98 accord needs oil pan
#91
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Re: 98 accord needs oil pan
Grumpy AuContraire wrote:
>
> jim beam wrote:
>> JXStern wrote:
>>> On Tue, 14 Nov 2006 09:51:54 +0000 (UTC), Joe LaVigne
>>> <jlavigne@hits-buffalo.com> wrote:
>>>> That's the price of dealing with a dealer. You could try talking to the
>>>> service manager, to see if he will cut you a break, since the damage was
>>>> obviously done by his shop...
>>> Dealer swore to me it's natural after ten years or so, ... no?
>>>
>>> J.
>>>
>> ten years of what? ten years of over-torque, yes, it'll fail. 10 years
>> of correct usage? no.
>
>
>
> I have an '82 and '83 Honda Civic and both as far as I can tell have
> original oil pans with the correct plug. Oil pan drain plug problems
> are not limited to Hondas if my experience counts for anything over the
> past forty years...
>
> JT
imo, the only thing wrong with the honda plug is that it's got a big
bolt head in a nice accessible position where a knuckle-dragger can go
nuts on it with a long wrench. if they had a 3/8" square socket like
the auto transmissions, i don't think we'd ever see this problem.
>
> jim beam wrote:
>> JXStern wrote:
>>> On Tue, 14 Nov 2006 09:51:54 +0000 (UTC), Joe LaVigne
>>> <jlavigne@hits-buffalo.com> wrote:
>>>> That's the price of dealing with a dealer. You could try talking to the
>>>> service manager, to see if he will cut you a break, since the damage was
>>>> obviously done by his shop...
>>> Dealer swore to me it's natural after ten years or so, ... no?
>>>
>>> J.
>>>
>> ten years of what? ten years of over-torque, yes, it'll fail. 10 years
>> of correct usage? no.
>
>
>
> I have an '82 and '83 Honda Civic and both as far as I can tell have
> original oil pans with the correct plug. Oil pan drain plug problems
> are not limited to Hondas if my experience counts for anything over the
> past forty years...
>
> JT
imo, the only thing wrong with the honda plug is that it's got a big
bolt head in a nice accessible position where a knuckle-dragger can go
nuts on it with a long wrench. if they had a 3/8" square socket like
the auto transmissions, i don't think we'd ever see this problem.
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Re: 98 accord needs oil pan
Matthew wrote:
> Mike, Joe, Jim...I just hope American Honda agrees with you guys (and me!)
> The more I think about it, the more aggravated I get with the dealer.
> Unusual since this dealer has really taken good care of me service wise...
> I'll post again after I hear from the arbitrator.
"good service" means never getting to this stage. they should have at
least offered to compromise - if they didn't eat the cost entirely.
it's not worth losing a customer over a $130 part.
>
>
> "Michael Pardee" <michaeltnull@cybertrails.com> wrote in message
> news:6fmdnf_vU74qn8bYnZ2dnUVZ_hydnZ2d@sedona.net.. .
>> "Joe LaVigne" <jlavigne@hits-buffalo.com> wrote in message
>> news:ejerl2$374$13@news.datemas.de...
>>
>>> Under normal torque, without being cross-threaded, the threads should
> last
>>> forever. If they don't, then there is a problem with Honda that needs
> to
>>> be fixed.
>> Actually, I suspect that's the case. Even with careless torque other makes
>> seem to hold up forever. I don't think I've even seen the subject come up
> in
>> other auto fora.
>>
>> It would make more sense if the annulus the plug screws into were
> aluminum.
>> I'm pretty sure it's steel so I don't know what to make of it.
>>
>> Mike
>>
>>
>
>
> Mike, Joe, Jim...I just hope American Honda agrees with you guys (and me!)
> The more I think about it, the more aggravated I get with the dealer.
> Unusual since this dealer has really taken good care of me service wise...
> I'll post again after I hear from the arbitrator.
"good service" means never getting to this stage. they should have at
least offered to compromise - if they didn't eat the cost entirely.
it's not worth losing a customer over a $130 part.
>
>
> "Michael Pardee" <michaeltnull@cybertrails.com> wrote in message
> news:6fmdnf_vU74qn8bYnZ2dnUVZ_hydnZ2d@sedona.net.. .
>> "Joe LaVigne" <jlavigne@hits-buffalo.com> wrote in message
>> news:ejerl2$374$13@news.datemas.de...
>>
>>> Under normal torque, without being cross-threaded, the threads should
> last
>>> forever. If they don't, then there is a problem with Honda that needs
> to
>>> be fixed.
