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HondaGurlll 06-02-2006 02:33 AM

Beware Honda Thiefs~
 
Hi my name is AsiaAnne and I live in the great Las Vegas Nevada area. We have
the highest rate in the state for stolen Honda's and they are usually the
1999 and younger Honda Accords which I have a 1997. I LOVE my car~I have deep
tinted windows~a bomb azz stereo systems~18' chrome rims with the expensive
low profile perellis but now since I've done all this work I see th people
just staring like "dayum" I want that~NOW~~~ I have bought the Viper alarm
system,the "club" for the steering wheel and also the new steering coluum
lock that is suppose to prevent people from stealing the car~I want to get a
"Low Jack" system on it but dayum that costs a lot of money so what do you
think? I say to myself "If they steal the car after all that shyt is on there
they deserve it"~I would feel so violated if someone stole her not to mention
I would feel like a total idiot~Any suggestions? Thanx alot :) ~AsiaAnne

Remco 06-02-2006 08:57 AM

Re: Beware Honda Thiefs~
 

HondaGurlll wrote:
> Hi my name is AsiaAnne and I live in the great Las Vegas Nevada area. We have
> the highest rate in the state for stolen Honda's and they are usually the
> 1999 and younger Honda Accords which I have a 1997. I LOVE my car~I have deep
> tinted windows~a bomb azz stereo systems~18' chrome rims with the expensive
> low profile perellis but now since I've done all this work I see th people
> just staring like "dayum" I want that~NOW~~~ I have bought the Viper alarm
> system,the "club" for the steering wheel and also the new steering coluum
> lock that is suppose to prevent people from stealing the car~I want to get a
> "Low Jack" system on it but dayum that costs a lot of money so what do you
> think? I say to myself "If they steal the car after all that shyt is on there
> they deserve it"~I would feel so violated if someone stole her not to mention
> I would feel like a total idiot~Any suggestions? Thanx alot :) ~AsiaAnne


I don't think you'll stop a professional thief, regardless of what you
add to your car. You're really just trying to stop the casual crack
head, joyrider or someone looking for parts to swap into his car.
Advertise the fact that you have an alarm. Put blinky LEDs in
conspicuous places so they'll move to the next car.
For instance, quite a few off the shelf alarm systems will disarm when
you disconnect them so all a thief has to do is open the door (not
caring about whether the alarm has been set off or not), open the hood,
disconnect the battery terminals, cut the horn, wait a second or two
and reconnect them. Most likely he'll be able to start your car after
that or at least find your alarm box and hotwire it.

If you are really worried, perhaps wire a simple hidden switch in
series with the power to your fuel pump - when off, the car will start
once and stall after less than a minute or so. Hide the switch
someplace a thief would not be looking for it (like in the trunk). When
you're going through your daily routine, leave the switch on - just
rely on your regular alarm system. When you park your car overnight or
someplace you are really worried about, turn the switch off.

Remco


Remco 06-02-2006 08:57 AM

Re: Beware Honda Thiefs~
 

HondaGurlll wrote:
> Hi my name is AsiaAnne and I live in the great Las Vegas Nevada area. We have
> the highest rate in the state for stolen Honda's and they are usually the
> 1999 and younger Honda Accords which I have a 1997. I LOVE my car~I have deep
> tinted windows~a bomb azz stereo systems~18' chrome rims with the expensive
> low profile perellis but now since I've done all this work I see th people
> just staring like "dayum" I want that~NOW~~~ I have bought the Viper alarm
> system,the "club" for the steering wheel and also the new steering coluum
> lock that is suppose to prevent people from stealing the car~I want to get a
> "Low Jack" system on it but dayum that costs a lot of money so what do you
> think? I say to myself "If they steal the car after all that shyt is on there
> they deserve it"~I would feel so violated if someone stole her not to mention
> I would feel like a total idiot~Any suggestions? Thanx alot :) ~AsiaAnne


I don't think you'll stop a professional thief, regardless of what you
add to your car. You're really just trying to stop the casual crack
head, joyrider or someone looking for parts to swap into his car.
Advertise the fact that you have an alarm. Put blinky LEDs in
conspicuous places so they'll move to the next car.
For instance, quite a few off the shelf alarm systems will disarm when
you disconnect them so all a thief has to do is open the door (not
caring about whether the alarm has been set off or not), open the hood,
disconnect the battery terminals, cut the horn, wait a second or two
and reconnect them. Most likely he'll be able to start your car after
that or at least find your alarm box and hotwire it.

If you are really worried, perhaps wire a simple hidden switch in
series with the power to your fuel pump - when off, the car will start
once and stall after less than a minute or so. Hide the switch
someplace a thief would not be looking for it (like in the trunk). When
you're going through your daily routine, leave the switch on - just
rely on your regular alarm system. When you park your car overnight or
someplace you are really worried about, turn the switch off.

Remco


Remco 06-02-2006 08:57 AM

Re: Beware Honda Thiefs~
 

HondaGurlll wrote:
> Hi my name is AsiaAnne and I live in the great Las Vegas Nevada area. We have
> the highest rate in the state for stolen Honda's and they are usually the
> 1999 and younger Honda Accords which I have a 1997. I LOVE my car~I have deep
> tinted windows~a bomb azz stereo systems~18' chrome rims with the expensive
> low profile perellis but now since I've done all this work I see th people
> just staring like "dayum" I want that~NOW~~~ I have bought the Viper alarm
> system,the "club" for the steering wheel and also the new steering coluum
> lock that is suppose to prevent people from stealing the car~I want to get a
> "Low Jack" system on it but dayum that costs a lot of money so what do you
> think? I say to myself "If they steal the car after all that shyt is on there
> they deserve it"~I would feel so violated if someone stole her not to mention
> I would feel like a total idiot~Any suggestions? Thanx alot :) ~AsiaAnne


I don't think you'll stop a professional thief, regardless of what you
add to your car. You're really just trying to stop the casual crack
head, joyrider or someone looking for parts to swap into his car.
Advertise the fact that you have an alarm. Put blinky LEDs in
conspicuous places so they'll move to the next car.
For instance, quite a few off the shelf alarm systems will disarm when
you disconnect them so all a thief has to do is open the door (not
caring about whether the alarm has been set off or not), open the hood,
disconnect the battery terminals, cut the horn, wait a second or two
and reconnect them. Most likely he'll be able to start your car after
that or at least find your alarm box and hotwire it.

If you are really worried, perhaps wire a simple hidden switch in
series with the power to your fuel pump - when off, the car will start
once and stall after less than a minute or so. Hide the switch
someplace a thief would not be looking for it (like in the trunk). When
you're going through your daily routine, leave the switch on - just
rely on your regular alarm system. When you park your car overnight or
someplace you are really worried about, turn the switch off.

Remco


rick++ 06-02-2006 11:07 AM

Re: Beware Honda Thiefs~
 
Its annoying on my insurance bill. If I select similar none Honda
model, it might be 10-15% cheaper.
In my state and generally in the USA Accords and Civics
both have the highest total and highest percent.
I'm guessing there much be good resale market for both
whole cars and parts. Souped up civics have been the
choice cars for informal street racing for some time.

When my 1990 Civic got long in the tooth, I noticed my key
opened other similar cars. Once in the while I'd accidently
go to nearby civic of the same shape, color and condition
and accidently enter it, just like that Southwest Airlines TV
commercial about mistaken cars. I'm guess whne the keys
and cylinders wear down enough they must become skeleton
keys. Or Honda sold very few key types.

Also the triple-AAA locksmith was able to jiggle open the lock
in less than a minute when I locked my keys inside.


rick++ 06-02-2006 11:07 AM

Re: Beware Honda Thiefs~
 
Its annoying on my insurance bill. If I select similar none Honda
model, it might be 10-15% cheaper.
In my state and generally in the USA Accords and Civics
both have the highest total and highest percent.
I'm guessing there much be good resale market for both
whole cars and parts. Souped up civics have been the
choice cars for informal street racing for some time.

When my 1990 Civic got long in the tooth, I noticed my key
opened other similar cars. Once in the while I'd accidently
go to nearby civic of the same shape, color and condition
and accidently enter it, just like that Southwest Airlines TV
commercial about mistaken cars. I'm guess whne the keys
and cylinders wear down enough they must become skeleton
keys. Or Honda sold very few key types.

