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'89 Accord, No warning signs... now, suddenly, no Fwd or Rev. only loud grinding noise HELP!?
Any ideas what this might be???
He's the story... 1989 Honda Accord 125,000 miles, it's my 18 yr old sons car. I had 4 snows mounted at Sams club for him. I drove the car 3 miles home. The next day I was backing out of a tight parking spot. ie like reverse of a parellel parking. Turning very sharp while backing up and all of the sudden I heard a loud grinding. I put it in fwd and the car moved but made noise. I tried reverse and small movement with loud grinding noise, fwd again and only loud noise and grinding. Now nothing.... no fwd or rev only this loud grinding noise.!!! any clues on the problem and cost of repair I 'm facing? THANK YOU!!! Jerry |
Re: '89 Accord, No warning signs... now, suddenly, no Fwd or Rev. only loud grinding noise HELP!?
Broken cv-joint or differential? Did you hear any clicking on sharp turns
in the months prior to this? "Voyager" <Voyager_cny@yahoo.com> wrote in message news:yb8Pb.44486$IQ2.17382@twister.nyroc.rr.com... > Any ideas what this might be??? > > He's the story... 1989 Honda Accord 125,000 miles, it's my 18 yr old sons > car. I had 4 snows mounted at Sams club for him. I drove the car 3 miles > home. The next day I was backing out of a tight parking spot. ie like > reverse of a parellel parking. Turning very sharp while backing up and all > of the sudden I heard a loud grinding. I put it in fwd and the car moved > but made noise. I tried reverse and small movement with loud grinding > noise, fwd again and only loud noise and grinding. Now nothing.... no fwd > or rev only this loud grinding noise.!!! > > any clues on the problem and cost of repair I 'm facing? > > THANK YOU!!! Jerry > > |
Re: '89 Accord, No warning signs... now, suddenly, no Fwd or Rev. only loud grinding noise HELP!?
Broken cv-joint or differential? Did you hear any clicking on sharp turns
in the months prior to this? "Voyager" <Voyager_cny@yahoo.com> wrote in message news:yb8Pb.44486$IQ2.17382@twister.nyroc.rr.com... > Any ideas what this might be??? > > He's the story... 1989 Honda Accord 125,000 miles, it's my 18 yr old sons > car. I had 4 snows mounted at Sams club for him. I drove the car 3 miles > home. The next day I was backing out of a tight parking spot. ie like > reverse of a parellel parking. Turning very sharp while backing up and all > of the sudden I heard a loud grinding. I put it in fwd and the car moved > but made noise. I tried reverse and small movement with loud grinding > noise, fwd again and only loud noise and grinding. Now nothing.... no fwd > or rev only this loud grinding noise.!!! > > any clues on the problem and cost of repair I 'm facing? > > THANK YOU!!! Jerry > > |
Re: '89 Accord, No warning signs... now, suddenly, no Fwd or Rev. only loud grinding noise HELP!?
Broken cv-joint or differential? Did you hear any clicking on sharp turns
in the months prior to this? "Voyager" <Voyager_cny@yahoo.com> wrote in message news:yb8Pb.44486$IQ2.17382@twister.nyroc.rr.com... > Any ideas what this might be??? > > He's the story... 1989 Honda Accord 125,000 miles, it's my 18 yr old sons > car. I had 4 snows mounted at Sams club for him. I drove the car 3 miles > home. The next day I was backing out of a tight parking spot. ie like > reverse of a parellel parking. Turning very sharp while backing up and all > of the sudden I heard a loud grinding. I put it in fwd and the car moved > but made noise. I tried reverse and small movement with loud grinding > noise, fwd again and only loud noise and grinding. Now nothing.... no fwd > or rev only this loud grinding noise.!!! > > any clues on the problem and cost of repair I 'm facing? > > THANK YOU!!! Jerry > > |
Re: '89 Accord, No warning signs... now, suddenly, no Fwd or Rev. only loud grinding noise HELP!?
Broken cv-joint or differential? Did you hear any clicking on sharp turns
in the months prior to this? "Voyager" <Voyager_cny@yahoo.com> wrote in message news:yb8Pb.44486$IQ2.17382@twister.nyroc.rr.com... > Any ideas what this might be??? > > He's the story... 1989 Honda Accord 125,000 miles, it's my 18 yr old sons > car. I had 4 snows mounted at Sams club for him. I drove the car 3 miles > home. The next day I was backing out of a tight parking spot. ie like > reverse of a parellel parking. Turning very sharp while backing up and all > of the sudden I heard a loud grinding. I put it in fwd and the car moved > but made noise. I tried reverse and small movement with loud grinding > noise, fwd again and only loud noise and grinding. Now nothing.... no fwd > or rev only this loud grinding noise.!!! > > any clues on the problem and cost of repair I 'm facing? > > THANK YOU!!! Jerry > > |
Re: '89 Accord, No warning signs... now, suddenly, no Fwd or Rev. only loud grinding noise HELP!?
Voyager wrote:
> Any ideas what this might be??? > > He's the story... 1989 Honda Accord 125,000 miles, it's my 18 yr old > sons car. I had 4 snows mounted at Sams club for him. I drove the > car 3 miles home. The next day I was backing out of a tight parking > spot. ie like reverse of a parellel parking. Turning very sharp > while backing up and all of the sudden I heard a loud grinding. I > put it in fwd and the car moved but made noise. I tried reverse and > small movement with loud grinding noise, fwd again and only loud > noise and grinding. Now nothing.... no fwd or rev only this loud > grinding noise.!!! I had this on my 91 Rover 216 GSi (UK). The front drive shaft had popped out of the wheel-hub and therefore the drive was lost. On looking at the problem the next day, it seems the drive shaft had tightened up when 4/5ths home during re-assembly at the repair shop (having changed the CV joint) and the circlip hadn't engaged. Cleaned up the ends and made sure that it went fully home. -- Graham W http://www.gcw.org.uk/ XP1800+ Page added, Graphics Tutorial WIMBORNE http://www.wessex-astro-society.freeserve.co.uk/ Wessex Dorset UK Astro Society's Web pages, Info, Meeting Dates, Sites & Maps Change 'news' to 'sewn' in my Reply address to avoid my spam filter. |
Re: '89 Accord, No warning signs... now, suddenly, no Fwd or Rev. only loud grinding noise HELP!?
