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Break-ins due to window/lock exploit
I have a 96 Honda Civic with manual door locks. I have had my car broken in
to three times is the last ten months.(two times in the last three days.) I live in a apartment complex nice enough to attract thieves, however not nice enough to have overnight security. The break-ins were done in large waves. All the cars broken into on these nights were Hondas that cover the whole of the complex. In all three instances the police told me that Hondas are easily broken into due to an "exploit" in the windows/door locks. Is there a manufacture recall or a way to fix this problem? Thanks for any help you can offer. WooHoo2You |
Re: Break-ins due to window/lock exploit
In article <Obcje.7533$w21.6398@newsread3.news.atl.earthlink. net>,
"WooHoo2You" <no@email.com> wrote: > I have a 96 Honda Civic with manual door locks. I have had my car broken in > to three times is the last ten months.(two times in the last three days.) I > live in a apartment complex nice enough to attract thieves, however not nice > enough to have overnight security. The break-ins were done in large waves. > All the cars broken into on these nights were Hondas that cover the whole of > the complex. In all three instances the police told me that Hondas are > easily broken into due to an "exploit" in the windows/door locks. > > Is there a manufacture recall or a way to fix this problem? > > Thanks for any help you can offer. > > WooHoo2You I don't know of a fix. The person or persons that broke into your car probably used what is known as a "slim-jim". The owners of tow trucks carry them to open the cars of people that lock their keys inside their vehicles. All car thiefs have them and they can easily be home made. They can used to break in almost any car regardless of the company that made the car. They usually go after older cars that are not likely to have car alarms. I advise you to buy a car alarm and install it. In addition, put stickers on both front windows indicating that you have a car alarm installed. -- NEWSGROUP SUBSCRIBERS MOTTO We respect those subscribers that ask for advice or provide advice. We do NOT respect the subscribers that enjoy criticizing people. |
Re: Break-ins due to window/lock exploit
In article <Obcje.7533$w21.6398@newsread3.news.atl.earthlink. net>,
"WooHoo2You" <no@email.com> wrote: > I have a 96 Honda Civic with manual door locks. I have had my car broken in > to three times is the last ten months.(two times in the last three days.) I > live in a apartment complex nice enough to attract thieves, however not nice > enough to have overnight security. The break-ins were done in large waves. > All the cars broken into on these nights were Hondas that cover the whole of > the complex. In all three instances the police told me that Hondas are > easily broken into due to an "exploit" in the windows/door locks. > > Is there a manufacture recall or a way to fix this problem? > > Thanks for any help you can offer. > > WooHoo2You I don't know of a fix. The person or persons that broke into your car probably used what is known as a "slim-jim". The owners of tow trucks carry them to open the cars of people that lock their keys inside their vehicles. All car thiefs have them and they can easily be home made. They can used to break in almost any car regardless of the company that made the car. They usually go after older cars that are not likely to have car alarms. I advise you to buy a car alarm and install it. In addition, put stickers on both front windows indicating that you have a car alarm installed. -- NEWSGROUP SUBSCRIBERS MOTTO We respect those subscribers that ask for advice or provide advice. We do NOT respect the subscribers that enjoy criticizing people. |
Re: Break-ins due to window/lock exploit
I do not know if they used a slim jim. I do know that the pressed the
window down almost an inch, and caused damage to the rubber weathering strips that seal the top section of the glass to the door's frame. WooHoo2You "Jason" <jason@nospam.com> wrote in message news:jason-1905052013010001@pm1-broad-125.snlo.dialup.fix.net... > In article <Obcje.7533$w21.6398@newsread3.news.atl.earthlink. net>, > "WooHoo2You" <no@email.com> wrote: > >> I have a 96 Honda Civic with manual door locks. I have had my car broken >> in >> to three times is the last ten months.(two times in the last three days.) >> I >> live in a apartment complex nice enough to attract thieves, however not >> nice >> enough to have overnight security. The break-ins were done in large >> waves. >> All the cars broken into on these nights were Hondas that cover the whole >> of >> the complex. In all three instances the police told me that Hondas are >> easily broken into due to an "exploit" in the windows/door locks. >> >> Is there a manufacture recall or a way to fix this problem? >> >> Thanks for any help you can offer. >> >> WooHoo2You > > I don't know of a fix. The person or persons that broke into your car > probably used what is known as a "slim-jim". The owners of tow trucks > carry them to open the cars of people that lock their keys inside their > vehicles. All car thiefs have them and they can easily be home made. They > can used to break in almost any car regardless of the company that made > the car. They usually go after older cars that are not likely to have car > alarms. I advise you to buy a car alarm and install it. In addition, put > stickers on both front windows indicating that you have a car alarm > installed. > > -- > NEWSGROUP SUBSCRIBERS MOTTO > We respect those subscribers that ask for advice or provide advice. > We do NOT respect the subscribers that enjoy criticizing people. > > > |