Also the triple-AAA locksmith was able to jiggle open the lock
in less than a minute when I locked my keys inside.


rick++ 06-02-2006 11:07 AM

Re: Beware Honda Thiefs~
 
Its annoying on my insurance bill. If I select similar none Honda
model, it might be 10-15% cheaper.
In my state and generally in the USA Accords and Civics
both have the highest total and highest percent.
I'm guessing there much be good resale market for both
whole cars and parts. Souped up civics have been the
choice cars for informal street racing for some time.

When my 1990 Civic got long in the tooth, I noticed my key
opened other similar cars. Once in the while I'd accidently
go to nearby civic of the same shape, color and condition
and accidently enter it, just like that Southwest Airlines TV
commercial about mistaken cars. I'm guess whne the keys
and cylinders wear down enough they must become skeleton
keys. Or Honda sold very few key types.

Also the triple-AAA locksmith was able to jiggle open the lock
in less than a minute when I locked my keys inside.


Remco 06-02-2006 12:43 PM

Re: Beware Honda Thiefs~
 

rick++ wrote:
> Its annoying on my insurance bill. If I select similar none Honda
> model, it might be 10-15% cheaper.
> In my state and generally in the USA Accords and Civics
> both have the highest total and highest percent.
> I'm guessing there much be good resale market for both
> whole cars and parts. Souped up civics have been the
> choice cars for informal street racing for some time.
>
> When my 1990 Civic got long in the tooth, I noticed my key
> opened other similar cars. Once in the while I'd accidently
> go to nearby civic of the same shape, color and condition
> and accidently enter it, just like that Southwest Airlines TV
> commercial about mistaken cars. I'm guess whne the keys
> and cylinders wear down enough they must become skeleton
> keys. Or Honda sold very few key types.
>
> Also the triple-AAA locksmith was able to jiggle open the lock
> in less than a minute when I locked my keys inside.


You don't need a locksmith to get into most cars: visit a fleamarket
and buy a flatjack at one of the tool stands - this is basically a flat
piece springy steel with a hook on the end. It slips in between the
window and the rubber.
Practice on the cars you own and you'll be able to open up pretty much
any car in less than a minute.


Remco 06-02-2006 12:43 PM

Re: Beware Honda Thiefs~
 

rick++ wrote:
> Its annoying on my insurance bill. If I select similar none Honda
> model, it might be 10-15% cheaper.
> In my state and generally in the USA Accords and Civics
> both have the highest total and highest percent.
> I'm guessing there much be good resale market for both
> whole cars and parts. Souped up civics have been the
> choice cars for informal street racing for some time.
>
> When my 1990 Civic got long in the tooth, I noticed my key
> opened other similar cars. Once in the while I'd accidently
> go to nearby civic of the same shape, color and condition
> and accidently enter it, just like that Southwest Airlines TV
> commercial about mistaken cars. I'm guess whne the keys
> and cylinders wear down enough they must become skeleton
> keys. Or Honda sold very few key types.
>
> Also the triple-AAA locksmith was able to jiggle open the lock
> in less than a minute when I locked my keys inside.


You don't need a locksmith to get into most cars: visit a fleamarket
and buy a flatjack at one of the tool stands - this is basically a flat
piece springy steel with a hook on the end. It slips in between the
window and the rubber.
Practice on the cars you own and you'll be able to open up pretty much
any car in less than a minute.


Remco 06-02-2006 12:43 PM

Re: Beware Honda Thiefs~
 

rick++ wrote:
> Its annoying on my insurance bill. If I select similar none Honda
> model, it might be 10-15% cheaper.
> In my state and generally in the USA Accords and Civics
> both have the highest total and highest percent.
> I'm guessing there much be good resale market for both
> whole cars and parts. Souped up civics have been the
> choice cars for informal street racing for some time.
>
> When my 1990 Civic got long in the tooth, I noticed my key
> opened other similar cars. Once in the while I'd accidently
> go to nearby civic of the same shape, color and condition
> and accidently enter it, just like that Southwest Airlines TV
> commercial about mistaken cars. I'm guess whne the keys
> and cylinders wear down enough they must become skeleton
> keys. Or Honda sold very few key types.
>
> Also the triple-AAA locksmith was able to jiggle open the lock
> in less than a minute when I locked my keys inside.


You don't need a locksmith to get into most cars: visit a fleamarket
and buy a flatjack at one of the tool stands - this is basically a flat
piece springy steel with a hook on the end. It slips in between the
window and the rubber.
Practice on the cars you own and you'll be able to open up pretty much
any car in less than a minute.


Jim Yanik 06-02-2006 01:22 PM

Re: Beware Honda Thiefs~
 
"HondaGurlll" <u22565@uwe> wrote in news:61288a645e727@uwe:

> Hi my name is AsiaAnne and I live in the great Las Vegas Nevada area.
> We have the highest rate in the state for stolen Honda's and they are
> usually the 1999 and younger Honda Accords which I have a 1997. I LOVE
> my car~I have deep tinted windows~a bomb azz stereo systems~18' chrome
> rims with the expensive low profile perellis but now since I've done
> all this work I see th people just staring like "dayum" I want
> that~NOW~~~ I have bought the Viper alarm system,the "club" for the
> steering wheel and also the new steering coluum lock that is suppose
> to prevent people from stealing the car~I want to get a "Low Jack"
> system on it but dayum that costs a lot of money so what do you think?
> I say to myself "If they steal the car after all that shyt is on there
> they deserve it"~I would feel so violated if someone stole her not to
> mention I would feel like a total idiot~Any suggestions? Thanx alot :)
> ~AsiaAnne


I understand that the windows are a weak point for entry into your car,then
they tear apart the steering column to pop the ignition lock cylinder.It
happened to a neighbor of mine,and then they tried to steal my Integra.
My alarm alerted me and I went out there (armed) and chased them off.

IMO,getting a locking steering column collar will ward off most thieves.
I have not found one specifically for Honda/Acura,only for Toyotas.

--
Jim Yanik
jyanik
at
kua.net

Jim Yanik 06-02-2006 01:22 PM

Re: Beware Honda Thiefs~
 
"HondaGurlll" <u22565@uwe> wrote in news:61288a645e727@uwe:

> Hi my name is AsiaAnne and I live in the great Las Vegas Nevada area.
> We have the highest rate in the state for stolen Honda's and they are
> usually the 1999 and younger Honda Accords which I have a 1997. I LOVE
> my car~I have deep tinted windows~a bomb azz stereo systems~18' chrome
> rims with the expensive low profile perellis but now since I've done
> all this work I see th people just staring like "dayum" I want
> that~NOW~~~ I have bought the Viper alarm system,the "club" for the
> steering wheel and also the new steering coluum lock that is suppose
> to prevent people from stealing the car~I want to get a "Low Jack"
> system on it but dayum that costs a lot of money so what do you think?
> I say to myself "If they steal the car after all that shyt is on there
> they deserve it"~I would feel so violated if someone stole her not to
> mention I would feel like a total idiot~Any suggestions? Thanx alot :)
> ~AsiaAnne


I understand that the windows are a weak point for entry into your car,then
they tear apart the steering column to pop the ignition lock cylinder.It
happened to a neighbor of mine,and then they tried to steal my Integra.
My alarm alerted me and I went out there (armed) and chased them off.

IMO,getting a locking steering column collar will ward off most thieves.
I have not found one specifically for Honda/Acura,only for Toyotas.

--
Jim Yanik
jyanik
at
kua.net

Jim Yanik 06-02-2006 01:22 PM

Re: Beware Honda Thiefs~
 
"HondaGurlll" <u22565@uwe> wrote in news:61288a645e727@uwe:

> Hi my name is AsiaAnne and I live in the great Las Vegas Nevada area.
> We have the highest rate in the state for stolen Honda's and they are
> usually the 1999 and younger Honda Accords which I have a 1997. I LOVE
> my car~I have deep tinted windows~a bomb azz stereo systems~18' chrome
> rims with the expensive low profile perellis but now since I've done
> all this work I see th people just staring like "dayum" I want
> that~NOW~~~ I have bought the Viper alarm system,the "club" for the
> steering wheel and also the new steering coluum lock that is suppose
> to prevent people from stealing the car~I want to get a "Low Jack"
> system on it but dayum that costs a lot of money so what do you think?
> I say to myself "If they steal the car after all that shyt is on there
> they deserve it"~I would feel so violated if someone stole her not to
> mention I would feel like a total idiot~Any suggestions? Thanx alot :)
> ~AsiaAnne


I understand that the windows are a weak point for entry into your car,then
they tear apart the steering column to pop the ignition lock cylinder.It
happened to a neighbor of mine,and then they tried to steal my Integra.
My alarm alerted me and I went out there (armed) and chased them off.

