Steve Lee

On 9 Jul 2004 16:09:00 -0700, chip@chipanddebby.com (Chip Stein)
wrote:


>> No ? damn!!!! I never read or even heard something like that
>> before. But what I don't get is, why would it fail when the fluid was
>> simply replaced? There were no cleaning solvents used either.
>>
>> The only thing the flushers do is "vacuum" out the old fluid and the
>> new and clean fluid goes in, meaning at no point is the transmission
>> every operated without any fluid present.
>>
>> Any idea as to what it was about the flushers that Honda deeded was
>> bad for their cars? thanks.
>
> if it's only a fluid exchange you're fine. most flushers use an
>additive that degrades the clutch packs. that's a problem. they may
>use just fluid but was there residual solvent from the last job??
> Chip

No, there was no last job since this is the first time I used a
TransTech on my car to do a tranny flush. And like I said above, I
made sure they didn't use any cleaning solvents or additives.

Steve Lee

On Fri, 09 Jul 2004 14:56:34 -0700, jim beam <nospam@example.net>
wrote:

>Steve Lee wrote:
>> On 8 Jul 2004 20:12:34 -0700, chip@chipanddebby.com (Chip Stein)
>> wrote:
>>
>>
>>>>I found a shop that used a machine called TransTech or T-Tech (?) that
>>>>flushes your ATF. I have a '03 Pilot and looks as though it uses
>>>>about the same amount of ATF as yours.
>>>>
>>>>I took about 12 qt with me to the shop (Honda's OEM ATF). The
>>>>technician filled the machine up with the new ATF and the machine then
>>>>was hooked up to the cooler line connections and sucked out the old
>>>>and dirty ATF and in went the new ATF.
>>>
>>> honda has had a service bulletin out for years that states that trns
>>>flushers are bad for them. a honda automatic is unique in design,
>>>there are no bands or planetary gears, it's all wet clutch packs.
>>>i've seen them fail due to flushers, hope you have better luck.
>>> Chip
>>
>>
>> No ? damn!!!! I never read or even heard something like that
>> before. But what I don't get is, why would it fail when the fluid was
>> simply replaced? There were no cleaning solvents used either.
>>
>> The only thing the flushers do is "vacuum" out the old fluid and the
>> new and clean fluid goes in, meaning at no point is the transmission
>> every operated without any fluid present.
>>
>> Any idea as to what it was about the flushers that Honda deeded was
>> bad for their cars? thanks.
>
>i'm guessing, but i'd say it's because they use a large quantity of
>fluid - so i doubt most operators flush & clean them very thoroughly
>between changes because it would get expensive. i'd therefore imagine
>the oil going into the transmission was not "pure" honda atf.

I brought Honda's OEM ATF with me to the tranny flushing place and saw
them pour the stuff into their TransTech machine though. Brought
15L/15.85qt with me and gave me back one 1L bottle of it.