>> Actually, I suspect that's the case. Even with careless torque other makes
>> seem to hold up forever. I don't think I've even seen the subject come up
> in
>> other auto fora.
>>
>> It would make more sense if the annulus the plug screws into were
> aluminum.
>> I'm pretty sure it's steel so I don't know what to make of it.
>>
>> Mike
>>
>>
>
>
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Re: 98 accord needs oil pan
Matthew wrote:
> Mike, Joe, Jim...I just hope American Honda agrees with you guys (and me!)
> The more I think about it, the more aggravated I get with the dealer.
> Unusual since this dealer has really taken good care of me service wise...
> I'll post again after I hear from the arbitrator.
"good service" means never getting to this stage. they should have at
least offered to compromise - if they didn't eat the cost entirely.
it's not worth losing a customer over a $130 part.
>
>
> "Michael Pardee" <michaeltnull@cybertrails.com> wrote in message
> news:6fmdnf_vU74qn8bYnZ2dnUVZ_hydnZ2d@sedona.net.. .
>> "Joe LaVigne" <jlavigne@hits-buffalo.com> wrote in message
>> news:ejerl2$374$13@news.datemas.de...
>>
>>> Under normal torque, without being cross-threaded, the threads should
> last
>>> forever. If they don't, then there is a problem with Honda that needs
> to
>>> be fixed.
>> Actually, I suspect that's the case. Even with careless torque other makes
>> seem to hold up forever. I don't think I've even seen the subject come up
> in
>> other auto fora.
>>
>> It would make more sense if the annulus the plug screws into were
> aluminum.
>> I'm pretty sure it's steel so I don't know what to make of it.
>>
>> Mike
>>
>>
>
>
> Mike, Joe, Jim...I just hope American Honda agrees with you guys (and me!)
> The more I think about it, the more aggravated I get with the dealer.
> Unusual since this dealer has really taken good care of me service wise...
> I'll post again after I hear from the arbitrator.
"good service" means never getting to this stage. they should have at
least offered to compromise - if they didn't eat the cost entirely.
it's not worth losing a customer over a $130 part.
>
>
> "Michael Pardee" <michaeltnull@cybertrails.com> wrote in message
> news:6fmdnf_vU74qn8bYnZ2dnUVZ_hydnZ2d@sedona.net.. .
>> "Joe LaVigne" <jlavigne@hits-buffalo.com> wrote in message
>> news:ejerl2$374$13@news.datemas.de...
>>
>>> Under normal torque, without being cross-threaded, the threads should
> last
>>> forever. If they don't, then there is a problem with Honda that needs
> to
>>> be fixed.
>> Actually, I suspect that's the case. Even with careless torque other makes
>> seem to hold up forever. I don't think I've even seen the subject come up
> in
>> other auto fora.
>>
>> It would make more sense if the annulus the plug screws into were
> aluminum.
>> I'm pretty sure it's steel so I don't know what to make of it.
>>
>> Mike
>>
>>
>
>
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Re: 98 accord needs oil pan
Matthew wrote:
> Mike, Joe, Jim...I just hope American Honda agrees with you guys (and me!)
> The more I think about it, the more aggravated I get with the dealer.
> Unusual since this dealer has really taken good care of me service wise...
> I'll post again after I hear from the arbitrator.
"good service" means never getting to this stage. they should have at
least offered to compromise - if they didn't eat the cost entirely.
it's not worth losing a customer over a $130 part.
>
>
> "Michael Pardee" <michaeltnull@cybertrails.com> wrote in message
> news:6fmdnf_vU74qn8bYnZ2dnUVZ_hydnZ2d@sedona.net.. .
>> "Joe LaVigne" <jlavigne@hits-buffalo.com> wrote in message
>> news:ejerl2$374$13@news.datemas.de...
>>
>>> Under normal torque, without being cross-threaded, the threads should
> last
>>> forever. If they don't, then there is a problem with Honda that needs
> to
>>> be fixed.
>> Actually, I suspect that's the case. Even with careless torque other makes
>> seem to hold up forever. I don't think I've even seen the subject come up
> in
>> other auto fora.
>>
>> It would make more sense if the annulus the plug screws into were
> aluminum.
>> I'm pretty sure it's steel so I don't know what to make of it.
>>
>> Mike
>>
>>
>
>
> Mike, Joe, Jim...I just hope American Honda agrees with you guys (and me!)
> The more I think about it, the more aggravated I get with the dealer.