IMO,getting a locking steering column collar will ward off most thieves.
I have not found one specifically for Honda/Acura,only for Toyotas.

--
Jim Yanik
jyanik
at
kua.net

Jim Yanik 06-02-2006 01:24 PM

Re: Beware Honda Thiefs~
 
"rick++" <rick303@hotmail.com> wrote in
news:1149260849.019826.90780@j55g2000cwa.googlegro ups.com:

> Its annoying on my insurance bill. If I select similar none Honda
> model, it might be 10-15% cheaper.
> In my state and generally in the USA Accords and Civics
> both have the highest total and highest percent.
> I'm guessing there much be good resale market for both
> whole cars and parts. Souped up civics have been the
> choice cars for informal street racing for some time.
>
> When my 1990 Civic got long in the tooth, I noticed my key
> opened other similar cars. Once in the while I'd accidently
> go to nearby civic of the same shape, color and condition
> and accidently enter it, just like that Southwest Airlines TV
> commercial about mistaken cars. I'm guess whne the keys
> and cylinders wear down enough they must become skeleton
> keys. Or Honda sold very few key types.
>
> Also the triple-AAA locksmith was able to jiggle open the lock
> in less than a minute when I locked my keys inside.
>
>


I read in the paper recently about auto thefts being done with ground-down
keys.They grind them very thin.

Then there's "slimjims".

--
Jim Yanik
jyanik
at
kua.net

Jim Yanik 06-02-2006 01:24 PM

Re: Beware Honda Thiefs~
 
"rick++" <rick303@hotmail.com> wrote in
news:1149260849.019826.90780@j55g2000cwa.googlegro ups.com:

> Its annoying on my insurance bill. If I select similar none Honda
> model, it might be 10-15% cheaper.
> In my state and generally in the USA Accords and Civics
> both have the highest total and highest percent.
> I'm guessing there much be good resale market for both
> whole cars and parts. Souped up civics have been the
> choice cars for informal street racing for some time.
>
> When my 1990 Civic got long in the tooth, I noticed my key
> opened other similar cars. Once in the while I'd accidently
> go to nearby civic of the same shape, color and condition
> and accidently enter it, just like that Southwest Airlines TV
> commercial about mistaken cars. I'm guess whne the keys
> and cylinders wear down enough they must become skeleton
> keys. Or Honda sold very few key types.
>
> Also the triple-AAA locksmith was able to jiggle open the lock
> in less than a minute when I locked my keys inside.
>
>


I read in the paper recently about auto thefts being done with ground-down
keys.They grind them very thin.

Then there's "slimjims".

--
Jim Yanik
jyanik
at
kua.net

Jim Yanik 06-02-2006 01:24 PM

Re: Beware Honda Thiefs~
 
"rick++" <rick303@hotmail.com> wrote in
news:1149260849.019826.90780@j55g2000cwa.googlegro ups.com:

> Its annoying on my insurance bill. If I select similar none Honda
> model, it might be 10-15% cheaper.
> In my state and generally in the USA Accords and Civics
> both have the highest total and highest percent.
> I'm guessing there much be good resale market for both
> whole cars and parts. Souped up civics have been the
> choice cars for informal street racing for some time.
>
> When my 1990 Civic got long in the tooth, I noticed my key
> opened other similar cars. Once in the while I'd accidently
> go to nearby civic of the same shape, color and condition
> and accidently enter it, just like that Southwest Airlines TV
> commercial about mistaken cars. I'm guess whne the keys
> and cylinders wear down enough they must become skeleton
> keys. Or Honda sold very few key types.
>
> Also the triple-AAA locksmith was able to jiggle open the lock
> in less than a minute when I locked my keys inside.
>
>


I read in the paper recently about auto thefts being done with ground-down
keys.They grind them very thin.

Then there's "slimjims".

--
Jim Yanik
jyanik
at
kua.net

Jim Yanik 06-02-2006 01:27 PM

Re: Beware Honda Thiefs~
 
"Remco" <whybcuz@yahoo.com> wrote in
news:1149266595.763410.319510@y43g2000cwc.googlegr oups.com:

>
> rick++ wrote:
>> Its annoying on my insurance bill. If I select similar none Honda
>> model, it might be 10-15% cheaper.
>> In my state and generally in the USA Accords and Civics
>> both have the highest total and highest percent.
>> I'm guessing there much be good resale market for both
>> whole cars and parts. Souped up civics have been the
>> choice cars for informal street racing for some time.
>>
>> When my 1990 Civic got long in the tooth, I noticed my key
>> opened other similar cars. Once in the while I'd accidently
>> go to nearby civic of the same shape, color and condition
>> and accidently enter it, just like that Southwest Airlines TV
>> commercial about mistaken cars. I'm guess whne the keys
>> and cylinders wear down enough they must become skeleton
>> keys. Or Honda sold very few key types.
>>
>> Also the triple-AAA locksmith was able to jiggle open the lock
>> in less than a minute when I locked my keys inside.

>
> You don't need a locksmith to get into most cars: visit a fleamarket
> and buy a flatjack at one of the tool stands - this is basically a flat
> piece springy steel with a hook on the end. It slips in between the
> window and the rubber.



Also called "slimjim".
I watched a locksmith use one,along with a thin wood wedge to hold the
window away from the door to keep from damaging the window or rubber trim.


> Practice on the cars you own and you'll be able to open up pretty much
> any car in less than a minute.
>
>


Of course,having one in your car is "possession of burglary tools" unless
you are a locksmith or repo man.

--
Jim Yanik
jyanik
at
kua.net

Jim Yanik 06-02-2006 01:27 PM

Re: Beware Honda Thiefs~
 
"Remco" <whybcuz@yahoo.com> wrote in
news:1149266595.763410.319510@y43g2000cwc.googlegr oups.com:

>
> rick++ wrote:
>> Its annoying on my insurance bill. If I select similar none Honda
>> model, it might be 10-15% cheaper.
>> In my state and generally in the USA Accords and Civics
>> both have the highest total and highest percent.
>> I'm guessing there much be good resale market for both
>> whole cars and parts. Souped up civics have been the
>> choice cars for informal street racing for some time.
>>
>> When my 1990 Civic got long in the tooth, I noticed my key
>> opened other similar cars. Once in the while I'd accidently
>> go to nearby civic of the same shape, color and condition
>> and accidently enter it, just like that Southwest Airlines TV
>> commercial about mistaken cars. I'm guess whne the keys
>> and cylinders wear down enough they must become skeleton
>> keys. Or Honda sold very few key types.
>>
>> Also the triple-AAA locksmith was able to jiggle open the lock
>> in less than a minute when I locked my keys inside.

>
> You don't need a locksmith to get into most cars: visit a fleamarket
> and buy a flatjack at one of the tool stands - this is basically a flat
> piece springy steel with a hook on the end. It slips in between the
> window and the rubber.



Also called "slimjim".
I watched a locksmith use one,along with a thin wood wedge to hold the
window away from the door to keep from damaging the window or rubber trim.


> Practice on the cars you own and you'll be able to open up pretty much
> any car in less than a minute.
>
>


Of course,having one in your car is "possession of burglary tools" unless
you are a locksmith or repo man.

