On Mon, 23 Feb 2004 10:41:33 -0700, "'Curly Q. Links'"
<motsco__@interbaun.com> wrote:

>Hokey,
>
>It's the Throttle Position Sensor, and it's died VERY prematurely. If
>you had a manual transmission, you'd really feel that sucker lurch when
>you try to drive slowly in first or second. It would be a reall bucking
>bronco.
>
>If they just put a meter with a needle on it accross the TPS, they'll
>see it go spazzy at the point that coincides with 1700 RPM. You should
>take a camcorder for a ride in a parking lot or a side road and just
>watch the tach, while winding it up to 1700 RPM in each of the (manually
>selected) gears. Try reverse too, to prove your point. Take a VHS copy
>of the tape with you to the dealership and tell them to watch the tape
>while they wait for your new throttle body to come from 'wherever'.
>
>Let us know what the outcome is, eh??
>
>'Curly'

Hey Curly, it's me, "Hokey" :-)

I haven't been able to book my Pilot to take it in to get this
vibration problem diagnosed yet, but I thought I'd update my situation
before I do.

Shortly after I you had provided me with the above answer, the
temperature here dropped and have been averaging about -5C/25F as the
high here. And lo and behold, the vibration problem is almost gone.
There'd be the odd time that it'd come back, but not as severely as it
had been vibrating as before.

When I first posted this question, the average high during the day was
like 8C/47F. On those days, I was able to make it vibrate as
described in my original post like clockwork.

So, right now, I'm waiting for the temperature to go up again and
remain that way before I make an appointment, so that the technicians
will be able to duplicate the vibration when they go for testdrives.

But are faulty TPS sensitive to temperature changes? This problem is
driving me nuts!!! I know it's there, but the darn thing decided to
take a hike just as soon as the temp dropped and I can't even take it
in to have it fixed.

Even though the technician saw it for himself the vibration problem
when he went for a testdrive with me, I'll bet you, if I brought my
Pilot to them now, they'll just gimme the, "we can't duplicate the
problem, so we can't work on it" BS.

 

On Mon, 23 Feb 2004 10:41:33 -0700, "'Curly Q. Links'"
<motsco__@interbaun.com> wrote:

>Hokey,
>
>It's the Throttle Position Sensor, and it's died VERY prematurely. If
>you had a manual transmission, you'd really feel that sucker lurch when
>you try to drive slowly in first or second. It would be a reall bucking
>bronco.
>
>If they just put a meter with a needle on it accross the TPS, they'll
>see it go spazzy at the point that coincides with 1700 RPM. You should
>take a camcorder for a ride in a parking lot or a side road and just
>watch the tach, while winding it up to 1700 RPM in each of the (manually
>selected) gears. Try reverse too, to prove your point. Take a VHS copy
>of the tape with you to the dealership and tell them to watch the tape
>while they wait for your new throttle body to come from 'wherever'.
>
>Let us know what the outcome is, eh??
>
>'Curly'

Hey Curly, it's me, "Hokey" :-)

I haven't been able to book my Pilot to take it in to get this
vibration problem diagnosed yet, but I thought I'd update my situation
before I do.

Shortly after I you had provided me with the above answer, the
temperature here dropped and have been averaging about -5C/25F as the
high here. And lo and behold, the vibration problem is almost gone.
There'd be the odd time that it'd come back, but not as severely as it
had been vibrating as before.

When I first posted this question, the average high during the day was
like 8C/47F. On those days, I was able to make it vibrate as
described in my original post like clockwork.

So, right now, I'm waiting for the temperature to go up again and
remain that way before I make an appointment, so that the technicians
will be able to duplicate the vibration when they go for testdrives.

But are faulty TPS sensitive to temperature changes? This problem is
driving me nuts!!! I know it's there, but the darn thing decided to
take a hike just as soon as the temp dropped and I can't even take it
in to have it fixed.

Even though the technician saw it for himself the vibration problem
when he went for a testdrive with me, I'll bet you, if I brought my
Pilot to them now, they'll just gimme the, "we can't duplicate the
problem, so we can't work on it" BS.

