking
place to parking place.
Mike
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Re: 2008 Smart commuter car gets 40 mpg and will selling in USA for $12k.
"Graybeard" <graybeard32@cfl.rr.com> wrote in message
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> Those little "Smart" cars have been running around in Europe for 7 or 8
> years, but the times that I have been there, we never saw very many of
> them on the road.
That was what my daughter reported when she returned from France about 6
years ago. She saw them parked and being towed, but didn't see one actually
on the road. Logically, if they were parked or being towed they must have
been on the road at some point... unless they were being towed from parking
place to parking place.
Mike
news:4685b3c5$0$31224$4c368faf@roadrunner.com...
> Those little "Smart" cars have been running around in Europe for 7 or 8
> years, but the times that I have been there, we never saw very many of
> them on the road.
That was what my daughter reported when she returned from France about 6
years ago. She saw them parked and being towed, but didn't see one actually
on the road. Logically, if they were parked or being towed they must have
been on the road at some point... unless they were being towed from parking
place to parking place.
Mike
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Gunz4me wrote:
> Useful Info wrote:
>> Read all about it, here: http://Muvy.org
>>
>
> OMG, I can just see one of those on the interstate getting knocked into
> the median by the draft of a big semi. The only plus I see with that
> tiny car is that it should be easy to find a parking spot, assuming I
> can make it to my destination without being run off the road.
>
> Second thought, I would much rather have a Honda Civic Hybrid than this
> tiny car.
ever been to europe? they have semi's over there and /way/ more tiny
cars than we have. last i heard, their death rate was not worse than ours.
> Useful Info wrote:
>> Read all about it, here: http://Muvy.org
>>
>
> OMG, I can just see one of those on the interstate getting knocked into
> the median by the draft of a big semi. The only plus I see with that
> tiny car is that it should be easy to find a parking spot, assuming I
> can make it to my destination without being run off the road.
>
> Second thought, I would much rather have a Honda Civic Hybrid than this
> tiny car.
ever been to europe? they have semi's over there and /way/ more tiny
cars than we have. last i heard, their death rate was not worse than ours.
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Gunz4me wrote:
> Useful Info wrote:
>> Read all about it, here: http://Muvy.org
>>
>
> OMG, I can just see one of those on the interstate getting knocked into
> the median by the draft of a big semi. The only plus I see with that
> tiny car is that it should be easy to find a parking spot, assuming I
> can make it to my destination without being run off the road.
>
> Second thought, I would much rather have a Honda Civic Hybrid than this
> tiny car.
ever been to europe? they have semi's over there and /way/ more tiny
cars than we have. last i heard, their death rate was not worse than ours.
> Useful Info wrote:
>> Read all about it, here: http://Muvy.org
>>
>
> OMG, I can just see one of those on the interstate getting knocked into
> the median by the draft of a big semi. The only plus I see with that
> tiny car is that it should be easy to find a parking spot, assuming I
> can make it to my destination without being run off the road.
>
> Second thought, I would much rather have a Honda Civic Hybrid than this
> tiny car.
ever been to europe? they have semi's over there and /way/ more tiny
cars than we have. last i heard, their death rate was not worse than ours.
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Re: 2008 Smart commuter car gets 40 mpg and will selling in USA for$12k.
Gunz4me wrote:
> Useful Info wrote:
>> Read all about it, here: http://Muvy.org
>>
>
> OMG, I can just see one of those on the interstate getting knocked into
> the median by the draft of a big semi. The only plus I see with that
> tiny car is that it should be easy to find a parking spot, assuming I
> can make it to my destination without being run off the road.
>
> Second thought, I would much rather have a Honda Civic Hybrid than this
> tiny car.
ever been to europe? they have semi's over there and /way/ more tiny
cars than we have. last i heard, their death rate was not worse than ours.
> Useful Info wrote:
>> Read all about it, here: http://Muvy.org
>>
>
> OMG, I can just see one of those on the interstate getting knocked into
> the median by the draft of a big semi. The only plus I see with that
> tiny car is that it should be easy to find a parking spot, assuming I
> can make it to my destination without being run off the road.
