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Hachiroku ハチロク 05-16-2007 11:14 PM

Re: Brake servicing FAQ page update...
 
On Wed, 16 May 2007 14:23:41 +0000, Tegger wrote:

>
>> if you want "real deal" brake lube, go for molykote m77. and if you
>> find an economic source of it, let me know!
>>
>>

>
> I see what you mean.
>
> I'm getting told by independent distributors that the smallest container
> Dow sells is a 33oz tub...at $247 Cdn.
>
> My local Acura dealer can sell me a 75g tube (2.5 oz) for $66. They get
> their M77 directly from Honda.



http://www.usededmonton.com/classifi...neous-for-sale



Hachiroku ハチロク 05-16-2007 11:14 PM

Re: Brake servicing FAQ page update...
 
On Wed, 16 May 2007 14:23:41 +0000, Tegger wrote:

>
>> if you want "real deal" brake lube, go for molykote m77. and if you
>> find an economic source of it, let me know!
>>
>>

>
> I see what you mean.
>
> I'm getting told by independent distributors that the smallest container
> Dow sells is a 33oz tub...at $247 Cdn.
>
> My local Acura dealer can sell me a 75g tube (2.5 oz) for $66. They get
> their M77 directly from Honda.



http://www.usededmonton.com/classifi...neous-for-sale



Tegger 05-17-2007 06:33 AM

Re: Brake servicing FAQ page update...
 
Skate <skat3e123NOSPAM@yahoo.net> wrote in
news:to8n43hv8ejuf2j8mdg4mgms31j9fgujek@4ax.com:

> On Wed, 16 May 2007 06:22:40 -0700, jim beam
> <spamvortex@bad.example.net> wrote:
>

it.
>>
>>if you want "real deal" brake lube, go for molykote m77. and if you
>>find an economic source of it, let me know!

>
> When using Honda OEM pads they come with a small packet of molykote
> m77.
>



Not all of them. Mine do not.

--
Tegger

The Unofficial Honda/Acura FAQ
www.tegger.com/hondafaq/

Tegger 05-17-2007 06:33 AM

Re: Brake servicing FAQ page update...
 
Skate <skat3e123NOSPAM@yahoo.net> wrote in
news:to8n43hv8ejuf2j8mdg4mgms31j9fgujek@4ax.com:

> On Wed, 16 May 2007 06:22:40 -0700, jim beam
> <spamvortex@bad.example.net> wrote:
>

it.
>>
>>if you want "real deal" brake lube, go for molykote m77. and if you
>>find an economic source of it, let me know!

>
> When using Honda OEM pads they come with a small packet of molykote
> m77.
>



Not all of them. Mine do not.

--
Tegger

The Unofficial Honda/Acura FAQ
www.tegger.com/hondafaq/

Tegger 05-17-2007 06:33 AM

Re: Brake servicing FAQ page update...
 
"Brian Smith" <Halifax@NovaScotia.Canada> wrote in
news:YsK2i.17924$g63.15202@edtnps82:

>
> "Tegger" <tegger@tegger.c0m> wrote in message
> news:Xns99325D90BC51tegger@207.14.116.130...
>>I have a (possible) confession to make. It's lengthy, but please read
>> it.
>>
>> I have heretofore been advocating the use of copious quantities of
>> anti- seize in certain locations during brake servicing in order to
>> prevent corrosion and seizure of various parts.
>>
>> Since the government banned asbestos as a friction material (~1995),
>> I have had, off and on, problems with glaze on my rotors. Glaze is a
>> smeary, patchy, durable black substance, which no solvent can
>> dissolve. You can't even sand it off. The only way of getting rid of
>> it is to machine the rotors.

>
> Actually if you drive your vehicle at highway speeds while
> appyling the
> brakes lightly, the glaze will be worn off the pads/shoes and drums or
> rotors.



Tried that. Doesn't work if the pads are bad.



--
Tegger

The Unofficial Honda/Acura FAQ
www.tegger.com/hondafaq/

Tegger 05-17-2007 06:33 AM

Re: Brake servicing FAQ page update...
 
"Brian Smith" <Halifax@NovaScotia.Canada> wrote in
news:YsK2i.17924$g63.15202@edtnps82:

>
> "Tegger" <tegger@tegger.c0m> wrote in message
> news:Xns99325D90BC51tegger@207.14.116.130...
>>I have a (possible) confession to make. It's lengthy, but please read
>> it.
>>
>> I have heretofore been advocating the use of copious quantities of
>> anti- seize in certain locations during brake servicing in order to
>> prevent corrosion and seizure of various parts.
>>
>> Since the government banned asbestos as a friction material (~1995),
>> I have had, off and on, problems with glaze on my rotors. Glaze is a
>> smeary, patchy, durable black substance, which no solvent can
>> dissolve. You can't even sand it off. The only way of getting rid of
>> it is to machine the rotors.