Voyager wrote:
> Any ideas what this might be??? > > He's the story... 1989 Honda Accord 125,000 miles, it's my 18 yr old > sons car. I had 4 snows mounted at Sams club for him. I drove the > car 3 miles home. The next day I was backing out of a tight parking > spot. ie like reverse of a parellel parking. Turning very sharp > while backing up and all of the sudden I heard a loud grinding. I > put it in fwd and the car moved but made noise. I tried reverse and > small movement with loud grinding noise, fwd again and only loud > noise and grinding. Now nothing.... no fwd or rev only this loud > grinding noise.!!! I had this on my 91 Rover 216 GSi (UK). The front drive shaft had popped out of the wheel-hub and therefore the drive was lost. On looking at the problem the next day, it seems the drive shaft had tightened up when 4/5ths home during re-assembly at the repair shop (having changed the CV joint) and the circlip hadn't engaged. Cleaned up the ends and made sure that it went fully home. -- Graham W http://www.gcw.org.uk/ XP1800+ Page added, Graphics Tutorial WIMBORNE http://www.wessex-astro-society.freeserve.co.uk/ Wessex Dorset UK Astro Society's Web pages, Info, Meeting Dates, Sites & Maps Change 'news' to 'sewn' in my Reply address to avoid my spam filter. |
Re: '89 Accord, No warning signs... now, suddenly, no Fwd or Rev. only loud grinding noise HELP!?
Voyager wrote:
> Any ideas what this might be??? > > He's the story... 1989 Honda Accord 125,000 miles, it's my 18 yr old > sons car. I had 4 snows mounted at Sams club for him. I drove the > car 3 miles home. The next day I was backing out of a tight parking > spot. ie like reverse of a parellel parking. Turning very sharp > while backing up and all of the sudden I heard a loud grinding. I > put it in fwd and the car moved but made noise. I tried reverse and > small movement with loud grinding noise, fwd again and only loud > noise and grinding. Now nothing.... no fwd or rev only this loud > grinding noise.!!! I had this on my 91 Rover 216 GSi (UK). The front drive shaft had popped out of the wheel-hub and therefore the drive was lost. On looking at the problem the next day, it seems the drive shaft had tightened up when 4/5ths home during re-assembly at the repair shop (having changed the CV joint) and the circlip hadn't engaged. Cleaned up the ends and made sure that it went fully home. -- Graham W http://www.gcw.org.uk/ XP1800+ Page added, Graphics Tutorial WIMBORNE http://www.wessex-astro-society.freeserve.co.uk/ Wessex Dorset UK Astro Society's Web pages, Info, Meeting Dates, Sites & Maps Change 'news' to 'sewn' in my Reply address to avoid my spam filter. |
Re: '89 Accord, No warning signs... now, suddenly, no Fwd or Rev. only loud grinding noise HELP!?
Voyager wrote:
> Any ideas what this might be??? > > He's the story... 1989 Honda Accord 125,000 miles, it's my 18 yr old > sons car. I had 4 snows mounted at Sams club for him. I drove the > car 3 miles home. The next day I was backing out of a tight parking > spot. ie like reverse of a parellel parking. Turning very sharp > while backing up and all of the sudden I heard a loud grinding. I > put it in fwd and the car moved but made noise. I tried reverse and > small movement with loud grinding noise, fwd again and only loud > noise and grinding. Now nothing.... no fwd or rev only this loud > grinding noise.!!! I had this on my 91 Rover 216 GSi (UK). The front drive shaft had popped out of the wheel-hub and therefore the drive was lost. On looking at the problem the next day, it seems the drive shaft had tightened up when 4/5ths home during re-assembly at the repair shop (having changed the CV joint) and the circlip hadn't engaged. Cleaned up the ends and made sure that it went fully home. -- Graham W http://www.gcw.org.uk/ XP1800+ Page added, Graphics Tutorial WIMBORNE http://www.wessex-astro-society.freeserve.co.uk/ Wessex Dorset UK Astro Society's Web pages, Info, Meeting Dates, Sites & Maps Change 'news' to 'sewn' in my Reply address to avoid my spam filter. |
Re: '89 Accord, No warning signs... now, suddenly, no Fwd or Rev. onlyloud grinding noise HELP!?
I'm betting the rear upper ball joint. Relatively easy repair. I once
did one in a food store parking lot, in the dark, at 15 degree temp. bob |
Re: '89 Accord, No warning signs... now, suddenly, no Fwd or Rev. onlyloud grinding noise HELP!?
I'm betting the rear upper ball joint. Relatively easy repair. I once
did one in a food store parking lot, in the dark, at 15 degree temp. bob |
Re: '89 Accord, No warning signs... now, suddenly, no Fwd or Rev. onlyloud grinding noise HELP!?
I'm betting the rear upper ball joint. Relatively easy repair. I once
did one in a food store parking lot, in the dark, at 15 degree temp. bob |
Re: '89 Accord, No warning signs... now, suddenly, no Fwd or Rev. onlyloud grinding noise HELP!?
I'm betting the rear upper ball joint. Relatively easy repair. I once
did one in a food store parking lot, in the dark, at 15 degree temp. bob |
Re: '89 Accord, No warning signs... now, suddenly, no Fwd or Rev. only loud grinding noise HELP!?
dont mind that last post, it must be hard hating oneself all the time - so
he's taking out his aggression in the forum I'd have to say it is probably the differential gears, since it finally broke on a sharp turn as you've mentionned, that would explain the grinding too. The reasons you dont have any CEL codes lit is because the drive shafts and differential do not have sensors that can trigger the odb/odb2 warning codes, at least not to my knowledge. From what it seems, you're faced with a costly repair.. maybe even too costly for an 89 car. Sorry bud. By the way I have some questions on this topic as well, to Curly/Andew/similarly knowledgeable ppl. Before retard_hater blasts me away with his replies, I'd like to know how hard is a front differential replacement? Is it doable by a beginner mechanic? Is it fairly safe to try to do it, or can I easily screw up to a point of no return? We would be 2 ppl to try to do it, both with very limited knowledge of car mechanics. I'm asking because a friend of mine is having similar problems to the ones mentionned in this post. "Voyager" <Voyager_cny@yahoo.com> wrote in message news:yb8Pb.44486$IQ2.17382@twister.nyroc.rr.com... > Any ideas what this might be??? > > He's the story... 1989 Honda Accord 125,000 miles, it's my 18 yr old sons > car. I had 4 snows mounted at Sams club for him. I drove the car 3 miles > home. The next day I was backing out of a tight parking spot. ie like > reverse of a parellel parking. Turning very sharp while backing up and all > of the sudden I heard a loud grinding. I put it in fwd and the car moved > but made noise. I tried reverse and small movement with loud grinding > noise, fwd again and only loud noise and grinding. Now nothing.... no fwd > or rev only this loud grinding noise.!!! > > any clues on the problem and cost of repair I 'm facing? > > THANK YOU!!! Jerry > > |
Re: '89 Accord, No warning signs... now, suddenly, no Fwd or Rev. only loud grinding noise HELP!?
