___ O2 sensors have to be 'scoped'
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Re: ___ O2 sensors have to be 'scoped'
Jim Yanik <jyanik@abuse.gov> wrote in
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> "TeGGeR®" <tegger@tegger.c0m> wrote in
> news:Xns97A1CF22FDD4Dtegger@207.14.113.17:
>
>> "'Curly Q. Links'" <motsco__@interbaun.com> wrote in
>> news:4439EE0B.5253362@interbaun.com:
>>
>>
>>>
>>> I meant what I said in the subject line . . . They have to be
>>> 'scoped'. OBDII can't be trusted to catch a sensor that's just
>>> running SLOW. A digital multimeter won't show that at all. If you
>>> haven't noticed by now, I'm a penny pincher. If anything, I'd use the
>>> BOIL IT IN LIME-AWAY cure before I'd BUY a new O2 sensor, but I'll be
>>> scoping it all before and after.
>>
>>
>>
>> Just fishing here, but where's a good place to pick up a scope for
>> not-too- much money?
>>
>
> What's "too much money"?
> Ebay would be my 1st choice.
I see five of them on eBay right now, ranging from $50 to $300.
Don't know anything about scopes, so I think I'd have to do some larnin'
afore I buys one.
> I'd look for an LCD scope for automotive applications.
> Tektronix (#1 scope maker)used to make one,5Mhz bandwidth,handheld,THM-
> something was the model,also sold under a automotive tool makers badge.
> (sorry,I'm too feeble to recall the exact company) ;-)
>
> I'll try to look into it further;if I find something,I'll post it here.
>
Any advice would be nice.
--
TeGGeR®
The Unofficial Honda/Acura FAQ
www.tegger.com/hondafaq/
news:Xns97A1D2ACF6A7Cjyanikkuanet@129.250.170.85:
> "TeGGeR®" <tegger@tegger.c0m> wrote in
> news:Xns97A1CF22FDD4Dtegger@207.14.113.17:
>
>> "'Curly Q. Links'" <motsco__@interbaun.com> wrote in
>> news:4439EE0B.5253362@interbaun.com:
>>
>>
>>>
>>> I meant what I said in the subject line . . . They have to be
>>> 'scoped'. OBDII can't be trusted to catch a sensor that's just
>>> running SLOW. A digital multimeter won't show that at all. If you
>>> haven't noticed by now, I'm a penny pincher. If anything, I'd use the
>>> BOIL IT IN LIME-AWAY cure before I'd BUY a new O2 sensor, but I'll be
>>> scoping it all before and after.
>>
>>
>>
>> Just fishing here, but where's a good place to pick up a scope for
>> not-too- much money?
>>
>
> What's "too much money"?
> Ebay would be my 1st choice.
I see five of them on eBay right now, ranging from $50 to $300.
Don't know anything about scopes, so I think I'd have to do some larnin'
afore I buys one.
> I'd look for an LCD scope for automotive applications.
> Tektronix (#1 scope maker)used to make one,5Mhz bandwidth,handheld,THM-
> something was the model,also sold under a automotive tool makers badge.
> (sorry,I'm too feeble to recall the exact company) ;-)
>
> I'll try to look into it further;if I find something,I'll post it here.
>
Any advice would be nice.
--
TeGGeR®
The Unofficial Honda/Acura FAQ
www.tegger.com/hondafaq/
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Re: ___ O2 sensors have to be 'scoped'
Jim Yanik <jyanik@abuse.gov> wrote in
news:Xns97A1D2ACF6A7Cjyanikkuanet@129.250.170.85:
> "TeGGeR®" <tegger@tegger.c0m> wrote in
> news:Xns97A1CF22FDD4Dtegger@207.14.113.17:
>
>> "'Curly Q. Links'" <motsco__@interbaun.com> wrote in
>> news:4439EE0B.5253362@interbaun.com:
>>
>>
>>>
>>> I meant what I said in the subject line . . . They have to be
>>> 'scoped'. OBDII can't be trusted to catch a sensor that's just
>>> running SLOW. A digital multimeter won't show that at all. If you
>>> haven't noticed by now, I'm a penny pincher. If anything, I'd use the
>>> BOIL IT IN LIME-AWAY cure before I'd BUY a new O2 sensor, but I'll be
>>> scoping it all before and after.
>>
>>
>>
>> Just fishing here, but where's a good place to pick up a scope for
>> not-too- much money?
>>
>
> What's "too much money"?
> Ebay would be my 1st choice.
I see five of them on eBay right now, ranging from $50 to $300.
Don't know anything about scopes, so I think I'd have to do some larnin'
afore I buys one.
> I'd look for an LCD scope for automotive applications.
> Tektronix (#1 scope maker)used to make one,5Mhz bandwidth,handheld,THM-
> something was the model,also sold under a automotive tool makers badge.
> (sorry,I'm too feeble to recall the exact company) ;-)
>
> I'll try to look into it further;if I find something,I'll post it here.
>
Any advice would be nice.
--
TeGGeR®
The Unofficial Honda/Acura FAQ
www.tegger.com/hondafaq/
news:Xns97A1D2ACF6A7Cjyanikkuanet@129.250.170.85:
> "TeGGeR®" <tegger@tegger.c0m> wrote in
> news:Xns97A1CF22FDD4Dtegger@207.14.113.17:
>
>> "'Curly Q. Links'" <motsco__@interbaun.com> wrote in
>> news:4439EE0B.5253362@interbaun.com:
>>
>>
>>>
>>> I meant what I said in the subject line . . . They have to be
>>> 'scoped'. OBDII can't be trusted to catch a sensor that's just
>>> running SLOW. A digital multimeter won't show that at all. If you
>>> haven't noticed by now, I'm a penny pincher. If anything, I'd use the
>>> BOIL IT IN LIME-AWAY cure before I'd BUY a new O2 sensor, but I'll be
>>> scoping it all before and after.