> Unusual since this dealer has really taken good care of me service wise...
> I'll post again after I hear from the arbitrator.
"good service" means never getting to this stage. they should have at
least offered to compromise - if they didn't eat the cost entirely.
it's not worth losing a customer over a $130 part.
>
>
> "Michael Pardee" <michaeltnull@cybertrails.com> wrote in message
> news:6fmdnf_vU74qn8bYnZ2dnUVZ_hydnZ2d@sedona.net.. .
>> "Joe LaVigne" <jlavigne@hits-buffalo.com> wrote in message
>> news:ejerl2$374$13@news.datemas.de...
>>
>>> Under normal torque, without being cross-threaded, the threads should
> last
>>> forever. If they don't, then there is a problem with Honda that needs
> to
>>> be fixed.
>> Actually, I suspect that's the case. Even with careless torque other makes
>> seem to hold up forever. I don't think I've even seen the subject come up
> in
>> other auto fora.
>>
>> It would make more sense if the annulus the plug screws into were
> aluminum.
>> I'm pretty sure it's steel so I don't know what to make of it.
>>
>> Mike
>>
>>
>
>
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Re: 98 accord needs oil pan
"Elle" <honda.lioness@nospam.earthlink.net> wrote in news:ieQ6h.7857
$ig4.7254@newsread2.news.pas.earthlink.net:
> "TeGGeR®" <tegger@tegger.c0m> wrote
>> According to my stats, I've changed my oil myself
>> approximately 95 times
>> since the warranty ran out in 1994.
>>
>> (Interesting. In 1994 I paid $7.11 for a gallon of Castrol
>> GTX at K-Mart.
>> The same stuff is up over $20 in 2006. Wow!)
>
> Gotta buy some of that oil stock with the money you save by
> doing so much car maintenance yourself. I finally had it
> with gas prices and surrendered in September ago, purchasing
> my first oil company position. ;-)
>
>
>
Except oil prices are going down now...
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$ig4.7254@newsread2.news.pas.earthlink.net:
> "TeGGeR®" <tegger@tegger.c0m> wrote
>> According to my stats, I've changed my oil myself
>> approximately 95 times
>> since the warranty ran out in 1994.
>>
>> (Interesting. In 1994 I paid $7.11 for a gallon of Castrol
>> GTX at K-Mart.
>> The same stuff is up over $20 in 2006. Wow!)
>
> Gotta buy some of that oil stock with the money you save by
> doing so much car maintenance yourself. I finally had it
> with gas prices and surrendered in September ago, purchasing
> my first oil company position. ;-)
>
>
>
Except oil prices are going down now...
--
TeGGeR®
The Unofficial Honda/Acura FAQ
www.tegger.com/hondafaq/
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Re: 98 accord needs oil pan
"Elle" <honda.lioness@nospam.earthlink.net> wrote in news:ieQ6h.7857
$ig4.7254@newsread2.news.pas.earthlink.net:
> "TeGGeR®" <tegger@tegger.c0m> wrote
>> According to my stats, I've changed my oil myself
>> approximately 95 times
>> since the warranty ran out in 1994.
>>
>> (Interesting. In 1994 I paid $7.11 for a gallon of Castrol
>> GTX at K-Mart.
>> The same stuff is up over $20 in 2006. Wow!)
>
> Gotta buy some of that oil stock with the money you save by
> doing so much car maintenance yourself. I finally had it
> with gas prices and surrendered in September ago, purchasing
> my first oil company position. ;-)
>
>
>
Except oil prices are going down now...
--
TeGGeR®
The Unofficial Honda/Acura FAQ
www.tegger.com/hondafaq/
$ig4.7254@newsread2.news.pas.earthlink.net:
> "TeGGeR®" <tegger@tegger.c0m> wrote
>> According to my stats, I've changed my oil myself
>> approximately 95 times
>> since the warranty ran out in 1994.
>>
>> (Interesting. In 1994 I paid $7.11 for a gallon of Castrol
>> GTX at K-Mart.
>> The same stuff is up over $20 in 2006. Wow!)
>
> Gotta buy some of that oil stock with the money you save by
> doing so much car maintenance yourself. I finally had it
> with gas prices and surrendered in September ago, purchasing
> my first oil company position. ;-)
>
>
>
Except oil prices are going down now...
