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ucmbt@yahoo.ca 05-14-2006 04:39 PM

95 Civic LX Intake Air Temperature Sensor
 
Hi...

Can any one please tell me whether a bad Intake Air Temperature Sensor
(IAT) or a bad TW (Coolant Temperature sensor, or Water Temperature
Sensor) will cause the engine not to fire up?

I've read that these two sensors can affect injector pulse width? It
seems that I'm getting too much fuel into the combustion chambers, thus
after a few cranks of the engine, the combustion chambers are flooded
(spark plugs soaking wet with fuel) and the engine won't start. The
spark plugs do produce strong sparks. So I'm quite sure it's not an
ignition problem. Iit seems like more fuel than necessary is injected
- that's why I'm wondering whether a bad IAT or TW can cause this
problem.

Thanks.


TeGGeR® 05-14-2006 06:23 PM

Re: 95 Civic LX Intake Air Temperature Sensor
 
ucmbt@yahoo.ca wrote in
news:1147639178.082028.98100@g10g2000cwb.googlegro ups.com:

> Hi...
>
> Can any one please tell me whether a bad Intake Air Temperature Sensor
> (IAT) or a bad TW (Coolant Temperature sensor, or Water Temperature
> Sensor) will cause the engine not to fire up?




They will have no effect on engine startup.


>
> I've read that these two sensors can affect injector pulse width? It
> seems that I'm getting too much fuel into the combustion chambers, thus
> after a few cranks of the engine, the combustion chambers are flooded
> (spark plugs soaking wet with fuel) and the engine won't start. The
> spark plugs do produce strong sparks. So I'm quite sure it's not an
> ignition problem. Iit seems like more fuel than necessary is injected
> - that's why I'm wondering whether a bad IAT or TW can cause this
> problem.
>



Is the spark properly timed?


--
TeGGeR®

The Unofficial Honda/Acura FAQ
www.tegger.com/hondafaq/

TeGGeR® 05-14-2006 06:23 PM

Re: 95 Civic LX Intake Air Temperature Sensor
 
ucmbt@yahoo.ca wrote in
news:1147639178.082028.98100@g10g2000cwb.googlegro ups.com:

> Hi...
>
> Can any one please tell me whether a bad Intake Air Temperature Sensor
> (IAT) or a bad TW (Coolant Temperature sensor, or Water Temperature
> Sensor) will cause the engine not to fire up?




They will have no effect on engine startup.


>
> I've read that these two sensors can affect injector pulse width? It
> seems that I'm getting too much fuel into the combustion chambers, thus
> after a few cranks of the engine, the combustion chambers are flooded
> (spark plugs soaking wet with fuel) and the engine won't start. The
> spark plugs do produce strong sparks. So I'm quite sure it's not an
> ignition problem. Iit seems like more fuel than necessary is injected
> - that's why I'm wondering whether a bad IAT or TW can cause this
> problem.
>



Is the spark properly timed?


--
TeGGeR®

The Unofficial Honda/Acura FAQ
www.tegger.com/hondafaq/

TeGGeR® 05-14-2006 06:23 PM

Re: 95 Civic LX Intake Air Temperature Sensor
 
ucmbt@yahoo.ca wrote in
news:1147639178.082028.98100@g10g2000cwb.googlegro ups.com:

> Hi...
>
> Can any one please tell me whether a bad Intake Air Temperature Sensor
> (IAT) or a bad TW (Coolant Temperature sensor, or Water Temperature
> Sensor) will cause the engine not to fire up?




They will have no effect on engine startup.


>
> I've read that these two sensors can affect injector pulse width? It
> seems that I'm getting too much fuel into the combustion chambers, thus
> after a few cranks of the engine, the combustion chambers are flooded
> (spark plugs soaking wet with fuel) and the engine won't start. The
> spark plugs do produce strong sparks. So I'm quite sure it's not an
> ignition problem. Iit seems like more fuel than necessary is injected
> - that's why I'm wondering whether a bad IAT or TW can cause this
> problem.
>



Is the spark properly timed?


--
TeGGeR®

The Unofficial Honda/Acura FAQ
www.tegger.com/hondafaq/

Mike Doyle 05-14-2006 07:35 PM

OxygenSensor.net
 
Has anyone bought an Oxygen sensor from this company?
They have the best price I've found for a direct replacement
on my 94 VX.


Mike Doyle 05-14-2006 07:35 PM

OxygenSensor.net
 
Has anyone bought an Oxygen sensor from this company?
They have the best price I've found for a direct replacement
on my 94 VX.