 

Steve Lee wrote:
>
> On Mon, 23 Feb 2004 10:41:33 -0700, "'Curly Q. Links'"
> <motsco__@interbaun.com> wrote:
>
> >Hokey,
> >
> >It's the Throttle Position Sensor, and it's died VERY prematurely. If
> >you had a manual transmission, you'd really feel that sucker lurch when
> >you try to drive slowly in first or second. It would be a reall bucking
> >bronco.
> >
> >If they just put a meter with a needle on it accross the TPS, they'll
> >see it go spazzy at the point that coincides with 1700 RPM. You should
> >take a camcorder for a ride in a parking lot or a side road and just
> >watch the tach, while winding it up to 1700 RPM in each of the (manually
> >selected) gears. Try reverse too, to prove your point. Take a VHS copy
> >of the tape with you to the dealership and tell them to watch the tape
> >while they wait for your new throttle body to come from 'wherever'.
> >
> >Let us know what the outcome is, eh??
> >
> >'Curly'
>
> Hey Curly, it's me, "Hokey" :-)
>
> I haven't been able to book my Pilot to take it in to get this
> vibration problem diagnosed yet, but I thought I'd update my situation
> before I do.
>
> Shortly after I you had provided me with the above answer, the
> temperature here dropped and have been averaging about -5C/25F as the
> high here. And lo and behold, the vibration problem is almost gone.
> There'd be the odd time that it'd come back, but not as severely as it
> had been vibrating as before.
>
> When I first posted this question, the average high during the day was
> like 8C/47F. On those days, I was able to make it vibrate as
> described in my original post like clockwork.
>
> So, right now, I'm waiting for the temperature to go up again and
> remain that way before I make an appointment, so that the technicians
> will be able to duplicate the vibration when they go for testdrives.
>
> But are faulty TPS sensitive to temperature changes? This problem is
> driving me nuts!!! I know it's there, but the darn thing decided to
> take a hike just as soon as the temp dropped and I can't even take it
> in to have it fixed.
>
> Even though the technician saw it for himself the vibration problem
> when he went for a testdrive with me, I'll bet you, if I brought my
> Pilot to them now, they'll just gimme the, "we can't duplicate the
> problem, so we can't work on it" BS.

===============

That's why I said you need to do the camcorder evidence. The lens never
blinks. Your dealer and Honda H.O. can't refute your evidence. They may
even be glad to have a tape they can send to Japan / wherever for the
engineers to examine.

Shoot the tape well enough, and you may not even need the appointment.
:-)


'Curly'

===============

 

Steve Lee wrote:
>
> On Mon, 23 Feb 2004 10:41:33 -0700, "'Curly Q. Links'"
> <motsco__@interbaun.com> wrote:
>
> >Hokey,
> >
> >It's the Throttle Position Sensor, and it's died VERY prematurely. If
> >you had a manual transmission, you'd really feel that sucker lurch when
> >you try to drive slowly in first or second. It would be a reall bucking
> >bronco.
> >
> >If they just put a meter with a needle on it accross the TPS, they'll
> >see it go spazzy at the point that coincides with 1700 RPM. You should
> >take a camcorder for a ride in a parking lot or a side road and just
> >watch the tach, while winding it up to 1700 RPM in each of the (manually
> >selected) gears. Try reverse too, to prove your point. Take a VHS copy
> >of the tape with you to the dealership and tell them to watch the tape
> >while they wait for your new throttle body to come from 'wherever'.
> >
> >Let us know what the outcome is, eh??
> >
> >'Curly'
>
> Hey Curly, it's me, "Hokey" :-)
>
> I haven't been able to book my Pilot to take it in to get this
> vibration problem diagnosed yet, but I thought I'd update my situation
> before I do.
>
> Shortly after I you had provided me with the above answer, the
> temperature here dropped and have been averaging about -5C/25F as the
> high here. And lo and behold, the vibration problem is almost gone.
> There'd be the odd time that it'd come back, but not as severely as it
> had been vibrating as before.
>
> When I first posted this question, the average high during the day was
> like 8C/47F. On those days, I was able to make it vibrate as
> described in my original post like clockwork.
>
> So, right now, I'm waiting for the temperature to go up again and
> remain that way before I make an appointment, so that the technicians
> will be able to duplicate the vibration when they go for testdrives.
>
> But are faulty TPS sensitive to temperature changes? This problem is
> driving me nuts!!! I know it's there, but the darn thing decided to
> take a hike just as soon as the temp dropped and I can't even take it
> in to have it fixed.
>
> Even though the technician saw it for himself the vibration problem
> when he went for a testdrive with me, I'll bet you, if I brought my
> Pilot to them now, they'll just gimme the, "we can't duplicate the
> problem, so we can't work on it" BS.