Re: Break-ins due to window/lock exploit
I do not know if they used a slim jim. I do know that the pressed the
window down almost an inch, and caused damage to the rubber weathering strips that seal the top section of the glass to the door's frame. WooHoo2You "Jason" <jason@nospam.com> wrote in message news:jason-1905052013010001@pm1-broad-125.snlo.dialup.fix.net... > In article <Obcje.7533$w21.6398@newsread3.news.atl.earthlink. net>, > "WooHoo2You" <no@email.com> wrote: > >> I have a 96 Honda Civic with manual door locks. I have had my car broken >> in >> to three times is the last ten months.(two times in the last three days.) >> I >> live in a apartment complex nice enough to attract thieves, however not >> nice >> enough to have overnight security. The break-ins were done in large >> waves. >> All the cars broken into on these nights were Hondas that cover the whole >> of >> the complex. In all three instances the police told me that Hondas are >> easily broken into due to an "exploit" in the windows/door locks. >> >> Is there a manufacture recall or a way to fix this problem? >> >> Thanks for any help you can offer. >> >> WooHoo2You > > I don't know of a fix. The person or persons that broke into your car > probably used what is known as a "slim-jim". The owners of tow trucks > carry them to open the cars of people that lock their keys inside their > vehicles. All car thiefs have them and they can easily be home made. They > can used to break in almost any car regardless of the company that made > the car. They usually go after older cars that are not likely to have car > alarms. I advise you to buy a car alarm and install it. In addition, put > stickers on both front windows indicating that you have a car alarm > installed. > > -- > NEWSGROUP SUBSCRIBERS MOTTO > We respect those subscribers that ask for advice or provide advice. > We do NOT respect the subscribers that enjoy criticizing people. > > > |
Re: Break-ins due to window/lock exploit
"WooHoo2You" <no@email.com> wrote in message
news:AHcje.4748$uR4.1456@newsread2.news.atl.earthl ink.net... >I do not know if they used a slim jim. I do know that the pressed the >window down almost an inch, and caused damage to the rubber weathering >strips that seal the top section of the glass to the door's frame. > That sounds like the way the road service guy opened my son's '89 Accord LXi when he locked the keys in it. No go with the slim jim - there was just nothing to grab that would move the direction he needed to go to unlock the door. He next tried to push the driver's window down, but just couldn't get the gap he needed without damaging something. Then he got a pair of padded pry bars and a pair of padded wooden wedges out and worked at making a gap between the door and the body at the top rear corner of the driver's door. About 5 minutes of that opened a gap he could get a stiff wire in and flip the lock lever. That guy earned his $35, I'll tell you! (Probably all cars can be opened that way, I'm guessing.) Mike |
Re: Break-ins due to window/lock exploit
"WooHoo2You" <no@email.com> wrote in message
news:AHcje.4748$uR4.1456@newsread2.news.atl.earthl ink.net... >I do not know if they used a slim jim. I do know that the pressed the >window down almost an inch, and caused damage to the rubber weathering >strips that seal the top section of the glass to the door's frame. > That sounds like the way the road service guy opened my son's '89 Accord LXi when he locked the keys in it. No go with the slim jim - there was just nothing to grab that would move the direction he needed to go to unlock the door. He next tried to push the driver's window down, but just couldn't get the gap he needed without damaging something. Then he got a pair of padded pry bars and a pair of padded wooden wedges out and worked at making a gap between the door and the body at the top rear corner of the driver's door. About 5 minutes of that opened a gap he could get a stiff wire in and flip the lock lever. That guy earned his $35, I'll tell you! (Probably all cars can be opened that way, I'm guessing.) Mike |
Re: Break-ins due to window/lock exploit
I just find it strange that all the cars that were broken into were Hondas,
and the exact same way, on all there occasions. I love my Civic, and would only trade-up for another Honda, however at this point I am second guessing my decision on new car purchases. (it just kills me when I walk to my car and all of my belongings on the wet ground beside my car, or a police officer coming to my door to inform me of the wonderful news.) WooHoo2You "Michael Pardee" <michaeltnull@cybertrails.com> wrote in message news:-o2dnf4d98lLwxDfRVn-3g@sedona.net... > "WooHoo2You" <no@email.com> wrote in message > news:AHcje.4748$uR4.1456@newsread2.news.atl.earthl ink.net... >>I do not know if they used a slim jim. I do know that the pressed the >>window down almost an inch, and caused damage to the rubber weathering >>strips that seal the top section of the glass to the door's frame. >> > > That sounds like the way the road service guy opened my son's '89 Accord > LXi when he locked the keys in it. No go with the slim jim - there was > just nothing to grab that would move the direction he needed to go to > unlock the door. He next tried to push the driver's window down, but just > couldn't get the gap he needed without damaging something. Then he got a > pair of padded pry bars and a pair of padded wooden wedges out and worked > at making a gap between the door and the body at the top rear corner of > the driver's door. About 5 minutes of that opened a gap he could get a > stiff wire in and flip the lock lever. That guy earned his $35, I'll tell > you! > > (Probably all cars can be opened that way, I'm guessing.) > > Mike > |