>
> Actually if you drive your vehicle at highway speeds while
> appyling the
> brakes lightly, the glaze will be worn off the pads/shoes and drums or
> rotors.



Tried that. Doesn't work if the pads are bad.



--
Tegger

The Unofficial Honda/Acura FAQ
www.tegger.com/hondafaq/

Tegger 05-17-2007 07:23 AM

Re: Brake servicing FAQ page update...
 
=?iso-2022-jp?q?Hachiroku_=1B$B%O%A%m%=2F=1B=28B?= <Trueno@AE86.gts>
wrote in news:EMP2i.7464$vu2.228@trndny01:

> On Wed, 16 May 2007 14:23:41 +0000, Tegger wrote:
>
>>
>>> if you want "real deal" brake lube, go for molykote m77. and if you
>>> find an economic source of it, let me know!
>>>
>>>

>>
>> I see what you mean.
>>
>> I'm getting told by independent distributors that the smallest
>> container Dow sells is a 33oz tub...at $247 Cdn.
>>
>> My local Acura dealer can sell me a 75g tube (2.5 oz) for $66. They
>> get their M77 directly from Honda.

>
>
> http://www.usededmonton.com/classifi...=miscellaneous
> -for-sale
>
>




Cool. But that can looks like it's kinda old.

Sure it's "new" government surplus, but the government got rid of it for a
reason...

--
Tegger

The Unofficial Honda/Acura FAQ
www.tegger.com/hondafaq/

Tegger 05-17-2007 07:23 AM

Re: Brake servicing FAQ page update...
 
=?iso-2022-jp?q?Hachiroku_=1B$B%O%A%m%=2F=1B=28B?= <Trueno@AE86.gts>
wrote in news:EMP2i.7464$vu2.228@trndny01:

> On Wed, 16 May 2007 14:23:41 +0000, Tegger wrote:
>
>>
>>> if you want "real deal" brake lube, go for molykote m77. and if you
>>> find an economic source of it, let me know!
>>>
>>>

>>
>> I see what you mean.
>>
>> I'm getting told by independent distributors that the smallest
>> container Dow sells is a 33oz tub...at $247 Cdn.
>>
>> My local Acura dealer can sell me a 75g tube (2.5 oz) for $66. They
>> get their M77 directly from Honda.

>
>
> http://www.usededmonton.com/classifi...=miscellaneous
> -for-sale
>
>




Cool. But that can looks like it's kinda old.

Sure it's "new" government surplus, but the government got rid of it for a
reason...

--
Tegger

The Unofficial Honda/Acura FAQ
www.tegger.com/hondafaq/

Hachiroku ハチロク 05-17-2007 11:00 AM

Re: Brake servicing FAQ page update...
 
On Thu, 17 May 2007 11:23:07 +0000, Tegger wrote:

>>> I'm getting told by independent distributors that the smallest
>>> container Dow sells is a 33oz tub...at $247 Cdn.
>>>
>>> My local Acura dealer can sell me a 75g tube (2.5 oz) for $66. They get
>>> their M77 directly from Honda.

>>
>>
>> http://www.usededmonton.com/classifi...=miscellaneous
>> -for-sale
>>
>>
>>

>
>
> Cool. But that can looks like it's kinda old.
>
> Sure it's "new" government surplus, but the government got rid of it for a
> reason...



That stuff is harder than HELL to find, and doesn't seem to be sold in the
US!

Guess I'll stick to my off the rack AutoZone brake grease!



Hachiroku ハチロク 05-17-2007 11:00 AM

Re: Brake servicing FAQ page update...
 
On Thu, 17 May 2007 11:23:07 +0000, Tegger wrote:

>>> I'm getting told by independent distributors that the smallest
>>> container Dow sells is a 33oz tub...at $247 Cdn.
>>>
>>> My local Acura dealer can sell me a 75g tube (2.5 oz) for $66. They get
>>> their M77 directly from Honda.

>>
>>
>> http://www.usededmonton.com/classifi...=miscellaneous
>> -for-sale
>>
>>
>>

>
>
> Cool. But that can looks like it's kinda old.
>
> Sure it's "new" government surplus, but the government got rid of it for a
> reason...



That stuff is harder than HELL to find, and doesn't seem to be sold in the
US!

Guess I'll stick to my off the rack AutoZone brake grease!



Tegger 05-17-2007 02:46 PM

Re: Brake servicing FAQ page update...
 