Mike Doyle 05-14-2006 07:35 PM

OxygenSensor.net
 
Has anyone bought an Oxygen sensor from this company?
They have the best price I've found for a direct replacement
on my 94 VX.


Mike Doyle 05-14-2006 07:45 PM

Carry along tool kit
 
I'm trying to put together a small tool kit. Something to fit in
the area above the spare. I'd like to have enough to cover any
quick fix situations.
I've come up with : Combo screwdriver, my small ratchet &
a few sockets (which ones most usable for a Civic?), medium
Channellocks.

So, what do the rest of you carry?

Mike Doyle 05-14-2006 07:45 PM

Carry along tool kit
 
I'm trying to put together a small tool kit. Something to fit in
the area above the spare. I'd like to have enough to cover any
quick fix situations.
I've come up with : Combo screwdriver, my small ratchet &
a few sockets (which ones most usable for a Civic?), medium
Channellocks.

So, what do the rest of you carry?

Mike Doyle 05-14-2006 07:45 PM

Carry along tool kit
 
I'm trying to put together a small tool kit. Something to fit in
the area above the spare. I'd like to have enough to cover any
quick fix situations.
I've come up with : Combo screwdriver, my small ratchet &
a few sockets (which ones most usable for a Civic?), medium
Channellocks.

So, what do the rest of you carry?

Elle 05-14-2006 10:03 PM

Re: Carry along tool kit
 
"Mike Doyle" <sigifrith@frontiernet.net> wrote
> I'm trying to put together a small tool kit. Something to
> fit in
> the area above the spare. I'd like to have enough to
> cover any
> quick fix situations.
> I've come up with : Combo screwdriver, my small ratchet &
> a few sockets (which ones most usable for a Civic?),


8 mm, 10 mm, 12 mm, 14 mm, 17 mm.

If you must eliminate two, eliminate the first and last.

> medium
> Channellocks.


Add a medium-sized crescent wrench and small hammer.



Elle 05-14-2006 10:03 PM

Re: Carry along tool kit
 
"Mike Doyle" <sigifrith@frontiernet.net> wrote
> I'm trying to put together a small tool kit. Something to
> fit in
> the area above the spare. I'd like to have enough to
> cover any
> quick fix situations.
> I've come up with : Combo screwdriver, my small ratchet &
> a few sockets (which ones most usable for a Civic?),


8 mm, 10 mm, 12 mm, 14 mm, 17 mm.

If you must eliminate two, eliminate the first and last.

> medium
> Channellocks.


Add a medium-sized crescent wrench and small hammer.



Elle 05-14-2006 10:03 PM

Re: Carry along tool kit
 
"Mike Doyle" <sigifrith@frontiernet.net> wrote
> I'm trying to put together a small tool kit. Something to
> fit in
> the area above the spare. I'd like to have enough to
> cover any
> quick fix situations.
> I've come up with : Combo screwdriver, my small ratchet &
> a few sockets (which ones most usable for a Civic?),


8 mm, 10 mm, 12 mm, 14 mm, 17 mm.

If you must eliminate two, eliminate the first and last.

> medium
> Channellocks.


Add a medium-sized crescent wrench and small hammer.



DAB 05-14-2006 10:09 PM

Re: Carry along tool kit
 
Mike Doyle wrote:
> I'm trying to put together a small tool kit. Something to fit in
> the area above the spare. I'd like to have enough to cover any
> quick fix situations.
> I've come up with : Combo screwdriver, my small ratchet &
> a few sockets (which ones most usable for a Civic?), medium
> Channellocks.
>
> So, what do the rest of you carry?


My AAA Card ;-)



DAB 05-14-2006 10:09 PM

Re: Carry along tool kit
 
Mike Doyle wrote:
> I'm trying to put together a small tool kit. Something to fit in
> the area above the spare. I'd like to have enough to cover any
> quick fix situations.
> I've come up with : Combo screwdriver, my small ratchet &
> a few sockets (which ones most usable for a Civic?), medium
> Channellocks.
>
> So, what do the rest of you carry?


My AAA Card ;-)



DAB 05-14-2006 10:09 PM

Re: Carry along tool kit
 
Mike Doyle wrote:
> I'm trying to put together a small tool kit. Something to fit in
> the area above the spare. I'd like to have enough to cover any
> quick fix situations.
> I've come up with : Combo screwdriver, my small ratchet &
> a few sockets (which ones most usable for a Civic?), medium
> Channellocks.
>
> So, what do the rest of you carry?


My AAA Card ;-)



Elle 05-14-2006 10:11 PM

Re: OxygenSensor.net
 
I see the NTK oxygen sensor for a 94 Civic VX for $80 at
this site. But I don't think that's a genuine Honda sensor,
and so it's a real roll of the dice.

