2008 Smart commuter car gets 40 mpg and will selling in USA for $12k.
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Re: 2008 Smart commuter car gets 40 mpg and will selling in USA for $12k.
"Eeyore" <rabbitsfriendsandrelations@hotmail.com> wrote in message
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>
>
> "Robert A. Cunningham" wrote:
>
>>
>> Consumer Reports had a short article about the "Smart for Two" car in
>> their
>> Dec '06 issue (not this same exact model).
>> They said it was the worst car they have ever tested.
>
> In what respect.
>
> It's the very best for parking.
>
> Graham
>
>
The reliability seems truly substandard. I have occasionally lurked in SMART
forums and seen threads about seized alternators (lots and lots of them),
engine troubles, turbo troubles, doors jamming when hot (actually a common
problem with them apparently), transmission problems.... For soft-top SMART
models the motors in the Cabrio roof are notoriously troublesome and repair
is shockingly expensive. 50K miles or 80K km is considered old in many
circles, the way 250K miles is considered for Toyotas and Hondas. Whether
that is justified or just the owners' expectations isn't clear.
Mike
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>
>
> "Robert A. Cunningham" wrote:
>
>>
>> Consumer Reports had a short article about the "Smart for Two" car in
>> their
>> Dec '06 issue (not this same exact model).
>> They said it was the worst car they have ever tested.
>
> In what respect.
>
> It's the very best for parking.
>
> Graham
>
>
The reliability seems truly substandard. I have occasionally lurked in SMART
forums and seen threads about seized alternators (lots and lots of them),
engine troubles, turbo troubles, doors jamming when hot (actually a common
problem with them apparently), transmission problems.... For soft-top SMART
models the motors in the Cabrio roof are notoriously troublesome and repair
is shockingly expensive. 50K miles or 80K km is considered old in many
circles, the way 250K miles is considered for Toyotas and Hondas. Whether
that is justified or just the owners' expectations isn't clear.
Mike
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Re: 2008 Smart commuter car gets 40 mpg and will selling in USA for$12k.
Michael Pardee wrote:
> "Eeyore" wrote
> > "Robert A. Cunningham" wrote:
> >
> >>
> >> Consumer Reports had a short article about the "Smart for Two" car in
> >> their
> >> Dec '06 issue (not this same exact model).
> >> They said it was the worst car they have ever tested.
> >
> > In what respect.
> >
> > It's the very best for parking.
>
>
> The reliability seems truly substandard. I have occasionally lurked in SMART
> forums and seen threads about seized alternators (lots and lots of them),
> engine troubles, turbo troubles, doors jamming when hot (actually a common
> problem with them apparently), transmission problems.... For soft-top SMART
> models the motors in the Cabrio roof are notoriously troublesome and repair
> is shockingly expensive. 50K miles or 80K km is considered old in many
> circles, the way 250K miles is considered for Toyotas and Hondas. Whether
> that is justified or just the owners' expectations isn't clear.
Considering it's a Mercedes product that's very disappointing.
Mercedes do actually make a small car under their own brand but don't sell that
in the USA.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mercedes-Benz_A-Class
Graham
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Re: 2008 Smart commuter car gets 40 mpg and will selling in USA for$12k.
Michael Pardee wrote:
> "Eeyore" wrote
> > "Robert A. Cunningham" wrote:
> >
> >>
> >> Consumer Reports had a short article about the "Smart for Two" car in
> >> their
> >> Dec '06 issue (not this same exact model).
> >> They said it was the worst car they have ever tested.
> >
> > In what respect.
> >
> > It's the very best for parking.
>
>
> The reliability seems truly substandard. I have occasionally lurked in SMART
> forums and seen threads about seized alternators (lots and lots of them),
> engine troubles, turbo troubles, doors jamming when hot (actually a common
> problem with them apparently), transmission problems.... For soft-top SMART
> models the motors in the Cabrio roof are notoriously troublesome and repair
> is shockingly expensive. 50K miles or 80K km is considered old in many
> circles, the way 250K miles is considered for Toyotas and Hondas. Whether
> that is justified or just the owners' expectations isn't clear.
Considering it's a Mercedes product that's very disappointing.
Mercedes do actually make a small car under their own brand but don't sell that
in the USA.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mercedes-Benz_A-Class
Graham
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Re: 2008 Smart commuter car gets 40 mpg and will selling in USA for$12k.
