99 Civic Just got new Motor Mounts, Timing B, Car making Metal to Metal noise on idle
Hello all,
I'm new to the fourms. Im hoping someone can maybe shed some light on this... I have a 1999 Honda Civic LX Auto 74,000 miles, Car made a loud thump and sounded like a flat, I had towed to Honda dealer advised me I some how had broken all three Motor mounts. Also suggested timing belt, drive belts, water pump and Fuel injection cleaning, also as a prevenitive I replaced the fuel filter and plugs. The car ran good for a day, Now all of a sudden it makes a high pitched metal to metal noise on idle I dont here if I run it out a few thousand RPM's, and it doesnt sound like a belt screech. Also the car sounds awfult to me, It has a bit of a lope to it that it never had when it went in there. Dealer wants me to bring it back to them, Im a bit scared to seeing how it runs now and I paid 1200 dollars for all this work. Any suggestions would greatly be appreciated Regards, Dennis |
Re: 99 Civic Just got new Motor Mounts, Timing B, Car making Metal toMetal noise on idle
pcfabix wrote:
> > Hello all, > > I'm new to the fourms. Im hoping someone can maybe shed some light on > this... > > I have a 1999 Honda Civic LX Auto 74,000 miles, Car made a loud thump and > sounded like a flat, I had towed to Honda dealer advised me I some how had > broken all three Motor mounts. Also suggested timing belt, drive belts, > water pump and Fuel injection cleaning, also as a prevenitive I replaced > the fuel filter and plugs. > > The car ran good for a day, Now all of a sudden it makes a high pitched > metal to metal noise on idle I dont here if I run it out a few thousand > RPM's, and it doesnt sound like a belt screech. Also the car sounds awfult > to me, It has a bit of a lope to it that it never had when it went in > there. > > Dealer wants me to bring it back to them, Im a bit scared to seeing how it > runs now and I paid 1200 dollars for all this work. > > Any suggestions would greatly be appreciated > The Honda dealer should stand behind their work. Unfortunately, the symptoms you've described sound like they may have gotten something wrong with the timing belt. Do NOT drive the car. Have it towed back to the dealership. If the Honda dealer does not stand behind their work then you should contact Honda Motor Company Customer Service at... American Honda Motor Co., Inc. Honda Automobile Customer Service 1919 Torrance Boulevard Mail Stop: 500 - 2N - 7D Torrance, CA 90501-2746 http://www.hondacars.com/info/customer_relations.asp Eric |
Re: 99 Civic Just got new Motor Mounts, Timing B, Car making Met
I spoke to Honda, they state to just drive the vechicle in and they will
put me in a loaner. I really do hate driving it a half hour if they did something wrong :-/ I guess if worse comes to worse, if they damaged the motor they would have to fix it right? Thanks for the help, Dennis |
Re: 99 Civic Just got new Motor Mounts, Timing B, Car making Met
pcfabix wrote:
> > I spoke to Honda, they state to just drive the vechicle in and they will > put me in a loaner. I really do hate driving it a half hour if they did > something wrong :-/ I guess if worse comes to worse, if they damaged the > motor they would have to fix it right? > You stated... > Now all of a sudden it makes a high pitched metal to metal noise on idle If this is true, in effect there really is metal to metal, than driving it back to the dealer is probably not a good idea. Can you see anything in the engine compartment that might be the source for this noise? Eric |
Re: 99 Civic Just got new Motor Mounts, Timing B, Car making Met
I've looked around the motor I can not see anything that would be causing
the noise. To me the closet thing I ever herd to this noise is a bad Pulley, but I dont see how a pulley could ne ok befor they start the work and be bad the next day after picking it up :-/ Then with the engine having a lope sound to it Im really concerned something wasn't done correctly. This is why I took it to Honda instead of attemping to do it my self or have a fly by night shop do it. But I'm not going to jump to conclusions till the dealer looks at it, I requested a different mechanic but they said the mechanic that did the work would have to look at the car... |
Took it back to the dealer
Well I took the car back to the dealer, they were nice enough to loan me a
2004 2 Door Accord EX V6 WHAT a car....Back to realty, They advised me the mechanic over tightened the belt and damaged a gasket in the air box when he did the Fuel Inhection cleaning and that the car is good to go. I went to the dealer reved it out a few thouand RPM's let it go to idle and repeated several times, satisifed it wasnt make the noise I left. Well I got about 10 miles to my house and it started the same noise again. The dealer said it is a whistle not a metal to metal noise. What ever it is I just want them to fix it. I brought out a stethoscope and if facing the car it is comeing from the right hand side of the motor in either the timing belt cover or the pulleys. Is it possible the goof that over tightened the belts damaged a pulley? and would Honda be responsible? I'm really not in the mood to make another trip to the dealer I dont know what to do at this point.... |