>>
>>
>>
>> Just fishing here, but where's a good place to pick up a scope for
>> not-too- much money?
>>
>
> What's "too much money"?
> Ebay would be my 1st choice.
I see five of them on eBay right now, ranging from $50 to $300.
Don't know anything about scopes, so I think I'd have to do some larnin'
afore I buys one.
> I'd look for an LCD scope for automotive applications.
> Tektronix (#1 scope maker)used to make one,5Mhz bandwidth,handheld,THM-
> something was the model,also sold under a automotive tool makers badge.
> (sorry,I'm too feeble to recall the exact company) ;-)
>
> I'll try to look into it further;if I find something,I'll post it here.
>
Any advice would be nice.
--
TeGGeR®
The Unofficial Honda/Acura FAQ
www.tegger.com/hondafaq/
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Re: ___ O2 sensors have to be 'scoped'
"TeGGeR®" <tegger@tegger.c0m> wrote in
news:Xns97A1DF09467A2tegger@207.14.113.17:
> Jim Yanik <jyanik@abuse.gov> wrote in
> news:Xns97A1D2ACF6A7Cjyanikkuanet@129.250.170.85:
>
>> "TeGGeR®" <tegger@tegger.c0m> wrote in
>> news:Xns97A1CF22FDD4Dtegger@207.14.113.17:
>>
>>> "'Curly Q. Links'" <motsco__@interbaun.com> wrote in
>>> news:4439EE0B.5253362@interbaun.com:
>>>
>>>
>>>>
>>>> I meant what I said in the subject line . . . They have to be
>>>> 'scoped'. OBDII can't be trusted to catch a sensor that's just
>>>> running SLOW. A digital multimeter won't show that at all. If you
>>>> haven't noticed by now, I'm a penny pincher. If anything, I'd use the
>>>> BOIL IT IN LIME-AWAY cure before I'd BUY a new O2 sensor, but I'll be
>>>> scoping it all before and after.
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> Just fishing here, but where's a good place to pick up a scope for
>>> not-too- much money?
>>>
>>
>> What's "too much money"?
>> Ebay would be my 1st choice.
>
>
>
> I see five of them on eBay right now, ranging from $50 to $300.
>
> Don't know anything about scopes, so I think I'd have to do some larnin'
> afore I buys one.
>
>
>
>> I'd look for an LCD scope for automotive applications.
>> Tektronix (#1 scope maker)used to make one,5Mhz bandwidth,handheld,THM-
>> something was the model,also sold under a automotive tool makers badge.
>> (sorry,I'm too feeble to recall the exact company) ;-)
>>
>> I'll try to look into it further;if I find something,I'll post it here.
>>
>
>
>
> Any advice would be nice.
>
For an AC-mains powered scope,a TEK 2213,2215,or "A" versions are good TEK
scopes.~$100-250
The TEK TDS210,TDS 220 are nice LCD digital bench scopes(AC line
powered).originally cost $1000,should go for $200-300 IMO.
They will be more in demand,though.(newer)
They should run off a 100W pseudo-sine wave inverter,too.
A TEK T-922,T-932,or T-935 would be a good low-cost(no more than$100)AC
line-powered scope.
you'll need a 10x probe with them,and have to back-pin the connectors.
--
Jim Yanik
jyanik
at
kua.net
news:Xns97A1DF09467A2tegger@207.14.113.17:
> Jim Yanik <jyanik@abuse.gov> wrote in
> news:Xns97A1D2ACF6A7Cjyanikkuanet@129.250.170.85:
>
>> "TeGGeR®" <tegger@tegger.c0m> wrote in
>> news:Xns97A1CF22FDD4Dtegger@207.14.113.17:
>>
>>> "'Curly Q. Links'" <motsco__@interbaun.com> wrote in
>>> news:4439EE0B.5253362@interbaun.com:
>>>
>>>
>>>>
>>>> I meant what I said in the subject line . . . They have to be
>>>> 'scoped'. OBDII can't be trusted to catch a sensor that's just
>>>> running SLOW. A digital multimeter won't show that at all. If you
>>>> haven't noticed by now, I'm a penny pincher. If anything, I'd use the
>>>> BOIL IT IN LIME-AWAY cure before I'd BUY a new O2 sensor, but I'll be
>>>> scoping it all before and after.
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> Just fishing here, but where's a good place to pick up a scope for
>>> not-too- much money?
>>>
>>
>> What's "too much money"?
>> Ebay would be my 1st choice.
>
>
>
> I see five of them on eBay right now, ranging from $50 to $300.
>
> Don't know anything about scopes, so I think I'd have to do some larnin'
> afore I buys one.
>
>
>
>> I'd look for an LCD scope for automotive applications.
>> Tektronix (#1 scope maker)used to make one,5Mhz bandwidth,handheld,THM-
>> something was the model,also sold under a automotive tool makers badge.
>> (sorry,I'm too feeble to recall the exact company) ;-)
>>
>> I'll try to look into it further;if I find something,I'll post it here.
