87 Accord - running problem with too much pedal
 

This is an 87 Accord LX w/auto trans and 2 bbl carb.

It will accelerate nicely to a point, but if I push the gas pedal too far it
will sputter, lose power, and the tranny can even disengage so that the
engine revs high but the car don't go. Any idea what it could be? I have
just changed both fuel filters, and done some carb cleaning running the
engine and spraying carb cleaner (through the horns). The plugs and wires
look Ok.

One thing I have done in this car's recent on the road history was to add,
and then remove, an aftermarket fuel pump in line just before the carb. The
aftermarket pump was probably creating twice the fuel pressure as needed
(4-7 lbs).

- Mark

Re: 87 Accord - running problem with too much pedal
 

In article <xbK8b.5205$Ci3.129@bignews3.bellsouth.net>, "Mark G Meyers"
<mgmeyers@bellsouth.net> wrote:

> This is an 87 Accord LX w/auto trans and 2 bbl carb.
>
> It will accelerate nicely to a point, but if I push the gas pedal too far it
> will sputter, lose power, and the tranny can even disengage so that the
> engine revs high but the car don't go. Any idea what it could be? I have
> just changed both fuel filters, and done some carb cleaning running the
> engine and spraying carb cleaner (through the horns). The plugs and wires
> look Ok.
>
> One thing I have done in this car's recent on the road history was to add,
> and then remove, an aftermarket fuel pump in line just before the carb. The
> aftermarket pump was probably creating twice the fuel pressure as needed
> (4-7 lbs).
>
> - Mark

It appears to me to be a fuel problem or carb. problem. I suggest that you
go to a Honda dealership and order a fuel pump made for your car. If the
new fuel pump does not solve the problem, you may need to do some more
work on the carb such as installing a carb kit. You should also adjust the
timing and change the points and adjust the points. Also--check dist. cap
for cracks.

Re: 87 Accord - running problem with too much pedal
 

In article <xbK8b.5205$Ci3.129@bignews3.bellsouth.net>, "Mark G Meyers"
<mgmeyers@bellsouth.net> wrote:

> This is an 87 Accord LX w/auto trans and 2 bbl carb.
>
> It will accelerate nicely to a point, but if I push the gas pedal too far it
> will sputter, lose power, and the tranny can even disengage so that the
> engine revs high but the car don't go. Any idea what it could be? I have
> just changed both fuel filters, and done some carb cleaning running the
> engine and spraying carb cleaner (through the horns). The plugs and wires
> look Ok.
>
> One thing I have done in this car's recent on the road history was to add,
> and then remove, an aftermarket fuel pump in line just before the carb. The
> aftermarket pump was probably creating twice the fuel pressure as needed
> (4-7 lbs).
>
> - Mark

It appears to me to be a fuel problem or carb. problem. I suggest that you
go to a Honda dealership and order a fuel pump made for your car. If the
new fuel pump does not solve the problem, you may need to do some more
work on the carb such as installing a carb kit. You should also adjust the
timing and change the points and adjust the points. Also--check dist. cap
for cracks.

Re: 87 Accord - running problem with too much pedal
 

In article <xbK8b.5205$Ci3.129@bignews3.bellsouth.net>, "Mark G Meyers"
<mgmeyers@bellsouth.net> wrote:

> This is an 87 Accord LX w/auto trans and 2 bbl carb.
>
> It will accelerate nicely to a point, but if I push the gas pedal too far it
> will sputter, lose power, and the tranny can even disengage so that the
> engine revs high but the car don't go. Any idea what it could be? I have
> just changed both fuel filters, and done some carb cleaning running the
> engine and spraying carb cleaner (through the horns). The plugs and wires
> look Ok.
>
> One thing I have done in this car's recent on the road history was to add,
> and then remove, an aftermarket fuel pump in line just before the carb. The
> aftermarket pump was probably creating twice the fuel pressure as needed
> (4-7 lbs).
>
> - Mark

It appears to me to be a fuel problem or carb. problem. I suggest that you
go to a Honda dealership and order a fuel pump made for your car. If the
new fuel pump does not solve the problem, you may need to do some more
work on the carb such as installing a carb kit. You should also adjust the
timing and change the points and adjust the points. Also--check dist. cap
for cracks.

Re: 87 Accord - running problem with too much pedal
 

Points?
I didn't know cars made in '87 had points.


