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MHolland 11-14-2003 08:55 PM

Alternator Output
 
I bought a '92 Civic in August. Within a week the battery died. Since then I
have replaced the computer, and the distributor. Today my daughter drove it
to work. When she tried to drive it home the engine would not crank. I
jumped it, and it started right up. After disconnecting the jumper cables I
checked the voltage at the Civic's battery terminals with a voltage meter
and it read 14.2 volts. When driving it home I heard a high pitch whine that
seemed to come from under the hood. I took it to Autozone and had the
charging system checked. They said the alternator was putting out 62 amps at
2000 rpm and 35 at idle. I think that should be good enough to keep the
battery charged. Here in Arizona batteries are usually failing because of
heat (bad cells). This acts like a bad cell to me.

Thanks



Tony Hwang 11-14-2003 10:01 PM

Re: Alternator Output
 
Hi,
Make sure you have good main ground connection from battery/alternator
to car chassis. Hot weather is harder on batteries than cold climate.
I live in Alberta. Used to go down to PHX a lot. (retired from
Honeywell). Once I suffered a bad battery on a new rental car. Battery
literally boiled over.
Tony

MHolland wrote:

> I bought a '92 Civic in August. Within a week the battery died. Since then I
> have replaced the computer, and the distributor. Today my daughter drove it
> to work. When she tried to drive it home the engine would not crank. I
> jumped it, and it started right up. After disconnecting the jumper cables I
> checked the voltage at the Civic's battery terminals with a voltage meter
> and it read 14.2 volts. When driving it home I heard a high pitch whine that
> seemed to come from under the hood. I took it to Autozone and had the
> charging system checked. They said the alternator was putting out 62 amps at
> 2000 rpm and 35 at idle. I think that should be good enough to keep the
> battery charged. Here in Arizona batteries are usually failing because of
> heat (bad cells). This acts like a bad cell to me.
>
> Thanks
>
>



Tony Hwang 11-14-2003 10:01 PM

Re: Alternator Output
 
Hi,
Make sure you have good main ground connection from battery/alternator
to car chassis. Hot weather is harder on batteries than cold climate.
I live in Alberta. Used to go down to PHX a lot. (retired from
Honeywell). Once I suffered a bad battery on a new rental car. Battery
literally boiled over.
Tony

MHolland wrote:

> I bought a '92 Civic in August. Within a week the battery died. Since then I
> have replaced the computer, and the distributor. Today my daughter drove it
> to work. When she tried to drive it home the engine would not crank. I
> jumped it, and it started right up. After disconnecting the jumper cables I
> checked the voltage at the Civic's battery terminals with a voltage meter
> and it read 14.2 volts. When driving it home I heard a high pitch whine that
> seemed to come from under the hood. I took it to Autozone and had the
> charging system checked. They said the alternator was putting out 62 amps at
> 2000 rpm and 35 at idle. I think that should be good enough to keep the
> battery charged. Here in Arizona batteries are usually failing because of
> heat (bad cells). This acts like a bad cell to me.
>
> Thanks
>
>



Tony Hwang 11-14-2003 10:01 PM

Re: Alternator Output
 
Hi,
Make sure you have good main ground connection from battery/alternator
to car chassis. Hot weather is harder on batteries than cold climate.
I live in Alberta. Used to go down to PHX a lot. (retired from
Honeywell). Once I suffered a bad battery on a new rental car. Battery
literally boiled over.
Tony

MHolland wrote:

> I bought a '92 Civic in August. Within a week the battery died. Since then I
> have replaced the computer, and the distributor. Today my daughter drove it
> to work. When she tried to drive it home the engine would not crank. I
> jumped it, and it started right up. After disconnecting the jumper cables I
> checked the voltage at the Civic's battery terminals with a voltage meter
> and it read 14.2 volts. When driving it home I heard a high pitch whine that
> seemed to come from under the hood. I took it to Autozone and had the
> charging system checked. They said the alternator was putting out 62 amps at
> 2000 rpm and 35 at idle. I think that should be good enough to keep the
> battery charged. Here in Arizona batteries are usually failing because of
> heat (bad cells). This acts like a bad cell to me.
>
> Thanks
>
>