>>
>
>
>
> Any advice would be nice.
>
For an AC-mains powered scope,a TEK 2213,2215,or "A" versions are good TEK
scopes.~$100-250
The TEK TDS210,TDS 220 are nice LCD digital bench scopes(AC line
powered).originally cost $1000,should go for $200-300 IMO.
They will be more in demand,though.(newer)
They should run off a 100W pseudo-sine wave inverter,too.
A TEK T-922,T-932,or T-935 would be a good low-cost(no more than$100)AC
line-powered scope.
you'll need a 10x probe with them,and have to back-pin the connectors.
--
Jim Yanik
jyanik
at
kua.net
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Re: ___ O2 sensors have to be 'scoped'
"TeGGeR®" <tegger@tegger.c0m> wrote in
news:Xns97A1DF09467A2tegger@207.14.113.17:
> Jim Yanik <jyanik@abuse.gov> wrote in
> news:Xns97A1D2ACF6A7Cjyanikkuanet@129.250.170.85:
>
>> "TeGGeR®" <tegger@tegger.c0m> wrote in
>> news:Xns97A1CF22FDD4Dtegger@207.14.113.17:
>>
>>> "'Curly Q. Links'" <motsco__@interbaun.com> wrote in
>>> news:4439EE0B.5253362@interbaun.com:
>>>
>>>
>>>>
>>>> I meant what I said in the subject line . . . They have to be
>>>> 'scoped'. OBDII can't be trusted to catch a sensor that's just
>>>> running SLOW. A digital multimeter won't show that at all. If you
>>>> haven't noticed by now, I'm a penny pincher. If anything, I'd use the
>>>> BOIL IT IN LIME-AWAY cure before I'd BUY a new O2 sensor, but I'll be
>>>> scoping it all before and after.
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> Just fishing here, but where's a good place to pick up a scope for
>>> not-too- much money?
>>>
>>
>> What's "too much money"?
>> Ebay would be my 1st choice.
>
>
>
> I see five of them on eBay right now, ranging from $50 to $300.
>
> Don't know anything about scopes, so I think I'd have to do some larnin'
> afore I buys one.
>
>
>
>> I'd look for an LCD scope for automotive applications.
>> Tektronix (#1 scope maker)used to make one,5Mhz bandwidth,handheld,THM-
>> something was the model,also sold under a automotive tool makers badge.
>> (sorry,I'm too feeble to recall the exact company) ;-)
>>
>> I'll try to look into it further;if I find something,I'll post it here.
>>
>
>
>
> Any advice would be nice.
>
For an AC-mains powered scope,a TEK 2213,2215,or "A" versions are good TEK
scopes.~$100-250
The TEK TDS210,TDS 220 are nice LCD digital bench scopes(AC line
powered).originally cost $1000,should go for $200-300 IMO.
They will be more in demand,though.(newer)
They should run off a 100W pseudo-sine wave inverter,too.
A TEK T-922,T-932,or T-935 would be a good low-cost(no more than$100)AC
line-powered scope.
you'll need a 10x probe with them,and have to back-pin the connectors.
--
Jim Yanik
jyanik
at
kua.net
news:Xns97A1DF09467A2tegger@207.14.113.17:
> Jim Yanik <jyanik@abuse.gov> wrote in
> news:Xns97A1D2ACF6A7Cjyanikkuanet@129.250.170.85:
>
>> "TeGGeR®" <tegger@tegger.c0m> wrote in
>> news:Xns97A1CF22FDD4Dtegger@207.14.113.17:
>>
>>> "'Curly Q. Links'" <motsco__@interbaun.com> wrote in
>>> news:4439EE0B.5253362@interbaun.com:
>>>
>>>
>>>>
>>>> I meant what I said in the subject line . . . They have to be
>>>> 'scoped'. OBDII can't be trusted to catch a sensor that's just
>>>> running SLOW. A digital multimeter won't show that at all. If you
>>>> haven't noticed by now, I'm a penny pincher. If anything, I'd use the
>>>> BOIL IT IN LIME-AWAY cure before I'd BUY a new O2 sensor, but I'll be
>>>> scoping it all before and after.
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> Just fishing here, but where's a good place to pick up a scope for
>>> not-too- much money?
>>>
>>
>> What's "too much money"?
>> Ebay would be my 1st choice.
>
>
>
> I see five of them on eBay right now, ranging from $50 to $300.
>
> Don't know anything about scopes, so I think I'd have to do some larnin'
> afore I buys one.
>
>
>
>> I'd look for an LCD scope for automotive applications.
>> Tektronix (#1 scope maker)used to make one,5Mhz bandwidth,handheld,THM-
>> something was the model,also sold under a automotive tool makers badge.
>> (sorry,I'm too feeble to recall the exact company) ;-)
>>
>> I'll try to look into it further;if I find something,I'll post it here.
>>
>
>
>
> Any advice would be nice.
>
For an AC-mains powered scope,a TEK 2213,2215,or "A" versions are good TEK
scopes.~$100-250
The TEK TDS210,TDS 220 are nice LCD digital bench scopes(AC line
powered).originally cost $1000,should go for $200-300 IMO.
They will be more in demand,though.(newer)
They should run off a 100W pseudo-sine wave inverter,too.
A TEK T-922,T-932,or T-935 would be a good low-cost(no more than$100)AC
line-powered scope.
you'll need a 10x probe with them,and have to back-pin the connectors.
