93 Civic Batter Light and Speedometer
 

Hi,

I have a 93 Civic - new to me.

The battery light is on and the speedometer and Tach stop working once
in a while.

Any suggestions on what I should check out?

Jim

Re: 93 Civic Batter Light and Speedometer
 

"Jim" <jferree@gmail.com> wrote in message
news:1152576015.510029.56840@h48g2000cwc.googlegro ups.com...
> Hi,
>
> I have a 93 Civic - new to me.
>
> The battery light is on and the speedometer and Tach stop working once
> in a while.
>
> Any suggestions on what I should check out?
>
> Jim
>
Check out the alternator first. The battery light is telling you the
alternator is probably not keeping your battery charged. Most places that
sell alternators will do a quick test in the car.

Mike

Re: 93 Civic Batter Light and Speedometer
 

"Jim" <jferree@gmail.com> wrote in message
news:1152576015.510029.56840@h48g2000cwc.googlegro ups.com...
> Hi,
>
> I have a 93 Civic - new to me.
>
> The battery light is on and the speedometer and Tach stop working once
> in a while.
>
> Any suggestions on what I should check out?
>
> Jim
>
Check out the alternator first. The battery light is telling you the
alternator is probably not keeping your battery charged. Most places that
sell alternators will do a quick test in the car.

Mike

Re: 93 Civic Batter Light and Speedometer
 

"Jim" <jferree@gmail.com> wrote in message
news:1152576015.510029.56840@h48g2000cwc.googlegro ups.com...
> Hi,
>
> I have a 93 Civic - new to me.
>
> The battery light is on and the speedometer and Tach stop working once
> in a while.
>
> Any suggestions on what I should check out?
>
> Jim
>
Check out the alternator first. The battery light is telling you the
alternator is probably not keeping your battery charged. Most places that
sell alternators will do a quick test in the car.

Mike

Re: 93 Civic Batter Light and Speedometer
 

"Jim" <jferree@gmail.com> wrote in message
news:1152576015.510029.56840@h48g2000cwc.googlegro ups.com...
> Hi,
>
> I have a 93 Civic - new to me.
>
> The battery light is on and the speedometer and Tach stop working once
> in a while.
>
> Any suggestions on what I should check out?
>
> Jim
>
Check out the alternator first. The battery light is telling you the
alternator is probably not keeping your battery charged. Most places that
sell alternators will do a quick test in the car.

Mike

Re: 93 Civic Batter Light and Speedometer
 

The warning lamp with the battery icon in it is actually the
"malfunction, charging system" light.

See about the middle of
http://home.earthlink.net/~honda.lioness/id13.html for some
quick voltage checks you can do that might tell you more.

Congrats on your new Civic. How many miles? Do you have any
maintenance records on it?

"Jim" <jferree@gmail.com> wrote
> Hi,
>
> I have a 93 Civic - new to me.
>
> The battery light is on and the speedometer and Tach stop
> working once
> in a while.
>
> Any suggestions on what I should check out?
>
> Jim
>

Re: 93 Civic Batter Light and Speedometer
 

The warning lamp with the battery icon in it is actually the
"malfunction, charging system" light.

See about the middle of
http://home.earthlink.net/~honda.lioness/id13.html for some
quick voltage checks you can do that might tell you more.

Congrats on your new Civic. How many miles? Do you have any
maintenance records on it?

"Jim" <jferree@gmail.com> wrote
> Hi,
>
> I have a 93 Civic - new to me.
>
> The battery light is on and the speedometer and Tach stop
> working once
> in a while.
>
> Any suggestions on what I should check out?
>
> Jim
>

Re: 93 Civic Batter Light and Speedometer
 

The warning lamp with the battery icon in it is actually the
"malfunction, charging system" light.

See about the middle of
http://home.earthlink.net/~honda.lioness/id13.html for some
quick voltage checks you can do that might tell you more.

Congrats on your new Civic. How many miles? Do you have any
maintenance records on it?

"Jim" <jferree@gmail.com> wrote
> Hi,
>
> I have a 93 Civic - new to me.
>
> The battery light is on and the speedometer and Tach stop
> working once
> in a while.
>
> Any suggestions on what I should check out?
>
> Jim
>

Re: 93 Civic Batter Light and Speedometer
 

The warning lamp with the battery icon in it is actually the
"malfunction, charging system" light.

See about the middle of
http://home.earthlink.net/~honda.lioness/id13.html for some
quick voltage checks you can do that might tell you more.

Congrats on your new Civic. How many miles? Do you have any
maintenance records on it?

"Jim" <jferree@gmail.com> wrote
> Hi,
>
> I have a 93 Civic - new to me.
>
> The battery light is on and the speedometer and Tach stop
> working once
> in a while.
>
> Any suggestions on what I should check out?
>
> Jim
>

Re: 93 Civic Batter Light and Speedometer
 

Thanks for you help everyone.

Definitely need a new alternator. Please advise on which ones are
good, how to install and which repair manual to buy.

Mileage is 133K, no maintenance records. I will see if I can contact
the previous owner to get his feedback on the car.