Tony Hwang 11-14-2003 10:01 PM

Re: Alternator Output
 
Hi,
Make sure you have good main ground connection from battery/alternator
to car chassis. Hot weather is harder on batteries than cold climate.
I live in Alberta. Used to go down to PHX a lot. (retired from
Honeywell). Once I suffered a bad battery on a new rental car. Battery
literally boiled over.
Tony

MHolland wrote:

> I bought a '92 Civic in August. Within a week the battery died. Since then I
> have replaced the computer, and the distributor. Today my daughter drove it
> to work. When she tried to drive it home the engine would not crank. I
> jumped it, and it started right up. After disconnecting the jumper cables I
> checked the voltage at the Civic's battery terminals with a voltage meter
> and it read 14.2 volts. When driving it home I heard a high pitch whine that
> seemed to come from under the hood. I took it to Autozone and had the
> charging system checked. They said the alternator was putting out 62 amps at
> 2000 rpm and 35 at idle. I think that should be good enough to keep the
> battery charged. Here in Arizona batteries are usually failing because of
> heat (bad cells). This acts like a bad cell to me.
>
> Thanks
>
>



MHolland 11-14-2003 11:20 PM

Re: Alternator Output
 
So 62 amps is ok?
"Tony Hwang" <dragon40@shaw.ca> wrote in message
news:cGgtb.393083$9l5.125757@pd7tw2no...
> Hi,
> Make sure you have good main ground connection from battery/alternator
> to car chassis. Hot weather is harder on batteries than cold climate.
> I live in Alberta. Used to go down to PHX a lot. (retired from
> Honeywell). Once I suffered a bad battery on a new rental car. Battery
> literally boiled over.
> Tony
>
> MHolland wrote:
>
> > I bought a '92 Civic in August. Within a week the battery died. Since

then I
> > have replaced the computer, and the distributor. Today my daughter drove

it
> > to work. When she tried to drive it home the engine would not crank. I
> > jumped it, and it started right up. After disconnecting the jumper

cables I
> > checked the voltage at the Civic's battery terminals with a voltage

meter
> > and it read 14.2 volts. When driving it home I heard a high pitch whine

that
> > seemed to come from under the hood. I took it to Autozone and had the
> > charging system checked. They said the alternator was putting out 62

amps at
> > 2000 rpm and 35 at idle. I think that should be good enough to keep the
> > battery charged. Here in Arizona batteries are usually failing because

of
> > heat (bad cells). This acts like a bad cell to me.
> >
> > Thanks
> >
> >

>




MHolland 11-14-2003 11:20 PM

Re: Alternator Output
 
So 62 amps is ok?
"Tony Hwang" <dragon40@shaw.ca> wrote in message
news:cGgtb.393083$9l5.125757@pd7tw2no...
> Hi,
> Make sure you have good main ground connection from battery/alternator
> to car chassis. Hot weather is harder on batteries than cold climate.
> I live in Alberta. Used to go down to PHX a lot. (retired from
> Honeywell). Once I suffered a bad battery on a new rental car. Battery
> literally boiled over.
> Tony
>
> MHolland wrote:
>
> > I bought a '92 Civic in August. Within a week the battery died. Since

then I
> > have replaced the computer, and the distributor. Today my daughter drove

it
> > to work. When she tried to drive it home the engine would not crank. I
> > jumped it, and it started right up. After disconnecting the jumper

cables I
> > checked the voltage at the Civic's battery terminals with a voltage

meter
> > and it read 14.2 volts. When driving it home I heard a high pitch whine

that
> > seemed to come from under the hood. I took it to Autozone and had the
> > charging system checked. They said the alternator was putting out 62

amps at
> > 2000 rpm and 35 at idle. I think that should be good enough to keep the
> > battery charged. Here in Arizona batteries are usually failing because