--
Jim Yanik
jyanik
at
kua.net
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Re: ___ O2 sensors have to be 'scoped'
"TeGGeR®" <tegger@tegger.c0m> wrote in
news:Xns97A1DF09467A2tegger@207.14.113.17:
> Jim Yanik <jyanik@abuse.gov> wrote in
> news:Xns97A1D2ACF6A7Cjyanikkuanet@129.250.170.85:
>
>> "TeGGeR®" <tegger@tegger.c0m> wrote in
>> news:Xns97A1CF22FDD4Dtegger@207.14.113.17:
>>
>>> "'Curly Q. Links'" <motsco__@interbaun.com> wrote in
>>> news:4439EE0B.5253362@interbaun.com:
>>>
>>>
>>>>
>>>> I meant what I said in the subject line . . . They have to be
>>>> 'scoped'. OBDII can't be trusted to catch a sensor that's just
>>>> running SLOW. A digital multimeter won't show that at all. If you
>>>> haven't noticed by now, I'm a penny pincher. If anything, I'd use the
>>>> BOIL IT IN LIME-AWAY cure before I'd BUY a new O2 sensor, but I'll be
>>>> scoping it all before and after.
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> Just fishing here, but where's a good place to pick up a scope for
>>> not-too- much money?
>>>
>>
>> What's "too much money"?
>> Ebay would be my 1st choice.
>
>
>
> I see five of them on eBay right now, ranging from $50 to $300.
>
> Don't know anything about scopes, so I think I'd have to do some larnin'
> afore I buys one.
>
>
>
>> I'd look for an LCD scope for automotive applications.
>> Tektronix (#1 scope maker)used to make one,5Mhz bandwidth,handheld,THM-
>> something was the model,also sold under a automotive tool makers badge.
>> (sorry,I'm too feeble to recall the exact company) ;-)
>>
>> I'll try to look into it further;if I find something,I'll post it here.
>>
>
>
>
> Any advice would be nice.
>
this is what you really want,if you can find one;
http://www.tektronix.com/Measurement/cgi-
bin/framed.pl?Document=/Measurement/Products/catalog/archive/ca-
THM560/index.html&FrameSet=other
Sorry for the wrap-around.You can search for THM-560,that's the model
number.
--
Jim Yanik
jyanik
at
kua.net
news:Xns97A1DF09467A2tegger@207.14.113.17:
> Jim Yanik <jyanik@abuse.gov> wrote in
> news:Xns97A1D2ACF6A7Cjyanikkuanet@129.250.170.85:
>
>> "TeGGeR®" <tegger@tegger.c0m> wrote in
>> news:Xns97A1CF22FDD4Dtegger@207.14.113.17:
>>
>>> "'Curly Q. Links'" <motsco__@interbaun.com> wrote in
>>> news:4439EE0B.5253362@interbaun.com:
>>>
>>>
>>>>
>>>> I meant what I said in the subject line . . . They have to be
>>>> 'scoped'. OBDII can't be trusted to catch a sensor that's just
>>>> running SLOW. A digital multimeter won't show that at all. If you
>>>> haven't noticed by now, I'm a penny pincher. If anything, I'd use the
>>>> BOIL IT IN LIME-AWAY cure before I'd BUY a new O2 sensor, but I'll be
>>>> scoping it all before and after.
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> Just fishing here, but where's a good place to pick up a scope for
>>> not-too- much money?
>>>
>>
>> What's "too much money"?
>> Ebay would be my 1st choice.
>
>
>
> I see five of them on eBay right now, ranging from $50 to $300.
>
> Don't know anything about scopes, so I think I'd have to do some larnin'
> afore I buys one.
>
>
>
>> I'd look for an LCD scope for automotive applications.
>> Tektronix (#1 scope maker)used to make one,5Mhz bandwidth,handheld,THM-
>> something was the model,also sold under a automotive tool makers badge.
>> (sorry,I'm too feeble to recall the exact company) ;-)
>>
>> I'll try to look into it further;if I find something,I'll post it here.
>>
>
>
>
> Any advice would be nice.
>
this is what you really want,if you can find one;
http://www.tektronix.com/Measurement/cgi-
bin/framed.pl?Document=/Measurement/Products/catalog/archive/ca-
THM560/index.html&FrameSet=other
Sorry for the wrap-around.You can search for THM-560,that's the model
number.
--
Jim Yanik
jyanik
at
kua.net
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Re: ___ O2 sensors have to be 'scoped'
"TeGGeR®" <tegger@tegger.c0m> wrote in
news:Xns97A1DF09467A2tegger@207.14.113.17:
> Jim Yanik <jyanik@abuse.gov> wrote in
> news:Xns97A1D2ACF6A7Cjyanikkuanet@129.250.170.85:
>
>> "TeGGeR®" <tegger@tegger.c0m> wrote in
>> news:Xns97A1CF22FDD4Dtegger@207.14.113.17:
>>
>>> "'Curly Q. Links'" <motsco__@interbaun.com> wrote in
>>> news:4439EE0B.5253362@interbaun.com:
>>>
>>>
>>>>
>>>> I meant what I said in the subject line . . . They have to be
>>>> 'scoped'. OBDII can't be trusted to catch a sensor that's just
>>>> running SLOW. A digital multimeter won't show that at all. If you
>>>> haven't noticed by now, I'm a penny pincher. If anything, I'd use the
>>>> BOIL IT IN LIME-AWAY cure before I'd BUY a new O2 sensor, but I'll be
>>>> scoping it all before and after.