dont mind that last post, it must be hard hating oneself all the time - so
he's taking out his aggression in the forum I'd have to say it is probably the differential gears, since it finally broke on a sharp turn as you've mentionned, that would explain the grinding too. The reasons you dont have any CEL codes lit is because the drive shafts and differential do not have sensors that can trigger the odb/odb2 warning codes, at least not to my knowledge. From what it seems, you're faced with a costly repair.. maybe even too costly for an 89 car. Sorry bud. By the way I have some questions on this topic as well, to Curly/Andew/similarly knowledgeable ppl. Before retard_hater blasts me away with his replies, I'd like to know how hard is a front differential replacement? Is it doable by a beginner mechanic? Is it fairly safe to try to do it, or can I easily screw up to a point of no return? We would be 2 ppl to try to do it, both with very limited knowledge of car mechanics. I'm asking because a friend of mine is having similar problems to the ones mentionned in this post. "Voyager" <Voyager_cny@yahoo.com> wrote in message news:yb8Pb.44486$IQ2.17382@twister.nyroc.rr.com... > Any ideas what this might be??? > > He's the story... 1989 Honda Accord 125,000 miles, it's my 18 yr old sons > car. I had 4 snows mounted at Sams club for him. I drove the car 3 miles > home. The next day I was backing out of a tight parking spot. ie like > reverse of a parellel parking. Turning very sharp while backing up and all > of the sudden I heard a loud grinding. I put it in fwd and the car moved > but made noise. I tried reverse and small movement with loud grinding > noise, fwd again and only loud noise and grinding. Now nothing.... no fwd > or rev only this loud grinding noise.!!! > > any clues on the problem and cost of repair I 'm facing? > > THANK YOU!!! Jerry > > |
Re: '89 Accord, No warning signs... now, suddenly, no Fwd or Rev. only loud grinding noise HELP!?
dont mind that last post, it must be hard hating oneself all the time - so
he's taking out his aggression in the forum I'd have to say it is probably the differential gears, since it finally broke on a sharp turn as you've mentionned, that would explain the grinding too. The reasons you dont have any CEL codes lit is because the drive shafts and differential do not have sensors that can trigger the odb/odb2 warning codes, at least not to my knowledge. From what it seems, you're faced with a costly repair.. maybe even too costly for an 89 car. Sorry bud. By the way I have some questions on this topic as well, to Curly/Andew/similarly knowledgeable ppl. Before retard_hater blasts me away with his replies, I'd like to know how hard is a front differential replacement? Is it doable by a beginner mechanic? Is it fairly safe to try to do it, or can I easily screw up to a point of no return? We would be 2 ppl to try to do it, both with very limited knowledge of car mechanics. I'm asking because a friend of mine is having similar problems to the ones mentionned in this post. "Voyager" <Voyager_cny@yahoo.com> wrote in message news:yb8Pb.44486$IQ2.17382@twister.nyroc.rr.com... > Any ideas what this might be??? > > He's the story... 1989 Honda Accord 125,000 miles, it's my 18 yr old sons > car. I had 4 snows mounted at Sams club for him. I drove the car 3 miles > home. The next day I was backing out of a tight parking spot. ie like > reverse of a parellel parking. Turning very sharp while backing up and all > of the sudden I heard a loud grinding. I put it in fwd and the car moved > but made noise. I tried reverse and small movement with loud grinding > noise, fwd again and only loud noise and grinding. Now nothing.... no fwd > or rev only this loud grinding noise.!!! > > any clues on the problem and cost of repair I 'm facing? > > THANK YOU!!! Jerry > > |
Re: '89 Accord, No warning signs... now, suddenly, no Fwd or Rev. only loud grinding noise HELP!?
dont mind that last post, it must be hard hating oneself all the time - so
he's taking out his aggression in the forum I'd have to say it is probably the differential gears, since it finally broke on a sharp turn as you've mentionned, that would explain the grinding too. The reasons you dont have any CEL codes lit is because the drive shafts and differential do not have sensors that can trigger the odb/odb2 warning codes, at least not to my knowledge. From what it seems, you're faced with a costly repair.. maybe even too costly for an 89 car. Sorry bud. By the way I have some questions on this topic as well, to Curly/Andew/similarly knowledgeable ppl. Before retard_hater blasts me away with his replies, I'd like to know how hard is a front differential replacement? Is it doable by a beginner mechanic? Is it fairly safe to try to do it, or can I easily screw up to a point of no return? We would be 2 ppl to try to do it, both with very limited knowledge of car mechanics. I'm asking because a friend of mine is having similar problems to the ones mentionned in this post. "Voyager" <Voyager_cny@yahoo.com> wrote in message news:yb8Pb.44486$IQ2.17382@twister.nyroc.rr.com... > Any ideas what this might be??? > > He's the story... 1989 Honda Accord 125,000 miles, it's my 18 yr old sons > car. I had 4 snows mounted at Sams club for him. I drove the car 3 miles > home. The next day I was backing out of a tight parking spot. ie like > reverse of a parellel parking. Turning very sharp while backing up and all > of the sudden I heard a loud grinding. I put it in fwd and the car moved > but made noise. I tried reverse and small movement with loud grinding > noise, fwd again and only loud noise and grinding. Now nothing.... no fwd > or rev only this loud grinding noise.!!! > > any clues on the problem and cost of repair I 'm facing? > > THANK YOU!!! Jerry > > |
Re: '89 Accord, No warning signs... now, suddenly, no Fwd or Rev. only loud grinding noise HELP!?