of
> > heat (bad cells). This acts like a bad cell to me.
> >
> > Thanks
> >
> >

>




MHolland 11-14-2003 11:20 PM

Re: Alternator Output
 
So 62 amps is ok?
"Tony Hwang" <dragon40@shaw.ca> wrote in message
news:cGgtb.393083$9l5.125757@pd7tw2no...
> Hi,
> Make sure you have good main ground connection from battery/alternator
> to car chassis. Hot weather is harder on batteries than cold climate.
> I live in Alberta. Used to go down to PHX a lot. (retired from
> Honeywell). Once I suffered a bad battery on a new rental car. Battery
> literally boiled over.
> Tony
>
> MHolland wrote:
>
> > I bought a '92 Civic in August. Within a week the battery died. Since

then I
> > have replaced the computer, and the distributor. Today my daughter drove

it
> > to work. When she tried to drive it home the engine would not crank. I
> > jumped it, and it started right up. After disconnecting the jumper

cables I
> > checked the voltage at the Civic's battery terminals with a voltage

meter
> > and it read 14.2 volts. When driving it home I heard a high pitch whine

that
> > seemed to come from under the hood. I took it to Autozone and had the
> > charging system checked. They said the alternator was putting out 62

amps at
> > 2000 rpm and 35 at idle. I think that should be good enough to keep the
> > battery charged. Here in Arizona batteries are usually failing because

of
> > heat (bad cells). This acts like a bad cell to me.
> >
> > Thanks
> >
> >

>




MHolland 11-14-2003 11:20 PM

Re: Alternator Output
 
So 62 amps is ok?
"Tony Hwang" <dragon40@shaw.ca> wrote in message
news:cGgtb.393083$9l5.125757@pd7tw2no...
> Hi,
> Make sure you have good main ground connection from battery/alternator
> to car chassis. Hot weather is harder on batteries than cold climate.
> I live in Alberta. Used to go down to PHX a lot. (retired from
> Honeywell). Once I suffered a bad battery on a new rental car. Battery
> literally boiled over.
> Tony
>
> MHolland wrote:
>
> > I bought a '92 Civic in August. Within a week the battery died. Since

then I
> > have replaced the computer, and the distributor. Today my daughter drove

it
> > to work. When she tried to drive it home the engine would not crank. I
> > jumped it, and it started right up. After disconnecting the jumper

cables I
> > checked the voltage at the Civic's battery terminals with a voltage

meter
> > and it read 14.2 volts. When driving it home I heard a high pitch whine

that
> > seemed to come from under the hood. I took it to Autozone and had the
> > charging system checked. They said the alternator was putting out 62

amps at
> > 2000 rpm and 35 at idle. I think that should be good enough to keep the
> > battery charged. Here in Arizona batteries are usually failing because

of
> > heat (bad cells). This acts like a bad cell to me.
> >
> > Thanks
> >
> >

>




Phillip Weston 11-15-2003 01:19 AM

Re: Alternator Output
 
On Sat, 15 Nov 2003 04:20:16 GMT, "MHolland"
<mhollandsprint@earthlink.net> scribbled:

>So 62 amps is ok?


It could be that the rectifier in the alternator itself is draining
the battery while it's parked. Mine did that. It put out 14.3V while
engine was idling, which was normal.

>"Tony Hwang" <dragon40@shaw.ca> wrote in message
>news:cGgtb.393083$9l5.125757@pd7tw2no...
>> Hi,
>> Make sure you have good main ground connection from battery/alternator
>> to car chassis. Hot weather is harder on batteries than cold climate.
>> I live in Alberta. Used to go down to PHX a lot. (retired from
>> Honeywell). Once I suffered a bad battery on a new rental car. Battery
>> literally boiled over.
>> Tony
>>
>> MHolland wrote:
>>
>> > I bought a '92 Civic in August. Within a week the battery died. Since

>then I
>> > have replaced the computer, and the distributor. Today my daughter drove