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> Just fishing here, but where's a good place to pick up a scope for
>>> not-too- much money?
>>>
>>
>> What's "too much money"?
>> Ebay would be my 1st choice.
>
>
>
> I see five of them on eBay right now, ranging from $50 to $300.
>
> Don't know anything about scopes, so I think I'd have to do some larnin'
> afore I buys one.
>
>
>
>> I'd look for an LCD scope for automotive applications.
>> Tektronix (#1 scope maker)used to make one,5Mhz bandwidth,handheld,THM-
>> something was the model,also sold under a automotive tool makers badge.
>> (sorry,I'm too feeble to recall the exact company) ;-)
>>
>> I'll try to look into it further;if I find something,I'll post it here.
>>
>
>
>
> Any advice would be nice.
>
this is what you really want,if you can find one;
http://www.tektronix.com/Measurement/cgi-
bin/framed.pl?Document=/Measurement/Products/catalog/archive/ca-
THM560/index.html&FrameSet=other
Sorry for the wrap-around.You can search for THM-560,that's the model
number.
--
Jim Yanik
jyanik
at
kua.net
news:Xns97A1DF09467A2tegger@207.14.113.17:
> Jim Yanik <jyanik@abuse.gov> wrote in
> news:Xns97A1D2ACF6A7Cjyanikkuanet@129.250.170.85:
>
>> "TeGGeR®" <tegger@tegger.c0m> wrote in
>> news:Xns97A1CF22FDD4Dtegger@207.14.113.17:
>>
>>> "'Curly Q. Links'" <motsco__@interbaun.com> wrote in
>>> news:4439EE0B.5253362@interbaun.com:
>>>
>>>
>>>>
>>>> I meant what I said in the subject line . . . They have to be
>>>> 'scoped'. OBDII can't be trusted to catch a sensor that's just
>>>> running SLOW. A digital multimeter won't show that at all. If you
>>>> haven't noticed by now, I'm a penny pincher. If anything, I'd use the
>>>> BOIL IT IN LIME-AWAY cure before I'd BUY a new O2 sensor, but I'll be
>>>> scoping it all before and after.
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> Just fishing here, but where's a good place to pick up a scope for
>>> not-too- much money?
>>>
>>
>> What's "too much money"?
>> Ebay would be my 1st choice.
>
>
>
> I see five of them on eBay right now, ranging from $50 to $300.
>
> Don't know anything about scopes, so I think I'd have to do some larnin'
> afore I buys one.
>
>
>
>> I'd look for an LCD scope for automotive applications.
>> Tektronix (#1 scope maker)used to make one,5Mhz bandwidth,handheld,THM-
>> something was the model,also sold under a automotive tool makers badge.
>> (sorry,I'm too feeble to recall the exact company) ;-)
>>
>> I'll try to look into it further;if I find something,I'll post it here.
>>
>
>
>
> Any advice would be nice.
>
this is what you really want,if you can find one;
http://www.tektronix.com/Measurement/cgi-
bin/framed.pl?Document=/Measurement/Products/catalog/archive/ca-
THM560/index.html&FrameSet=other
Sorry for the wrap-around.You can search for THM-560,that's the model
number.
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Re: ___ O2 sensors have to be 'scoped'
"TeGGeR®" <tegger@tegger.c0m> wrote in
news:Xns97A1DF09467A2tegger@207.14.113.17:
> Jim Yanik <jyanik@abuse.gov> wrote in
> news:Xns97A1D2ACF6A7Cjyanikkuanet@129.250.170.85:
>
>> "TeGGeR®" <tegger@tegger.c0m> wrote in
>> news:Xns97A1CF22FDD4Dtegger@207.14.113.17:
>>
>>> "'Curly Q. Links'" <motsco__@interbaun.com> wrote in
>>> news:4439EE0B.5253362@interbaun.com:
>>>
>>>
>>>>
>>>> I meant what I said in the subject line . . . They have to be
>>>> 'scoped'. OBDII can't be trusted to catch a sensor that's just
>>>> running SLOW. A digital multimeter won't show that at all. If you
>>>> haven't noticed by now, I'm a penny pincher. If anything, I'd use the
>>>> BOIL IT IN LIME-AWAY cure before I'd BUY a new O2 sensor, but I'll be
>>>> scoping it all before and after.
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> Just fishing here, but where's a good place to pick up a scope for
>>> not-too- much money?
>>>
>>
>> What's "too much money"?
>> Ebay would be my 1st choice.
>
>
>
> I see five of them on eBay right now, ranging from $50 to $300.
>
> Don't know anything about scopes, so I think I'd have to do some larnin'
> afore I buys one.
>
>
>
>> I'd look for an LCD scope for automotive applications.
>> Tektronix (#1 scope maker)used to make one,5Mhz bandwidth,handheld,THM-
>> something was the model,also sold under a automotive tool makers badge.
>> (sorry,I'm too feeble to recall the exact company) ;-)
>>
>> I'll try to look into it further;if I find something,I'll post it here.
>>
>
>
>
> Any advice would be nice.