"Bill B. Johnson" <billbjohnson555@nospamhotmail.com> wrote in message
news:billbjohnson555-1309031518100001@pm5-broad-70.snlo.dialup.fix.net...
> In article <xbK8b.5205$Ci3.129@bignews3.bellsouth.net>, "Mark G Meyers"
> <mgmeyers@bellsouth.net> wrote:
>
> > This is an 87 Accord LX w/auto trans and 2 bbl carb.
> >
> > It will accelerate nicely to a point, but if I push the gas pedal too
far it
> > will sputter, lose power, and the tranny can even disengage so that the
> > engine revs high but the car don't go. Any idea what it could be? I
have
> > just changed both fuel filters, and done some carb cleaning running the
> > engine and spraying carb cleaner (through the horns). The plugs and
wires
> > look Ok.
> >
> > One thing I have done in this car's recent on the road history was to
add,
> > and then remove, an aftermarket fuel pump in line just before the carb.
The
> > aftermarket pump was probably creating twice the fuel pressure as needed
> > (4-7 lbs).
> >
> > - Mark
>
> It appears to me to be a fuel problem or carb. problem. I suggest that you
> go to a Honda dealership and order a fuel pump made for your car. If the
> new fuel pump does not solve the problem, you may need to do some more
> work on the carb such as installing a carb kit. You should also adjust the
> timing and change the points and adjust the points. Also--check dist. cap
> for cracks.

Re: 87 Accord - running problem with too much pedal
 

Points?
I didn't know cars made in '87 had points.


"Bill B. Johnson" <billbjohnson555@nospamhotmail.com> wrote in message
news:billbjohnson555-1309031518100001@pm5-broad-70.snlo.dialup.fix.net...
> In article <xbK8b.5205$Ci3.129@bignews3.bellsouth.net>, "Mark G Meyers"
> <mgmeyers@bellsouth.net> wrote:
>
> > This is an 87 Accord LX w/auto trans and 2 bbl carb.
> >
> > It will accelerate nicely to a point, but if I push the gas pedal too
far it
> > will sputter, lose power, and the tranny can even disengage so that the
> > engine revs high but the car don't go. Any idea what it could be? I
have
> > just changed both fuel filters, and done some carb cleaning running the
> > engine and spraying carb cleaner (through the horns). The plugs and
wires
> > look Ok.
> >
> > One thing I have done in this car's recent on the road history was to
add,
> > and then remove, an aftermarket fuel pump in line just before the carb.
The
> > aftermarket pump was probably creating twice the fuel pressure as needed
> > (4-7 lbs).
> >
> > - Mark
>
> It appears to me to be a fuel problem or carb. problem. I suggest that you
> go to a Honda dealership and order a fuel pump made for your car. If the
> new fuel pump does not solve the problem, you may need to do some more
> work on the carb such as installing a carb kit. You should also adjust the
> timing and change the points and adjust the points. Also--check dist. cap
> for cracks.

Re: 87 Accord - running problem with too much pedal
 

Points?
I didn't know cars made in '87 had points.


"Bill B. Johnson" <billbjohnson555@nospamhotmail.com> wrote in message
news:billbjohnson555-1309031518100001@pm5-broad-70.snlo.dialup.fix.net...
> In article <xbK8b.5205$Ci3.129@bignews3.bellsouth.net>, "Mark G Meyers"
> <mgmeyers@bellsouth.net> wrote:
>
> > This is an 87 Accord LX w/auto trans and 2 bbl carb.
> >
> > It will accelerate nicely to a point, but if I push the gas pedal too
far it
> > will sputter, lose power, and the tranny can even disengage so that the
> > engine revs high but the car don't go. Any idea what it could be? I
have
> > just changed both fuel filters, and done some carb cleaning running the
> > engine and spraying carb cleaner (through the horns). The plugs and
wires
> > look Ok.
> >
> > One thing I have done in this car's recent on the road history was to
add,
> > and then remove, an aftermarket fuel pump in line just before the carb.
The
> > aftermarket pump was probably creating twice the fuel pressure as needed
> > (4-7 lbs).
> >
> > - Mark
>
> It appears to me to be a fuel problem or carb. problem. I suggest that you
> go to a Honda dealership and order a fuel pump made for your car. If the
> new fuel pump does not solve the problem, you may need to do some more
> work on the carb such as installing a carb kit. You should also adjust the
> timing and change the points and adjust the points. Also--check dist. cap
> for cracks.