heh, i didnt mean jafir when in my last post, i guess the one i was talking
about was removed "Yuri Nebogatov" <alexneb@videotron.ca> wrote in message news:bzdPb.92921$7X3.1630415@weber.videotron.net.. . > dont mind that last post, it must be hard hating oneself all the time - so > he's taking out his aggression in the forum > > I'd have to say it is probably the differential gears, since it finally > broke on a sharp turn as you've mentionned, that would explain the grinding > too. > The reasons you dont have any CEL codes lit is because the drive shafts and > differential do not have sensors that can trigger the odb/odb2 warning > codes, at least not to my knowledge. From what it seems, you're faced with a > costly repair.. maybe even too costly for an 89 car. > Sorry bud. > > By the way I have some questions on this topic as well, > to Curly/Andew/similarly knowledgeable ppl. > Before retard_hater blasts me away with his replies, I'd like to know how > hard is a front differential replacement? > Is it doable by a beginner mechanic? Is it fairly safe to try to do it, or > can I easily screw up to a point of no return? We would be 2 ppl to try to > do it, both with very limited knowledge of car mechanics. > I'm asking because a friend of mine is having similar problems to the ones > mentionned in this post. > > > > > "Voyager" <Voyager_cny@yahoo.com> wrote in message > news:yb8Pb.44486$IQ2.17382@twister.nyroc.rr.com... > > Any ideas what this might be??? > > > > He's the story... 1989 Honda Accord 125,000 miles, it's my 18 yr old sons > > car. I had 4 snows mounted at Sams club for him. I drove the car 3 miles > > home. The next day I was backing out of a tight parking spot. ie like > > reverse of a parellel parking. Turning very sharp while backing up and > all > > of the sudden I heard a loud grinding. I put it in fwd and the car moved > > but made noise. I tried reverse and small movement with loud grinding > > noise, fwd again and only loud noise and grinding. Now nothing.... no > fwd > > or rev only this loud grinding noise.!!! > > > > any clues on the problem and cost of repair I 'm facing? > > > > THANK YOU!!! Jerry > > > > > > |
Re: '89 Accord, No warning signs... now, suddenly, no Fwd or Rev. only loud grinding noise HELP!?
heh, i didnt mean jafir when in my last post, i guess the one i was talking
about was removed "Yuri Nebogatov" <alexneb@videotron.ca> wrote in message news:bzdPb.92921$7X3.1630415@weber.videotron.net.. . > dont mind that last post, it must be hard hating oneself all the time - so > he's taking out his aggression in the forum > > I'd have to say it is probably the differential gears, since it finally > broke on a sharp turn as you've mentionned, that would explain the grinding > too. > The reasons you dont have any CEL codes lit is because the drive shafts and > differential do not have sensors that can trigger the odb/odb2 warning > codes, at least not to my knowledge. From what it seems, you're faced with a > costly repair.. maybe even too costly for an 89 car. > Sorry bud. > > By the way I have some questions on this topic as well, > to Curly/Andew/similarly knowledgeable ppl. > Before retard_hater blasts me away with his replies, I'd like to know how > hard is a front differential replacement? > Is it doable by a beginner mechanic? Is it fairly safe to try to do it, or > can I easily screw up to a point of no return? We would be 2 ppl to try to > do it, both with very limited knowledge of car mechanics. > I'm asking because a friend of mine is having similar problems to the ones > mentionned in this post. > > > > > "Voyager" <Voyager_cny@yahoo.com> wrote in message > news:yb8Pb.44486$IQ2.17382@twister.nyroc.rr.com... > > Any ideas what this might be??? > > > > He's the story... 1989 Honda Accord 125,000 miles, it's my 18 yr old sons > > car. I had 4 snows mounted at Sams club for him. I drove the car 3 miles > > home. The next day I was backing out of a tight parking spot. ie like > > reverse of a parellel parking. Turning very sharp while backing up and > all > > of the sudden I heard a loud grinding. I put it in fwd and the car moved > > but made noise. I tried reverse and small movement with loud grinding > > noise, fwd again and only loud noise and grinding. Now nothing.... no > fwd > > or rev only this loud grinding noise.!!! > > > > any clues on the problem and cost of repair I 'm facing? > > > > THANK YOU!!! Jerry > > > > > > |
Re: '89 Accord, No warning signs... now, suddenly, no Fwd or Rev. only loud grinding noise HELP!?
heh, i didnt mean jafir when in my last post, i guess the one i was talking
about was removed "Yuri Nebogatov" <alexneb@videotron.ca> wrote in message news:bzdPb.92921$7X3.1630415@weber.videotron.net.. . > dont mind that last post, it must be hard hating oneself all the time - so > he's taking out his aggression in the forum > > I'd have to say it is probably the differential gears, since it finally > broke on a sharp turn as you've mentionned, that would explain the grinding > too. > The reasons you dont have any CEL codes lit is because the drive shafts and > differential do not have sensors that can trigger the odb/odb2 warning > codes, at least not to my knowledge. From what it seems, you're faced with a > costly repair.. maybe even too costly for an 89 car. > Sorry bud. > > By the way I have some questions on this topic as well, > to Curly/Andew/similarly knowledgeable ppl. > Before retard_hater blasts me away with his replies, I'd like to know how > hard is a front differential replacement? > Is it doable by a beginner mechanic? Is it fairly safe to try to do it, or > can I easily screw up to a point of no return? We would be 2 ppl to try to > do it, both with very limited knowledge of car mechanics. > I'm asking because a friend of mine is having similar problems to the ones > mentionned in this post. > > > > > "Voyager" <Voyager_cny@yahoo.com> wrote in message > news:yb8Pb.44486$IQ2.17382@twister.nyroc.rr.com... > > Any ideas what this might be??? > > > > He's the story... 1989 Honda Accord 125,000 miles, it's my 18 yr old sons > > car. I had 4 snows mounted at Sams club for him. I drove the car 3 miles > > home. The next day I was backing out of a tight parking spot. ie like > > reverse of a parellel parking. Turning very sharp while backing up and > all > > of the sudden I heard a loud grinding. I put it in fwd and the car moved > > but made noise. I tried reverse and small movement with loud grinding > > noise, fwd again and only loud noise and grinding. Now nothing.... no > fwd > > or rev only this loud grinding noise.!!! > > > > any clues on the problem and cost of repair I 'm facing? > > > > THANK YOU!!! Jerry > > > > > > |
Re: '89 Accord, No warning signs... now, suddenly, no Fwd or Rev. only loud grinding noise HELP!?