>
http://www.used-line.com/c5250998s41...nix_THM560.htm
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at
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news:Xns97A1DF09467A2tegger@207.14.113.17:
> Jim Yanik <jyanik@abuse.gov> wrote in
> news:Xns97A1D2ACF6A7Cjyanikkuanet@129.250.170.85:
>
>> "TeGGeR®" <tegger@tegger.c0m> wrote in
>> news:Xns97A1CF22FDD4Dtegger@207.14.113.17:
>>
>>> "'Curly Q. Links'" <motsco__@interbaun.com> wrote in
>>> news:4439EE0B.5253362@interbaun.com:
>>>
>>>
>>>>
>>>> I meant what I said in the subject line . . . They have to be
>>>> 'scoped'. OBDII can't be trusted to catch a sensor that's just
>>>> running SLOW. A digital multimeter won't show that at all. If you
>>>> haven't noticed by now, I'm a penny pincher. If anything, I'd use the
>>>> BOIL IT IN LIME-AWAY cure before I'd BUY a new O2 sensor, but I'll be
>>>> scoping it all before and after.
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> Just fishing here, but where's a good place to pick up a scope for
>>> not-too- much money?
>>>
>>
>> What's "too much money"?
>> Ebay would be my 1st choice.
>
>
>
> I see five of them on eBay right now, ranging from $50 to $300.
>
> Don't know anything about scopes, so I think I'd have to do some larnin'
> afore I buys one.
>
>
>
>> I'd look for an LCD scope for automotive applications.
>> Tektronix (#1 scope maker)used to make one,5Mhz bandwidth,handheld,THM-
>> something was the model,also sold under a automotive tool makers badge.
>> (sorry,I'm too feeble to recall the exact company) ;-)
>>
>> I'll try to look into it further;if I find something,I'll post it here.
>>
>
>
>
> Any advice would be nice.
>
http://www.used-line.com/c5250998s41...nix_THM560.htm
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Re: ___ O2 sensors have to be 'scoped'
"TeGGeR®" <tegger@tegger.c0m> wrote in
news:Xns97A1DF09467A2tegger@207.14.113.17:
> Jim Yanik <jyanik@abuse.gov> wrote in
> news:Xns97A1D2ACF6A7Cjyanikkuanet@129.250.170.85:
>
>> "TeGGeR®" <tegger@tegger.c0m> wrote in
>> news:Xns97A1CF22FDD4Dtegger@207.14.113.17:
>>
>>> "'Curly Q. Links'" <motsco__@interbaun.com> wrote in
>>> news:4439EE0B.5253362@interbaun.com:
>>>
>>>
>>>>
>>>> I meant what I said in the subject line . . . They have to be
>>>> 'scoped'. OBDII can't be trusted to catch a sensor that's just
>>>> running SLOW. A digital multimeter won't show that at all. If you
>>>> haven't noticed by now, I'm a penny pincher. If anything, I'd use the
>>>> BOIL IT IN LIME-AWAY cure before I'd BUY a new O2 sensor, but I'll be
>>>> scoping it all before and after.
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> Just fishing here, but where's a good place to pick up a scope for
>>> not-too- much money?
>>>
>>
>> What's "too much money"?
>> Ebay would be my 1st choice.
>
>
>
> I see five of them on eBay right now, ranging from $50 to $300.
>
> Don't know anything about scopes, so I think I'd have to do some larnin'
> afore I buys one.
>
>
>
>> I'd look for an LCD scope for automotive applications.
>> Tektronix (#1 scope maker)used to make one,5Mhz bandwidth,handheld,THM-
>> something was the model,also sold under a automotive tool makers badge.
>> (sorry,I'm too feeble to recall the exact company) ;-)
>>
>> I'll try to look into it further;if I find something,I'll post it here.
>>
>
>
>
> Any advice would be nice.
>
http://www.used-line.com/c5250998s41...nix_THM560.htm
--
Jim Yanik
jyanik
at
kua.net
news:Xns97A1DF09467A2tegger@207.14.113.17:
> Jim Yanik <jyanik@abuse.gov> wrote in
> news:Xns97A1D2ACF6A7Cjyanikkuanet@129.250.170.85:
>
>> "TeGGeR®" <tegger@tegger.c0m> wrote in
>> news:Xns97A1CF22FDD4Dtegger@207.14.113.17:
>>
>>> "'Curly Q. Links'" <motsco__@interbaun.com> wrote in
>>> news:4439EE0B.5253362@interbaun.com:
>>>
>>>
>>>>
>>>> I meant what I said in the subject line . . . They have to be
>>>> 'scoped'. OBDII can't be trusted to catch a sensor that's just
>>>> running SLOW. A digital multimeter won't show that at all. If you
>>>> haven't noticed by now, I'm a penny pincher. If anything, I'd use the
>>>> BOIL IT IN LIME-AWAY cure before I'd BUY a new O2 sensor, but I'll be
>>>> scoping it all before and after.
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> Just fishing here, but where's a good place to pick up a scope for
>>> not-too- much money?
>>>
>>
>> What's "too much money"?
>> Ebay would be my 1st choice.
>
>
>
> I see five of them on eBay right now, ranging from $50 to $300.
>
> Don't know anything about scopes, so I think I'd have to do some larnin'
> afore I buys one.
>
>
>
>> I'd look for an LCD scope for automotive applications.
>> Tektronix (#1 scope maker)used to make one,5Mhz bandwidth,handheld,THM-
>> something was the model,also sold under a automotive tool makers badge.
>> (sorry,I'm too feeble to recall the exact company) ;-)
>>
>> I'll try to look into it further;if I find something,I'll post it here.
>>
>
>
>
> Any advice would be nice.