Re: 87 Accord - running problem with too much pedal
 

Added info:
I got a pressure gauge and put it on the fuel line (otherwise going into the
carb). It looks like it can make 2 pounds of pressure. The haynes manual
has a more elaborate test for pump pressure involving removing the fuel pump
relay and shorting across 1 and 2, and I haven't quite exactly found the
relay yet, or how to remove it. But, they say 2.4 to 3.4 is what it needs
to show.

What I can't figure out is how this could have happened with my aftermarket
fuel pump in line to the carb as before. It appears the same problem was
occuring then!



"Mark G Meyers" <mgmeyers@bellsouth.net> wrote in message
news:xbK8b.5205$Ci3.129@bignews3.bellsouth.net...
> This is an 87 Accord LX w/auto trans and 2 bbl carb.
>
> It will accelerate nicely to a point, but if I push the gas pedal too far
it
> will sputter, lose power, and the tranny can even disengage so that the
> engine revs high but the car don't go. Any idea what it could be? I have
> just changed both fuel filters, and done some carb cleaning running the
> engine and spraying carb cleaner (through the horns). The plugs and wires
> look Ok.
>
> One thing I have done in this car's recent on the road history was to add,
> and then remove, an aftermarket fuel pump in line just before the carb.
The
> aftermarket pump was probably creating twice the fuel pressure as needed
> (4-7 lbs).
>
> - Mark
>
>

Re: 87 Accord - running problem with too much pedal
 

Added info:
I got a pressure gauge and put it on the fuel line (otherwise going into the
carb). It looks like it can make 2 pounds of pressure. The haynes manual
has a more elaborate test for pump pressure involving removing the fuel pump
relay and shorting across 1 and 2, and I haven't quite exactly found the
relay yet, or how to remove it. But, they say 2.4 to 3.4 is what it needs
to show.

What I can't figure out is how this could have happened with my aftermarket
fuel pump in line to the carb as before. It appears the same problem was
occuring then!



"Mark G Meyers" <mgmeyers@bellsouth.net> wrote in message
news:xbK8b.5205$Ci3.129@bignews3.bellsouth.net...
> This is an 87 Accord LX w/auto trans and 2 bbl carb.
>
> It will accelerate nicely to a point, but if I push the gas pedal too far
it
> will sputter, lose power, and the tranny can even disengage so that the
> engine revs high but the car don't go. Any idea what it could be? I have
> just changed both fuel filters, and done some carb cleaning running the
> engine and spraying carb cleaner (through the horns). The plugs and wires
> look Ok.
>
> One thing I have done in this car's recent on the road history was to add,
> and then remove, an aftermarket fuel pump in line just before the carb.
The
> aftermarket pump was probably creating twice the fuel pressure as needed
> (4-7 lbs).
>
> - Mark
>
>

Re: 87 Accord - running problem with too much pedal
 

Added info:
I got a pressure gauge and put it on the fuel line (otherwise going into the
carb). It looks like it can make 2 pounds of pressure. The haynes manual
has a more elaborate test for pump pressure involving removing the fuel pump
relay and shorting across 1 and 2, and I haven't quite exactly found the
relay yet, or how to remove it. But, they say 2.4 to 3.4 is what it needs
to show.

What I can't figure out is how this could have happened with my aftermarket
fuel pump in line to the carb as before. It appears the same problem was
occuring then!



"Mark G Meyers" <mgmeyers@bellsouth.net> wrote in message
news:xbK8b.5205$Ci3.129@bignews3.bellsouth.net...
> This is an 87 Accord LX w/auto trans and 2 bbl carb.
>
> It will accelerate nicely to a point, but if I push the gas pedal too far
it
> will sputter, lose power, and the tranny can even disengage so that the
> engine revs high but the car don't go. Any idea what it could be? I have
> just changed both fuel filters, and done some carb cleaning running the
> engine and spraying carb cleaner (through the horns). The plugs and wires
> look Ok.
>
> One thing I have done in this car's recent on the road history was to add,
> and then remove, an aftermarket fuel pump in line just before the carb.
The
> aftermarket pump was probably creating twice the fuel pressure as needed
> (4-7 lbs).
>
> - Mark
>
>

Re: 87 Accord - running problem with too much pedal
 

Sounds like you have a bad tranny.