heh, i didnt mean jafir when in my last post, i guess the one i was talking
about was removed "Yuri Nebogatov" <alexneb@videotron.ca> wrote in message news:bzdPb.92921$7X3.1630415@weber.videotron.net.. . > dont mind that last post, it must be hard hating oneself all the time - so > he's taking out his aggression in the forum > > I'd have to say it is probably the differential gears, since it finally > broke on a sharp turn as you've mentionned, that would explain the grinding > too. > The reasons you dont have any CEL codes lit is because the drive shafts and > differential do not have sensors that can trigger the odb/odb2 warning > codes, at least not to my knowledge. From what it seems, you're faced with a > costly repair.. maybe even too costly for an 89 car. > Sorry bud. > > By the way I have some questions on this topic as well, > to Curly/Andew/similarly knowledgeable ppl. > Before retard_hater blasts me away with his replies, I'd like to know how > hard is a front differential replacement? > Is it doable by a beginner mechanic? Is it fairly safe to try to do it, or > can I easily screw up to a point of no return? We would be 2 ppl to try to > do it, both with very limited knowledge of car mechanics. > I'm asking because a friend of mine is having similar problems to the ones > mentionned in this post. > > > > > "Voyager" <Voyager_cny@yahoo.com> wrote in message > news:yb8Pb.44486$IQ2.17382@twister.nyroc.rr.com... > > Any ideas what this might be??? > > > > He's the story... 1989 Honda Accord 125,000 miles, it's my 18 yr old sons > > car. I had 4 snows mounted at Sams club for him. I drove the car 3 miles > > home. The next day I was backing out of a tight parking spot. ie like > > reverse of a parellel parking. Turning very sharp while backing up and > all > > of the sudden I heard a loud grinding. I put it in fwd and the car moved > > but made noise. I tried reverse and small movement with loud grinding > > noise, fwd again and only loud noise and grinding. Now nothing.... no > fwd > > or rev only this loud grinding noise.!!! > > > > any clues on the problem and cost of repair I 'm facing? > > > > THANK YOU!!! Jerry > > > > > > |
Re: '89 Accord, No warning signs... now, suddenly, no Fwd or Rev. only loud grinding noise HELP!?
"Yuri Nebogatov" <alexneb@videotron.ca> wrote in message news:bzdPb.92921$7X3.1630415@weber.videotron.net.. . > dont mind that last post, it must be hard hating oneself all the time - so > he's taking out his aggression in the forum > > I'd have to say it is probably the differential gears, since it finally > broke on a sharp turn as you've mentionned, that would explain the grinding > too. Broken CV joint. Diff gears don't know if the car is turning or not. > The reasons you dont have any CEL codes lit is because the drive shafts and > differential do not have sensors that can trigger the odb/odb2 warning > codes, at least not to my knowledge. From what it seems, you're faced with a > costly repair.. maybe even too costly for an 89 car. $100 for a rebuilt axle. > Sorry bud. > > By the way I have some questions on this topic as well, > to Curly/Andew/similarly knowledgeable ppl. > Before retard_hater blasts me away with his replies, I'd like to know how > hard is a front differential replacement? > Is it doable by a beginner mechanic? Yes. Is it fairly safe to try to do it, or > can I easily screw up to a point of no return? Naw. Just think it through, and get busy. We would be 2 ppl to try to > do it, both with very limited knowledge of car mechanics. > I'm asking because a friend of mine is having similar problems to the ones > mentionned in this post. > > > > > "Voyager" <Voyager_cny@yahoo.com> wrote in message > news:yb8Pb.44486$IQ2.17382@twister.nyroc.rr.com... > > Any ideas what this might be??? > > > > He's the story... 1989 Honda Accord 125,000 miles, it's my 18 yr old sons > > car. I had 4 snows mounted at Sams club for him. I drove the car 3 miles > > home. The next day I was backing out of a tight parking spot. ie like > > reverse of a parellel parking. Turning very sharp while backing up and > all > > of the sudden I heard a loud grinding. I put it in fwd and the car moved > > but made noise. I tried reverse and small movement with loud grinding > > noise, fwd again and only loud noise and grinding. Now nothing.... no > fwd > > or rev only this loud grinding noise.!!! > > > > any clues on the problem and cost of repair I 'm facing? > > > > THANK YOU!!! Jerry > > > > > > |
Re: '89 Accord, No warning signs... now, suddenly, no Fwd or Rev. only loud grinding noise HELP!?
"Yuri Nebogatov" <alexneb@videotron.ca> wrote in message news:bzdPb.92921$7X3.1630415@weber.videotron.net.. . > dont mind that last post, it must be hard hating oneself all the time - so > he's taking out his aggression in the forum > > I'd have to say it is probably the differential gears, since it finally > broke on a sharp turn as you've mentionned, that would explain the grinding > too. Broken CV joint. Diff gears don't know if the car is turning or not. > The reasons you dont have any CEL codes lit is because the drive shafts and > differential do not have sensors that can trigger the odb/odb2 warning > codes, at least not to my knowledge. From what it seems, you're faced with a > costly repair.. maybe even too costly for an 89 car. $100 for a rebuilt axle. > Sorry bud. > > By the way I have some questions on this topic as well, > to Curly/Andew/similarly knowledgeable ppl. > Before retard_hater blasts me away with his replies, I'd like to know how > hard is a front differential replacement? > Is it doable by a beginner mechanic? Yes. Is it fairly safe to try to do it, or > can I easily screw up to a point of no return? Naw. Just think it through, and get busy. We would be 2 ppl to try to > do it, both with very limited knowledge of car mechanics. > I'm asking because a friend of mine is having similar problems to the ones > mentionned in this post. > > > > > "Voyager" <Voyager_cny@yahoo.com> wrote in message > news:yb8Pb.44486$IQ2.17382@twister.nyroc.rr.com... > > Any ideas what this might be??? > > > > He's the story... 1989 Honda Accord 125,000 miles, it's my 18 yr old sons > > car. I had 4 snows mounted at Sams club for him. I drove the car 3 miles > > home. The next day I was backing out of a tight parking spot. ie like > > reverse of a parellel parking. Turning very sharp while backing up and > all > > of the sudden I heard a loud grinding. I put it in fwd and the car moved > > but made noise. I tried reverse and small movement with loud grinding > > noise, fwd again and only loud noise and grinding. Now nothing.... no > fwd > > or rev only this loud grinding noise.!!! > > > > any clues on the problem and cost of repair I 'm facing? > > > > THANK YOU!!! Jerry > > > > > > |
Re: '89 Accord, No warning signs... now, suddenly, no Fwd or Rev. only loud grinding noise HELP!?