--
Jim Yanik
jyanik
at
kua.net

Jim Yanik 06-02-2006 01:27 PM

Re: Beware Honda Thiefs~
 
"Remco" <whybcuz@yahoo.com> wrote in
news:1149266595.763410.319510@y43g2000cwc.googlegr oups.com:

>
> rick++ wrote:
>> Its annoying on my insurance bill. If I select similar none Honda
>> model, it might be 10-15% cheaper.
>> In my state and generally in the USA Accords and Civics
>> both have the highest total and highest percent.
>> I'm guessing there much be good resale market for both
>> whole cars and parts. Souped up civics have been the
>> choice cars for informal street racing for some time.
>>
>> When my 1990 Civic got long in the tooth, I noticed my key
>> opened other similar cars. Once in the while I'd accidently
>> go to nearby civic of the same shape, color and condition
>> and accidently enter it, just like that Southwest Airlines TV
>> commercial about mistaken cars. I'm guess whne the keys
>> and cylinders wear down enough they must become skeleton
>> keys. Or Honda sold very few key types.
>>
>> Also the triple-AAA locksmith was able to jiggle open the lock
>> in less than a minute when I locked my keys inside.

>
> You don't need a locksmith to get into most cars: visit a fleamarket
> and buy a flatjack at one of the tool stands - this is basically a flat
> piece springy steel with a hook on the end. It slips in between the
> window and the rubber.



Also called "slimjim".
I watched a locksmith use one,along with a thin wood wedge to hold the
window away from the door to keep from damaging the window or rubber trim.


> Practice on the cars you own and you'll be able to open up pretty much
> any car in less than a minute.
>
>


Of course,having one in your car is "possession of burglary tools" unless
you are a locksmith or repo man.

--
Jim Yanik
jyanik
at
kua.net

Remco 06-02-2006 01:55 PM

Re: Beware Honda Thiefs~
 

Jim Yanik wrote:
> "Remco" <whybcuz@yahoo.com> wrote in
> news:1149266595.763410.319510@y43g2000cwc.googlegr oups.com:
>
> >
> > rick++ wrote:
> >> Its annoying on my insurance bill. If I select similar none Honda
> >> model, it might be 10-15% cheaper.
> >> In my state and generally in the USA Accords and Civics
> >> both have the highest total and highest percent.
> >> I'm guessing there much be good resale market for both
> >> whole cars and parts. Souped up civics have been the
> >> choice cars for informal street racing for some time.
> >>
> >> When my 1990 Civic got long in the tooth, I noticed my key
> >> opened other similar cars. Once in the while I'd accidently
> >> go to nearby civic of the same shape, color and condition
> >> and accidently enter it, just like that Southwest Airlines TV
> >> commercial about mistaken cars. I'm guess whne the keys
> >> and cylinders wear down enough they must become skeleton
> >> keys. Or Honda sold very few key types.
> >>
> >> Also the triple-AAA locksmith was able to jiggle open the lock
> >> in less than a minute when I locked my keys inside.

> >
> > You don't need a locksmith to get into most cars: visit a fleamarket
> > and buy a flatjack at one of the tool stands - this is basically a flat
> > piece springy steel with a hook on the end. It slips in between the
> > window and the rubber.

>
>
> Also called "slimjim".
> I watched a locksmith use one,along with a thin wood wedge to hold the
> window away from the door to keep from damaging the window or rubber trim.
>
>
> > Practice on the cars you own and you'll be able to open up pretty much
> > any car in less than a minute.
> >
> >

>
> Of course,having one in your car is "possession of burglary tools" unless
> you are a locksmith or repo man.
>


Possession could be an offense - not sure what the law is here on that.
It would be a little silly, because any wire clothes hanger could be
used as a car jacking tool as well.

I have one in my toolkit to help stranded people out. Thus far I've
used it 6 times in three years. (actually got it after my daughter
locked herself out and had to try to break in with clothes hangers).


Remco 06-02-2006 01:55 PM

Re: Beware Honda Thiefs~
 

Jim Yanik wrote:
> "Remco" <whybcuz@yahoo.com> wrote in
> news:1149266595.763410.319510@y43g2000cwc.googlegr oups.com:
>
> >
> > rick++ wrote:
> >> Its annoying on my insurance bill. If I select similar none Honda
> >> model, it might be 10-15% cheaper.
> >> In my state and generally in the USA Accords and Civics
> >> both have the highest total and highest percent.
> >> I'm guessing there much be good resale market for both
> >> whole cars and parts. Souped up civics have been the
> >> choice cars for informal street racing for some time.
> >>
> >> When my 1990 Civic got long in the tooth, I noticed my key
> >> opened other similar cars. Once in the while I'd accidently
> >> go to nearby civic of the same shape, color and condition
> >> and accidently enter it, just like that Southwest Airlines TV
> >> commercial about mistaken cars. I'm guess whne the keys
> >> and cylinders wear down enough they must become skeleton
> >> keys. Or Honda sold very few key types.
> >>
> >> Also the triple-AAA locksmith was able to jiggle open the lock
> >> in less than a minute when I locked my keys inside.

> >
> > You don't need a locksmith to get into most cars: visit a fleamarket
> > and buy a flatjack at one of the tool stands - this is basically a flat
> > piece springy steel with a hook on the end. It slips in between the
> > window and the rubber.

>
>
> Also called "slimjim".
> I watched a locksmith use one,along with a thin wood wedge to hold the
> window away from the door to keep from damaging the window or rubber trim.
>
>
> > Practice on the cars you own and you'll be able to open up pretty much
> > any car in less than a minute.
> >
> >

>
> Of course,having one in your car is "possession of burglary tools" unless
> you are a locksmith or repo man.
>


Possession could be an offense - not sure what the law is here on that.
It would be a little silly, because any wire clothes hanger could be
used as a car jacking tool as well.

I have one in my toolkit to help stranded people out. Thus far I've
used it 6 times in three years. (actually got it after my daughter
locked herself out and had to try to break in with clothes hangers).


Remco 06-02-2006 01:55 PM

Re: Beware Honda Thiefs~
 

Jim Yanik wrote:
> "Remco" <whybcuz@yahoo.com> wrote in
> news:1149266595.763410.319510@y43g2000cwc.googlegr oups.com:
>
> >
> > rick++ wrote:
> >> Its annoying on my insurance bill. If I select similar none Honda
> >> model, it might be 10-15% cheaper.
> >> In my state and generally in the USA Accords and Civics
> >> both have the highest total and highest percent.
> >> I'm guessing there much be good resale market for both
> >> whole cars and parts. Souped up civics have been the
> >> choice cars for informal street racing for some time.
> >>
> >> When my 1990 Civic got long in the tooth, I noticed my key
> >> opened other similar cars. Once in the while I'd accidently
> >> go to nearby civic of the same shape, color and condition
> >> and accidently enter it, just like that Southwest Airlines TV
> >> commercial about mistaken cars. I'm guess whne the keys
> >> and cylinders wear down enough they must become skeleton
> >> keys. Or Honda sold very few key types.
> >>
> >> Also the triple-AAA locksmith was able to jiggle open the lock
> >> in less than a minute when I locked my keys inside.

> >
> > You don't need a locksmith to get into most cars: visit a fleamarket
> > and buy a flatjack at one of the tool stands - this is basically a flat
> > piece springy steel with a hook on the end. It slips in between the
> > window and the rubber.

>
>
> Also called "slimjim".
> I watched a locksmith use one,along with a thin wood wedge to hold the
> window away from the door to keep from damaging the window or rubber trim.
>
>
> > Practice on the cars you own and you'll be able to open up pretty much
> > any car in less than a minute.
> >
> >

>
> Of course,having one in your car is "possession of burglary tools" unless
> you are a locksmith or repo man.
>


Possession could be an offense - not sure what the law is here on that.
It would be a little silly, because any wire clothes hanger could be
used as a car jacking tool as well.

I have one in my toolkit to help stranded people out. Thus far I've
used it 6 times in three years. (actually got it after my daughter
locked herself out and had to try to break in with clothes hangers).