>
> Second thought, I would much rather have a Honda Civic Hybrid than this
> tiny car.
ever been to europe? they have semi's over there and /way/ more tiny
cars than we have. last i heard, their death rate was not worse than ours.
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"Useful Info" <useful_inf@yahoo.com> wrote in message
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> Read all about it, here: http://Muvy.org
>
>
You spammed us before with this same subject, remember?
As for the SMART car, I checked some user forums a few months ago. The
engine is notoriously flimsy; the conventional wisdom is that it is good for
60-100K km. One owner got good news, though. His engine with 70+ K km
appeared to be seized but on advice from a more experienced owner he
loosened the alternator belt. Sure enough - it was the alternator that was
seized ( a very common problem, apparently). The starter didn't have enough
torque to turn the dinky diesel with a seized alternator.
I sure don't want to trade in my 45-60 mpg (real world) five passenger Prius
with climate control for a two passenger, noisier, thirstier, far less
reliable, much more sluggish vehicle that - at present - is not even
available with A/C. (Putting A/C on a 50 hp engine is not likely to be in
the cards, either.)
SMART cars have been a money pit for Daimler-Chrysler - can Mercedes make it
pay?
Mike
news:1183136367.519154.19160@k79g2000hse.googlegro ups.com...
> Read all about it, here: http://Muvy.org
>
>
You spammed us before with this same subject, remember?
As for the SMART car, I checked some user forums a few months ago. The
engine is notoriously flimsy; the conventional wisdom is that it is good for
60-100K km. One owner got good news, though. His engine with 70+ K km
appeared to be seized but on advice from a more experienced owner he
loosened the alternator belt. Sure enough - it was the alternator that was
seized ( a very common problem, apparently). The starter didn't have enough
torque to turn the dinky diesel with a seized alternator.
I sure don't want to trade in my 45-60 mpg (real world) five passenger Prius
with climate control for a two passenger, noisier, thirstier, far less
reliable, much more sluggish vehicle that - at present - is not even
available with A/C. (Putting A/C on a 50 hp engine is not likely to be in
the cards, either.)
SMART cars have been a money pit for Daimler-Chrysler - can Mercedes make it
pay?
Mike
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"Useful Info" <useful_inf@yahoo.com> wrote in message
news:1183136367.519154.19160@k79g2000hse.googlegro ups.com...
> Read all about it, here: http://Muvy.org
>
>
You spammed us before with this same subject, remember?
As for the SMART car, I checked some user forums a few months ago. The
engine is notoriously flimsy; the conventional wisdom is that it is good for
60-100K km. One owner got good news, though. His engine with 70+ K km
appeared to be seized but on advice from a more experienced owner he
loosened the alternator belt. Sure enough - it was the alternator that was
seized ( a very common problem, apparently). The starter didn't have enough
torque to turn the dinky diesel with a seized alternator.
I sure don't want to trade in my 45-60 mpg (real world) five passenger Prius
with climate control for a two passenger, noisier, thirstier, far less
reliable, much more sluggish vehicle that - at present - is not even
available with A/C. (Putting A/C on a 50 hp engine is not likely to be in
the cards, either.)
SMART cars have been a money pit for Daimler-Chrysler - can Mercedes make it
pay?
Mike
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> Read all about it, here: http://Muvy.org
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You spammed us before with this same subject, remember?
As for the SMART car, I checked some user forums a few months ago. The
engine is notoriously flimsy; the conventional wisdom is that it is good for
60-100K km. One owner got good news, though. His engine with 70+ K km
appeared to be seized but on advice from a more experienced owner he
loosened the alternator belt. Sure enough - it was the alternator that was
seized ( a very common problem, apparently). The starter didn't have enough
torque to turn the dinky diesel with a seized alternator.
I sure don't want to trade in my 45-60 mpg (real world) five passenger Prius
with climate control for a two passenger, noisier, thirstier, far less
reliable, much more sluggish vehicle that - at present - is not even
available with A/C. (Putting A/C on a 50 hp engine is not likely to be in
the cards, either.)
SMART cars have been a money pit for Daimler-Chrysler - can Mercedes make it
pay?
Mike