Michael Pardee wrote:
> "Eeyore" wrote
> > "Robert A. Cunningham" wrote:
> >
> >>
> >> Consumer Reports had a short article about the "Smart for Two" car in
> >> their
> >> Dec '06 issue (not this same exact model).
> >> They said it was the worst car they have ever tested.
> >
> > In what respect.
> >
> > It's the very best for parking.
>
>
> The reliability seems truly substandard. I have occasionally lurked in SMART
> forums and seen threads about seized alternators (lots and lots of them),
> engine troubles, turbo troubles, doors jamming when hot (actually a common
> problem with them apparently), transmission problems.... For soft-top SMART
> models the motors in the Cabrio roof are notoriously troublesome and repair
> is shockingly expensive. 50K miles or 80K km is considered old in many
> circles, the way 250K miles is considered for Toyotas and Hondas. Whether
> that is justified or just the owners' expectations isn't clear.
Considering it's a Mercedes product that's very disappointing.
Mercedes do actually make a small car under their own brand but don't sell that
in the USA.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mercedes-Benz_A-Class
Graham
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Re: 2008 Smart commuter car gets 40 mpg and will selling in USA for $12k.
On Tue, 03 Jul 2007 07:49:58 -0400, dgk <dgk@somewhere.com> wrote:
>On Sat, 30 Jun 2007 01:10:29 GMT, Jeff <kidsdoc2000@hotmail.com>
>wrote:
>>Actually, it is a perfect car for people in NYC. They're small enough so
>>that you can just drive them into the elevator and park them in the
>>corner of your cubical for the day.
It's not THAT small. Almost... ;-)
>We're not even allowed to bring bikes into commercial buildings in
>NYC, which is why my bike is parked outside. On the other hand, I
>think my bike is bigger so perhaps this will be allowed.
In New York City, home of the "Sucker Pole" - you lock your
expensive bicycle up to the "No Parking" sign, and you can come back
in thirty seconds and both the bike and lock are gone.
They drill out or chisel off and remove the rivet at the base that
holds the pole into the sidewalk, the whole thing slides right out.
And if the rivet is still there, it doesn't take much longer to
remove it, but they have to have Big Brass Ones to do it in daylight
hours with the bike there.
--<< Bruce >>--
>On Sat, 30 Jun 2007 01:10:29 GMT, Jeff <kidsdoc2000@hotmail.com>
>wrote:
>>Actually, it is a perfect car for people in NYC. They're small enough so
>>that you can just drive them into the elevator and park them in the
>>corner of your cubical for the day.
It's not THAT small. Almost... ;-)
>We're not even allowed to bring bikes into commercial buildings in
>NYC, which is why my bike is parked outside. On the other hand, I
>think my bike is bigger so perhaps this will be allowed.
In New York City, home of the "Sucker Pole" - you lock your
expensive bicycle up to the "No Parking" sign, and you can come back
in thirty seconds and both the bike and lock are gone.
They drill out or chisel off and remove the rivet at the base that
holds the pole into the sidewalk, the whole thing slides right out.
And if the rivet is still there, it doesn't take much longer to
remove it, but they have to have Big Brass Ones to do it in daylight
hours with the bike there.
--<< Bruce >>--
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Re: 2008 Smart commuter car gets 40 mpg and will selling in USA for $12k.
On Tue, 03 Jul 2007 07:49:58 -0400, dgk <dgk@somewhere.com> wrote:
>On Sat, 30 Jun 2007 01:10:29 GMT, Jeff <kidsdoc2000@hotmail.com>
>wrote:
>>Actually, it is a perfect car for people in NYC. They're small enough so
>>that you can just drive them into the elevator and park them in the
>>corner of your cubical for the day.
It's not THAT small. Almost... ;-)
>We're not even allowed to bring bikes into commercial buildings in
>NYC, which is why my bike is parked outside. On the other hand, I
>think my bike is bigger so perhaps this will be allowed.
In New York City, home of the "Sucker Pole" - you lock your
expensive bicycle up to the "No Parking" sign, and you can come back
in thirty seconds and both the bike and lock are gone.
They drill out or chisel off and remove the rivet at the base that
holds the pole into the sidewalk, the whole thing slides right out.
And if the rivet is still there, it doesn't take much longer to
remove it, but they have to have Big Brass Ones to do it in daylight
hours with the bike there.
--<< Bruce >>--
>On Sat, 30 Jun 2007 01:10:29 GMT, Jeff <kidsdoc2000@hotmail.com>
>wrote:
>>Actually, it is a perfect car for people in NYC. They're small enough so
>>that you can just drive them into the elevator and park them in the
>>corner of your cubical for the day.