Jim


Elle wrote:
> The warning lamp with the battery icon in it is actually the
> "malfunction, charging system" light.
>
> See about the middle of
> http://home.earthlink.net/~honda.lioness/id13.html for some
> quick voltage checks you can do that might tell you more.
>
> Congrats on your new Civic. How many miles? Do you have any
> maintenance records on it?
>
> "Jim" <jferree@gmail.com> wrote
> > Hi,
> >
> > I have a 93 Civic - new to me.
> >
> > The battery light is on and the speedometer and Tach stop
> > working once
> > in a while.
> >
> > Any suggestions on what I should check out?
> >
> > Jim
> >

Re: 93 Civic Batter Light and Speedometer
 

Thanks for you help everyone.

Definitely need a new alternator. Please advise on which ones are
good, how to install and which repair manual to buy.

Mileage is 133K, no maintenance records. I will see if I can contact
the previous owner to get his feedback on the car.

Jim


Elle wrote:
> The warning lamp with the battery icon in it is actually the
> "malfunction, charging system" light.
>
> See about the middle of
> http://home.earthlink.net/~honda.lioness/id13.html for some
> quick voltage checks you can do that might tell you more.
>
> Congrats on your new Civic. How many miles? Do you have any
> maintenance records on it?
>
> "Jim" <jferree@gmail.com> wrote
> > Hi,
> >
> > I have a 93 Civic - new to me.
> >
> > The battery light is on and the speedometer and Tach stop
> > working once
> > in a while.
> >
> > Any suggestions on what I should check out?
> >
> > Jim
> >

Re: 93 Civic Batter Light and Speedometer
 

Thanks for you help everyone.

Definitely need a new alternator. Please advise on which ones are
good, how to install and which repair manual to buy.

Mileage is 133K, no maintenance records. I will see if I can contact
the previous owner to get his feedback on the car.

Jim


Elle wrote:
> The warning lamp with the battery icon in it is actually the
> "malfunction, charging system" light.
>
> See about the middle of
> http://home.earthlink.net/~honda.lioness/id13.html for some
> quick voltage checks you can do that might tell you more.
>
> Congrats on your new Civic. How many miles? Do you have any
> maintenance records on it?
>
> "Jim" <jferree@gmail.com> wrote
> > Hi,
> >
> > I have a 93 Civic - new to me.
> >
> > The battery light is on and the speedometer and Tach stop
> > working once
> > in a while.
> >
> > Any suggestions on what I should check out?
> >
> > Jim
> >

Re: 93 Civic Batter Light and Speedometer
 

Thanks for you help everyone.

Definitely need a new alternator. Please advise on which ones are
good, how to install and which repair manual to buy.

Mileage is 133K, no maintenance records. I will see if I can contact
the previous owner to get his feedback on the car.

Jim


Elle wrote:
> The warning lamp with the battery icon in it is actually the
> "malfunction, charging system" light.
>
> See about the middle of
> http://home.earthlink.net/~honda.lioness/id13.html for some
> quick voltage checks you can do that might tell you more.
>
> Congrats on your new Civic. How many miles? Do you have any
> maintenance records on it?
>
> "Jim" <jferree@gmail.com> wrote
> > Hi,
> >
> > I have a 93 Civic - new to me.
> >
> > The battery light is on and the speedometer and Tach stop
> > working once
> > in a while.
> >
> > Any suggestions on what I should check out?
> >
> > Jim
> >

Re: 93 Civic Batter Light and Speedometer
 

Elle wrote:
>
> The warning lamp with the battery icon in it is actually the
> "malfunction, charging system" light.
>
> See about the middle of
> http://home.earthlink.net/~honda.lioness/id13.html for some
> quick voltage checks you can do that might tell you more.

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I notice the troubleshooting part mentions 'warmed up', but doesn't seem
to stress this important fact I came across the other day:

"a no-charging system may not be the alternator. Honda has been using an
ELD (electrical load device) relay for the last 10 years or so. Honda
uses PCM strategy to control the voltage regulator. We have learned to
let the engine run a few minutes before checking alternator output (the
PCM lets the initial start up to stabilize before turning the alternator
on, reducing the load on the engine). Honda uses the ELD relay to
control alternator output -- no load, no work at idle."

I found it when I was searching 'honda ELD' with google.

The OP may need brushes only, not a whole alternator, also.

'Curly'

Re: 93 Civic Batter Light and Speedometer
 

Elle wrote:
>
> The warning lamp with the battery icon in it is actually the
> "malfunction, charging system" light.
>
> See about the middle of
> http://home.earthlink.net/~honda.lioness/id13.html for some
> quick voltage checks you can do that might tell you more.

-----------------------------------------

I notice the troubleshooting part mentions 'warmed up', but doesn't seem
to stress this important fact I came across the other day:

"a no-charging system may not be the alternator. Honda has been using an
ELD (electrical load device) relay for the last 10 years or so. Honda
uses PCM strategy to control the voltage regulator. We have learned to
let the engine run a few minutes before checking alternator output (the
PCM lets the initial start up to stabilize before turning the alternator
on, reducing the load on the engine). Honda uses the ELD relay to
control alternator output -- no load, no work at idle."

I found it when I was searching 'honda ELD' with google.

The OP may need brushes only, not a whole alternator, also.

'Curly'