Re: Alternator Output
You need to isolate the problem to the battery or a drain on the system.
A. To check the battery for bad cells, have it load tested at AutoZone with a resistive load. You can also pry off the inspection caps and measure the voltage of each cell with your voltmeter. The cell that reads a lot lower is the problem area. B. To check for loads that drain the battery while parked, try removing the fuses from the fuse block. See if the problem goes away. IF it does you need to figure out which circuit is "stuck on" Look at the brake lights, glove box light, etc. To see if the alternator is at fault, you will need to disconnect the wires while parked and see it the battery stays charged with your voltmeter. Good luck. "Phillip Weston" <phillip.weston@quicksilver.net.nz> wrote in message news:r9hbrvok1fp8e4l2o4fm5t188ot8lifdf5@4ax.com... > On Sat, 15 Nov 2003 04:20:16 GMT, "MHolland" > <mhollandsprint@earthlink.net> scribbled: > > >So 62 amps is ok? > > It could be that the rectifier in the alternator itself is draining > the battery while it's parked. Mine did that. It put out 14.3V while > engine was idling, which was normal. > > >"Tony Hwang" <dragon40@shaw.ca> wrote in message > >news:cGgtb.393083$9l5.125757@pd7tw2no... > >> Hi, > >> Make sure you have good main ground connection from battery/alternator > >> to car chassis. Hot weather is harder on batteries than cold climate. > >> I live in Alberta. Used to go down to PHX a lot. (retired from > >> Honeywell). Once I suffered a bad battery on a new rental car. Battery > >> literally boiled over. > >> Tony > >> > >> MHolland wrote: > >> > >> > I bought a '92 Civic in August. Within a week the battery died. Since > >then I > >> > have replaced the computer, and the distributor. Today my daughter drove > >it > >> > to work. When she tried to drive it home the engine would not crank. I > >> > jumped it, and it started right up. After disconnecting the jumper > >cables I > >> > checked the voltage at the Civic's battery terminals with a voltage > >meter > >> > and it read 14.2 volts. When driving it home I heard a high pitch whine > >that > >> > seemed to come from under the hood. I took it to Autozone and had the > >> > charging system checked. They said the alternator was putting out 62 > >amps at > >> > 2000 rpm and 35 at idle. I think that should be good enough to keep the > >> > battery charged. Here in Arizona batteries are usually failing because > >of > >> > heat (bad cells). This acts like a bad cell to me. > >> > > >> > Thanks > >> > > >> > > >> > > > > -- > Phillip Weston > Taumarunui, New Zealand > > Remove the obvious spamblock to reply via e-mail. |
Re: Alternator Output
You need to isolate the problem to the battery or a drain on the system.
A. To check the battery for bad cells, have it load tested at AutoZone with a resistive load. You can also pry off the inspection caps and measure the voltage of each cell with your voltmeter. The cell that reads a lot lower is the problem area. B. To check for loads that drain the battery while parked, try removing the fuses from the fuse block. See if the problem goes away. IF it does you need to figure out which circuit is "stuck on" Look at the brake lights, glove box light, etc. To see if the alternator is at fault, you will need to disconnect the wires while parked and see it the battery stays charged with your voltmeter. Good luck. "Phillip Weston" <phillip.weston@quicksilver.net.nz> wrote in message news:r9hbrvok1fp8e4l2o4fm5t188ot8lifdf5@4ax.com... > On Sat, 15 Nov 2003 04:20:16 GMT, "MHolland" > <mhollandsprint@earthlink.net> scribbled: > > >So 62 amps is ok? > > It could be that the rectifier in the alternator itself is draining > the battery while it's parked. Mine did that. It put out 14.3V while > engine was idling, which was normal. > > >"Tony Hwang" <dragon40@shaw.ca> wrote in message > >news:cGgtb.393083$9l5.125757@pd7tw2no... > >> Hi, > >> Make sure you have good main ground connection from battery/alternator > >> to car chassis. Hot weather is harder on batteries than cold climate. > >> I live in Alberta. Used to go down to PHX a lot. (retired from > >> Honeywell). Once I suffered a bad battery on a new rental car. Battery > >> literally boiled over. > >> Tony > >> > >> MHolland wrote: > >> > >> > I bought a '92 Civic in August. Within a week the battery died. Since > >then I > >> > have replaced the computer, and the