Re: Took it back to the dealer
"pcfabix" <dennisw76@hotmail.com> wrote in message news:1f9aa3380cdccdb5548d0b33e6d8fe0b@localhost.ta lkaboutautos.com... > Well I took the car back to the dealer, they were nice enough to loan me a > 2004 2 Door Accord EX V6 WHAT a car....Back to realty, They advised me the > mechanic over tightened the belt and damaged a gasket in the air box when > he did the Fuel Inhection cleaning and that the car is good to go. > > I went to the dealer reved it out a few thouand RPM's let it go to idle > and repeated several times, satisifed it wasnt make the noise I left. Well > I got about 10 miles to my house and it started the same noise again. The > dealer said it is a whistle not a metal to metal noise. What ever it is I > just want them to fix it. I brought out a stethoscope and if facing the > car it is comeing from the right hand side of the motor in either the > timing belt cover or the pulleys. > > Is it possible the goof that over tightened the belts damaged a pulley? > and would Honda be responsible? > > I'm really not in the mood to make another trip to the dealer I dont know > what to do at this point.... > > Keep taking it back till they get it right. It is your only choice. You may ask that another technician be assigned to the problem. MCB |
Re: Took it back to the dealer
pcfabix wrote:
> > Well I took the car back to the dealer, they were nice enough to loan me a > 2004 2 Door Accord EX V6 WHAT a car....Back to realty, They advised me the > mechanic over tightened the belt and damaged a gasket in the air box when > he did the Fuel Inhection cleaning and that the car is good to go. Which belt was over tightened? > I went to the dealer reved it out a few thouand RPM's let it go to idle > and repeated several times, satisifed it wasnt make the noise I left. Well > I got about 10 miles to my house and it started the same noise again. The > dealer said it is a whistle not a metal to metal noise. What ever it is I > just want them to fix it. I brought out a stethoscope and if facing the > car it is comeing from the right hand side of the motor in either the > timing belt cover or the pulleys. > > Is it possible the goof that over tightened the belts damaged a pulley? > and would Honda be responsible? Damaging a pulley, not likely. However, it is possible to damage the bearings in a device that is turned by that pulley. Alternator bearings come to mind here. Another possibility is that they did not change the timing belt tensioner bearing. An old bearing will usually not make noise with an old belt. However, once a new, properly tensioned belt is put on the bearing can begin to make noise. Check your invoice. It would be interesting to know what parts they did put into the timing belt. > I'm really not in the mood to make another trip to the dealer I dont know > what to do at this point.... I would take it back to the dealer until they get it right. You could take it to another shop and have them diagnose the problem and then take that information with you to the dealer. However, that will wind up costing you for the other shop's diagnosis time. If it really is a whistling noise, then one possible source is the PCV valve. If you pinch the hose connecting to the PCV valve closed and the noise stops then you've found your problem. Eric |
Re: 99 Civic Just got new Motor Mounts, Timing B, Car making Metal t
Well I called the dealer bright and early, they are not concerned that it
is anything major.. The tech that worked on my car is going on vacation for a week and would like me to drive the car as is for a week. They further stated that they have never a noise like this. Eric you bring up a very interesting point, I would like to know what they replaced when they did the timing belt. That in its self was almost 600 dollars. I would like to know if they replaced the bearing. The only thing i see on the recipt that is running off the page is: Water Pump, Coolant, Belts...hrmmmm The dealer is saying that they think it is just something with the throttle body, something clugged in there or something and are offering to redo the throttle body cleaning in one week. They further stated that they already replaced a gasket on the air box that was damaged. When I listen to the car its not coming from the throttle body its coming from the right hand side of the motor, more towards the altenator. |
Re: Tensioner Bearing
Well I looked at the receipt there isn't any bearings, just the belts and
water pump. The car has gotten to the point were I aint driving it now, the noise is so loud people are giving me dirty looks and rolling there windows up. Im going to bring it back to the dealer Monday I could care less the mechanic that messed up my car err worked on my car is on a week long vacation. Im going to tell them the car in this condition is unacceptable, and to make it right and I will not pick it up till I feel its right. |
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