Brian Smith 06-02-2006 06:26 PM

Re: Beware Honda Thiefs~
 

"HondaGurlll" <u22565@uwe> wrote in message news:61288a645e727@uwe...
> Hi my name is AsiaAnne and I live in the great Las Vegas Nevada area. We
> have
> the highest rate in the state for stolen Honda's and they are usually the
> 1999 and younger Honda Accords which I have a 1997. I LOVE my car~I have
> deep
> tinted windows~a bomb azz stereo systems~18' chrome rims with the
> expensive
> low profile perellis but now since I've done all this work I see th people
> just staring like "dayum" I want that~NOW~~~ I have bought the Viper alarm
> system,the "club" for the steering wheel and also the new steering coluum
> lock that is suppose to prevent people from stealing the car~I want to get
> a
> "Low Jack" system on it but dayum that costs a lot of money so what do you
> think? I say to myself "If they steal the car after all that shyt is on
> there
> they deserve it"~I would feel so violated if someone stole her not to
> mention
> I would feel like a total idiot~Any suggestions? Thanx alot :) ~AsiaAnne


Move to a better location? {;^)



Brian Smith 06-02-2006 06:26 PM

Re: Beware Honda Thiefs~
 

"HondaGurlll" <u22565@uwe> wrote in message news:61288a645e727@uwe...
> Hi my name is AsiaAnne and I live in the great Las Vegas Nevada area. We
> have
> the highest rate in the state for stolen Honda's and they are usually the
> 1999 and younger Honda Accords which I have a 1997. I LOVE my car~I have
> deep
> tinted windows~a bomb azz stereo systems~18' chrome rims with the
> expensive
> low profile perellis but now since I've done all this work I see th people
> just staring like "dayum" I want that~NOW~~~ I have bought the Viper alarm
> system,the "club" for the steering wheel and also the new steering coluum
> lock that is suppose to prevent people from stealing the car~I want to get
> a
> "Low Jack" system on it but dayum that costs a lot of money so what do you
> think? I say to myself "If they steal the car after all that shyt is on
> there
> they deserve it"~I would feel so violated if someone stole her not to
> mention
> I would feel like a total idiot~Any suggestions? Thanx alot :) ~AsiaAnne


Move to a better location? {;^)



Brian Smith 06-02-2006 06:26 PM

Re: Beware Honda Thiefs~
 

"HondaGurlll" <u22565@uwe> wrote in message news:61288a645e727@uwe...
> Hi my name is AsiaAnne and I live in the great Las Vegas Nevada area. We
> have
> the highest rate in the state for stolen Honda's and they are usually the
> 1999 and younger Honda Accords which I have a 1997. I LOVE my car~I have
> deep
> tinted windows~a bomb azz stereo systems~18' chrome rims with the
> expensive
> low profile perellis but now since I've done all this work I see th people
> just staring like "dayum" I want that~NOW~~~ I have bought the Viper alarm
> system,the "club" for the steering wheel and also the new steering coluum
> lock that is suppose to prevent people from stealing the car~I want to get
> a
> "Low Jack" system on it but dayum that costs a lot of money so what do you
> think? I say to myself "If they steal the car after all that shyt is on
> there
> they deserve it"~I would feel so violated if someone stole her not to
> mention
> I would feel like a total idiot~Any suggestions? Thanx alot :) ~AsiaAnne


Move to a better location? {;^)



Jim Yanik 06-02-2006 07:43 PM

Re: Beware Honda Thiefs~
 
"Remco" <whybcuz@yahoo.com> wrote in
news:1149270915.992219.115980@f6g2000cwb.googlegro ups.com:

>
> Jim Yanik wrote:
>> "Remco" <whybcuz@yahoo.com> wrote in
>> news:1149266595.763410.319510@y43g2000cwc.googlegr oups.com:
>>
>> >
>> > rick++ wrote:
>> >> Its annoying on my insurance bill. If I select similar none Honda
>> >> model, it might be 10-15% cheaper.
>> >> In my state and generally in the USA Accords and Civics
>> >> both have the highest total and highest percent.
>> >> I'm guessing there much be good resale market for both
>> >> whole cars and parts. Souped up civics have been the
>> >> choice cars for informal street racing for some time.
>> >>
>> >> When my 1990 Civic got long in the tooth, I noticed my key
>> >> opened other similar cars. Once in the while I'd accidently
>> >> go to nearby civic of the same shape, color and condition
>> >> and accidently enter it, just like that Southwest Airlines TV
>> >> commercial about mistaken cars. I'm guess whne the keys
>> >> and cylinders wear down enough they must become skeleton
>> >> keys. Or Honda sold very few key types.
>> >>
>> >> Also the triple-AAA locksmith was able to jiggle open the lock
>> >> in less than a minute when I locked my keys inside.
>> >
>> > You don't need a locksmith to get into most cars: visit a
>> > fleamarket and buy a flatjack at one of the tool stands - this is
>> > basically a flat piece springy steel with a hook on the end. It
>> > slips in between the window and the rubber.

>>
>>
>> Also called "slimjim".
>> I watched a locksmith use one,along with a thin wood wedge to hold
>> the window away from the door to keep from damaging the window or
>> rubber trim.
>>
>>
>> > Practice on the cars you own and you'll be able to open up pretty
>> > much any car in less than a minute.
>> >
>> >

>>
>> Of course,having one in your car is "possession of burglary tools"
>> unless you are a locksmith or repo man.
>>

>
> Possession could be an offense - not sure what the law is here on
> that. It would be a little silly, because any wire clothes hanger
> could be used as a car jacking tool as well.


A wire clothes hanger is not specifically a tool for opening locked car
doors.

>
> I have one in my toolkit to help stranded people out. Thus far I've
> used it 6 times in three years. (actually got it after my daughter
> locked herself out and had to try to break in with clothes hangers).
>
>


Yes,and the owner was present when you were using the tool to open her car.

--
Jim Yanik
jyanik
at
kua.net

Jim Yanik 06-02-2006 07:43 PM

Re: Beware Honda Thiefs~
 
"Remco" <whybcuz@yahoo.com> wrote in
news:1149270915.992219.115980@f6g2000cwb.googlegro ups.com:

>
> Jim Yanik wrote:
>> "Remco" <whybcuz@yahoo.com> wrote in
>> news:1149266595.763410.319510@y43g2000cwc.googlegr oups.com:
>>
>> >
>> > rick++ wrote:
>> >> Its annoying on my insurance bill. If I select similar none Honda
>> >> model, it might be 10-15% cheaper.
>> >> In my state and generally in the USA Accords and Civics
>> >> both have the highest total and highest percent.
>> >> I'm guessing there much be good resale market for both
>> >> whole cars and parts. Souped up civics have been the
>> >> choice cars for informal street racing for some time.
>> >>
>> >> When my 1990 Civic got long in the tooth, I noticed my key
>> >> opened other similar cars. Once in the while I'd accidently
>> >> go to nearby civic of the same shape, color and condition
>> >> and accidently enter it, just like that Southwest Airlines TV
>> >> commercial about mistaken cars. I'm guess whne the keys
>> >> and cylinders wear down enough they must become skeleton
>> >> keys. Or Honda sold very few key types.
>> >>
>> >> Also the triple-AAA locksmith was able to jiggle open the lock
>> >> in less than a minute when I locked my keys inside.
>> >
>> > You don't need a locksmith to get into most cars: visit a
>> > fleamarket and buy a flatjack at one of the tool stands - this is
>> > basically a flat piece springy steel with a hook on the end. It
>> > slips in between the window and the rubber.

>>
>>
>> Also called "slimjim".
>> I watched a locksmith use one,along with a thin wood wedge to hold
>> the window away from the door to keep from damaging the window or
>> rubber trim.
>>
>>
>> > Practice on the cars you own and you'll be able to open up pretty
>> > much any car in less than a minute.
>> >
>> >

>>
>> Of course,having one in your car is "possession of burglary tools"
>> unless you are a locksmith or repo man.
>>

>
> Possession could be an offense - not sure what the law is here on
> that. It would be a little silly, because any wire clothes hanger
> could be used as a car jacking tool as well.


A wire clothes hanger is not specifically a tool for opening locked car
doors.

>
> I have one in my toolkit to help stranded people out. Thus far I've
> used it 6 times in three years. (actually got it after my daughter
> locked herself out and had to try to break in with clothes hangers).
>
>


Yes,and the owner was present when you were using the tool to open her car.