distributor. Today my daughter drove > >it > >> > to work. When she tried to drive it home the engine would not crank. I > >> > jumped it, and it started right up. After disconnecting the jumper > >cables I > >> > checked the voltage at the Civic's battery terminals with a voltage > >meter > >> > and it read 14.2 volts. When driving it home I heard a high pitch whine > >that > >> > seemed to come from under the hood. I took it to Autozone and had the > >> > charging system checked. They said the alternator was putting out 62 > >amps at > >> > 2000 rpm and 35 at idle. I think that should be good enough to keep the > >> > battery charged. Here in Arizona batteries are usually failing because > >of > >> > heat (bad cells). This acts like a bad cell to me. > >> > > >> > Thanks > >> > > >> > > >> > > > > -- > Phillip Weston > Taumarunui, New Zealand > > Remove the obvious spamblock to reply via e-mail. |
Re: Alternator Output
MHolland wrote:
> > So 62 amps is ok? It sounds sufficient. The official spec for my '88 Civic is about 35 amps @ 2000 rpm when hot and about 45 amps @ 2000 rpm when cold. Eric |
Re: Alternator Output
MHolland wrote:
> > So 62 amps is ok? It sounds sufficient. The official spec for my '88 Civic is about 35 amps @ 2000 rpm when hot and about 45 amps @ 2000 rpm when cold. Eric |
Re: Alternator Output
MHolland wrote:
> > So 62 amps is ok? It sounds sufficient. The official spec for my '88 Civic is about 35 amps @ 2000 rpm when hot and about 45 amps @ 2000 rpm when cold. Eric |
Re: Alternator Output
MHolland wrote:
> > So 62 amps is ok? It sounds sufficient. The official spec for my '88 Civic is about 35 amps @ 2000 rpm when hot and about 45 amps @ 2000 rpm when cold. Eric |
Re: Alternator Output
Hi,
What is the alternator capacity? What is the voltage with engine shut off? Usually when charging system is acting up, radio in AM mode will show lots of whiny noise regarless of tuning dial position. Tony MHolland wrote: > So 62 amps is ok? > "Tony Hwang" <dragon40@shaw.ca> wrote in message > news:cGgtb.393083$9l5.125757@pd7tw2no... > >>Hi, >>Make sure you have good main ground connection from battery/alternator >>to car chassis. Hot weather is harder on batteries than cold climate. >>I live in Alberta. Used to go down to PHX a lot. (retired from >>Honeywell). Once I suffered a bad battery on a new rental car. Battery >>literally boiled over. >>Tony >> >>MHolland wrote: >> >> >>>I bought a '92 Civic in August. Within a week the battery died. Since > > then I > >>>have replaced the computer, and the distributor. Today my daughter drove > > it > >>>to work. When she tried to drive it home the engine would not crank. I >>>jumped it, and it started right up. After disconnecting the jumper > > cables I > >>>checked the voltage at the Civic's battery terminals with a voltage > > meter > >>>and it read 14.2 volts. When driving it home I heard a high pitch whine > > that > >>>seemed to come from under the hood. I took it to Autozone and had the >>>charging system checked. They said the alternator was putting out 62 > > amps at > >>>2000 rpm and 35 at idle. I think that should be good enough to keep the >>>battery charged. Here in Arizona batteries are usually failing because > > of > >>>heat (bad cells). This acts like a bad cell to me. >>> >>>Thanks >>> >>> >> > > |
Re: Alternator Output
Hi,
What is the alternator capacity? What is the voltage with engine shut off? Usually when charging system is acting up, radio in AM mode will show lots of whiny noise regarless of tuning dial position. Tony MHolland wrote: > So 62 amps is ok? > "Tony Hwang" <dragon40@shaw.ca> wrote in message > news:cGgtb.393083$9l5.125757@pd7tw2no... > >>Hi, >>Make sure you have good main ground connection from battery/alternator >>to car chassis. Hot weather is harder on batteries than cold climate. >>I live in Alberta. Used to go down to PHX a lot. (retired from >>Honeywell). Once I suffered a bad battery on a new rental car. Battery >>literally boiled over. >>Tony >> >>MHolland wrote: >> >> >>>I bought a '92 Civic in August. Within a week the battery died. Since > > then I > >>>have replaced the computer, and the distributor. Today my daughter drove > > it > >>>to work. When she tried to drive it home the engine would not crank. I >>>jumped it, and it started right up. After disconnecting the jumper > > cables I > >>>checked the voltage at the Civic's battery terminals with a voltage > > meter > >>>and it read 14.2 volts. When driving it home I heard a high pitch whine > > that > >>>seemed to come from under the hood. I took it to Autozone and had the >>>charging system checked. They said the alternator was putting out 62 > > amps at > >>>2000 rpm and 35 at idle. I think that should be good enough to keep the >>>battery charged. Here in Arizona batteries are usually failing because > > of > >>>heat (bad cells). This acts like a bad cell to me. >>> >>>Thanks >>> >>> >> > > |