It's not THAT small. Almost... ;-)
>We're not even allowed to bring bikes into commercial buildings in
>NYC, which is why my bike is parked outside. On the other hand, I
>think my bike is bigger so perhaps this will be allowed.
In New York City, home of the "Sucker Pole" - you lock your
expensive bicycle up to the "No Parking" sign, and you can come back
in thirty seconds and both the bike and lock are gone.
They drill out or chisel off and remove the rivet at the base that
holds the pole into the sidewalk, the whole thing slides right out.
And if the rivet is still there, it doesn't take much longer to
remove it, but they have to have Big Brass Ones to do it in daylight
hours with the bike there.
--<< Bruce >>--
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Re: 2008 Smart commuter car gets 40 mpg and will selling in USA for $12k.
On Tue, 03 Jul 2007 07:49:58 -0400, dgk <dgk@somewhere.com> wrote:
>On Sat, 30 Jun 2007 01:10:29 GMT, Jeff <kidsdoc2000@hotmail.com>
>wrote:
>>Actually, it is a perfect car for people in NYC. They're small enough so
>>that you can just drive them into the elevator and park them in the
>>corner of your cubical for the day.
It's not THAT small. Almost... ;-)
>We're not even allowed to bring bikes into commercial buildings in
>NYC, which is why my bike is parked outside. On the other hand, I
>think my bike is bigger so perhaps this will be allowed.
In New York City, home of the "Sucker Pole" - you lock your
expensive bicycle up to the "No Parking" sign, and you can come back
in thirty seconds and both the bike and lock are gone.
They drill out or chisel off and remove the rivet at the base that
holds the pole into the sidewalk, the whole thing slides right out.
And if the rivet is still there, it doesn't take much longer to
remove it, but they have to have Big Brass Ones to do it in daylight
hours with the bike there.
--<< Bruce >>--
>On Sat, 30 Jun 2007 01:10:29 GMT, Jeff <kidsdoc2000@hotmail.com>
>wrote:
>>Actually, it is a perfect car for people in NYC. They're small enough so
>>that you can just drive them into the elevator and park them in the
>>corner of your cubical for the day.
It's not THAT small. Almost... ;-)
>We're not even allowed to bring bikes into commercial buildings in
>NYC, which is why my bike is parked outside. On the other hand, I
>think my bike is bigger so perhaps this will be allowed.
In New York City, home of the "Sucker Pole" - you lock your
expensive bicycle up to the "No Parking" sign, and you can come back
in thirty seconds and both the bike and lock are gone.
They drill out or chisel off and remove the rivet at the base that
holds the pole into the sidewalk, the whole thing slides right out.
And if the rivet is still there, it doesn't take much longer to
remove it, but they have to have Big Brass Ones to do it in daylight
hours with the bike there.
--<< Bruce >>--
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Re: 2008 Smart commuter car gets 40 mpg and will selling in USA for $12k.
Waiving the right to remain silent, Eeyore
<rabbitsfriendsandrelations@hotmail.com> said:
> Michael Pardee wrote:
>
>> "Eeyore" wrote
>> > "Robert A. Cunningham" wrote:
>> >
>> >>
>> >> Consumer Reports had a short article about the "Smart for Two" car
>> >> in their Dec '06 issue (not this same exact model).
>> >> They said it was the worst car they have ever tested.
>> >
>> > In what respect.
>> >
>> > It's the very best for parking.
>>
>>
>> The reliability seems truly substandard. I have occasionally lurked in
>> SMART forums and seen threads about seized alternators (lots and lots
>> of them), engine troubles, turbo troubles, doors jamming when hot
>> (actually a common problem with them apparently), transmission
>> problems.... For soft-top SMART models the motors in the Cabrio roof
>> are notoriously troublesome and repair is shockingly expensive. 50K
>> miles or 80K km is considered old in many circles, the way 250K miles
>> is considered for Toyotas and Hondas. Whether that is justified or just
>> the owners' expectations isn't clear.
>
> Considering it's a Mercedes product that's very disappointing.
Mercedes cars are consistently rated as unreliable in Consumer Reports for
several years in a row. Pretty much the entire model line available in
the USA.