--
Jim Yanik
jyanik
at
kua.net

Jim Yanik 06-02-2006 07:43 PM

Re: Beware Honda Thiefs~
 
"Remco" <whybcuz@yahoo.com> wrote in
news:1149270915.992219.115980@f6g2000cwb.googlegro ups.com:

>
> Jim Yanik wrote:
>> "Remco" <whybcuz@yahoo.com> wrote in
>> news:1149266595.763410.319510@y43g2000cwc.googlegr oups.com:
>>
>> >
>> > rick++ wrote:
>> >> Its annoying on my insurance bill. If I select similar none Honda
>> >> model, it might be 10-15% cheaper.
>> >> In my state and generally in the USA Accords and Civics
>> >> both have the highest total and highest percent.
>> >> I'm guessing there much be good resale market for both
>> >> whole cars and parts. Souped up civics have been the
>> >> choice cars for informal street racing for some time.
>> >>
>> >> When my 1990 Civic got long in the tooth, I noticed my key
>> >> opened other similar cars. Once in the while I'd accidently
>> >> go to nearby civic of the same shape, color and condition
>> >> and accidently enter it, just like that Southwest Airlines TV
>> >> commercial about mistaken cars. I'm guess whne the keys
>> >> and cylinders wear down enough they must become skeleton
>> >> keys. Or Honda sold very few key types.
>> >>
>> >> Also the triple-AAA locksmith was able to jiggle open the lock
>> >> in less than a minute when I locked my keys inside.
>> >
>> > You don't need a locksmith to get into most cars: visit a
>> > fleamarket and buy a flatjack at one of the tool stands - this is
>> > basically a flat piece springy steel with a hook on the end. It
>> > slips in between the window and the rubber.

>>
>>
>> Also called "slimjim".
>> I watched a locksmith use one,along with a thin wood wedge to hold
>> the window away from the door to keep from damaging the window or
>> rubber trim.
>>
>>
>> > Practice on the cars you own and you'll be able to open up pretty
>> > much any car in less than a minute.
>> >
>> >

>>
>> Of course,having one in your car is "possession of burglary tools"
>> unless you are a locksmith or repo man.
>>

>
> Possession could be an offense - not sure what the law is here on
> that. It would be a little silly, because any wire clothes hanger
> could be used as a car jacking tool as well.


A wire clothes hanger is not specifically a tool for opening locked car
doors.

>
> I have one in my toolkit to help stranded people out. Thus far I've
> used it 6 times in three years. (actually got it after my daughter
> locked herself out and had to try to break in with clothes hangers).
>
>


Yes,and the owner was present when you were using the tool to open her car.

--
Jim Yanik
jyanik
at
kua.net

Jim Yanik 06-02-2006 07:51 PM

Re: Beware Honda Thiefs~
 
Jim Yanik <jyanik@abuse.gov> wrote in
news:Xns97D688005DA83jyanikkuanet@129.250.170.85:

> "HondaGurlll" <u22565@uwe> wrote in news:61288a645e727@uwe:
>
>> Hi my name is AsiaAnne and I live in the great Las Vegas Nevada area.
>> We have the highest rate in the state for stolen Honda's and they are
>> usually the 1999 and younger Honda Accords which I have a 1997. I
>> LOVE my car~I have deep tinted windows~a bomb azz stereo systems~18'
>> chrome rims with the expensive low profile perellis but now since
>> I've done all this work I see th people just staring like "dayum" I
>> want that~NOW~~~ I have bought the Viper alarm system,the "club" for
>> the steering wheel and also the new steering coluum lock that is
>> suppose to prevent people from stealing the car~I want to get a "Low
>> Jack" system on it but dayum that costs a lot of money so what do you
>> think? I say to myself "If they steal the car after all that shyt is
>> on there they deserve it"~I would feel so violated if someone stole
>> her not to mention I would feel like a total idiot~Any suggestions?
>> Thanx alot :) ~AsiaAnne

>
> I understand that the windows are a weak point for entry into your
> car,


To add more;the thieves pry out the window at the top where it slides into
a plastic clip,then use something to open the door lock.Coat hanger?

> then they tear apart the steering column to pop the ignition lock
> cylinder.


Using a big screwdriver or a dent puller.
Either way,the lock is now trashed.

> It happened to a neighbor of mine


But they failed,then stole his stereo,

> and then they tried to
> steal my Integra. My alarm alerted me and I went out there (armed) and
> chased them off.


the 2 thieves didn't move away from my car when I approached,-until I drew
the gun!
Thieves are getting pretty bold.

>
> IMO,getting a locking steering column collar will ward off most
> thieves.



> I have not found one specifically for Honda/Acura,only for
> Toyotas.
>


I may have to build one myself,as I may not always be around to respond to
my alarm.
If you cannot respond to your alarm,then it's essentially worthless,as no
one else will respond,and it takes TIME for police to arrive after being
called.


--
Jim Yanik
jyanik
at
kua.net

Jim Yanik 06-02-2006 07:51 PM

Re: Beware Honda Thiefs~
 
Jim Yanik <jyanik@abuse.gov> wrote in
news:Xns97D688005DA83jyanikkuanet@129.250.170.85:

> "HondaGurlll" <u22565@uwe> wrote in news:61288a645e727@uwe:
>
>> Hi my name is AsiaAnne and I live in the great Las Vegas Nevada area.
>> We have the highest rate in the state for stolen Honda's and they are
>> usually the 1999 and younger Honda Accords which I have a 1997. I
>> LOVE my car~I have deep tinted windows~a bomb azz stereo systems~18'
>> chrome rims with the expensive low profile perellis but now since
>> I've done all this work I see th people just staring like "dayum" I
>> want that~NOW~~~ I have bought the Viper alarm system,the "club" for
>> the steering wheel and also the new steering coluum lock that is
>> suppose to prevent people from stealing the car~I want to get a "Low
>> Jack" system on it but dayum that costs a lot of money so what do you
>> think? I say to myself "If they steal the car after all that shyt is
>> on there they deserve it"~I would feel so violated if someone stole
>> her not to mention I would feel like a total idiot~Any suggestions?
>> Thanx alot :) ~AsiaAnne

>
> I understand that the windows are a weak point for entry into your
> car,


To add more;the thieves pry out the window at the top where it slides into
a plastic clip,then use something to open the door lock.Coat hanger?

> then they tear apart the steering column to pop the ignition lock
> cylinder.


Using a big screwdriver or a dent puller.
Either way,the lock is now trashed.

> It happened to a neighbor of mine


But they failed,then stole his stereo,

> and then they tried to
> steal my Integra. My alarm alerted me and I went out there (armed) and
> chased them off.


the 2 thieves didn't move away from my car when I approached,-until I drew
the gun!
Thieves are getting pretty bold.

>
> IMO,getting a locking steering column collar will ward off most
> thieves.



> I have not found one specifically for Honda/Acura,only for
> Toyotas.
>


I may have to build one myself,as I may not always be around to respond to
my alarm.
If you cannot respond to your alarm,then it's essentially worthless,as no
one else will respond,and it takes TIME for police to arrive after being
called.


--
Jim Yanik
jyanik
at
kua.net

Jim Yanik 06-02-2006 07:51 PM

Re: Beware Honda Thiefs~
 
Jim Yanik <jyanik@abuse.gov> wrote in
news:Xns97D688005DA83jyanikkuanet@129.250.170.85:

> "HondaGurlll" <u22565@uwe> wrote in news:61288a645e727@uwe:
>
>> Hi my name is AsiaAnne and I live in the great Las Vegas Nevada area.
>> We have the highest rate in the state for stolen Honda's and they are
>> usually the 1999 and younger Honda Accords which I have a 1997. I
>> LOVE my car~I have deep tinted windows~a bomb azz stereo systems~18'
>> chrome rims with the expensive low profile perellis but now since
>> I've done all this work I see th people just staring like "dayum" I
>> want that~NOW~~~ I have bought the Viper alarm system,the "club" for
>> the steering wheel and also the new steering coluum lock that is
>> suppose to prevent people from stealing the car~I want to get a "Low
>> Jack" system on it but dayum that costs a lot of money so what do you
>> think? I say to myself "If they steal the car after all that shyt is
>> on there they deserve it"~I would feel so violated if someone stole
>> her not to mention I would feel like a total idiot~Any suggestions?
>> Thanx alot :) ~AsiaAnne

>
> I understand that the windows are a weak point for entry into your
> car,


To add more;the thieves pry out the window at the top where it slides into
a plastic clip,then use something to open the door lock.Coat hanger?

> then they tear apart the steering column to pop the ignition lock
> cylinder.