>it
>> > to work. When she tried to drive it home the engine would not crank. I
>> > jumped it, and it started right up. After disconnecting the jumper

>cables I
>> > checked the voltage at the Civic's battery terminals with a voltage

>meter
>> > and it read 14.2 volts. When driving it home I heard a high pitch whine

>that
>> > seemed to come from under the hood. I took it to Autozone and had the
>> > charging system checked. They said the alternator was putting out 62

>amps at
>> > 2000 rpm and 35 at idle. I think that should be good enough to keep the
>> > battery charged. Here in Arizona batteries are usually failing because

>of
>> > heat (bad cells). This acts like a bad cell to me.
>> >
>> > Thanks
>> >
>> >

>>

>


--
Phillip Weston
Taumarunui, New Zealand

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Phillip Weston 11-15-2003 01:19 AM

Re: Alternator Output
 
On Sat, 15 Nov 2003 04:20:16 GMT, "MHolland"
<mhollandsprint@earthlink.net> scribbled:

>So 62 amps is ok?


It could be that the rectifier in the alternator itself is draining
the battery while it's parked. Mine did that. It put out 14.3V while
engine was idling, which was normal.

>"Tony Hwang" <dragon40@shaw.ca> wrote in message
>news:cGgtb.393083$9l5.125757@pd7tw2no...
>> Hi,
>> Make sure you have good main ground connection from battery/alternator
>> to car chassis. Hot weather is harder on batteries than cold climate.
>> I live in Alberta. Used to go down to PHX a lot. (retired from
>> Honeywell). Once I suffered a bad battery on a new rental car. Battery
>> literally boiled over.
>> Tony
>>
>> MHolland wrote:
>>
>> > I bought a '92 Civic in August. Within a week the battery died. Since

>then I
>> > have replaced the computer, and the distributor. Today my daughter drove

>it
>> > to work. When she tried to drive it home the engine would not crank. I
>> > jumped it, and it started right up. After disconnecting the jumper

>cables I
>> > checked the voltage at the Civic's battery terminals with a voltage

>meter
>> > and it read 14.2 volts. When driving it home I heard a high pitch whine

>that
>> > seemed to come from under the hood. I took it to Autozone and had the
>> > charging system checked. They said the alternator was putting out 62

>amps at
>> > 2000 rpm and 35 at idle. I think that should be good enough to keep the
>> > battery charged. Here in Arizona batteries are usually failing because

>of
>> > heat (bad cells). This acts like a bad cell to me.
>> >
>> > Thanks
>> >
>> >

>>

>


--
Phillip Weston
Taumarunui, New Zealand

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Phillip Weston 11-15-2003 01:19 AM

Re: Alternator Output
 
On Sat, 15 Nov 2003 04:20:16 GMT, "MHolland"
<mhollandsprint@earthlink.net> scribbled:

>So 62 amps is ok?


It could be that the rectifier in the alternator itself is draining
the battery while it's parked. Mine did that. It put out 14.3V while
engine was idling, which was normal.

>"Tony Hwang" <dragon40@shaw.ca> wrote in message
>news:cGgtb.393083$9l5.125757@pd7tw2no...
>> Hi,
>> Make sure you have good main ground connection from battery/alternator
>> to car chassis. Hot weather is harder on batteries than cold climate.
>> I live in Alberta. Used to go down to PHX a lot. (retired from
>> Honeywell). Once I suffered a bad battery on a new rental car. Battery
>> literally boiled over.
>> Tony
>>
>> MHolland wrote:
>>
>> > I bought a '92 Civic in August. Within a week the battery died. Since

>then I
>> > have replaced the computer, and the distributor. Today my daughter drove

>it
>> > to work. When she tried to drive it home the engine would not crank. I
>> > jumped it, and it started right up. After disconnecting the jumper

>cables I
>> > checked the voltage at the Civic's battery terminals with a voltage

>meter
>> > and it read 14.2 volts. When driving it home I heard a high pitch whine