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<rabbitsfriendsandrelations@hotmail.com> said:
> Michael Pardee wrote:
>
>> "Eeyore" wrote
>> > "Robert A. Cunningham" wrote:
>> >
>> >>
>> >> Consumer Reports had a short article about the "Smart for Two" car
>> >> in their Dec '06 issue (not this same exact model).
>> >> They said it was the worst car they have ever tested.
>> >
>> > In what respect.
>> >
>> > It's the very best for parking.
>>
>>
>> The reliability seems truly substandard. I have occasionally lurked in
>> SMART forums and seen threads about seized alternators (lots and lots
>> of them), engine troubles, turbo troubles, doors jamming when hot
>> (actually a common problem with them apparently), transmission
>> problems.... For soft-top SMART models the motors in the Cabrio roof
>> are notoriously troublesome and repair is shockingly expensive. 50K
>> miles or 80K km is considered old in many circles, the way 250K miles
>> is considered for Toyotas and Hondas. Whether that is justified or just
>> the owners' expectations isn't clear.
>
> Considering it's a Mercedes product that's very disappointing.
Mercedes cars are consistently rated as unreliable in Consumer Reports for
several years in a row. Pretty much the entire model line available in
the USA.
--
Larry J. - Remove spamtrap in ALLCAPS to e-mail
"A lack of common sense is now considered a disability,
with all the privileges that this entails."
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Re: 2008 Smart commuter car gets 40 mpg and will selling in USA for $12k.
Waiving the right to remain silent, Eeyore
<rabbitsfriendsandrelations@hotmail.com> said:
> Michael Pardee wrote:
>
>> "Eeyore" wrote
>> > "Robert A. Cunningham" wrote:
>> >
>> >>
>> >> Consumer Reports had a short article about the "Smart for Two" car
>> >> in their Dec '06 issue (not this same exact model).
>> >> They said it was the worst car they have ever tested.
>> >
>> > In what respect.
>> >
>> > It's the very best for parking.
>>
>>
>> The reliability seems truly substandard. I have occasionally lurked in
>> SMART forums and seen threads about seized alternators (lots and lots
>> of them), engine troubles, turbo troubles, doors jamming when hot
>> (actually a common problem with them apparently), transmission
>> problems.... For soft-top SMART models the motors in the Cabrio roof
>> are notoriously troublesome and repair is shockingly expensive. 50K
>> miles or 80K km is considered old in many circles, the way 250K miles
>> is considered for Toyotas and Hondas. Whether that is justified or just
>> the owners' expectations isn't clear.
>
> Considering it's a Mercedes product that's very disappointing.
Mercedes cars are consistently rated as unreliable in Consumer Reports for
several years in a row. Pretty much the entire model line available in
the USA.
--
Larry J. - Remove spamtrap in ALLCAPS to e-mail
"A lack of common sense is now considered a disability,
with all the privileges that this entails."
<rabbitsfriendsandrelations@hotmail.com> said:
> Michael Pardee wrote:
>
>> "Eeyore" wrote
>> > "Robert A. Cunningham" wrote:
>> >
>> >>
>> >> Consumer Reports had a short article about the "Smart for Two" car
>> >> in their Dec '06 issue (not this same exact model).
>> >> They said it was the worst car they have ever tested.
>> >
>> > In what respect.
>> >
>> > It's the very best for parking.
>>
>>
>> The reliability seems truly substandard. I have occasionally lurked in
>> SMART forums and seen threads about seized alternators (lots and lots
>> of them), engine troubles, turbo troubles, doors jamming when hot
>> (actually a common problem with them apparently), transmission
>> problems.... For soft-top SMART models the motors in the Cabrio roof
>> are notoriously troublesome and repair is shockingly expensive. 50K
>> miles or 80K km is considered old in many circles, the way 250K miles
>> is considered for Toyotas and Hondas. Whether that is justified or just
>> the owners' expectations isn't clear.
>
> Considering it's a Mercedes product that's very disappointing.
Mercedes cars are consistently rated as unreliable in Consumer Reports for
several years in a row. Pretty much the entire model line available in
the USA.
--
Larry J. - Remove spamtrap in ALLCAPS to e-mail
"A lack of common sense is now considered a disability,
with all the privileges that this entails."
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Re: 2008 Smart commuter car gets 40 mpg and will selling in USA for $12k.
Waiving the right to remain silent, Eeyore
<rabbitsfriendsandrelations@hotmail.com> said:
> Michael Pardee wrote:
>
>> "Eeyore" wrote
>> > "Robert A. Cunningham" wrote:
>> >
>> >>
>> >> Consumer Reports had a short article about the "Smart for Two" car
>> >> in their Dec '06 issue (not this same exact model).
