Jim Yanik

"JimC" <res8rwal@verizon.net> wrote in
news:xbT0i.10535$HR1.10430@trnddc01:

>
> "motsco_" <motsco_@interbaun.com> wrote in message
> news:13440063l7rdc47@corp.supernews.com...
>> Patrick wrote:
>>> In news:Z_b0i.8263$HR1.3032@trnddc01,
>>> JimC <res8rwal@verizon.net> wrote:
>>>
>>>> Okay...the solenoid....and starter cable connections. I should
>>>> have known to check these -- my pappy taught me better than that.
>>>
>>> There's a small copper contact plate in the solenoid/starter
>>> assembly that
>>> gets corroded after some time, and will produce exactly the symptoms
>>> you describe -- intermittent cranking ability.
>>
>> -------------------------------
>>
>> His symptoms aren't really the same. When the copper contact inside
>> the solenoid goes bad, you get the loud 'click' all the time, but
>> sometimes the starter just doesn't go. When the ignition switch isn't
>> firing the solenoid at all, there's no 'click'. He didn't say that it
>> was clicking but not spinning the starter.
>> The third scenario is when the armature / brushes aren't connecting
>> so there's no click because the solenoid has no path to ground, but
>> that one can be dismissed because he said that just torqueing on the
>> key a few times made the starter fire up. If it was the brushes /
>> armature, he would have needed to tap on the starter or slam a door
>> to make the connection work better. Take a look at the thread (and
>> its links) I provided. The schematic really made sense to me once I
>> saw this problem in real life. There's two windings in the solenoid,
>> one to suck it in and another to HOLD it in. Cool.
>>
>> http://www.hondasuv.com/members/showthread.php?t=20252&
>>
>> 'Curly'
>
>
> Gentlemen,
>
> Thank you all again for the very helpful advice. Unfortunately, I
> don't have the car here with me this week (lovely and maddening
> daughter is away for the week) so I can't verify the "loudness" of any
> clicks, but I will definitely check on everything suggested here next
> time she has the car home, and report back with the results.
>
> I do appreciate all your help.
>
> JimC
>
>
>
I don't know if the Accord has the same starter as my Integra,but;


I bought a contact kit for the solenoid on my Integra's Denso starter
at www.nationsautoelectric.com,it cost $30 including shipping,and I am
satisfied with the service.

http://www.nationsautoelectric.com/Nippondenso.html

has pictures of the eroded contacts and instructions on how to replace
them.

Some Honda starters have replaceable solenoids.

--
Jim Yanik
jyanik
at
kua.net

Jim Yanik

"JimC" <res8rwal@verizon.net> wrote in
news:xbT0i.10535$HR1.10430@trnddc01:

>
> "motsco_" <motsco_@interbaun.com> wrote in message
> news:13440063l7rdc47@corp.supernews.com...
>> Patrick wrote:
>>> In news:Z_b0i.8263$HR1.3032@trnddc01,
>>> JimC <res8rwal@verizon.net> wrote:
>>>
>>>> Okay...the solenoid....and starter cable connections. I should
>>>> have known to check these -- my pappy taught me better than that.
>>>
>>> There's a small copper contact plate in the solenoid/starter
>>> assembly that
>>> gets corroded after some time, and will produce exactly the symptoms
>>> you describe -- intermittent cranking ability.
>>
>> -------------------------------
>>
>> His symptoms aren't really the same. When the copper contact inside
>> the solenoid goes bad, you get the loud 'click' all the time, but
>> sometimes the starter just doesn't go. When the ignition switch isn't
>> firing the solenoid at all, there's no 'click'. He didn't say that it
>> was clicking but not spinning the starter.
>> The third scenario is when the armature / brushes aren't connecting
>> so there's no click because the solenoid has no path to ground, but
>> that one can be dismissed because he said that just torqueing on the
>> key a few times made the starter fire up. If it was the brushes /
>> armature, he would have needed to tap on the starter or slam a door
>> to make the connection work better. Take a look at the thread (and
>> its links) I provided. The schematic really made sense to me once I
>> saw this problem in real life. There's two windings in the solenoid,
>> one to suck it in and another to HOLD it in. Cool.
>>
>> http://www.hondasuv.com/members/showthread.php?t=20252&
>>
>> 'Curly'
>
>
> Gentlemen,
>
> Thank you all again for the very helpful advice. Unfortunately, I
> don't have the car here with me this week (lovely and maddening
> daughter is away for the week) so I can't verify the "loudness" of any
> clicks, but I will definitely check on everything suggested here next
> time she has the car home, and report back with the results.
>
> I do appreciate all your help.
>
> JimC
>
>
>
I don't know if the Accord has the same starter as my Integra,but;


I bought a contact kit for the solenoid on my Integra's Denso starter
at www.nationsautoelectric.com,it cost $30 including shipping,and I am
satisfied with the service.

http://www.nationsautoelectric.com/Nippondenso.html

has pictures of the eroded contacts and instructions on how to replace
them.

Some Honda starters have replaceable solenoids.

--
Jim Yanik
jyanik
at
kua.net