"Yuri Nebogatov" <alexneb@videotron.ca> wrote in message news:bzdPb.92921$7X3.1630415@weber.videotron.net.. . > dont mind that last post, it must be hard hating oneself all the time - so > he's taking out his aggression in the forum > > I'd have to say it is probably the differential gears, since it finally > broke on a sharp turn as you've mentionned, that would explain the grinding > too. Broken CV joint. Diff gears don't know if the car is turning or not. > The reasons you dont have any CEL codes lit is because the drive shafts and > differential do not have sensors that can trigger the odb/odb2 warning > codes, at least not to my knowledge. From what it seems, you're faced with a > costly repair.. maybe even too costly for an 89 car. $100 for a rebuilt axle. > Sorry bud. > > By the way I have some questions on this topic as well, > to Curly/Andew/similarly knowledgeable ppl. > Before retard_hater blasts me away with his replies, I'd like to know how > hard is a front differential replacement? > Is it doable by a beginner mechanic? Yes. Is it fairly safe to try to do it, or > can I easily screw up to a point of no return? Naw. Just think it through, and get busy. We would be 2 ppl to try to > do it, both with very limited knowledge of car mechanics. > I'm asking because a friend of mine is having similar problems to the ones > mentionned in this post. > > > > > "Voyager" <Voyager_cny@yahoo.com> wrote in message > news:yb8Pb.44486$IQ2.17382@twister.nyroc.rr.com... > > Any ideas what this might be??? > > > > He's the story... 1989 Honda Accord 125,000 miles, it's my 18 yr old sons > > car. I had 4 snows mounted at Sams club for him. I drove the car 3 miles > > home. The next day I was backing out of a tight parking spot. ie like > > reverse of a parellel parking. Turning very sharp while backing up and > all > > of the sudden I heard a loud grinding. I put it in fwd and the car moved > > but made noise. I tried reverse and small movement with loud grinding > > noise, fwd again and only loud noise and grinding. Now nothing.... no > fwd > > or rev only this loud grinding noise.!!! > > > > any clues on the problem and cost of repair I 'm facing? > > > > THANK YOU!!! Jerry > > > > > > |
Re: '89 Accord, No warning signs... now, suddenly, no Fwd or Rev. only loud grinding noise HELP!?
"Yuri Nebogatov" <alexneb@videotron.ca> wrote in message news:bzdPb.92921$7X3.1630415@weber.videotron.net.. . > dont mind that last post, it must be hard hating oneself all the time - so > he's taking out his aggression in the forum > > I'd have to say it is probably the differential gears, since it finally > broke on a sharp turn as you've mentionned, that would explain the grinding > too. Broken CV joint. Diff gears don't know if the car is turning or not. > The reasons you dont have any CEL codes lit is because the drive shafts and > differential do not have sensors that can trigger the odb/odb2 warning > codes, at least not to my knowledge. From what it seems, you're faced with a > costly repair.. maybe even too costly for an 89 car. $100 for a rebuilt axle. > Sorry bud. > > By the way I have some questions on this topic as well, > to Curly/Andew/similarly knowledgeable ppl. > Before retard_hater blasts me away with his replies, I'd like to know how > hard is a front differential replacement? > Is it doable by a beginner mechanic? Yes. Is it fairly safe to try to do it, or > can I easily screw up to a point of no return? Naw. Just think it through, and get busy. We would be 2 ppl to try to > do it, both with very limited knowledge of car mechanics. > I'm asking because a friend of mine is having similar problems to the ones > mentionned in this post. > > > > > "Voyager" <Voyager_cny@yahoo.com> wrote in message > news:yb8Pb.44486$IQ2.17382@twister.nyroc.rr.com... > > Any ideas what this might be??? > > > > He's the story... 1989 Honda Accord 125,000 miles, it's my 18 yr old sons > > car. I had 4 snows mounted at Sams club for him. I drove the car 3 miles > > home. The next day I was backing out of a tight parking spot. ie like > > reverse of a parellel parking. Turning very sharp while backing up and > all > > of the sudden I heard a loud grinding. I put it in fwd and the car moved > > but made noise. I tried reverse and small movement with loud grinding > > noise, fwd again and only loud noise and grinding. Now nothing.... no > fwd > > or rev only this loud grinding noise.!!! > > > > any clues on the problem and cost of repair I 'm facing? > > > > THANK YOU!!! Jerry > > > > > > |
Re: '89 Accord, No warning signs... now, suddenly, no Fwd or Rev. only loud grinding noise HELP!?
In article <100qafuipfr4314@corp.supernews.com>, Jafir Elkurd
<jafir@nospam.no.spam.hotpop.com> wrote: > Broken cv-joint or differential? Did you hear any clicking on sharp turns > in the months prior to this? > im not so convinced that it is the cv, when one of those goes it is quite abrupt and no grinding involded, just look at both of the drive shafts going to the wheels, if one is hanging down and not connected it broken. it is probally the differential as Jafir said Andrew |
Re: '89 Accord, No warning signs... now, suddenly, no Fwd or Rev. only loud grinding noise HELP!?
In article <100qafuipfr4314@corp.supernews.com>, Jafir Elkurd
<jafir@nospam.no.spam.hotpop.com> wrote: > Broken cv-joint or differential? Did you hear any clicking on sharp turns > in the months prior to this? > im not so convinced that it is the cv, when one of those goes it is quite abrupt and no grinding involded, just look at both of the drive shafts going to the wheels, if one is hanging down and not connected it broken. it is probally the differential as Jafir said Andrew |
Re: '89 Accord, No warning signs... now, suddenly, no Fwd or Rev. only loud grinding noise HELP!?
In article <100qafuipfr4314@corp.supernews.com>, Jafir Elkurd
<jafir@nospam.no.spam.hotpop.com> wrote: > Broken cv-joint or differential? Did you hear any clicking on sharp turns > in the months prior to this? > im not so convinced that it is the cv, when one of those goes it is quite abrupt and no grinding involded, just look at both of the drive shafts going to the wheels, if one is hanging down and not connected it broken. it is probally the differential as Jafir said Andrew |
Re: '89 Accord, No warning signs... now, suddenly, no Fwd or Rev. only loud grinding noise HELP!?
