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doug 09-13-2003 10:35 PM

Re: 87 Accord - running problem with too much pedal
 
the throttle plate for the secondary is vacuum controlled,
check for vacumm leaks, and also check the vacuum advance
on the distributor


In article <xbK8b.5205$Ci3.129@bignews3.bellsouth.net>,
mgmeyers@bellsouth.net says...
> This is an 87 Accord LX w/auto trans and 2 bbl carb.
>
> It will accelerate nicely to a point, but if I push the gas pedal too far it
> will sputter, lose power, and the tranny can even disengage so that the
> engine revs high but the car don't go. Any idea what it could be? I have
> just changed both fuel filters, and done some carb cleaning running the
> engine and spraying carb cleaner (through the horns). The plugs and wires
> look Ok.
>
> One thing I have done in this car's recent on the road history was to add,
> and then remove, an aftermarket fuel pump in line just before the carb. The
> aftermarket pump was probably creating twice the fuel pressure as needed
> (4-7 lbs).
>
> - Mark
>
>
>


Bill B. Johnson 09-14-2003 06:29 PM

Re: 87 Accord - running problem with too much pedal
 
In article <OLN8b.2753$fm2.2355@bignews1.bellsouth.net>, "Mark G Meyers"
<mgmeyers@bellsouth.net> wrote:

> Added info:
> I got a pressure gauge and put it on the fuel line (otherwise going into the
> carb). It looks like it can make 2 pounds of pressure. The haynes manual
> has a more elaborate test for pump pressure involving removing the fuel pump
> relay and shorting across 1 and 2, and I haven't quite exactly found the
> relay yet, or how to remove it. But, they say 2.4 to 3.4 is what it needs
> to show.
>
> What I can't figure out is how this could have happened with my aftermarket
> fuel pump in line to the carb as before. It appears the same problem was
> occuring then!
>
>
>
> "Mark G Meyers" <mgmeyers@bellsouth.net> wrote in message
> news:xbK8b.5205$Ci3.129@bignews3.bellsouth.net...
> > This is an 87 Accord LX w/auto trans and 2 bbl carb.
> >
> > It will accelerate nicely to a point, but if I push the gas pedal too far

> it
> > will sputter, lose power, and the tranny can even disengage so that the
> > engine revs high but the car don't go. Any idea what it could be? I have
> > just changed both fuel filters, and done some carb cleaning running the
> > engine and spraying carb cleaner (through the horns). The plugs and wires
> > look Ok.
> >
> > One thing I have done in this car's recent on the road history was to add,
> > and then remove, an aftermarket fuel pump in line just before the carb.

> The
> > aftermarket pump was probably creating twice the fuel pressure as needed
> > (4-7 lbs).
> >
> > - Mark
> >
> >


I don't usually trust after market items since they are usually made to
work with dozens of types and models of cars. They may or may not work in
conjuction with your engine and engine related parts. That's why I
suggested that you install a fuel pump from Honda Dealership that was made
for your vehicle. You could also order one from a junkyard dealer--they
are on a computer network and can get one for you even if they don't have
any wrecked vehicles identical to your vehicle on the lot.

Bill B. Johnson 09-14-2003 06:29 PM

Re: 87 Accord - running problem with too much pedal
 
In article <OLN8b.2753$fm2.2355@bignews1.bellsouth.net>, "Mark G Meyers"
<mgmeyers@bellsouth.net> wrote:

> Added info:
> I got a pressure gauge and put it on the fuel line (otherwise going into the
> carb). It looks like it can make 2 pounds of pressure. The haynes manual
> has a more elaborate test for pump pressure involving removing the fuel pump
> relay and shorting across 1 and 2, and I haven't quite exactly found the
> relay yet, or how to remove it. But, they say 2.4 to 3.4 is what it needs
> to show.
>
> What I can't figure out is how this could have happened with my aftermarket
> fuel pump in line to the carb as before. It appears the same problem was
> occuring then!
>
>
>
> "Mark G Meyers" <mgmeyers@bellsouth.net> wrote in message
> news:xbK8b.5205$Ci3.129@bignews3.bellsouth.net...
> > This is an 87 Accord LX w/auto trans and 2 bbl carb.
> >
> > It will accelerate nicely to a point, but if I push the gas pedal too far

> it
> > will sputter, lose power, and the tranny can even disengage so that the
> > engine revs high but the car don't go. Any idea what it could be? I have
> > just changed both fuel filters, and done some carb cleaning running the
> > engine and spraying carb cleaner (through the horns). The plugs and wires
> > look Ok.
> >
> > One thing I have done in this car's recent on the road history was to add,
> > and then remove, an aftermarket fuel pump in line just before the carb.

> The
> > aftermarket pump was probably creating twice the fuel pressure as needed
> > (4-7 lbs).
> >
> > - Mark
> >
> >


I don't usually trust after market items since they are usually made to
work with dozens of types and models of cars. They may or may not work in
conjuction with your engine and engine related parts. That's why I
suggested that you install a fuel pump from Honda Dealership that was made
for your vehicle. You could also order one from a junkyard dealer--they
are on a computer network and can get one for you even if they don't have
any wrecked vehicles identical to your vehicle on the lot.

Bill B. Johnson 09-14-2003 06:29 PM

Re: 87 Accord - running problem with too much pedal
 
In article <OLN8b.2753$fm2.2355@bignews1.bellsouth.net>, "Mark G Meyers"
<mgmeyers@bellsouth.net> wrote:

> Added info:
> I got a pressure gauge and put it on the fuel line (otherwise going into the
> carb). It looks like it can make 2 pounds of pressure. The haynes manual
> has a more elaborate test for pump pressure involving removing the fuel pump
> relay and shorting across 1 and 2, and I haven't quite exactly found the
> relay yet, or how to remove it. But, they say 2.4 to 3.4 is what it needs
> to show.
>
> What I can't figure out is how this could have happened with my aftermarket
> fuel pump in line to the carb as before. It appears the same problem was
> occuring then!
>
>
>
> "Mark G Meyers" <mgmeyers@bellsouth.net> wrote in message
> news:xbK8b.5205$Ci3.129@bignews3.bellsouth.net...
> > This is an 87 Accord LX w/auto trans and 2 bbl carb.
> >
> > It will accelerate nicely to a point, but if I push the gas pedal too far

> it
> > will sputter, lose power, and the tranny can even disengage so that the
> > engine revs high but the car don't go. Any idea what it could be? I have
> > just changed both fuel filters, and done some carb cleaning running the
> > engine and spraying carb cleaner (through the horns). The plugs and wires
> > look Ok.
> >
> > One thing I have done in this car's recent on the road history was to add,
> > and then remove, an aftermarket fuel pump in line just before the carb.

> The
> > aftermarket pump was probably creating twice the fuel pressure as needed
> > (4-7 lbs).
> >
> > - Mark
> >
> >


I don't usually trust after market items since they are usually made to
work with dozens of types and models of cars. They may or may not work in
conjuction with your engine and engine related parts. That's why I
suggested that you install a fuel pump from Honda Dealership that was made
for your vehicle. You could also order one from a junkyard dealer--they
are on a computer network and can get one for you even if they don't have
any wrecked vehicles identical to your vehicle on the lot.


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