Try https://www.automedicsupply.com for OEM sensors at good
prices. I have used it for an OEM O2 sensor for my 91 Civic
a couple of years ago. Good service. No problems with the
sensor.

That VX a California compliant one?


"Mike Doyle" <sigifrith@frontiernet.net> wrote
> Has anyone bought an Oxygen sensor from this company?
> They have the best price I've found for a direct
> replacement
> on my 94 VX.
>




Elle 05-14-2006 10:11 PM

Re: OxygenSensor.net
 
I see the NTK oxygen sensor for a 94 Civic VX for $80 at
this site. But I don't think that's a genuine Honda sensor,
and so it's a real roll of the dice.

Try https://www.automedicsupply.com for OEM sensors at good
prices. I have used it for an OEM O2 sensor for my 91 Civic
a couple of years ago. Good service. No problems with the
sensor.

That VX a California compliant one?


"Mike Doyle" <sigifrith@frontiernet.net> wrote
> Has anyone bought an Oxygen sensor from this company?
> They have the best price I've found for a direct
> replacement
> on my 94 VX.
>




Elle 05-14-2006 10:11 PM

Re: OxygenSensor.net
 
I see the NTK oxygen sensor for a 94 Civic VX for $80 at
this site. But I don't think that's a genuine Honda sensor,
and so it's a real roll of the dice.

Try https://www.automedicsupply.com for OEM sensors at good
prices. I have used it for an OEM O2 sensor for my 91 Civic
a couple of years ago. Good service. No problems with the
sensor.

That VX a California compliant one?


"Mike Doyle" <sigifrith@frontiernet.net> wrote
> Has anyone bought an Oxygen sensor from this company?
> They have the best price I've found for a direct
> replacement
> on my 94 VX.
>




'Curly Q. Links' 05-14-2006 10:22 PM

Re: Carry along tool kit
 
Mike Doyle wrote:
>
> I'm trying to put together a small tool kit. Something to fit in
> the area above the spare. I'd like to have enough to cover any
> quick fix situations.
> I've come up with : Combo screwdriver, my small ratchet &
> a few sockets (which ones most usable for a Civic?), medium
> Channellocks.
>
> So, what do the rest of you carry?


-------------------------------------

plus:
Cotton 'gardening' gloves
Forehead flashlight
Needle nose pliers
Black garbage bag
3' of haywire
electrical tape
12 volt 'probe'

'Curly'

'Curly Q. Links' 05-14-2006 10:22 PM

Re: Carry along tool kit
 
Mike Doyle wrote:
>
> I'm trying to put together a small tool kit. Something to fit in
> the area above the spare. I'd like to have enough to cover any
> quick fix situations.
> I've come up with : Combo screwdriver, my small ratchet &
> a few sockets (which ones most usable for a Civic?), medium
> Channellocks.
>
> So, what do the rest of you carry?


-------------------------------------

plus:
Cotton 'gardening' gloves
Forehead flashlight
Needle nose pliers
Black garbage bag
3' of haywire
electrical tape
12 volt 'probe'

'Curly'

'Curly Q. Links' 05-14-2006 10:22 PM

Re: Carry along tool kit
 
Mike Doyle wrote:
>
> I'm trying to put together a small tool kit. Something to fit in
> the area above the spare. I'd like to have enough to cover any
> quick fix situations.
> I've come up with : Combo screwdriver, my small ratchet &
> a few sockets (which ones most usable for a Civic?), medium
> Channellocks.
>
> So, what do the rest of you carry?


-------------------------------------

plus:
Cotton 'gardening' gloves
Forehead flashlight
Needle nose pliers
Black garbage bag
3' of haywire
electrical tape
12 volt 'probe'

'Curly'

Mike Doyle 05-14-2006 10:45 PM

Re: OxygenSensor.net
 
Elle wrote:
> I see the NTK oxygen sensor for a 94 Civic VX for $80 at
> this site. But I don't think that's a genuine Honda sensor,
> and so it's a real roll of the dice.
>
> Try https://www.automedicsupply.com for OEM sensors at good
> prices. I have used it for an OEM O2 sensor for my 91 Civic
> a couple of years ago. Good service. No problems with the
> sensor.
>
> That VX a California compliant one?



No, a Kalifornistan sensor is much cheaper!! My red jewel is a
Canadian built 48 stater.