"Mark G Meyers" <mgmeyers@bellsouth.net> wrote in message
news:xbK8b.5205$Ci3.129@bignews3.bellsouth.net...
> This is an 87 Accord LX w/auto trans and 2 bbl carb.
>
> It will accelerate nicely to a point, but if I push the gas pedal too far
it
> will sputter, lose power, and the tranny can even disengage so that the
> engine revs high but the car don't go. Any idea what it could be? I have
> just changed both fuel filters, and done some carb cleaning running the
> engine and spraying carb cleaner (through the horns). The plugs and wires
> look Ok.
>
> One thing I have done in this car's recent on the road history was to add,
> and then remove, an aftermarket fuel pump in line just before the carb.
The
> aftermarket pump was probably creating twice the fuel pressure as needed
> (4-7 lbs).
>
> - Mark
>
>

Re: 87 Accord - running problem with too much pedal
 

Sounds like you have a bad tranny.

"Mark G Meyers" <mgmeyers@bellsouth.net> wrote in message
news:xbK8b.5205$Ci3.129@bignews3.bellsouth.net...
> This is an 87 Accord LX w/auto trans and 2 bbl carb.
>
> It will accelerate nicely to a point, but if I push the gas pedal too far
it
> will sputter, lose power, and the tranny can even disengage so that the
> engine revs high but the car don't go. Any idea what it could be? I have
> just changed both fuel filters, and done some carb cleaning running the
> engine and spraying carb cleaner (through the horns). The plugs and wires
> look Ok.
>
> One thing I have done in this car's recent on the road history was to add,
> and then remove, an aftermarket fuel pump in line just before the carb.
The
> aftermarket pump was probably creating twice the fuel pressure as needed
> (4-7 lbs).
>
> - Mark
>
>

Re: 87 Accord - running problem with too much pedal
 

Sounds like you have a bad tranny.

"Mark G Meyers" <mgmeyers@bellsouth.net> wrote in message
news:xbK8b.5205$Ci3.129@bignews3.bellsouth.net...
> This is an 87 Accord LX w/auto trans and 2 bbl carb.
>
> It will accelerate nicely to a point, but if I push the gas pedal too far
it
> will sputter, lose power, and the tranny can even disengage so that the
> engine revs high but the car don't go. Any idea what it could be? I have
> just changed both fuel filters, and done some carb cleaning running the
> engine and spraying carb cleaner (through the horns). The plugs and wires
> look Ok.
>
> One thing I have done in this car's recent on the road history was to add,
> and then remove, an aftermarket fuel pump in line just before the carb.
The
> aftermarket pump was probably creating twice the fuel pressure as needed
> (4-7 lbs).
>
> - Mark
>
>

Re: 87 Accord - running problem with too much pedal
 

the throttle plate for the secondary is vacuum controlled,
check for vacumm leaks, and also check the vacuum advance
on the distributor


In article <xbK8b.5205$Ci3.129@bignews3.bellsouth.net>,
mgmeyers@bellsouth.net says...
> This is an 87 Accord LX w/auto trans and 2 bbl carb.
>
> It will accelerate nicely to a point, but if I push the gas pedal too far it
> will sputter, lose power, and the tranny can even disengage so that the
> engine revs high but the car don't go. Any idea what it could be? I have
> just changed both fuel filters, and done some carb cleaning running the
> engine and spraying carb cleaner (through the horns). The plugs and wires
> look Ok.
>
> One thing I have done in this car's recent on the road history was to add,
> and then remove, an aftermarket fuel pump in line just before the carb. The
> aftermarket pump was probably creating twice the fuel pressure as needed
> (4-7 lbs).
>
> - Mark
>
>
>

Re: 87 Accord - running problem with too much pedal
 

the throttle plate for the secondary is vacuum controlled,
check for vacumm leaks, and also check the vacuum advance
on the distributor


In article <xbK8b.5205$Ci3.129@bignews3.bellsouth.net>,
mgmeyers@bellsouth.net says...
> This is an 87 Accord LX w/auto trans and 2 bbl carb.
>
> It will accelerate nicely to a point, but if I push the gas pedal too far it
> will sputter, lose power, and the tranny can even disengage so that the
> engine revs high but the car don't go. Any idea what it could be? I have
> just changed both fuel filters, and done some carb cleaning running the
> engine and spraying carb cleaner (through the horns). The plugs and wires
> look Ok.
>
> One thing I have done in this car's recent on the road history was to add,
> and then remove, an aftermarket fuel pump in line just before the carb. The
> aftermarket pump was probably creating twice the fuel pressure as needed
> (4-7 lbs).
>
> - Mark
>
>
>