Snoop

I have replace all of them about 2-3 years ago,all were bought from Honda
dealer.I put winter tires on my car and went for alignement and to my
surprise i back upper bushing(small one that goes to the body part,about 5"
long) is totally worn out,all other are fine.

I'm thinking to replace them all with eurethane ones.Is it worth it?

What are the life expectancy of the OEM ones?

Thanks!

jim beam

Snoop wrote:
> I have replace all of them about 2-3 years ago,all were bought from Honda
> dealer.I put winter tires on my car and went for alignement and to my
> surprise i back upper bushing(small one that goes to the body part,about 5"
> long) is totally worn out,all other are fine.
>
> I'm thinking to replace them all with eurethane ones.Is it worth it?

not unless you enjoy squeaking.

>
> What are the life expectancy of the OEM ones?

what mileage do you do?

the most important bushing of all is the big one in the lower control
arm - make sure that is in good condition.

Snoop

I dont like sweeking at all so i'll stay with stock rubber ones,thanks for
the info,pretty affordables too.

I do like 10 000km a year.

Do you mean the one in the trailing arm that attaches to the frame(like 2
1/2' in size)?

Thanks!

"jim beam" <spamvortex@bad.example.net> wrote in message
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> Snoop wrote:
>> I have replace all of them about 2-3 years ago,all were bought from Honda
>> dealer.I put winter tires on my car and went for alignement and to my
>> surprise i back upper bushing(small one that goes to the body part,about
>> 5" long) is totally worn out,all other are fine.
>>
>> I'm thinking to replace them all with eurethane ones.Is it worth it?
>
> not unless you enjoy squeaking.
>
>>
>> What are the life expectancy of the OEM ones?
>
> what mileage do you do?
>
> the most important bushing of all is the big one in the lower control
> arm - make sure that is in good condition.

'Curly Q. Links'

Snoop wrote:
> I have replace all of them about 2-3 years ago,all were bought from Honda
> dealer.I put winter tires on my car and went for alignement and to my
> surprise i back upper bushing(small one that goes to the body part,about 5"
> long) is totally worn out,all other are fine.
>
> I'm thinking to replace them all with eurethane ones.Is it worth it?
>
> What are the life expectancy of the OEM ones?
>
> Thanks!

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I think that indicates they were snugged in place while the vehicle was
dangling on a hoist when the bolts were snugged, rather than with weight
on the wheels.

Sound right, anybody?

'Curly'

Tegger

"Snoop" <snoop@smelly.lol> wrote in news:fh8mng$qpl$1@aioe.org:

> I have replace all of them about 2-3 years ago,all were bought from
> Honda dealer.I put winter tires on my car and went for alignement and
> to my surprise i back upper bushing(small one that goes to the body
> part,about 5" long) is totally worn out,all other are fine.




Did you tighten the bushing bolts with the suspension at its normal resting
attitude? If the suspension is not at normal resting attitude when the
bolts are tightened, you will place damaging load on the bushings, which
will cause rapid failure.

You also have to make sure the bushings aren't binding, but have actually
rotated to a settled position. You do that by bouncing the suspension a few
times, and driving the car back and forth a few feet, before tightening the
bolts.



>
> I'm thinking to replace them all with eurethane ones.Is it worth it?



Squeak, squeak, squeak...



>
> What are the life expectancy of the OEM ones?



About 15 years, properly installed.


--
Tegger

The Unofficial Honda/Acura FAQ
www.tegger.com/hondafaq/

Snoop

Thanks Tegger!
We learn something new everyday.Should i replace all of them or just loosen
the one that are ok and do what you said?
Is the same apple to the "big" one in the trailing arm?
I have to replace both of them as well(likely 12yo)and they are worn out
quite a bit.

Thanks again!
"Tegger" <tegger@tegger.c0m> wrote in message
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> "Snoop" <snoop@smelly.lol> wrote in news:fh8mng$qpl$1@aioe.org:
>
>> I have replace all of them about 2-3 years ago,all were bought from
>> Honda dealer.I put winter tires on my car and went for alignement and
>> to my surprise i back upper bushing(small one that goes to the body
>> part,about 5" long) is totally worn out,all other are fine.
>
>
>
>
> Did you tighten the bushing bolts with the suspension at its normal
> resting
> attitude? If the suspension is not at normal resting attitude when the
> bolts are tightened, you will place damaging load on the bushings, which
> will cause rapid failure.
>
> You also have to make sure the bushings aren't binding, but have actually
> rotated to a settled position. You do that by bouncing the suspension a
> few
> times, and driving the car back and forth a few feet, before tightening
> the
> bolts.
>
>
>
>>
>> I'm thinking to replace them all with eurethane ones.Is it worth it?
>
>
>
> Squeak, squeak, squeak...
>
>
>
>>
>> What are the life expectancy of the OEM ones?
>
>
>
> About 15 years, properly installed.
>
>
> --
> Tegger
>
> The Unofficial Honda/Acura FAQ
> www.tegger.com/hondafaq/

Tegger

"Snoop" <snoop@smelly.lol> wrote in news:fhac70$do$1@aioe.org:

> Thanks Tegger!
> We learn something new everyday.Should i replace all of them or just
> loosen the one that are ok and do what you said?
> Is the same apple to the "big" one in the trailing arm?
> I have to replace both of them as well(likely 12yo)and they are worn
> out quite a bit.


If you've been running around on torqued bushings for a couple of years,
they're all likely damaged by this point. Simply repositioning a
damaged bushing will not un-damage it.

My advice (not having actually seen the car) would be to replace the
entire axle set all at once (the ones you replaced the first time
around). Just replacing one bushing might do funny things to your handling.

It's even more important to replace the big rear ones properly. Since
they're not solid, but consist of two rubber "posts" extending up and down
from the internal sleeve, torquing them will result in both posts fracturing
very quickly.

If the two big rear ones are not now actually cracked through, I'd advise
leaving them alone. They always develop surface cracks and the rubber
softens up considerably, but complete separation is not common.

These are some photos I took of when I did my fronts last year:
<http://www.tegger.com/hondafaq/misc/new_front_bushings/>

and this is how I loaded the bushings before tightening the bolts:
<http://www.tegger.com/hondafaq/misc/new_front_bushings/r_pass_outboard_loaded.jpg>

Did my rears the year before that.
<http://www.tegger.com/hondafaq/misc/old-bushings/no-rear-suspension.jpg>
The bolts in that case were considerably easier to access with the car
on the ground, so there I just drove the car up and down the driveway to
settle the bushings, then used long extensions on the torque wrench to
snug up the bolts.

I wish now I'd taken more pictures of both operations.

--
Tegger

The Unofficial Honda/Acura FAQ
www.tegger.com/hondafaq/