This is the one I'm looking at. It has the correct Honda part number.
Most sites want $300 + for it.
www.oxygensensor.net/parts/o2parts/L1H1.html


Mike Doyle 05-14-2006 10:45 PM

Re: OxygenSensor.net
 
Elle wrote:
> I see the NTK oxygen sensor for a 94 Civic VX for $80 at
> this site. But I don't think that's a genuine Honda sensor,
> and so it's a real roll of the dice.
>
> Try https://www.automedicsupply.com for OEM sensors at good
> prices. I have used it for an OEM O2 sensor for my 91 Civic
> a couple of years ago. Good service. No problems with the
> sensor.
>
> That VX a California compliant one?



No, a Kalifornistan sensor is much cheaper!! My red jewel is a
Canadian built 48 stater.

This is the one I'm looking at. It has the correct Honda part number.
Most sites want $300 + for it.
www.oxygensensor.net/parts/o2parts/L1H1.html


Mike Doyle 05-14-2006 10:45 PM

Re: OxygenSensor.net
 
Elle wrote:
> I see the NTK oxygen sensor for a 94 Civic VX for $80 at
> this site. But I don't think that's a genuine Honda sensor,
> and so it's a real roll of the dice.
>
> Try https://www.automedicsupply.com for OEM sensors at good
> prices. I have used it for an OEM O2 sensor for my 91 Civic
> a couple of years ago. Good service. No problems with the
> sensor.
>
> That VX a California compliant one?



No, a Kalifornistan sensor is much cheaper!! My red jewel is a
Canadian built 48 stater.

This is the one I'm looking at. It has the correct Honda part number.
Most sites want $300 + for it.
www.oxygensensor.net/parts/o2parts/L1H1.html


ucmbt@yahoo.ca 05-15-2006 02:24 AM

Re: 95 Civic LX Intake Air Temperature Sensor
 
I can't check the ignition timing, since the engine doesn't run. Is
there a way to check ignition timing without the engine running?
Thanks.


ucmbt@yahoo.ca 05-15-2006 02:24 AM

Re: 95 Civic LX Intake Air Temperature Sensor
 
I can't check the ignition timing, since the engine doesn't run. Is
there a way to check ignition timing without the engine running?
Thanks.


ucmbt@yahoo.ca 05-15-2006 02:24 AM

Re: 95 Civic LX Intake Air Temperature Sensor
 
I can't check the ignition timing, since the engine doesn't run. Is
there a way to check ignition timing without the engine running?
Thanks.


TeGGeR® 05-15-2006 07:29 AM

Re: 95 Civic LX Intake Air Temperature Sensor
 
ucmbt@yahoo.ca wrote in
news:1147674296.821198.73880@v46g2000cwv.googlegro ups.com:

> I can't check the ignition timing, since the engine doesn't run. Is
> there a way to check ignition timing without the engine running?
> Thanks.
>
>



Yeah, have someone crank while you test. Same as if it was running, but
cranking instead. Timing ought to be close to the specified 16deg BTDC.

Another method: Turn engine by hand to TDC compression (#1 valves closed),
then remove distributor cap and see if rotor arm is pointing at the #1
terminal on the cap. That will give you an idea whether the timing's
horribly off or not.

Are you sure your timing belt hasn't slipped?

--
TeGGeR®

The Unofficial Honda/Acura FAQ
www.tegger.com/hondafaq/

TeGGeR® 05-15-2006 07:29 AM

Re: 95 Civic LX Intake Air Temperature Sensor
 
ucmbt@yahoo.ca wrote in
news:1147674296.821198.73880@v46g2000cwv.googlegro ups.com:

> I can't check the ignition timing, since the engine doesn't run. Is
> there a way to check ignition timing without the engine running?
> Thanks.
>
>



Yeah, have someone crank while you test. Same as if it was running, but
cranking instead. Timing ought to be close to the specified 16deg BTDC.

Another method: Turn engine by hand to TDC compression (#1 valves closed),
then remove distributor cap and see if rotor arm is pointing at the #1
terminal on the cap. That will give you an idea whether the timing's
horribly off or not.

Are you sure your timing belt hasn't slipped?

--
TeGGeR®

The Unofficial Honda/Acura FAQ
www.tegger.com/hondafaq/

TeGGeR® 05-15-2006 07:29 AM

Re: 95 Civic LX Intake Air Temperature Sensor
 
ucmbt@yahoo.ca wrote in
news:1147674296.821198.73880@v46g2000cwv.googlegro ups.com:

> I can't check the ignition timing, since the engine doesn't run. Is
> there a way to check ignition timing without the engine running?
> Thanks.
>
>



Yeah, have someone crank while you test. Same as if it was running, but
cranking instead. Timing ought to be close to the specified 16deg BTDC.

Another method: Turn engine by hand to TDC compression (#1 valves closed),
then remove distributor cap and see if rotor arm is pointing at the #1
terminal on the cap. That will give you an idea whether the timing's
horribly off or not.