Using a big screwdriver or a dent puller.
Either way,the lock is now trashed.

> It happened to a neighbor of mine


But they failed,then stole his stereo,

> and then they tried to
> steal my Integra. My alarm alerted me and I went out there (armed) and
> chased them off.


the 2 thieves didn't move away from my car when I approached,-until I drew
the gun!
Thieves are getting pretty bold.

>
> IMO,getting a locking steering column collar will ward off most
> thieves.



> I have not found one specifically for Honda/Acura,only for
> Toyotas.
>


I may have to build one myself,as I may not always be around to respond to
my alarm.
If you cannot respond to your alarm,then it's essentially worthless,as no
one else will respond,and it takes TIME for police to arrive after being
called.


--
Jim Yanik
jyanik
at
kua.net

Burt 06-03-2006 04:32 AM

Re: Beware Honda Thiefs~
 
"Jim Yanik" <jyanik@abuse.gov> wrote

> Using a big screwdriver or a dent puller.
> Either way,the lock is now trashed.


Essentially, yes. But some of the thieves now do not destroy the
ignition lock at all. It's simply magic. -- I don't know and don't
want to know how it's done without keys.

> > IMO,getting a locking steering column collar will ward off most thieves.
> > I have not found one specifically for Honda/Acura,only for Toyotas.

> I may have to build one myself,as I may not always be around to respond to
> my alarm.


This is a good deterrent but inefficient. Will you be using
a 10 gauge steel? How are going to cut weld and bend
steel? What will make it freon proof?












Burt 06-03-2006 04:32 AM

Re: Beware Honda Thiefs~
 
"Jim Yanik" <jyanik@abuse.gov> wrote

> Using a big screwdriver or a dent puller.
> Either way,the lock is now trashed.


Essentially, yes. But some of the thieves now do not destroy the
ignition lock at all. It's simply magic. -- I don't know and don't
want to know how it's done without keys.

> > IMO,getting a locking steering column collar will ward off most thieves.
> > I have not found one specifically for Honda/Acura,only for Toyotas.

> I may have to build one myself,as I may not always be around to respond to
> my alarm.


This is a good deterrent but inefficient. Will you be using
a 10 gauge steel? How are going to cut weld and bend
steel? What will make it freon proof?












Burt 06-03-2006 04:32 AM

Re: Beware Honda Thiefs~
 
"Jim Yanik" <jyanik@abuse.gov> wrote

> Using a big screwdriver or a dent puller.
> Either way,the lock is now trashed.


Essentially, yes. But some of the thieves now do not destroy the
ignition lock at all. It's simply magic. -- I don't know and don't
want to know how it's done without keys.

> > IMO,getting a locking steering column collar will ward off most thieves.
> > I have not found one specifically for Honda/Acura,only for Toyotas.

> I may have to build one myself,as I may not always be around to respond to
> my alarm.


This is a good deterrent but inefficient. Will you be using
a 10 gauge steel? How are going to cut weld and bend
steel? What will make it freon proof?












Remco 06-03-2006 09:47 AM

Re: Beware Honda Thiefs~
 

Jim Yanik wrote:
> "Remco" <whybcuz@yahoo.com> wrote in
> news:1149270915.992219.115980@f6g2000cwb.googlegro ups.com:
>
> >
> > Jim Yanik wrote:
> >> "Remco" <whybcuz@yahoo.com> wrote in
> >> news:1149266595.763410.319510@y43g2000cwc.googlegr oups.com:
> >>
> >> >
> >> > rick++ wrote:
> >> >> Its annoying on my insurance bill. If I select similar none Honda
> >> >> model, it might be 10-15% cheaper.
> >> >> In my state and generally in the USA Accords and Civics
> >> >> both have the highest total and highest percent.
> >> >> I'm guessing there much be good resale market for both
> >> >> whole cars and parts. Souped up civics have been the
> >> >> choice cars for informal street racing for some time.
> >> >>
> >> >> When my 1990 Civic got long in the tooth, I noticed my key
> >> >> opened other similar cars. Once in the while I'd accidently
> >> >> go to nearby civic of the same shape, color and condition
> >> >> and accidently enter it, just like that Southwest Airlines TV
> >> >> commercial about mistaken cars. I'm guess whne the keys
> >> >> and cylinders wear down enough they must become skeleton
> >> >> keys. Or Honda sold very few key types.
> >> >>
> >> >> Also the triple-AAA locksmith was able to jiggle open the lock
> >> >> in less than a minute when I locked my keys inside.
> >> >
> >> > You don't need a locksmith to get into most cars: visit a
> >> > fleamarket and buy a flatjack at one of the tool stands - this is
> >> > basically a flat piece springy steel with a hook on the end. It
> >> > slips in between the window and the rubber.
> >>
> >>
> >> Also called "slimjim".
> >> I watched a locksmith use one,along with a thin wood wedge to hold
> >> the window away from the door to keep from damaging the window or
> >> rubber trim.
> >>
> >>
> >> > Practice on the cars you own and you'll be able to open up pretty
> >> > much any car in less than a minute.
> >> >
> >> >
> >>
> >> Of course,having one in your car is "possession of burglary tools"
> >> unless you are a locksmith or repo man.
> >>

> >
> > Possession could be an offense - not sure what the law is here on
> > that. It would be a little silly, because any wire clothes hanger
> > could be used as a car jacking tool as well.

>
> A wire clothes hanger is not specifically a tool for opening locked car
> doors.
>
> >
> > I have one in my toolkit to help stranded people out. Thus far I've
> > used it 6 times in three years. (actually got it after my daughter
> > locked herself out and had to try to break in with clothes hangers).
> >
> >

>
> Yes,and the owner was present when you were using the tool to open her car.
>
> --


I am not disagreeing with you whether it is or should be an offense.

Just understand that my reason for having one in my toolkit is not for
the purpose of stealing cars. :)
Was simply illustrating that anyone can open up any car without any
training - security isn't but what else is new?

Remco


Remco 06-03-2006 09:47 AM

Re: Beware Honda Thiefs~
 

Jim Yanik wrote:
> "Remco" <whybcuz@yahoo.com> wrote in
> news:1149270915.992219.115980@f6g2000cwb.googlegro ups.com:
>
> >
> > Jim Yanik wrote:
> >> "Remco" <whybcuz@yahoo.com> wrote in
> >> news:1149266595.763410.319510@y43g2000cwc.googlegr oups.com:
> >>
> >> >
> >> > rick++ wrote:
> >> >> Its annoying on my insurance bill. If I select similar none Honda
> >> >> model, it might be 10-15% cheaper.
> >> >> In my state and generally in the USA Accords and Civics
> >> >> both have the highest total and highest percent.
> >> >> I'm guessing there much be good resale market for both
> >> >> whole cars and parts. Souped up civics have been the
> >> >> choice cars for informal street racing for some time.
> >> >>
> >> >> When my 1990 Civic got long in the tooth, I noticed my key
> >> >> opened other similar cars. Once in the while I'd accidently
> >> >> go to nearby civic of the same shape, color and condition
> >> >> and accidently enter it, just like that Southwest Airlines TV
> >> >> commercial about mistaken cars. I'm guess whne the keys
> >> >> and cylinders wear down enough they must become skeleton
> >> >> keys. Or Honda sold very few key types.
> >> >>
> >> >> Also the triple-AAA locksmith was able to jiggle open the lock
> >> >> in less than a minute when I locked my keys inside.
> >> >
> >> > You don't need a locksmith to get into most cars: visit a
> >> > fleamarket and buy a flatjack at one of the tool stands - this is
> >> > basically a flat piece springy steel with a hook on the end. It
> >> > slips in between the window and the rubber.
> >>
> >>
> >> Also called "slimjim".
> >> I watched a locksmith use one,along with a thin wood wedge to hold
> >> the window away from the door to keep from damaging the window or
> >> rubber trim.
> >>
> >>
> >> > Practice on the cars you own and you'll be able to open up pretty
> >> > much any car in less than a minute.
> >> >
> >> >
> >>
> >> Of course,having one in your car is "possession of burglary tools"
> >> unless you are a locksmith or repo man.
> >>

> >
> > Possession could be an offense - not sure what the law is here on
> > that. It would be a little silly, because any wire clothes hanger
> > could be used as a car jacking tool as well.