=?iso-2022-jp?q?Hachiroku_=1B$B%O%A%m%=2F=1B=28B?= <Trueno@AE86.gts>
wrote in news:K6_2i.7490$4a1.7359@trndny07:

> On Thu, 17 May 2007 11:23:07 +0000, Tegger wrote:
>
>>>> I'm getting told by independent distributors that the smallest
>>>> container Dow sells is a 33oz tub...at $247 Cdn.
>>>>
>>>> My local Acura dealer can sell me a 75g tube (2.5 oz) for $66. They
>>>> get their M77 directly from Honda.
>>>
>>>
>>> http://www.usededmonton.com/classifi...ry=miscellaneo
>>> us -for-sale
>>>
>>>
>>>

>>
>>
>> Cool. But that can looks like it's kinda old.
>>
>> Sure it's "new" government surplus, but the government got rid of it
>> for a reason...

>
>
> That stuff is harder than HELL to find, and doesn't seem to be sold in
> the US!




It is. Click here:
<http://www.dowcorning.com/applications/search/default.aspx?country=USA&R=25EN>

Click on "Find a Distributor" and choose your state.


>
> Guess I'll stick to my off the rack AutoZone brake grease!
>
>



I'm gonna bite the bullet and buy the $66 2.5oz tube. I feel the same
sort of awe I felt when I bought my first genuine Snap-On wrench:
Wowwwww...the REAL thing...


--
Tegger

The Unofficial Honda/Acura FAQ
www.tegger.com/hondafaq/

Tegger 05-17-2007 02:46 PM

Re: Brake servicing FAQ page update...
 
=?iso-2022-jp?q?Hachiroku_=1B$B%O%A%m%=2F=1B=28B?= <Trueno@AE86.gts>
wrote in news:K6_2i.7490$4a1.7359@trndny07:

> On Thu, 17 May 2007 11:23:07 +0000, Tegger wrote:
>
>>>> I'm getting told by independent distributors that the smallest
>>>> container Dow sells is a 33oz tub...at $247 Cdn.
>>>>
>>>> My local Acura dealer can sell me a 75g tube (2.5 oz) for $66. They
>>>> get their M77 directly from Honda.
>>>
>>>
>>> http://www.usededmonton.com/classifi...ry=miscellaneo
>>> us -for-sale
>>>
>>>
>>>

>>
>>
>> Cool. But that can looks like it's kinda old.
>>
>> Sure it's "new" government surplus, but the government got rid of it
>> for a reason...

>
>
> That stuff is harder than HELL to find, and doesn't seem to be sold in
> the US!




It is. Click here:
<http://www.dowcorning.com/applications/search/default.aspx?country=USA&R=25EN>

Click on "Find a Distributor" and choose your state.


>
> Guess I'll stick to my off the rack AutoZone brake grease!
>
>



I'm gonna bite the bullet and buy the $66 2.5oz tube. I feel the same
sort of awe I felt when I bought my first genuine Snap-On wrench:
Wowwwww...the REAL thing...


--
Tegger

The Unofficial Honda/Acura FAQ
www.tegger.com/hondafaq/

Brian Smith 05-17-2007 05:17 PM

Re: Brake servicing FAQ page update...
 

"Tegger" <tegger@tegger.c0m> wrote in message
news:Xns993342C45E1BCtegger@207.14.116.130...
>
> Tried that. Doesn't work if the pads are bad.


Interesting.



Brian Smith 05-17-2007 05:17 PM

Re: Brake servicing FAQ page update...
 

"Tegger" <tegger@tegger.c0m> wrote in message
news:Xns993342C45E1BCtegger@207.14.116.130...
>
> Tried that. Doesn't work if the pads are bad.


Interesting.



Tegger 05-17-2007 09:01 PM

Re: Brake servicing FAQ page update...
 
"Brian Smith" <Halifax@NovaScotia.Canada> wrote in news:5E33i.22454
$V75.3804@edtnps89:

>
> "Tegger" <tegger@tegger.c0m> wrote in message
> news:Xns993342C45E1BCtegger@207.14.116.130...
>>
>> Tried that. Doesn't work if the pads are bad.

>
> Interesting.
>
>



I tried and failed to take descriptive photos of my rear discs, whose
friction surfaces resemble the dark gray coating worn by a rifle barrel.

The fronts had patchy glaze, where the outline of the pads was imprinted
over and over again in an irregular pattern around the disc, some lighter,
some heavier.

I had some serious front brake vibration. A check with a dial gauge showed
the discs to be dead true, and yet I had a high-speed vibration. The only
conclusion I can come to at this point (surely to be opposed by some
others...) is that the glaze caused sufficient frictional differences as to
cause steering wheel wobble ("vibration").


--
Tegger

The Unofficial Honda/Acura FAQ
www.tegger.com/hondafaq/


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