--
TeGGeR®
The Unofficial Honda/Acura FAQ
www.tegger.com/hondafaq/
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Re: 98 accord needs oil pan
"Elle" <honda.lioness@nospam.earthlink.net> wrote in news:ieQ6h.7857
$ig4.7254@newsread2.news.pas.earthlink.net:
> "TeGGeR®" <tegger@tegger.c0m> wrote
>> According to my stats, I've changed my oil myself
>> approximately 95 times
>> since the warranty ran out in 1994.
>>
>> (Interesting. In 1994 I paid $7.11 for a gallon of Castrol
>> GTX at K-Mart.
>> The same stuff is up over $20 in 2006. Wow!)
>
> Gotta buy some of that oil stock with the money you save by
> doing so much car maintenance yourself. I finally had it
> with gas prices and surrendered in September ago, purchasing
> my first oil company position. ;-)
>
>
>
Except oil prices are going down now...
--
TeGGeR®
The Unofficial Honda/Acura FAQ
www.tegger.com/hondafaq/
$ig4.7254@newsread2.news.pas.earthlink.net:
> "TeGGeR®" <tegger@tegger.c0m> wrote
>> According to my stats, I've changed my oil myself
>> approximately 95 times
>> since the warranty ran out in 1994.
>>
>> (Interesting. In 1994 I paid $7.11 for a gallon of Castrol
>> GTX at K-Mart.
>> The same stuff is up over $20 in 2006. Wow!)
>
> Gotta buy some of that oil stock with the money you save by
> doing so much car maintenance yourself. I finally had it
> with gas prices and surrendered in September ago, purchasing
> my first oil company position. ;-)
>
>
>
Except oil prices are going down now...
--
TeGGeR®
The Unofficial Honda/Acura FAQ
www.tegger.com/hondafaq/
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Re: 98 accord needs oil pan
"TeGGeR®" <tegger@tegger.c0m> wrote
> "Elle" <honda.lioness@nospam.earthlink.net> wrote
>> "TeGGeR®" <tegger@tegger.c0m> wrote
>>> According to my stats, I've changed my oil myself
>>> approximately 95 times
>>> since the warranty ran out in 1994.
>>>
>>> (Interesting. In 1994 I paid $7.11 for a gallon of
>>> Castrol
>>> GTX at K-Mart.
>>> The same stuff is up over $20 in 2006. Wow!)
>>
>> Gotta buy some of that oil stock with the money you save
>> by
>> doing so much car maintenance yourself. I finally had it
>> with gas prices and surrendered in September ago,
>> purchasing
>> my first oil company position. ;-)
>>
>>
>>
>
>
> Except oil prices are going down now...
Historically, oil stock price growth and stock dividend
growth have beat inflation by a lot. This of course is
consistent with your observation above on the Castrol oil.
> "Elle" <honda.lioness@nospam.earthlink.net> wrote
>> "TeGGeR®" <tegger@tegger.c0m> wrote
>>> According to my stats, I've changed my oil myself
>>> approximately 95 times
>>> since the warranty ran out in 1994.
>>>
>>> (Interesting. In 1994 I paid $7.11 for a gallon of
>>> Castrol
>>> GTX at K-Mart.
>>> The same stuff is up over $20 in 2006. Wow!)
>>
>> Gotta buy some of that oil stock with the money you save
>> by
>> doing so much car maintenance yourself. I finally had it
>> with gas prices and surrendered in September ago,
>> purchasing
>> my first oil company position. ;-)
>>
>>
>>
>
>
> Except oil prices are going down now...
Historically, oil stock price growth and stock dividend
growth have beat inflation by a lot. This of course is
consistent with your observation above on the Castrol oil.
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Re: 98 accord needs oil pan
"TeGGeR®" <tegger@tegger.c0m> wrote
> "Elle" <honda.lioness@nospam.earthlink.net> wrote
>> "TeGGeR®" <tegger@tegger.c0m> wrote
>>> According to my stats, I've changed my oil myself
>>> approximately 95 times
>>> since the warranty ran out in 1994.
>>>
>>> (Interesting. In 1994 I paid $7.11 for a gallon of
>>> Castrol
>>> GTX at K-Mart.
>>> The same stuff is up over $20 in 2006. Wow!)
>>
>> Gotta buy some of that oil stock with the money you save
>> by
>> doing so much car maintenance yourself. I finally had it
>> with gas prices and surrendered in September ago,
>> purchasing
>> my first oil company position. ;-)
>>
>>
>>
>
>
> Except oil prices are going down now...
Historically, oil stock price growth and stock dividend
growth have beat inflation by a lot. This of course is
consistent with your observation above on the Castrol oil.