Are you sure your timing belt hasn't slipped?

--
TeGGeR®

The Unofficial Honda/Acura FAQ
www.tegger.com/hondafaq/

Howard Lester 05-15-2006 09:29 AM

Re: Carry along tool kit
 
add:

wire cutters and wire strippers.





Howard Lester 05-15-2006 09:29 AM

Re: Carry along tool kit
 
add:

wire cutters and wire strippers.





Howard Lester 05-15-2006 09:29 AM

Re: Carry along tool kit
 
add:

wire cutters and wire strippers.





Jim Yanik 05-15-2006 09:37 AM

Re: OxygenSensor.net
 
Mike Doyle <sigifrith@frontiernet.net> wrote in
news:f9P9g.881$oa1.112@news02.roc.ny:

> Has anyone bought an Oxygen sensor from this company?
> They have the best price I've found for a direct replacement
> on my 94 VX.
>
>


try autohausaz.com I bought a Walker O2S for 78.00 USD with free shipping.
Ordered Friday,received Monday,UPS Ground.

--
Jim Yanik
jyanik
at
kua.net

Jim Yanik 05-15-2006 09:37 AM

Re: OxygenSensor.net
 
Mike Doyle <sigifrith@frontiernet.net> wrote in
news:f9P9g.881$oa1.112@news02.roc.ny:

> Has anyone bought an Oxygen sensor from this company?
> They have the best price I've found for a direct replacement
> on my 94 VX.
>
>


try autohausaz.com I bought a Walker O2S for 78.00 USD with free shipping.
Ordered Friday,received Monday,UPS Ground.

--
Jim Yanik
jyanik
at
kua.net

Jim Yanik 05-15-2006 09:37 AM

Re: OxygenSensor.net
 
Mike Doyle <sigifrith@frontiernet.net> wrote in
news:f9P9g.881$oa1.112@news02.roc.ny:

> Has anyone bought an Oxygen sensor from this company?
> They have the best price I've found for a direct replacement
> on my 94 VX.
>
>


try autohausaz.com I bought a Walker O2S for 78.00 USD with free shipping.
Ordered Friday,received Monday,UPS Ground.

--
Jim Yanik
jyanik
at
kua.net

Jim Yanik 05-15-2006 09:40 AM

Re: Carry along tool kit
 
Mike Doyle <sigifrith@frontiernet.net> wrote in
news:8iP9g.883$oa1.348@news02.roc.ny:

> I'm trying to put together a small tool kit. Something to fit in
> the area above the spare. I'd like to have enough to cover any
> quick fix situations.
> I've come up with : Combo screwdriver, my small ratchet &
> a few sockets (which ones most usable for a Civic?), medium
> Channellocks.
>
> So, what do the rest of you carry?
>


I bought a $10 metric socket/wrench and magnetic-bit screwdriver set from
Big Lots,it works great,except I had to junk and replace the ratchet.It
even has a needle-nose pliers.

--
Jim Yanik
jyanik
at
kua.net

Jim Yanik 05-15-2006 09:40 AM

Re: Carry along tool kit
 
Mike Doyle <sigifrith@frontiernet.net> wrote in
news:8iP9g.883$oa1.348@news02.roc.ny:

> I'm trying to put together a small tool kit. Something to fit in
> the area above the spare. I'd like to have enough to cover any
> quick fix situations.
> I've come up with : Combo screwdriver, my small ratchet &
> a few sockets (which ones most usable for a Civic?), medium
> Channellocks.
>
> So, what do the rest of you carry?
>


I bought a $10 metric socket/wrench and magnetic-bit screwdriver set from
Big Lots,it works great,except I had to junk and replace the ratchet.It
even has a needle-nose pliers.

--
Jim Yanik
jyanik
at
kua.net

Jim Yanik 05-15-2006 09:40 AM

Re: Carry along tool kit
 
Mike Doyle <sigifrith@frontiernet.net> wrote in
news:8iP9g.883$oa1.348@news02.roc.ny:

> I'm trying to put together a small tool kit. Something to fit in
> the area above the spare. I'd like to have enough to cover any
> quick fix situations.
> I've come up with : Combo screwdriver, my small ratchet &
> a few sockets (which ones most usable for a Civic?), medium
> Channellocks.
>
> So, what do the rest of you carry?
>


I bought a $10 metric socket/wrench and magnetic-bit screwdriver set from
Big Lots,it works great,except I had to junk and replace the ratchet.It
even has a needle-nose pliers.

--
Jim Yanik
jyanik
at
kua.net


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