>
http://www.used-line.com/c5250998s41...nix_THM560.htm
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at
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Re: ___ O2 sensors have to be 'scoped'
Jim Yanik <jyanik@abuse.gov> wrote in
news:Xns97A1E2D14D9C0jyanikkuanet@129.250.170.84:
> "TeGGeR®" <tegger@tegger.c0m> wrote in
> news:Xns97A1DF09467A2tegger@207.14.113.17:
>
>> Jim Yanik <jyanik@abuse.gov> wrote in
>> news:Xns97A1D2ACF6A7Cjyanikkuanet@129.250.170.85:
>>
>>> "TeGGeR®" <tegger@tegger.c0m> wrote in
>>> news:Xns97A1CF22FDD4Dtegger@207.14.113.17:
>>>
>>>> "'Curly Q. Links'" <motsco__@interbaun.com> wrote in
>>>> news:4439EE0B.5253362@interbaun.com:
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> I meant what I said in the subject line . . . They have to be
>>>>> 'scoped'. OBDII can't be trusted to catch a sensor that's just
>>>>> running SLOW. A digital multimeter won't show that at all. If you
>>>>> haven't noticed by now, I'm a penny pincher. If anything, I'd use
>>>>> the BOIL IT IN LIME-AWAY cure before I'd BUY a new O2 sensor, but
>>>>> I'll be scoping it all before and after.
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> Just fishing here, but where's a good place to pick up a scope for
>>>> not-too- much money?
>>>>
>>>
>>> What's "too much money"?
>>> Ebay would be my 1st choice.
>>
>>
>>
>> I see five of them on eBay right now, ranging from $50 to $300.
>>
>> Don't know anything about scopes, so I think I'd have to do some
>> larnin' afore I buys one.
>>
>>
>>
>>> I'd look for an LCD scope for automotive applications.
>>> Tektronix (#1 scope maker)used to make one,5Mhz
>>> bandwidth,handheld,THM- something was the model,also sold under a
>>> automotive tool makers badge. (sorry,I'm too feeble to recall the
>>> exact company) ;-)
>>>
>>> I'll try to look into it further;if I find something,I'll post it
>>> here.
>>>
>>
>>
>>
>> Any advice would be nice.
>>
>
> For an AC-mains powered scope,a TEK 2213,2215,or "A" versions are good
> TEK scopes.~$100-250
> The TEK TDS210,TDS 220 are nice LCD digital bench scopes(AC line
> powered).originally cost $1000,should go for $200-300 IMO.
> They will be more in demand,though.(newer)
> They should run off a 100W pseudo-sine wave inverter,too.
>
> A TEK T-922,T-932,or T-935 would be a good low-cost(no more
> than$100)AC line-powered scope.
>
> you'll need a 10x probe with them,and have to back-pin the connectors.
>
>
Fluke makes some OK handheld scopes,too.
--
Jim Yanik
jyanik
at
kua.net
news:Xns97A1E2D14D9C0jyanikkuanet@129.250.170.84:
> "TeGGeR®" <tegger@tegger.c0m> wrote in
> news:Xns97A1DF09467A2tegger@207.14.113.17:
>
>> Jim Yanik <jyanik@abuse.gov> wrote in
>> news:Xns97A1D2ACF6A7Cjyanikkuanet@129.250.170.85:
>>
>>> "TeGGeR®" <tegger@tegger.c0m> wrote in
>>> news:Xns97A1CF22FDD4Dtegger@207.14.113.17:
>>>
>>>> "'Curly Q. Links'" <motsco__@interbaun.com> wrote in
>>>> news:4439EE0B.5253362@interbaun.com:
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> I meant what I said in the subject line . . . They have to be
>>>>> 'scoped'. OBDII can't be trusted to catch a sensor that's just
>>>>> running SLOW. A digital multimeter won't show that at all. If you
>>>>> haven't noticed by now, I'm a penny pincher. If anything, I'd use
>>>>> the BOIL IT IN LIME-AWAY cure before I'd BUY a new O2 sensor, but
>>>>> I'll be scoping it all before and after.
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> Just fishing here, but where's a good place to pick up a scope for
>>>> not-too- much money?
>>>>
>>>
>>> What's "too much money"?
>>> Ebay would be my 1st choice.
>>
>>
>>
>> I see five of them on eBay right now, ranging from $50 to $300.
>>
>> Don't know anything about scopes, so I think I'd have to do some
>> larnin' afore I buys one.
>>
>>
>>
>>> I'd look for an LCD scope for automotive applications.
>>> Tektronix (#1 scope maker)used to make one,5Mhz
>>> bandwidth,handheld,THM- something was the model,also sold under a
>>> automotive tool makers badge. (sorry,I'm too feeble to recall the
>>> exact company) ;-)
>>>
>>> I'll try to look into it further;if I find something,I'll post it
>>> here.
>>>
>>
>>
>>
>> Any advice would be nice.
>>
>
> For an AC-mains powered scope,a TEK 2213,2215,or "A" versions are good
> TEK scopes.~$100-250
> The TEK TDS210,TDS 220 are nice LCD digital bench scopes(AC line
> powered).originally cost $1000,should go for $200-300 IMO.
> They will be more in demand,though.(newer)
> They should run off a 100W pseudo-sine wave inverter,too.
>
> A TEK T-922,T-932,or T-935 would be a good low-cost(no more
> than$100)AC line-powered scope.
>
> you'll need a 10x probe with them,and have to back-pin the connectors.
>
>
Fluke makes some OK handheld scopes,too.