> "Elle" <honda.lioness@nospam.earthlink.net> wrote
>> "TeGGeR®" <tegger@tegger.c0m> wrote
>>> According to my stats, I've changed my oil myself
>>> approximately 95 times
>>> since the warranty ran out in 1994.
>>>
>>> (Interesting. In 1994 I paid $7.11 for a gallon of
>>> Castrol
>>> GTX at K-Mart.
>>> The same stuff is up over $20 in 2006. Wow!)
>>
>> Gotta buy some of that oil stock with the money you save
>> by
>> doing so much car maintenance yourself. I finally had it
>> with gas prices and surrendered in September ago,
>> purchasing
>> my first oil company position. ;-)
>>
>>
>>
>
>
> Except oil prices are going down now...
Historically, oil stock price growth and stock dividend
growth have beat inflation by a lot. This of course is
consistent with your observation above on the Castrol oil.
#100
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Re: 98 accord needs oil pan
"TeGGeR®" <tegger@tegger.c0m> wrote
> "Elle" <honda.lioness@nospam.earthlink.net> wrote
>> "TeGGeR®" <tegger@tegger.c0m> wrote
>>> According to my stats, I've changed my oil myself
>>> approximately 95 times
>>> since the warranty ran out in 1994.
>>>
>>> (Interesting. In 1994 I paid $7.11 for a gallon of
>>> Castrol
>>> GTX at K-Mart.
>>> The same stuff is up over $20 in 2006. Wow!)
>>
>> Gotta buy some of that oil stock with the money you save
>> by
>> doing so much car maintenance yourself. I finally had it
>> with gas prices and surrendered in September ago,
>> purchasing
>> my first oil company position. ;-)
>>
>>
>>
>
>
> Except oil prices are going down now...
Historically, oil stock price growth and stock dividend
growth have beat inflation by a lot. This of course is
consistent with your observation above on the Castrol oil.
> "Elle" <honda.lioness@nospam.earthlink.net> wrote
>> "TeGGeR®" <tegger@tegger.c0m> wrote
>>> According to my stats, I've changed my oil myself
>>> approximately 95 times
>>> since the warranty ran out in 1994.
>>>
>>> (Interesting. In 1994 I paid $7.11 for a gallon of
>>> Castrol
>>> GTX at K-Mart.
>>> The same stuff is up over $20 in 2006. Wow!)
>>
>> Gotta buy some of that oil stock with the money you save
>> by
>> doing so much car maintenance yourself. I finally had it
>> with gas prices and surrendered in September ago,
>> purchasing
>> my first oil company position. ;-)
>>
>>
>>
>
>
> Except oil prices are going down now...
Historically, oil stock price growth and stock dividend
growth have beat inflation by a lot. This of course is
consistent with your observation above on the Castrol oil.
#101
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"TeGGeR®" wrote:
>
> "Elle" <honda.lioness@nospam.earthlink.net> wrote in news:ieQ6h.7857
> $ig4.7254@newsread2.news.pas.earthlink.net:
>
> > "TeGGeR®" <tegger@tegger.c0m> wrote
> >> According to my stats, I've changed my oil myself
> >> approximately 95 times
> >> since the warranty ran out in 1994.
> >>
> >> (Interesting. In 1994 I paid $7.11 for a gallon of Castrol
> >> GTX at K-Mart.
> >> The same stuff is up over $20 in 2006. Wow!)
> >
> > Gotta buy some of that oil stock with the money you save by
> > doing so much car maintenance yourself. I finally had it
> > with gas prices and surrendered in September ago, purchasing
> > my first oil company position. ;-)
> >
> >
> >
>
> Except oil prices are going down now...
>
> --
> TeGGeR®
>
>
Yeah but... It's curious on how some oil related stuff never goes down.
Products like propane, motor oil etc simply become a cash cow to big oil.
Gas prices OTOH are an everyday encounter so smart business requires
attention by producers to maintain (what they think) the market will bear.
JT
(Grumpier than normal today..)
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Re: 98 accord needs oil pan
"TeGGeR®" wrote:
>
> "Elle" <honda.lioness@nospam.earthlink.net> wrote in news:ieQ6h.7857
> $ig4.7254@newsread2.news.pas.earthlink.net:
>
> > "TeGGeR®" <tegger@tegger.c0m> wrote
> >> According to my stats, I've changed my oil myself
> >> approximately 95 times
> >> since the warranty ran out in 1994.