>> >> They said it was the worst car they have ever tested.
>> >
>> > In what respect.
>> >
>> > It's the very best for parking.
>>
>>
>> The reliability seems truly substandard. I have occasionally lurked in
>> SMART forums and seen threads about seized alternators (lots and lots
>> of them), engine troubles, turbo troubles, doors jamming when hot
>> (actually a common problem with them apparently), transmission
>> problems.... For soft-top SMART models the motors in the Cabrio roof
>> are notoriously troublesome and repair is shockingly expensive. 50K
>> miles or 80K km is considered old in many circles, the way 250K miles
>> is considered for Toyotas and Hondas. Whether that is justified or just
>> the owners' expectations isn't clear.
>
> Considering it's a Mercedes product that's very disappointing.
Mercedes cars are consistently rated as unreliable in Consumer Reports for
several years in a row. Pretty much the entire model line available in
the USA.
--
Larry J. - Remove spamtrap in ALLCAPS to e-mail
"A lack of common sense is now considered a disability,
with all the privileges that this entails."
<rabbitsfriendsandrelations@hotmail.com> said:
> Michael Pardee wrote:
>
>> "Eeyore" wrote
>> > "Robert A. Cunningham" wrote:
>> >
>> >>
>> >> Consumer Reports had a short article about the "Smart for Two" car
>> >> in their Dec '06 issue (not this same exact model).
>> >> They said it was the worst car they have ever tested.
>> >
>> > In what respect.
>> >
>> > It's the very best for parking.
>>
>>
>> The reliability seems truly substandard. I have occasionally lurked in
>> SMART forums and seen threads about seized alternators (lots and lots
>> of them), engine troubles, turbo troubles, doors jamming when hot
>> (actually a common problem with them apparently), transmission
>> problems.... For soft-top SMART models the motors in the Cabrio roof
>> are notoriously troublesome and repair is shockingly expensive. 50K
>> miles or 80K km is considered old in many circles, the way 250K miles
>> is considered for Toyotas and Hondas. Whether that is justified or just
>> the owners' expectations isn't clear.
>
> Considering it's a Mercedes product that's very disappointing.
Mercedes cars are consistently rated as unreliable in Consumer Reports for
several years in a row. Pretty much the entire model line available in
the USA.
--
Larry J. - Remove spamtrap in ALLCAPS to e-mail
"A lack of common sense is now considered a disability,
with all the privileges that this entails."
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Re: 2008 Smart commuter car gets 40 mpg and will selling in USA for $12k.
On Wed, 04 Jul 2007 06:34:34 GMT, Larry in AZ
<usenet2@DE.LETE.THISljvideo.com> wrote:
>
>Mercedes cars are consistently rated as unreliable in Consumer Reports for
>several years in a row. Pretty much the entire model line available in
>the USA.
I seem to remember them coming in pretty near last!
<usenet2@DE.LETE.THISljvideo.com> wrote:
>
>Mercedes cars are consistently rated as unreliable in Consumer Reports for
>several years in a row. Pretty much the entire model line available in
>the USA.
I seem to remember them coming in pretty near last!
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On Wed, 04 Jul 2007 06:34:34 GMT, Larry in AZ
<usenet2@DE.LETE.THISljvideo.com> wrote:
>
>Mercedes cars are consistently rated as unreliable in Consumer Reports for
>several years in a row. Pretty much the entire model line available in
>the USA.
I seem to remember them coming in pretty near last!
<usenet2@DE.LETE.THISljvideo.com> wrote:
>
>Mercedes cars are consistently rated as unreliable in Consumer Reports for
>several years in a row. Pretty much the entire model line available in
>the USA.
I seem to remember them coming in pretty near last!
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On Wed, 04 Jul 2007 06:34:34 GMT, Larry in AZ
<usenet2@DE.LETE.THISljvideo.com> wrote:
>
>Mercedes cars are consistently rated as unreliable in Consumer Reports for
>several years in a row. Pretty much the entire model line available in
>the USA.
I seem to remember them coming in pretty near last!
<usenet2@DE.LETE.THISljvideo.com> wrote:
>
>Mercedes cars are consistently rated as unreliable in Consumer Reports for
>several years in a row. Pretty much the entire model line available in
>the USA.
I seem to remember them coming in pretty near last!