===============

That's why I said you need to do the camcorder evidence. The lens never
blinks. Your dealer and Honda H.O. can't refute your evidence. They may
even be glad to have a tape they can send to Japan / wherever for the
engineers to examine.

Shoot the tape well enough, and you may not even need the appointment.
:-)


'Curly'

===============

 

Steve Lee wrote:
>
> On Mon, 23 Feb 2004 10:41:33 -0700, "'Curly Q. Links'"
> <motsco__@interbaun.com> wrote:
>
> >Hokey,
> >
> >It's the Throttle Position Sensor, and it's died VERY prematurely. If
> >you had a manual transmission, you'd really feel that sucker lurch when
> >you try to drive slowly in first or second. It would be a reall bucking
> >bronco.
> >
> >If they just put a meter with a needle on it accross the TPS, they'll
> >see it go spazzy at the point that coincides with 1700 RPM. You should
> >take a camcorder for a ride in a parking lot or a side road and just
> >watch the tach, while winding it up to 1700 RPM in each of the (manually
> >selected) gears. Try reverse too, to prove your point. Take a VHS copy
> >of the tape with you to the dealership and tell them to watch the tape
> >while they wait for your new throttle body to come from 'wherever'.
> >
> >Let us know what the outcome is, eh??
> >
> >'Curly'
>
> Hey Curly, it's me, "Hokey" :-)
>
> I haven't been able to book my Pilot to take it in to get this
> vibration problem diagnosed yet, but I thought I'd update my situation
> before I do.
>
> Shortly after I you had provided me with the above answer, the
> temperature here dropped and have been averaging about -5C/25F as the
> high here. And lo and behold, the vibration problem is almost gone.
> There'd be the odd time that it'd come back, but not as severely as it
> had been vibrating as before.
>
> When I first posted this question, the average high during the day was
> like 8C/47F. On those days, I was able to make it vibrate as
> described in my original post like clockwork.
>
> So, right now, I'm waiting for the temperature to go up again and
> remain that way before I make an appointment, so that the technicians
> will be able to duplicate the vibration when they go for testdrives.
>
> But are faulty TPS sensitive to temperature changes? This problem is
> driving me nuts!!! I know it's there, but the darn thing decided to
> take a hike just as soon as the temp dropped and I can't even take it
> in to have it fixed.
>
> Even though the technician saw it for himself the vibration problem
> when he went for a testdrive with me, I'll bet you, if I brought my
> Pilot to them now, they'll just gimme the, "we can't duplicate the
> problem, so we can't work on it" BS.

===============

That's why I said you need to do the camcorder evidence. The lens never
blinks. Your dealer and Honda H.O. can't refute your evidence. They may
even be glad to have a tape they can send to Japan / wherever for the
engineers to examine.

Shoot the tape well enough, and you may not even need the appointment.
:-)


'Curly'

===============

 