> >>
> >> (Interesting. In 1994 I paid $7.11 for a gallon of Castrol
> >> GTX at K-Mart.
> >> The same stuff is up over $20 in 2006. Wow!)
> >
> > Gotta buy some of that oil stock with the money you save by
> > doing so much car maintenance yourself. I finally had it
> > with gas prices and surrendered in September ago, purchasing
> > my first oil company position. ;-)
> >
> >
> >
>
> Except oil prices are going down now...
>
> --
> TeGGeR®
>
>
Yeah but... It's curious on how some oil related stuff never goes down.
Products like propane, motor oil etc simply become a cash cow to big oil.
Gas prices OTOH are an everyday encounter so smart business requires
attention by producers to maintain (what they think) the market will bear.
JT
(Grumpier than normal today..)
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Re: 98 accord needs oil pan
"TeGGeR®" wrote:
>
> "Elle" <honda.lioness@nospam.earthlink.net> wrote in news:ieQ6h.7857
> $ig4.7254@newsread2.news.pas.earthlink.net:
>
> > "TeGGeR®" <tegger@tegger.c0m> wrote
> >> According to my stats, I've changed my oil myself
> >> approximately 95 times
> >> since the warranty ran out in 1994.
> >>
> >> (Interesting. In 1994 I paid $7.11 for a gallon of Castrol
> >> GTX at K-Mart.
> >> The same stuff is up over $20 in 2006. Wow!)
> >
> > Gotta buy some of that oil stock with the money you save by
> > doing so much car maintenance yourself. I finally had it
> > with gas prices and surrendered in September ago, purchasing
> > my first oil company position. ;-)
> >
> >
> >
>
> Except oil prices are going down now...
>
> --
> TeGGeR®
>
>
Yeah but... It's curious on how some oil related stuff never goes down.
Products like propane, motor oil etc simply become a cash cow to big oil.
Gas prices OTOH are an everyday encounter so smart business requires
attention by producers to maintain (what they think) the market will bear.
JT
(Grumpier than normal today..)
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Re: 98 accord needs oil pan
TeGGeR® wrote:
> Jim Yanik <jyanik@abuse.gov> wrote in
> news:Xns987CCAC9ABD1Ajyanikkuanet@129.250.170.86:
>
>
> >
> > Makes me wonder if Tegger has ever been under his Integra to change
> > his oil. (I doubt his VTEC is any different than mine in that
> > respect.)
> >
> >
>
>
> According to my stats, I've changed my oil myself approximately 95 times
> since the warranty ran out in 1994.
>
> (Interesting. In 1994 I paid $7.11 for a gallon of Castrol GTX at K-Mart.
> The same stuff is up over $20 in 2006. Wow!)
>
> The drain bolt is barely hidden by the oil pan, maybe 1/4" up from the
> lowest point.
>
> From a quick look at the link that was provided of that spigot-thingy, I
> couldn't see how it would go on without sticking down below the oil
> pan's bottom. If I was wrong, I was wrong. I still won't use those
> things.
>
> And I don't have VTEC!
>
>
> --
> TeGGeR®
>
> The Unofficial Honda/Acura FAQ
> www.tegger.com/hondafaq/
Mite hit a score spot but wallmart sell a five quart container for
under ten bucks GTX
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Re: 98 accord needs oil pan
TeGGeR® wrote:
> Jim Yanik <jyanik@abuse.gov> wrote in
> news:Xns987CCAC9ABD1Ajyanikkuanet@129.250.170.86:
>
>
> >
> > Makes me wonder if Tegger has ever been under his Integra to change
> > his oil. (I doubt his VTEC is any different than mine in that
> > respect.)
> >
> >
>
>
> According to my stats, I've changed my oil myself approximately 95 times
> since the warranty ran out in 1994.
>
> (Interesting. In 1994 I paid $7.11 for a gallon of Castrol GTX at K-Mart.
> The same stuff is up over $20 in 2006. Wow!)
>
> The drain bolt is barely hidden by the oil pan, maybe 1/4" up from the
> lowest point.
>
> From a quick look at the link that was provided of that spigot-thingy, I
> couldn't see how it would go on without sticking down below the oil
> pan's bottom. If I was wrong, I was wrong. I still won't use those
> things.
>
> And I don't have VTEC!
>
>
> --
> TeGGeR®
>
> The Unofficial Honda/Acura FAQ
> www.tegger.com/hondafaq/
Mite hit a score spot but wallmart sell a five quart container for
under ten bucks GTX