Re: Alternator Output
Hi,
What is the alternator capacity? What is the voltage with engine shut off? Usually when charging system is acting up, radio in AM mode will show lots of whiny noise regarless of tuning dial position. Tony MHolland wrote: > So 62 amps is ok? > "Tony Hwang" <dragon40@shaw.ca> wrote in message > news:cGgtb.393083$9l5.125757@pd7tw2no... > >>Hi, >>Make sure you have good main ground connection from battery/alternator >>to car chassis. Hot weather is harder on batteries than cold climate. >>I live in Alberta. Used to go down to PHX a lot. (retired from >>Honeywell). Once I suffered a bad battery on a new rental car. Battery >>literally boiled over. >>Tony >> >>MHolland wrote: >> >> >>>I bought a '92 Civic in August. Within a week the battery died. Since > > then I > >>>have replaced the computer, and the distributor. Today my daughter drove > > it > >>>to work. When she tried to drive it home the engine would not crank. I >>>jumped it, and it started right up. After disconnecting the jumper > > cables I > >>>checked the voltage at the Civic's battery terminals with a voltage > > meter > >>>and it read 14.2 volts. When driving it home I heard a high pitch whine > > that > >>>seemed to come from under the hood. I took it to Autozone and had the >>>charging system checked. They said the alternator was putting out 62 > > amps at > >>>2000 rpm and 35 at idle. I think that should be good enough to keep the >>>battery charged. Here in Arizona batteries are usually failing because > > of > >>>heat (bad cells). This acts like a bad cell to me. >>> >>>Thanks >>> >>> >> > > |
Re: Alternator Output
Hi,
What is the alternator capacity? What is the voltage with engine shut off? Usually when charging system is acting up, radio in AM mode will show lots of whiny noise regarless of tuning dial position. Tony MHolland wrote: > So 62 amps is ok? > "Tony Hwang" <dragon40@shaw.ca> wrote in message > news:cGgtb.393083$9l5.125757@pd7tw2no... > >>Hi, >>Make sure you have good main ground connection from battery/alternator >>to car chassis. Hot weather is harder on batteries than cold climate. >>I live in Alberta. Used to go down to PHX a lot. (retired from >>Honeywell). Once I suffered a bad battery on a new rental car. Battery >>literally boiled over. >>Tony >> >>MHolland wrote: >> >> >>>I bought a '92 Civic in August. Within a week the battery died. Since > > then I > >>>have replaced the computer, and the distributor. Today my daughter drove > > it > >>>to work. When she tried to drive it home the engine would not crank. I >>>jumped it, and it started right up. After disconnecting the jumper > > cables I > >>>checked the voltage at the Civic's battery terminals with a voltage > > meter > >>>and it read 14.2 volts. When driving it home I heard a high pitch whine > > that > >>>seemed to come from under the hood. I took it to Autozone and had the >>>charging system checked. They said the alternator was putting out 62 > > amps at > >>>2000 rpm and 35 at idle. I think that should be good enough to keep the >>>battery charged. Here in Arizona batteries are usually failing because > > of > >>>heat (bad cells). This acts like a bad cell to me. >>> >>>Thanks >>> >>> >> > > |
Re: Alternator Output
Autozone load tested the battery I bought 3 months ago. A possible weak cell