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"Bruce L. Bergman" <blnospambergman@earthlink.invalid> wrote in message
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> On Tue, 03 Jul 2007 07:49:58 -0400, dgk <dgk@somewhere.com> wrote:
>
>>We're not even allowed to bring bikes into commercial buildings in
>>NYC, which is why my bike is parked outside. On the other hand, I
>>think my bike is bigger so perhaps this will be allowed.
>
> In New York City, home of the "Sucker Pole" - you lock your
> expensive bicycle up to the "No Parking" sign, and you can come back
> in thirty seconds and both the bike and lock are gone.
>
> They drill out or chisel off and remove the rivet at the base that
> holds the pole into the sidewalk, the whole thing slides right out.
>
> And if the rivet is still there, it doesn't take much longer to
> remove it, but they have to have Big Brass Ones to do it in daylight
> hours with the bike there.
>
In "Anybody's Bike Book" Tom Cuthbertson suggests all bikes weigh 50 lbs. A
20 lb bike needs a 30 lb lock, a 30 lb bike needs a 20 lb lock, and a 50 lb
bike needs no lock at all!
news:ce5m83pgs154uve71a55hr2qcho43o36o4@4ax.com...
> On Tue, 03 Jul 2007 07:49:58 -0400, dgk <dgk@somewhere.com> wrote:
>
>>We're not even allowed to bring bikes into commercial buildings in
>>NYC, which is why my bike is parked outside. On the other hand, I
>>think my bike is bigger so perhaps this will be allowed.
>
> In New York City, home of the "Sucker Pole" - you lock your
> expensive bicycle up to the "No Parking" sign, and you can come back
> in thirty seconds and both the bike and lock are gone.
>
> They drill out or chisel off and remove the rivet at the base that
> holds the pole into the sidewalk, the whole thing slides right out.
>
> And if the rivet is still there, it doesn't take much longer to
> remove it, but they have to have Big Brass Ones to do it in daylight
> hours with the bike there.
>
In "Anybody's Bike Book" Tom Cuthbertson suggests all bikes weigh 50 lbs. A
20 lb bike needs a 30 lb lock, a 30 lb bike needs a 20 lb lock, and a 50 lb
bike needs no lock at all!
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Re: 2008 Smart commuter car gets 40 mpg and will selling in USA for $12k.
"Bruce L. Bergman" <blnospambergman@earthlink.invalid> wrote in message
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> On Tue, 03 Jul 2007 07:49:58 -0400, dgk <dgk@somewhere.com> wrote:
>
>>We're not even allowed to bring bikes into commercial buildings in
>>NYC, which is why my bike is parked outside. On the other hand, I
>>think my bike is bigger so perhaps this will be allowed.
>
> In New York City, home of the "Sucker Pole" - you lock your
> expensive bicycle up to the "No Parking" sign, and you can come back
> in thirty seconds and both the bike and lock are gone.
>
> They drill out or chisel off and remove the rivet at the base that
> holds the pole into the sidewalk, the whole thing slides right out.
>
> And if the rivet is still there, it doesn't take much longer to
> remove it, but they have to have Big Brass Ones to do it in daylight
> hours with the bike there.
>
In "Anybody's Bike Book" Tom Cuthbertson suggests all bikes weigh 50 lbs. A
20 lb bike needs a 30 lb lock, a 30 lb bike needs a 20 lb lock, and a 50 lb
bike needs no lock at all!
news:ce5m83pgs154uve71a55hr2qcho43o36o4@4ax.com...
> On Tue, 03 Jul 2007 07:49:58 -0400, dgk <dgk@somewhere.com> wrote:
>
>>We're not even allowed to bring bikes into commercial buildings in
>>NYC, which is why my bike is parked outside. On the other hand, I
>>think my bike is bigger so perhaps this will be allowed.
>
> In New York City, home of the "Sucker Pole" - you lock your
> expensive bicycle up to the "No Parking" sign, and you can come back
> in thirty seconds and both the bike and lock are gone.
>
> They drill out or chisel off and remove the rivet at the base that
> holds the pole into the sidewalk, the whole thing slides right out.
>
> And if the rivet is still there, it doesn't take much longer to
> remove it, but they have to have Big Brass Ones to do it in daylight
> hours with the bike there.
>
In "Anybody's Bike Book" Tom Cuthbertson suggests all bikes weigh 50 lbs. A
20 lb bike needs a 30 lb lock, a 30 lb bike needs a 20 lb lock, and a 50 lb
bike needs no lock at all!