>that
>> > seemed to come from under the hood. I took it to Autozone and had the
>> > charging system checked. They said the alternator was putting out 62

>amps at
>> > 2000 rpm and 35 at idle. I think that should be good enough to keep the
>> > battery charged. Here in Arizona batteries are usually failing because

>of
>> > heat (bad cells). This acts like a bad cell to me.
>> >
>> > Thanks
>> >
>> >

>>

>


--
Phillip Weston
Taumarunui, New Zealand

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Phillip Weston 11-15-2003 01:19 AM

Re: Alternator Output
 
On Sat, 15 Nov 2003 04:20:16 GMT, "MHolland"
<mhollandsprint@earthlink.net> scribbled:

>So 62 amps is ok?


It could be that the rectifier in the alternator itself is draining
the battery while it's parked. Mine did that. It put out 14.3V while
engine was idling, which was normal.

>"Tony Hwang" <dragon40@shaw.ca> wrote in message
>news:cGgtb.393083$9l5.125757@pd7tw2no...
>> Hi,
>> Make sure you have good main ground connection from battery/alternator
>> to car chassis. Hot weather is harder on batteries than cold climate.
>> I live in Alberta. Used to go down to PHX a lot. (retired from
>> Honeywell). Once I suffered a bad battery on a new rental car. Battery
>> literally boiled over.
>> Tony
>>
>> MHolland wrote:
>>
>> > I bought a '92 Civic in August. Within a week the battery died. Since

>then I
>> > have replaced the computer, and the distributor. Today my daughter drove

>it
>> > to work. When she tried to drive it home the engine would not crank. I
>> > jumped it, and it started right up. After disconnecting the jumper

>cables I
>> > checked the voltage at the Civic's battery terminals with a voltage

>meter
>> > and it read 14.2 volts. When driving it home I heard a high pitch whine

>that
>> > seemed to come from under the hood. I took it to Autozone and had the
>> > charging system checked. They said the alternator was putting out 62

>amps at
>> > 2000 rpm and 35 at idle. I think that should be good enough to keep the
>> > battery charged. Here in Arizona batteries are usually failing because

>of
>> > heat (bad cells). This acts like a bad cell to me.
>> >
>> > Thanks
>> >
>> >

>>

>


--
Phillip Weston
Taumarunui, New Zealand

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Joe Cool 11-15-2003 01:43 AM

Re: Alternator Output
 
You need to isolate the problem to the battery or a drain on the system.

A. To check the battery for bad cells, have it load tested at AutoZone with
a resistive load. You can also pry off the inspection caps and measure the
voltage of each cell with your voltmeter. The cell that reads a lot lower is
the problem area.

B. To check for loads that drain the battery while parked, try removing the
fuses from the fuse block. See if the problem goes away. IF it does you need
to figure out which circuit is "stuck on" Look at the brake lights, glove
box light, etc. To see if the alternator is at fault, you will need to
disconnect the wires while parked and see it the battery stays charged with
your voltmeter.


Good luck.





"Phillip Weston" <phillip.weston@quicksilver.net.nz> wrote in message
news:r9hbrvok1fp8e4l2o4fm5t188ot8lifdf5@4ax.com...
> On Sat, 15 Nov 2003 04:20:16 GMT, "MHolland"
> <mhollandsprint@earthlink.net> scribbled:
>
> >So 62 amps is ok?

>
> It could be that the rectifier in the alternator itself is draining
> the battery while it's parked. Mine did that. It put out 14.3V while
> engine was idling, which was normal.
>
> >"Tony Hwang" <dragon40@shaw.ca> wrote in message
> >news:cGgtb.393083$9l5.125757@pd7tw2no...
> >> Hi,
> >> Make sure you have good main ground connection from battery/alternator
> >> to car chassis. Hot weather is harder on batteries than cold climate.
> >> I live in Alberta. Used to go down to PHX a lot. (retired from
> >> Honeywell). Once I suffered a bad battery on a new rental car. Battery
> >> literally boiled over.
> >> Tony
> >>
> >> MHolland wrote:
> >>
> >> > I bought a '92 Civic in August. Within a week the battery died. Since

> >then I
> >> > have replaced the computer, and the distributor. Today my daughter

drove
> >it
> >> > to work. When she tried to drive it home the engine would not crank.

