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rynniki 08-22-2004 08:29 AM

belt squeal
 
we have a 94 civic the belt squeals a little but when you press the clutch
the squeal goes away, i am thinking its the idler pulley am i right or
wrong ?


motsco_ _ 08-22-2004 09:13 AM

Re: belt squeal
 
rynniki wrote:
> we have a 94 civic the belt squeals a little but when you press the clutch
> the squeal goes away, i am thinking its the idler pulley am i right or
> wrong ?
>



=================

The clutch is at the opposite end of the engine from the clutch, and the
engine spins the same speed whether the clutch is in or out, so it's
more likely the throwout bearing is squeeking against the fork, or it's
starting to sieze, and pushing the clutch in stops the noise.

It can happen at any mileage. Ever had the clutch adjusted?

'Curly'


motsco_ _ 08-22-2004 09:13 AM

Re: belt squeal
 
rynniki wrote:
> we have a 94 civic the belt squeals a little but when you press the clutch
> the squeal goes away, i am thinking its the idler pulley am i right or
> wrong ?
>



=================

The clutch is at the opposite end of the engine from the clutch, and the
engine spins the same speed whether the clutch is in or out, so it's
more likely the throwout bearing is squeeking against the fork, or it's
starting to sieze, and pushing the clutch in stops the noise.

It can happen at any mileage. Ever had the clutch adjusted?

'Curly'


rynniki 08-22-2004 06:07 PM

Re: belt squeal
 
the clutch is brand new, it was replaced in february.


rynniki 08-22-2004 06:07 PM

Re: belt squeal
 
the clutch is brand new, it was replaced in february.


Jason 08-22-2004 08:24 PM

Re: belt squeal
 
In article
<99bc894bc1d4d32e74aa501a210bc0cb@localhost.talkab outautos.com>, "rynniki"
<rynniki@wmconnect.com> wrote:

> we have a 94 civic the belt squeals a little but when you press the clutch
> the squeal goes away, i am thinking its the idler pulley am i right or
> wrong ?


It's probably one of the belts. I don't know whether they still make it
but it was once possible to buy some sort of chemical that could be
sprayed on belts to keep them from slipping. It was a sticky substance. If
they no longer make belt spray, the only solution is to adjust the
alternator or whatever else is the source of the problem. Some mechanics
have a special tool that can be used to make belts really tight.

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Jason 08-22-2004 08:24 PM

Re: belt squeal
 
In article
<99bc894bc1d4d32e74aa501a210bc0cb@localhost.talkab outautos.com>, "rynniki"
<rynniki@wmconnect.com> wrote:

> we have a 94 civic the belt squeals a little but when you press the clutch
> the squeal goes away, i am thinking its the idler pulley am i right or
> wrong ?


It's probably one of the belts. I don't know whether they still make it
but it was once possible to buy some sort of chemical that could be
sprayed on belts to keep them from slipping. It was a sticky substance. If
they no longer make belt spray, the only solution is to adjust the
alternator or whatever else is the source of the problem. Some mechanics
have a special tool that can be used to make belts really tight.

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Jeff Smith 08-22-2004 10:18 PM

Re: belt squeal
 
My 95 civic (62K miles) does the same thing with the clutch. if you push
the pedal in enough to take up the play in the pedal but not engage the
clutch itself - the noise will stop. (by the way the noise is more like a
chirping of sorts) I know for a fact this is the throwout bearing you
shouldn't necessarily replace the throwout bearing by itself because it is a
50 buck part on a 300+ dollar job due to labor. this bearing should always
be replaced when the clutch is replaced. if your clutch starts slipping
then you should replace everything. that's what im waiting for.


- Jeff



"Jason" <Jason@nospam.com> wrote in message
news:Jason-2208041724100001@pm1-broad-120.snlo.dialup.fix.net...
> In article
> <99bc894bc1d4d32e74aa501a210bc0cb@localhost.talkab outautos.com>, "rynniki"
> <rynniki@wmconnect.com> wrote:
>
> > we have a 94 civic the belt squeals a little but when you press the

clutch
> > the squeal goes away, i am thinking its the idler pulley am i right or
> > wrong ?

>
> It's probably one of the belts. I don't know whether they still make it
> but it was once possible to buy some sort of chemical that could be
> sprayed on belts to keep them from slipping. It was a sticky substance. If
> they no longer make belt spray, the only solution is to adjust the
> alternator or whatever else is the source of the problem. Some mechanics
> have a special tool that can be used to make belts really tight.
>
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Jeff Smith 08-22-2004 10:18 PM

Re: belt squeal
 
My 95 civic (62K miles) does the same thing with the clutch. if you push
the pedal in enough to take up the play in the pedal but not engage the
clutch itself - the noise will stop. (by the way the noise is more like a
chirping of sorts) I know for a fact this is the throwout bearing you
shouldn't necessarily replace the throwout bearing by itself because it is a
50 buck part on a 300+ dollar job due to labor. this bearing should always
be replaced when the clutch is replaced. if your clutch starts slipping
then you should replace everything. that's what im waiting for.


- Jeff



"Jason" <Jason@nospam.com> wrote in message
news:Jason-2208041724100001@pm1-broad-120.snlo.dialup.fix.net...
> In article
> <99bc894bc1d4d32e74aa501a210bc0cb@localhost.talkab outautos.com>, "rynniki"
> <rynniki@wmconnect.com> wrote:
>
> > we have a 94 civic the belt squeals a little but when you press the

clutch
> > the squeal goes away, i am thinking its the idler pulley am i right or
> > wrong ?