appears to have been the problem. Thank You "Tony Hwang" <dragon40@shaw.ca> wrote in message news:9ektb.392503$6C4.193847@pd7tw1no... > Hi, > What is the alternator capacity? > What is the voltage with engine shut off? > Usually when charging system is acting up, radio in AM mode > will show lots of whiny noise regarless of tuning dial position. > Tony > > MHolland wrote: > > > So 62 amps is ok? > > "Tony Hwang" <dragon40@shaw.ca> wrote in message > > news:cGgtb.393083$9l5.125757@pd7tw2no... > > > >>Hi, > >>Make sure you have good main ground connection from battery/alternator > >>to car chassis. Hot weather is harder on batteries than cold climate. > >>I live in Alberta. Used to go down to PHX a lot. (retired from > >>Honeywell). Once I suffered a bad battery on a new rental car. Battery > >>literally boiled over. > >>Tony > >> > >>MHolland wrote: > >> > >> > >>>I bought a '92 Civic in August. Within a week the battery died. Since > > > > then I > > > >>>have replaced the computer, and the distributor. Today my daughter drove > > > > it > > > >>>to work. When she tried to drive it home the engine would not crank. I > >>>jumped it, and it started right up. After disconnecting the jumper > > > > cables I > > > >>>checked the voltage at the Civic's battery terminals with a voltage > > > > meter > > > >>>and it read 14.2 volts. When driving it home I heard a high pitch whine > > > > that > > > >>>seemed to come from under the hood. I took it to Autozone and had the > >>>charging system checked. They said the alternator was putting out 62 > > > > amps at > > > >>>2000 rpm and 35 at idle. I think that should be good enough to keep the > >>>battery charged. Here in Arizona batteries are usually failing because > > > > of > > > >>>heat (bad cells). This acts like a bad cell to me. > >>> > >>>Thanks > >>> > >>> > >> > > > > > |
Re: Alternator Output
Autozone load tested the battery I bought 3 months ago. A possible weak cell
appears to have been the problem. Thank You "Tony Hwang" <dragon40@shaw.ca> wrote in message news:9ektb.392503$6C4.193847@pd7tw1no... > Hi, > What is the alternator capacity? > What is the voltage with engine shut off? > Usually when charging system is acting up, radio in AM mode > will show lots of whiny noise regarless of tuning dial position. > Tony > > MHolland wrote: > > > So 62 amps is ok? > > "Tony Hwang" <dragon40@shaw.ca> wrote in message > > news:cGgtb.393083$9l5.125757@pd7tw2no... > > > >>Hi, > >>Make sure you have good main ground connection from battery/alternator > >>to car chassis. Hot weather is harder on batteries than cold climate. > >>I live in Alberta. Used to go down to PHX a lot. (retired from > >>Honeywell). Once I suffered a bad battery on a new rental car. Battery > >>literally boiled over. > >>Tony > >> > >>MHolland wrote: > >> > >> > >>>I bought a '92 Civic in August. Within a week the battery died. Since > > > > then I > > > >>>have replaced the computer, and the distributor. Today my daughter drove > > > > it > > > >>>to work. When she tried to drive it home the engine would not crank. I > >>>jumped it, and it started right up. After disconnecting the jumper > > > > cables I > > > >>>checked the voltage at the Civic's battery terminals with a voltage > > > > meter > > > >>>and it read 14.2 volts. When driving it home I heard a high pitch whine > > > > that > > > >>>seemed to come from under the hood. I took it to Autozone and had the > >>>charging system checked. They said the alternator was putting out 62 > > > > amps at > > > >>>2000 rpm and 35 at idle. I think that should be good enough to keep the > >>>battery charged. Here in Arizona batteries are usually failing because > > > > of > > > >>>heat (bad cells). This acts like a bad cell to me. > >>> > >>>Thanks > >>> > >>> > >> > > > > > |
Re: Alternator Output
Autozone load tested the battery I bought 3 months ago. A possible weak cell
appears to have been the problem. Thank You "Tony Hwang" <dragon40@shaw.ca> wrote in message news:9ektb.392503$6C4.193847@pd7tw1no... > Hi, > What is the alternator capacity? > What is the voltage with engine shut off? > Usually when charging system is acting up, radio in AM mode > will show lots of whiny noise regarless of tuning dial position. > Tony > > MHolland wrote: > > > So 62 amps is ok? > > "Tony Hwang" <dragon40@shaw.ca> wrote in message > > news:cGgtb.393083$9l5.125757@pd7tw2no... > > > >>Hi, > >>Make sure you have good main ground connection from battery/alternator > >>to car chassis. Hot weather is harder on batteries than cold climate. > >>I live in Alberta. Used to go down to PHX a lot. (retired from > >>Honeywell). Once I suffered a bad battery on a new rental car. Battery > >>literally boiled over. > >>Tony > >> > >>MHolland wrote: > >> > >> > >>>I bought a '92 Civic in August. Within a week the battery died. Since > > > > then I > > > >>>have replaced the computer, and the distributor. Today my daughter drove > > > > it > > > >>>to work. When she tried to drive it home the engine would not crank. I > >>>jumped it, and it started right up. After disconnecting the jumper > > > > cables I > > > >>>checked the voltage at the Civic's battery terminals with a voltage > > > > meter > > > >>>and it read 14.2 volts. When driving it home I heard a high pitch whine > > > > that > > > >>>seemed to come from under the hood. I took it to Autozone and had the > >>>charging system checked. They said the alternator was putting out 62 > > > > amps at > > > >>>2000 rpm and 35 at idle. I think that should be good enough to keep the > >>>battery charged. Here in Arizona batteries are usually failing because > > > > of > > > >>>heat (bad cells). This acts like a bad cell to me. > >>> > >>>Thanks > >>> > >>> > >> > > > > > |
Re: Alternator Output
Autozone load tested the battery I bought 3 months ago. A possible weak cell
appears to have been the problem. Thank You "Tony Hwang" <dragon40@shaw.ca> wrote in message news:9ektb.392503$6C4.193847@pd7tw1no... > Hi, > What is the alternator capacity? > What is the voltage with engine shut off? > Usually when charging system is acting up, radio in AM mode > will show lots of whiny noise regarless of tuning dial position. > Tony > > MHolland wrote: > > > So 62 amps is ok? > > "Tony Hwang" <dragon40@shaw.ca> wrote in message > > news:cGgtb.393083$9l5.125757@pd7tw2no... > > > >>Hi, > >>Make sure you have good main ground connection from battery/alternator > >>to car chassis. Hot weather is harder on batteries than cold climate. > >>I live in Alberta. Used to go down to PHX a lot. (retired from > >>Honeywell). Once I suffered a bad battery on a new rental car. Battery > >>literally boiled over. > >>Tony > >> > >>MHolland wrote: > >> > >> > >>>I bought a '92 Civic in August. Within a week the battery died. Since > > > > then I > > > >>>have replaced the computer, and the distributor. Today my daughter drove > > > > it > > > >>>to work. When she tried to drive it home the engine would not crank. I > >>>jumped it, and it started right up. After disconnecting the jumper > > > > cables I > > > >>>checked the voltage at the Civic's battery terminals with a voltage > > > > meter > > > >>>and it read 14.2 volts. When driving it home I heard a high pitch whine > > > > that > > > >>>seemed to come from under the hood. I took it to Autozone and had the > >>>charging system checked. They said the alternator was putting out 62 > > > > amps at > > > >>>2000 rpm and 35 at idle. I think that should be good enough to keep the > >>>battery charged. Here in Arizona batteries are usually failing because > > > > of > > > >>>heat (bad cells). This acts like a bad cell to me. > >>> > >>>Thanks > >>> > >>> > >> > > > > > |
Re: Alternator Output
MHolland.
Here is a suggestion on how to check for elect. system drain on battery. Simply disconnect the Neg. battery cable end and connect a test lamp between the two. Touch the post and cable end together while the test lamp is attached form one minute to reset the computer. Now move them apart and check to see if the lamp illuminates, if so begin disconnecting fuses till the light goes off. You will then know which circuit is causing you battery drain. If the lamp doesn't illuminate you have no electrical system draw, and it sound like the battery has a problem. Also charge battery and let sit over night disconnected from car. If it is weak or dead the next day you have an internal drain in the battery. Mike the mechanic "MHolland" <mhollandsprint@earthlink.net> wrote in message news:%Hftb.1149$n56.309@newsread1.news.pas.earthli nk.net... > I bought a '92 Civic in August. Within a week the battery died. Since then I > have replaced the computer, and the distributor. Today my daughter drove it > to work. When she tried to drive it home the engine would not crank. I > jumped it, and it started right up. After disconnecting the jumper cables I > checked the voltage at the Civic's battery terminals with a voltage meter > and it read 14.2 volts. When driving it home I heard a high pitch whine that > seemed to come from under the hood. I took it to Autozone and had the > charging system checked. They said the alternator was putting out 62 amps at > 2000 rpm and 35 at idle. I think that should be good enough to keep the > battery charged. Here in Arizona batteries are usually failing because of > heat (bad cells). This acts like a bad cell to me. > > Thanks > > |
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