In article <100qafuipfr4314@corp.supernews.com>, Jafir Elkurd
<jafir@nospam.no.spam.hotpop.com> wrote: > Broken cv-joint or differential? Did you hear any clicking on sharp turns > in the months prior to this? > im not so convinced that it is the cv, when one of those goes it is quite abrupt and no grinding involded, just look at both of the drive shafts going to the wheels, if one is hanging down and not connected it broken. it is probally the differential as Jafir said Andrew |
Re: '89 Accord, No warning signs... now, suddenly, no Fwd or Rev. only loud grinding noise HELP!?
>to Curly/Andew/similarly knowledgeable ppl.
>Before retard_hater blasts me away with his replies, I'd like to know how >hard is a front differential replacement? >Is it doable by a beginner mechanic? Is it fairly safe to try to do it, or >can I easily screw up to a point of no return? We would be 2 ppl to try to >do it, both with very limited knowledge of car mechanics. >I'm asking because a friend of mine is having similar problems to the ones >mentionned in this post. Just put the front end on a pair of jackstands and take the wheels off (for visibility). Start the engine and put it into gear. You should be able to differentiate driveshaft and/or hub problems from internal trans problems. Don't bother trying to replace the diff: get a guaranteed used transaxle from a boneyard. Just had a thought (imagine that??!!) It could also be that the clutch disintegrated. I replaced one about 9 months ago in an old Acura where the damper springs all fell out of the clutch disc and made some pretty horrible noises...also, the car barely moved. |
Re: '89 Accord, No warning signs... now, suddenly, no Fwd or Rev. only loud grinding noise HELP!?
>to Curly/Andew/similarly knowledgeable ppl.
>Before retard_hater blasts me away with his replies, I'd like to know how >hard is a front differential replacement? >Is it doable by a beginner mechanic? Is it fairly safe to try to do it, or >can I easily screw up to a point of no return? We would be 2 ppl to try to >do it, both with very limited knowledge of car mechanics. >I'm asking because a friend of mine is having similar problems to the ones >mentionned in this post. Just put the front end on a pair of jackstands and take the wheels off (for visibility). Start the engine and put it into gear. You should be able to differentiate driveshaft and/or hub problems from internal trans problems. Don't bother trying to replace the diff: get a guaranteed used transaxle from a boneyard. Just had a thought (imagine that??!!) It could also be that the clutch disintegrated. I replaced one about 9 months ago in an old Acura where the damper springs all fell out of the clutch disc and made some pretty horrible noises...also, the car barely moved. |
Re: '89 Accord, No warning signs... now, suddenly, no Fwd or Rev. only loud grinding noise HELP!?
>to Curly/Andew/similarly knowledgeable ppl.
>Before retard_hater blasts me away with his replies, I'd like to know how >hard is a front differential replacement? >Is it doable by a beginner mechanic? Is it fairly safe to try to do it, or >can I easily screw up to a point of no return? We would be 2 ppl to try to >do it, both with very limited knowledge of car mechanics. >I'm asking because a friend of mine is having similar problems to the ones >mentionned in this post. Just put the front end on a pair of jackstands and take the wheels off (for visibility). Start the engine and put it into gear. You should be able to differentiate driveshaft and/or hub problems from internal trans problems. Don't bother trying to replace the diff: get a guaranteed used transaxle from a boneyard. Just had a thought (imagine that??!!) It could also be that the clutch disintegrated. I replaced one about 9 months ago in an old Acura where the damper springs all fell out of the clutch disc and made some pretty horrible noises...also, the car barely moved. |
Re: '89 Accord, No warning signs... now, suddenly, no Fwd or Rev. only loud grinding noise HELP!?
>to Curly/Andew/similarly knowledgeable ppl.
>Before retard_hater blasts me away with his replies, I'd like to know how >hard is a front differential replacement? >Is it doable by a beginner mechanic? Is it fairly safe to try to do it, or >can I easily screw up to a point of no return? We would be 2 ppl to try to >do it, both with very limited knowledge of car mechanics. >I'm asking because a friend of mine is having similar problems to the ones >mentionned in this post. Just put the front end on a pair of jackstands and take the wheels off (for visibility). Start the engine and put it into gear. You should be able to differentiate driveshaft and/or hub problems from internal trans problems. Don't bother trying to replace the diff: get a guaranteed used transaxle from a boneyard. Just had a thought (imagine that??!!) It could also be that the clutch disintegrated. I replaced one about 9 months ago in an old Acura where the damper springs all fell out of the clutch disc and made some pretty horrible noises...also, the car barely moved. |
Re: '89 Accord, No warning signs... now, suddenly, no Fwd or Rev. only loud grinding noise HELP!?
Thanks for the help so far, some good ideas.
Sorry I forgot to mention it was an Automatic Trans. Also... I live in Syracuse Ny and the weather sucks for working on a car. COLD and snowing every day.... I have to clean out the garage tomorrow and take a look. "Voyager" <Voyager_cny@yahoo.com> wrote in message news:yb8Pb.44486$IQ2.17382@twister.nyroc.rr.com... > Any ideas what this might be??? > > He's the story... 1989 Honda Accord 125,000 miles, it's my 18 yr old sons > car. I had 4 snows mounted at Sams club for him. I drove the car 3 miles > home. The next day I was backing out of a tight parking spot. ie like > reverse of a parellel parking. Turning very sharp while backing up and all > of the sudden I heard a loud grinding. I put it in fwd and the car move > but made noise. I tried reverse and small movement with loud grinding > noise, fwd again and only loud noise and grinding. Now nothing.... no fwd > or rev only this loud grinding noise.!!! > > any clues on the problem and cost of repair I 'm facing? > > THANK YOU!!! Jerry > > |
Re: '89 Accord, No warning signs... now, suddenly, no Fwd or Rev. only loud grinding noise HELP!?
Thanks for the help so far, some good ideas.
Sorry I forgot to mention it was an Automatic Trans. Also... I live in Syracuse Ny and the weather sucks for working on a car. COLD and snowing every day.... I have to clean out the garage tomorrow and take a look. "Voyager" <Voyager_cny@yahoo.com> wrote in message news:yb8Pb.44486$IQ2.17382@twister.nyroc.rr.com... > Any ideas what this might be??? > > He's the story... 1989 Honda Accord 125,000 miles, it's my 18 yr old sons > car. I had 4 snows mounted at Sams club for him. I drove the car 3 miles > home. The next day I was backing out of a tight parking spot. ie like > reverse of a parellel parking. Turning very sharp while backing up and all > of the sudden I heard a loud grinding. I put it in fwd and the car move > but made noise. I tried reverse and small movement with loud grinding > noise, fwd again and only loud noise and grinding. Now nothing.... no fwd > or rev only this loud grinding noise.!!! > > any clues on the problem and cost of repair I 'm facing? > > THANK YOU!!! Jerry > > |
Re: '89 Accord, No warning signs... now, suddenly, no Fwd or Rev. only loud grinding noise HELP!?