I
> >> > jumped it, and it started right up. After disconnecting the jumper

> >cables I
> >> > checked the voltage at the Civic's battery terminals with a voltage

> >meter
> >> > and it read 14.2 volts. When driving it home I heard a high pitch

whine
> >that
> >> > seemed to come from under the hood. I took it to Autozone and had the
> >> > charging system checked. They said the alternator was putting out 62

> >amps at
> >> > 2000 rpm and 35 at idle. I think that should be good enough to keep

the
> >> > battery charged. Here in Arizona batteries are usually failing

because
> >of
> >> > heat (bad cells). This acts like a bad cell to me.
> >> >
> >> > Thanks
> >> >
> >> >
> >>

> >

>
> --
> Phillip Weston
> Taumarunui, New Zealand
>
> Remove the obvious spamblock to reply via e-mail.




Joe Cool 11-15-2003 01:43 AM

Re: Alternator Output
 
You need to isolate the problem to the battery or a drain on the system.

A. To check the battery for bad cells, have it load tested at AutoZone with
a resistive load. You can also pry off the inspection caps and measure the
voltage of each cell with your voltmeter. The cell that reads a lot lower is
the problem area.

B. To check for loads that drain the battery while parked, try removing the
fuses from the fuse block. See if the problem goes away. IF it does you need
to figure out which circuit is "stuck on" Look at the brake lights, glove
box light, etc. To see if the alternator is at fault, you will need to
disconnect the wires while parked and see it the battery stays charged with
your voltmeter.


Good luck.





"Phillip Weston" <phillip.weston@quicksilver.net.nz> wrote in message
news:r9hbrvok1fp8e4l2o4fm5t188ot8lifdf5@4ax.com...
> On Sat, 15 Nov 2003 04:20:16 GMT, "MHolland"
> <mhollandsprint@earthlink.net> scribbled:
>
> >So 62 amps is ok?

>
> It could be that the rectifier in the alternator itself is draining
> the battery while it's parked. Mine did that. It put out 14.3V while
> engine was idling, which was normal.
>
> >"Tony Hwang" <dragon40@shaw.ca> wrote in message
> >news:cGgtb.393083$9l5.125757@pd7tw2no...
> >> Hi,
> >> Make sure you have good main ground connection from battery/alternator
> >> to car chassis. Hot weather is harder on batteries than cold climate.
> >> I live in Alberta. Used to go down to PHX a lot. (retired from
> >> Honeywell). Once I suffered a bad battery on a new rental car. Battery
> >> literally boiled over.
> >> Tony
> >>
> >> MHolland wrote:
> >>
> >> > I bought a '92 Civic in August. Within a week the battery died. Since

> >then I
> >> > have replaced the computer, and the distributor. Today my daughter

drove
> >it
> >> > to work. When she tried to drive it home the engine would not crank.

I
> >> > jumped it, and it started right up. After disconnecting the jumper

> >cables I
> >> > checked the voltage at the Civic's battery terminals with a voltage

> >meter
> >> > and it read 14.2 volts. When driving it home I heard a high pitch

whine
> >that
> >> > seemed to come from under the hood. I took it to Autozone and had the
> >> > charging system checked. They said the alternator was putting out 62

> >amps at
> >> > 2000 rpm and 35 at idle. I think that should be good enough to keep

the
> >> > battery charged. Here in Arizona batteries are usually failing

because
> >of
> >> > heat (bad cells). This acts like a bad cell to me.
> >> >
> >> > Thanks
> >> >
> >> >
> >>

> >

>
> --
> Phillip Weston
> Taumarunui, New Zealand
>
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