>
> It's probably one of the belts. I don't know whether they still make it
> but it was once possible to buy some sort of chemical that could be
> sprayed on belts to keep them from slipping. It was a sticky substance. If
> they no longer make belt spray, the only solution is to adjust the
> alternator or whatever else is the source of the problem. Some mechanics
> have a special tool that can be used to make belts really tight.
>
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rynniki 08-23-2004 08:40 AM

Re: belt squeal
 
the clutch was replaced in february this year,so should i be concerned or
can it wait a couple of months,the chirping comes and goes.also is it ok
to drive it around and all.


rynniki 08-23-2004 08:40 AM

Re: belt squeal
 
the clutch was replaced in february this year,so should i be concerned or
can it wait a couple of months,the chirping comes and goes.also is it ok
to drive it around and all.


Jason 08-23-2004 01:15 PM

Re: belt squeal
 
In article
<6787b136ff6d576436d83d28352be6c5@localhost.talkab outautos.com>, "rynniki"
<rynniki@wmconnect.com> wrote:

> the clutch was replaced in february this year,so should i be concerned or
> can it wait a couple of months,the chirping comes and goes.also is it ok
> to drive it around and all.


If you recently replaced the clutch and the source of the squeal is from
the clutch, an adjustment of the clutch should solve the problem. I
mentioned in my last post that it could be from a lose belt--I should have
mentioned that you can do an easy test to see if a lose belt is the source
of the problem. You should open the hood.
One person should stand next to the car and watch and listen to the belts.
The other person should start the car. If the squeal is coming from the
belts, the person standing next to the car should hear it and even be able
identify which belt is slipping.

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Jason 08-23-2004 01:15 PM

Re: belt squeal
 
In article
<6787b136ff6d576436d83d28352be6c5@localhost.talkab outautos.com>, "rynniki"
<rynniki@wmconnect.com> wrote:

> the clutch was replaced in february this year,so should i be concerned or
> can it wait a couple of months,the chirping comes and goes.also is it ok
> to drive it around and all.


If you recently replaced the clutch and the source of the squeal is from
the clutch, an adjustment of the clutch should solve the problem. I
mentioned in my last post that it could be from a lose belt--I should have
mentioned that you can do an easy test to see if a lose belt is the source
of the problem. You should open the hood.
One person should stand next to the car and watch and listen to the belts.
The other person should start the car. If the squeal is coming from the
belts, the person standing next to the car should hear it and even be able
identify which belt is slipping.

--
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Jeff Smith 08-23-2004 08:04 PM

Re: belt squeal
 
well i know my chirping is from the throwout bearing and i still drive it
120 miles a day to work and back. as long as you clutch is still engaging
ok you are good to go aside from the anoying sound. dont take my word for
this as i am not a mechanic in any way - this is just what i have been told.



"Jason" <Jason@nospam.com> wrote in message
news:Jason-2308041015540001@pm4-broad-3.snlo.dialup.fix.net...
> In article
> <6787b136ff6d576436d83d28352be6c5@localhost.talkab outautos.com>, "rynniki"
> <rynniki@wmconnect.com> wrote:
>
> > the clutch was replaced in february this year,so should i be concerned

or
> > can it wait a couple of months,the chirping comes and goes.also is it ok
> > to drive it around and all.

>
> If you recently replaced the clutch and the source of the squeal is from
> the clutch, an adjustment of the clutch should solve the problem. I
> mentioned in my last post that it could be from a lose belt--I should have
> mentioned that you can do an easy test to see if a lose belt is the source
> of the problem. You should open the hood.
> One person should stand next to the car and watch and listen to the belts.
> The other person should start the car. If the squeal is coming from the
> belts, the person standing next to the car should hear it and even be able
> identify which belt is slipping.
>
> --
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> We respect those subscribers that ask for advice or provide advice.
> We do NOT respect the subscribers that enjoy criticizing people.
>
>
>




Jeff Smith 08-23-2004 08:04 PM

Re: belt squeal
 
well i know my chirping is from the throwout bearing and i still drive it
120 miles a day to work and back. as long as you clutch is still engaging
ok you are good to go aside from the anoying sound. dont take my word for
this as i am not a mechanic in any way - this is just what i have been told.



"Jason" <Jason@nospam.com> wrote in message
news:Jason-2308041015540001@pm4-broad-3.snlo.dialup.fix.net...
> In article
> <6787b136ff6d576436d83d28352be6c5@localhost.talkab outautos.com>, "rynniki"
> <rynniki@wmconnect.com> wrote:
>
> > the clutch was replaced in february this year,so should i be concerned

or
> > can it wait a couple of months,the chirping comes and goes.also is it ok
> > to drive it around and all.

>
> If you recently replaced the clutch and the source of the squeal is from
> the clutch, an adjustment of the clutch should solve the problem. I
> mentioned in my last post that it could be from a lose belt--I should have
> mentioned that you can do an easy test to see if a lose belt is the source
> of the problem. You should open the hood.
> One person should stand next to the car and watch and listen to the belts.
> The other person should start the car. If the squeal is coming from the
> belts, the person standing next to the car should hear it and even be able
> identify which belt is slipping.
>
> --
> NEWSGROUP SUBSCRIBERS MOTTO
> We respect those subscribers that ask for advice or provide advice.
> We do NOT respect the subscribers that enjoy criticizing people.
>
>
>





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