Thanks for the help so far, some good ideas.
Sorry I forgot to mention it was an Automatic Trans. Also... I live in Syracuse Ny and the weather sucks for working on a car. COLD and snowing every day.... I have to clean out the garage tomorrow and take a look. "Voyager" <Voyager_cny@yahoo.com> wrote in message news:yb8Pb.44486$IQ2.17382@twister.nyroc.rr.com... > Any ideas what this might be??? > > He's the story... 1989 Honda Accord 125,000 miles, it's my 18 yr old sons > car. I had 4 snows mounted at Sams club for him. I drove the car 3 miles > home. The next day I was backing out of a tight parking spot. ie like > reverse of a parellel parking. Turning very sharp while backing up and all > of the sudden I heard a loud grinding. I put it in fwd and the car move > but made noise. I tried reverse and small movement with loud grinding > noise, fwd again and only loud noise and grinding. Now nothing.... no fwd > or rev only this loud grinding noise.!!! > > any clues on the problem and cost of repair I 'm facing? > > THANK YOU!!! Jerry > > |
Re: '89 Accord, No warning signs... now, suddenly, no Fwd or Rev. only loud grinding noise HELP!?
Thanks for the help so far, some good ideas.
Sorry I forgot to mention it was an Automatic Trans. Also... I live in Syracuse Ny and the weather sucks for working on a car. COLD and snowing every day.... I have to clean out the garage tomorrow and take a look. "Voyager" <Voyager_cny@yahoo.com> wrote in message news:yb8Pb.44486$IQ2.17382@twister.nyroc.rr.com... > Any ideas what this might be??? > > He's the story... 1989 Honda Accord 125,000 miles, it's my 18 yr old sons > car. I had 4 snows mounted at Sams club for him. I drove the car 3 miles > home. The next day I was backing out of a tight parking spot. ie like > reverse of a parellel parking. Turning very sharp while backing up and all > of the sudden I heard a loud grinding. I put it in fwd and the car move > but made noise. I tried reverse and small movement with loud grinding > noise, fwd again and only loud noise and grinding. Now nothing.... no fwd > or rev only this loud grinding noise.!!! > > any clues on the problem and cost of repair I 'm facing? > > THANK YOU!!! Jerry > > |
Re: '89 Accord, No warning signs... now, suddenly, no Fwd or Rev. only loud grinding noise HELP!?
No, no clicking or any thing odd before this. Also the car does steer
left and right. Jerry "Jafir Elkurd" <jafir@nospam.no.spam.hotpop.com> wrote in message news:100qafuipfr4314@corp.supernews.com... > Broken cv-joint or differential? Did you hear any clicking on sharp turns > in the months prior to this? > > "Voyager" <Voyager_cny@yahoo.com> wrote in message > news:yb8Pb.44486$IQ2.17382@twister.nyroc.rr.com... > > Any ideas what this might be??? > > > > He's the story... 1989 Honda Accord 125,000 miles, it's my 18 yr old sons > > car. I had 4 snows mounted at Sams club for him. I drove the car 3 miles > > home. The next day I was backing out of a tight parking spot. ie like > > reverse of a parellel parking. Turning very sharp while backing up and > all > > of the sudden I heard a loud grinding. I put it in fwd and the car moved > > but made noise. I tried reverse and small movement with loud grinding > > noise, fwd again and only loud noise and grinding. Now nothing.... no > fwd > > or rev only this loud grinding noise.!!! > > > > any clues on the problem and cost of repair I 'm facing? > > > > THANK YOU!!! Jerry > > > > > > |
Re: '89 Accord, No warning signs... now, suddenly, no Fwd or Rev. only loud grinding noise HELP!?
No, no clicking or any thing odd before this. Also the car does steer
left and right. Jerry "Jafir Elkurd" <jafir@nospam.no.spam.hotpop.com> wrote in message news:100qafuipfr4314@corp.supernews.com... > Broken cv-joint or differential? Did you hear any clicking on sharp turns > in the months prior to this? > > "Voyager" <Voyager_cny@yahoo.com> wrote in message > news:yb8Pb.44486$IQ2.17382@twister.nyroc.rr.com... > > Any ideas what this might be??? > > > > He's the story... 1989 Honda Accord 125,000 miles, it's my 18 yr old sons > > car. I had 4 snows mounted at Sams club for him. I drove the car 3 miles > > home. The next day I was backing out of a tight parking spot. ie like > > reverse of a parellel parking. Turning very sharp while backing up and > all > > of the sudden I heard a loud grinding. I put it in fwd and the car moved > > but made noise. I tried reverse and small movement with loud grinding > > noise, fwd again and only loud noise and grinding. Now nothing.... no > fwd > > or rev only this loud grinding noise.!!! > > > > any clues on the problem and cost of repair I 'm facing? > > > > THANK YOU!!! Jerry > > > > > > |
Re: '89 Accord, No warning signs... now, suddenly, no Fwd or Rev. only loud grinding noise HELP!?
No, no clicking or any thing odd before this. Also the car does steer
left and right. Jerry "Jafir Elkurd" <jafir@nospam.no.spam.hotpop.com> wrote in message news:100qafuipfr4314@corp.supernews.com... > Broken cv-joint or differential? Did you hear any clicking on sharp turns > in the months prior to this? > > "Voyager" <Voyager_cny@yahoo.com> wrote in message > news:yb8Pb.44486$IQ2.17382@twister.nyroc.rr.com... > > Any ideas what this might be??? > > > > He's the story... 1989 Honda Accord 125,000 miles, it's my 18 yr old sons > > car. I had 4 snows mounted at Sams club for him. I drove the car 3 miles > > home. The next day I was backing out of a tight parking spot. ie like > > reverse of a parellel parking. Turning very sharp while backing up and > all > > of the sudden I heard a loud grinding. I put it in fwd and the car moved > > but made noise. I tried reverse and small movement with loud grinding > > noise, fwd again and only loud noise and grinding. Now nothing.... no > fwd > > or rev only this loud grinding noise.!!! > > > > any clues on the problem and cost of repair I 'm facing? > > > > THANK YOU!!! Jerry > > > > > > |
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