>
> A wire clothes hanger is not specifically a tool for opening locked car
> doors.
>
> >
> > I have one in my toolkit to help stranded people out. Thus far I've
> > used it 6 times in three years. (actually got it after my daughter
> > locked herself out and had to try to break in with clothes hangers).
> >
> >

>
> Yes,and the owner was present when you were using the tool to open her car.
>
> --


I am not disagreeing with you whether it is or should be an offense.

Just understand that my reason for having one in my toolkit is not for
the purpose of stealing cars. :)
Was simply illustrating that anyone can open up any car without any
training - security isn't but what else is new?

Remco


Remco 06-03-2006 09:47 AM

Re: Beware Honda Thiefs~
 

Jim Yanik wrote:
> "Remco" <whybcuz@yahoo.com> wrote in
> news:1149270915.992219.115980@f6g2000cwb.googlegro ups.com:
>
> >
> > Jim Yanik wrote:
> >> "Remco" <whybcuz@yahoo.com> wrote in
> >> news:1149266595.763410.319510@y43g2000cwc.googlegr oups.com:
> >>
> >> >
> >> > rick++ wrote:
> >> >> Its annoying on my insurance bill. If I select similar none Honda
> >> >> model, it might be 10-15% cheaper.
> >> >> In my state and generally in the USA Accords and Civics
> >> >> both have the highest total and highest percent.
> >> >> I'm guessing there much be good resale market for both
> >> >> whole cars and parts. Souped up civics have been the
> >> >> choice cars for informal street racing for some time.
> >> >>
> >> >> When my 1990 Civic got long in the tooth, I noticed my key
> >> >> opened other similar cars. Once in the while I'd accidently
> >> >> go to nearby civic of the same shape, color and condition
> >> >> and accidently enter it, just like that Southwest Airlines TV
> >> >> commercial about mistaken cars. I'm guess whne the keys
> >> >> and cylinders wear down enough they must become skeleton
> >> >> keys. Or Honda sold very few key types.
> >> >>
> >> >> Also the triple-AAA locksmith was able to jiggle open the lock
> >> >> in less than a minute when I locked my keys inside.
> >> >
> >> > You don't need a locksmith to get into most cars: visit a
> >> > fleamarket and buy a flatjack at one of the tool stands - this is
> >> > basically a flat piece springy steel with a hook on the end. It
> >> > slips in between the window and the rubber.
> >>
> >>
> >> Also called "slimjim".
> >> I watched a locksmith use one,along with a thin wood wedge to hold
> >> the window away from the door to keep from damaging the window or
> >> rubber trim.
> >>
> >>
> >> > Practice on the cars you own and you'll be able to open up pretty
> >> > much any car in less than a minute.
> >> >
> >> >
> >>
> >> Of course,having one in your car is "possession of burglary tools"
> >> unless you are a locksmith or repo man.
> >>

> >
> > Possession could be an offense - not sure what the law is here on
> > that. It would be a little silly, because any wire clothes hanger
> > could be used as a car jacking tool as well.

>
> A wire clothes hanger is not specifically a tool for opening locked car
> doors.
>
> >
> > I have one in my toolkit to help stranded people out. Thus far I've
> > used it 6 times in three years. (actually got it after my daughter
> > locked herself out and had to try to break in with clothes hangers).
> >
> >

>
> Yes,and the owner was present when you were using the tool to open her car.
>
> --


I am not disagreeing with you whether it is or should be an offense.

Just understand that my reason for having one in my toolkit is not for
the purpose of stealing cars. :)
Was simply illustrating that anyone can open up any car without any
training - security isn't but what else is new?

Remco


Burt 06-03-2006 08:51 PM

Re: Beware Honda Thiefs~
 
"HondaGurlll" <u22565@uwe> wrote in message news:61288a645e727@uwe...

> Hi my name is AsiaAnne and I live in the great Las Vegas Nevada area. We have
> the highest rate in the state for stolen Honda's and they are usually the
> 1999 and younger Honda Accords which I have a 1997. I LOVE my car~I have deep
> tinted windows~a bomb azz stereo systems~18' chrome rims with the expensive
> low profile perellis but now since I've done all this work I see th people
> just staring like "dayum" I want that~NOW~~~ I have bought the Viper alarm
> system,the "club" for the steering wheel and also the new steering coluum
> lock that is suppose to prevent people from stealing the car~I want to get a
> "Low Jack" system on it but dayum that costs a lot of money so what do you
> think? I say to myself "If they steal the car after all that shyt is on there
> they deserve it"~I would feel so violated if someone stole her not to mention
> I would feel like a total idiot~Any suggestions? Thanx alot :) ~AsiaAnne


The classic tool they used to defeat the club, which is sold at every home center,
is the same tool used to defeat the 16 gauge steel steering column lock. The
Lojack is false security.

Essentially, you went thru all the trouble but other simple solutions would work much
better an you won't have to even put them on when you leave the car. Practically,
your paranoia has stopped you from gracefully living your life.

One more thing, it's already been wide that the Viper can be defeated in a
few seconds. The Viper alarm is a very weak contender, unless I install it against
Viper's regulations, which they WON'T allow it.










Burt 06-03-2006 08:51 PM

Re: Beware Honda Thiefs~
 
"HondaGurlll" <u22565@uwe> wrote in message news:61288a645e727@uwe...

> Hi my name is AsiaAnne and I live in the great Las Vegas Nevada area. We have
> the highest rate in the state for stolen Honda's and they are usually the
> 1999 and younger Honda Accords which I have a 1997. I LOVE my car~I have deep
> tinted windows~a bomb azz stereo systems~18' chrome rims with the expensive
> low profile perellis but now since I've done all this work I see th people
> just staring like "dayum" I want that~NOW~~~ I have bought the Viper alarm
> system,the "club" for the steering wheel and also the new steering coluum
> lock that is suppose to prevent people from stealing the car~I want to get a
> "Low Jack" system on it but dayum that costs a lot of money so what do you
> think? I say to myself "If they steal the car after all that shyt is on there
> they deserve it"~I would feel so violated if someone stole her not to mention
> I would feel like a total idiot~Any suggestions? Thanx alot :) ~AsiaAnne


The classic tool they used to defeat the club, which is sold at every home center,
is the same tool used to defeat the 16 gauge steel steering column lock. The
Lojack is false security.

Essentially, you went thru all the trouble but other simple solutions would work much
better an you won't have to even put them on when you leave the car. Practically,
your paranoia has stopped you from gracefully living your life.

One more thing, it's already been wide that the Viper can be defeated in a
few seconds. The Viper alarm is a very weak contender, unless I install it against
Viper's regulations, which they WON'T allow it.










Burt 06-03-2006 08:51 PM

Re: Beware Honda Thiefs~
 
"HondaGurlll" <u22565@uwe> wrote in message news:61288a645e727@uwe...

> Hi my name is AsiaAnne and I live in the great Las Vegas Nevada area. We have
> the highest rate in the state for stolen Honda's and they are usually the
> 1999 and younger Honda Accords which I have a 1997. I LOVE my car~I have deep
> tinted windows~a bomb azz stereo systems~18' chrome rims with the expensive
> low profile perellis but now since I've done all this work I see th people
> just staring like "dayum" I want that~NOW~~~ I have bought the Viper alarm
> system,the "club" for the steering wheel and also the new steering coluum
> lock that is suppose to prevent people from stealing the car~I want to get a
> "Low Jack" system on it but dayum that costs a lot of money so what do you
> think? I say to myself "If they steal the car after all that shyt is on there
> they deserve it"~I would feel so violated if someone stole her not to mention
> I would feel like a total idiot~Any suggestions? Thanx alot :) ~AsiaAnne


The classic tool they used to defeat the club, which is sold at every home center,
is the same tool used to defeat the 16 gauge steel steering column lock. The
Lojack is false security.

Essentially, you went thru all the trouble but other simple solutions would work much
better an you won't have to even put them on when you leave the car. Practically,
your paranoia has stopped you from gracefully living your life.

One more thing, it's already been wide that the Viper can be defeated in a
few seconds. The Viper alarm is a very weak contender, unless I install it against
Viper's regulations, which they WON'T allow it.











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