--
Jim Yanik
jyanik
at
kua.net
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Re: ___ O2 sensors have to be 'scoped'
Jim Yanik <jyanik@abuse.gov> wrote in
news:Xns97A1E2D14D9C0jyanikkuanet@129.250.170.84:
> "TeGGeR®" <tegger@tegger.c0m> wrote in
> news:Xns97A1DF09467A2tegger@207.14.113.17:
>
>> Jim Yanik <jyanik@abuse.gov> wrote in
>> news:Xns97A1D2ACF6A7Cjyanikkuanet@129.250.170.85:
>>
>>> "TeGGeR®" <tegger@tegger.c0m> wrote in
>>> news:Xns97A1CF22FDD4Dtegger@207.14.113.17:
>>>
>>>> "'Curly Q. Links'" <motsco__@interbaun.com> wrote in
>>>> news:4439EE0B.5253362@interbaun.com:
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> I meant what I said in the subject line . . . They have to be
>>>>> 'scoped'. OBDII can't be trusted to catch a sensor that's just
>>>>> running SLOW. A digital multimeter won't show that at all. If you
>>>>> haven't noticed by now, I'm a penny pincher. If anything, I'd use
>>>>> the BOIL IT IN LIME-AWAY cure before I'd BUY a new O2 sensor, but
>>>>> I'll be scoping it all before and after.
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> Just fishing here, but where's a good place to pick up a scope for
>>>> not-too- much money?
>>>>
>>>
>>> What's "too much money"?
>>> Ebay would be my 1st choice.
>>
>>
>>
>> I see five of them on eBay right now, ranging from $50 to $300.
>>
>> Don't know anything about scopes, so I think I'd have to do some
>> larnin' afore I buys one.
>>
>>
>>
>>> I'd look for an LCD scope for automotive applications.
>>> Tektronix (#1 scope maker)used to make one,5Mhz
>>> bandwidth,handheld,THM- something was the model,also sold under a
>>> automotive tool makers badge. (sorry,I'm too feeble to recall the
>>> exact company) ;-)
>>>
>>> I'll try to look into it further;if I find something,I'll post it
>>> here.
>>>
>>
>>
>>
>> Any advice would be nice.
>>
>
> For an AC-mains powered scope,a TEK 2213,2215,or "A" versions are good
> TEK scopes.~$100-250
> The TEK TDS210,TDS 220 are nice LCD digital bench scopes(AC line
> powered).originally cost $1000,should go for $200-300 IMO.
> They will be more in demand,though.(newer)
> They should run off a 100W pseudo-sine wave inverter,too.
>
> A TEK T-922,T-932,or T-935 would be a good low-cost(no more
> than$100)AC line-powered scope.
>
> you'll need a 10x probe with them,and have to back-pin the connectors.
>
>
Fluke makes some OK handheld scopes,too.
--
Jim Yanik
jyanik
at
kua.net
news:Xns97A1E2D14D9C0jyanikkuanet@129.250.170.84:
> "TeGGeR®" <tegger@tegger.c0m> wrote in
> news:Xns97A1DF09467A2tegger@207.14.113.17:
>
>> Jim Yanik <jyanik@abuse.gov> wrote in
>> news:Xns97A1D2ACF6A7Cjyanikkuanet@129.250.170.85:
>>
>>> "TeGGeR®" <tegger@tegger.c0m> wrote in
>>> news:Xns97A1CF22FDD4Dtegger@207.14.113.17:
>>>
>>>> "'Curly Q. Links'" <motsco__@interbaun.com> wrote in
>>>> news:4439EE0B.5253362@interbaun.com:
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> I meant what I said in the subject line . . . They have to be
>>>>> 'scoped'. OBDII can't be trusted to catch a sensor that's just
>>>>> running SLOW. A digital multimeter won't show that at all. If you
>>>>> haven't noticed by now, I'm a penny pincher. If anything, I'd use
>>>>> the BOIL IT IN LIME-AWAY cure before I'd BUY a new O2 sensor, but
>>>>> I'll be scoping it all before and after.
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> Just fishing here, but where's a good place to pick up a scope for
>>>> not-too- much money?
>>>>
>>>
>>> What's "too much money"?
>>> Ebay would be my 1st choice.
>>
>>
>>
>> I see five of them on eBay right now, ranging from $50 to $300.
>>
>> Don't know anything about scopes, so I think I'd have to do some
>> larnin' afore I buys one.
>>
>>
>>
>>> I'd look for an LCD scope for automotive applications.
>>> Tektronix (#1 scope maker)used to make one,5Mhz
>>> bandwidth,handheld,THM- something was the model,also sold under a
>>> automotive tool makers badge. (sorry,I'm too feeble to recall the
>>> exact company) ;-)
>>>
>>> I'll try to look into it further;if I find something,I'll post it
>>> here.
>>>
>>
>>
>>
>> Any advice would be nice.
>>
>
> For an AC-mains powered scope,a TEK 2213,2215,or "A" versions are good
> TEK scopes.~$100-250
> The TEK TDS210,TDS 220 are nice LCD digital bench scopes(AC line
> powered).originally cost $1000,should go for $200-300 IMO.
> They will be more in demand,though.(newer)
> They should run off a 100W pseudo-sine wave inverter,too.
>
> A TEK T-922,T-932,or T-935 would be a good low-cost(no more
> than$100)AC line-powered scope.
>
> you'll need a 10x probe with them,and have to back-pin the connectors.
>
>
Fluke makes some OK handheld scopes,too.
--
Jim Yanik
jyanik
at
kua.net
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