Steve Lee wrote:
>
> On Mon, 23 Feb 2004 10:41:33 -0700, "'Curly Q. Links'"
> <motsco__@interbaun.com> wrote:
>
> >Hokey,
> >
> >It's the Throttle Position Sensor, and it's died VERY prematurely. If
> >you had a manual transmission, you'd really feel that sucker lurch when
> >you try to drive slowly in first or second. It would be a reall bucking
> >bronco.
> >
> >If they just put a meter with a needle on it accross the TPS, they'll
> >see it go spazzy at the point that coincides with 1700 RPM. You should
> >take a camcorder for a ride in a parking lot or a side road and just
> >watch the tach, while winding it up to 1700 RPM in each of the (manually
> >selected) gears. Try reverse too, to prove your point. Take a VHS copy
> >of the tape with you to the dealership and tell them to watch the tape
> >while they wait for your new throttle body to come from 'wherever'.
> >
> >Let us know what the outcome is, eh??
> >
> >'Curly'
>
> Hey Curly, it's me, "Hokey" :-)
>
> I haven't been able to book my Pilot to take it in to get this
> vibration problem diagnosed yet, but I thought I'd update my situation
> before I do.
>
> Shortly after I you had provided me with the above answer, the
> temperature here dropped and have been averaging about -5C/25F as the
> high here. And lo and behold, the vibration problem is almost gone.
> There'd be the odd time that it'd come back, but not as severely as it
> had been vibrating as before.
>
> When I first posted this question, the average high during the day was
> like 8C/47F. On those days, I was able to make it vibrate as
> described in my original post like clockwork.
>
> So, right now, I'm waiting for the temperature to go up again and
> remain that way before I make an appointment, so that the technicians
> will be able to duplicate the vibration when they go for testdrives.
>
> But are faulty TPS sensitive to temperature changes? This problem is
> driving me nuts!!! I know it's there, but the darn thing decided to
> take a hike just as soon as the temp dropped and I can't even take it
> in to have it fixed.
>
> Even though the technician saw it for himself the vibration problem
> when he went for a testdrive with me, I'll bet you, if I brought my
> Pilot to them now, they'll just gimme the, "we can't duplicate the
> problem, so we can't work on it" BS.

===============

That's why I said you need to do the camcorder evidence. The lens never
blinks. Your dealer and Honda H.O. can't refute your evidence. They may
even be glad to have a tape they can send to Japan / wherever for the
engineers to examine.

Shoot the tape well enough, and you may not even need the appointment.
:-)


'Curly'

===============

 

On Sun, 29 Feb 2004 21:49:43 -0700, "'Curly Q. Links'"
<motsco__@interbaun.com> wrote:

>That's why I said you need to do the camcorder evidence. The lens never
>blinks. Your dealer and Honda H.O. can't refute your evidence. They may
>even be glad to have a tape they can send to Japan / wherever for the
>engineers to examine.
>
>Shoot the tape well enough, and you may not even need the appointment.
>:-)
>
>'Curly'

gotcha. I'll wait for the temperature to rise again and I'll have my
trusty camcorder with me then. Right now, I'm just not getting any
"action" from the Pilot :-)

 

On Sun, 29 Feb 2004 21:49:43 -0700, "'Curly Q. Links'"
<motsco__@interbaun.com> wrote:

>That's why I said you need to do the camcorder evidence. The lens never
>blinks. Your dealer and Honda H.O. can't refute your evidence. They may
>even be glad to have a tape they can send to Japan / wherever for the
>engineers to examine.
>
>Shoot the tape well enough, and you may not even need the appointment.
>:-)
>
>'Curly'

gotcha. I'll wait for the temperature to rise again and I'll have my
trusty camcorder with me then. Right now, I'm just not getting any
"action" from the Pilot :-)

 

On Sun, 29 Feb 2004 21:49:43 -0700, "'Curly Q. Links'"
<motsco__@interbaun.com> wrote:

>That's why I said you need to do the camcorder evidence. The lens never
>blinks. Your dealer and Honda H.O. can't refute your evidence. They may
>even be glad to have a tape they can send to Japan / wherever for the
>engineers to examine.
>
>Shoot the tape well enough, and you may not even need the appointment.
>:-)
>
>'Curly'

gotcha. I'll wait for the temperature to rise again and I'll have my
trusty camcorder with me then. Right now, I'm just not getting any
"action" from the Pilot :-)

 

On Sun, 29 Feb 2004 21:49:43 -0700, "'Curly Q. Links'"
<motsco__@interbaun.com> wrote:

>That's why I said you need to do the camcorder evidence. The lens never
>blinks. Your dealer and Honda H.O. can't refute your evidence. They may
>even be glad to have a tape they can send to Japan / wherever for the
>engineers to examine.
>
>Shoot the tape well enough, and you may not even need the appointment.
>:-)
>
>'Curly'

gotcha. I'll wait for the temperature to rise again and I'll have my
trusty camcorder with me then. Right now, I'm just not getting any
"action" from the Pilot :-)