Re: Break-ins due to window/lock exploit
I just find it strange that all the cars that were broken into were Hondas,
and the exact same way, on all there occasions. I love my Civic, and would only trade-up for another Honda, however at this point I am second guessing my decision on new car purchases. (it just kills me when I walk to my car and all of my belongings on the wet ground beside my car, or a police officer coming to my door to inform me of the wonderful news.) WooHoo2You "Michael Pardee" <michaeltnull@cybertrails.com> wrote in message news:-o2dnf4d98lLwxDfRVn-3g@sedona.net... > "WooHoo2You" <no@email.com> wrote in message > news:AHcje.4748$uR4.1456@newsread2.news.atl.earthl ink.net... >>I do not know if they used a slim jim. I do know that the pressed the >>window down almost an inch, and caused damage to the rubber weathering >>strips that seal the top section of the glass to the door's frame. >> > > That sounds like the way the road service guy opened my son's '89 Accord > LXi when he locked the keys in it. No go with the slim jim - there was > just nothing to grab that would move the direction he needed to go to > unlock the door. He next tried to push the driver's window down, but just > couldn't get the gap he needed without damaging something. Then he got a > pair of padded pry bars and a pair of padded wooden wedges out and worked > at making a gap between the door and the body at the top rear corner of > the driver's door. About 5 minutes of that opened a gap he could get a > stiff wire in and flip the lock lever. That guy earned his $35, I'll tell > you! > > (Probably all cars can be opened that way, I'm guessing.) > > Mike > |
Re: Break-ins due to window/lock exploit
WooHoo2You wrote:
| I just find it strange that all the cars that were broken into were | Hondas, and the exact same way, on all there occasions. I live in a complex, too, and had my car (Civic 88) broken into three times. Two times, it was the cheap "smash a window, yank the radio, run" trick (actually, once they only stole the face of the radio that was under the seat and left the radio in?!). When the third theft happened, I didn't even notice. As I was about to drive off in the morning, I noticed that the glove compartment was open. I tried remembering whether I had unlocked the car (happens automatically), and wasn't sure I actually had. Closer inspection showed that the car was broken into. Two (empty) packs of cigarettes were missing, nothing else. What *was* curious, though, was that on the driver side window, the little "nose"/tab that guides the window at the front top of the window when it meets the frame was missing. I found it next to the car on the ground, a little piece of metal with the (plastic-covered) nose. I could stick it back in and it's been there since. The same night a whole lot of other Hondas were broken into the same way. My carport neighbor told me that they only stole some mints out of her car, but she had the same symptom - that little nose missing. If I remember right, it's was an older (late 80s) Accord. So I guess there is a weak spot for those in the know with the lack of respect for others property. | I love my Civic, and would only trade-up for another Honda, however | at this point I am second guessing my decision on new car purchases. | (it just kills me when I walk to my car and all of my belongings on | the wet ground beside my car, or a police officer coming to my door | to inform me of the wonderful news.) Yeah that sucks. A few things to consider: - put in an alarm, or at least a blinking light. Even though nobody even notices alarms these days (at least not around where I live), it's still an added risk factor for a thief. Given two cars, side-by-side, one with a blinking light and the other without, which one would you pick? - *take out all valuables*. That includes empty bags that look like they could have a laptop computer etc. You can go as far as leaving the glove compartment open to show that there's nothing fancy inside. - (aftermarket stereo) - take off the face and out of the car. - (if nothing is worth stealing in the car) - consider even leaving it unlocked. That might sound radical but at least it saves you having to replace another window. - use an immobilizing device such as a club. Yes, those can be cracked as well (literally...) but it takes more time. Not worth for hobby thieves, and pros don't mess with crappy little Civics (no insult, I have one too ;) A friend had his (old beat up) Camry stolen for a joyride. Ever since then, I have a club on my wheel and leave nothing in it worth stealing. Knock on wood, it hasn't been broken into in the last 3 or so years... Oh - slimjimming these cars is *simple* - when I locked in my keys, the AAA guy that came needed about all of 7 seconds to have it open. || || WooHoo2You || || "Michael Pardee" <michaeltnull@cybertrails.com> wrote in message || news:-o2dnf4d98lLwxDfRVn-3g@sedona.net... ||| "WooHoo2You" <no@email.com> wrote in message ||| news:AHcje.4748$uR4.1456@newsread2.news.atl.earthl ink.net... |||| I do not know if they used a slim jim. I do know that the pressed |||| the window down almost an inch, and caused damage to the rubber |||| weathering strips that seal the top section of the glass to the |||| door's frame. |||| ||| ||| That sounds like the way the road service guy opened my son's '89 ||| Accord LXi when he locked the keys in it. No go with the slim jim - ||| there was just nothing to grab that would move the direction he ||| needed to go to unlock the door. He next tried to push the driver's ||| window down, but just couldn't get the gap he needed without ||| damaging something. Then he got a pair of padded pry bars and a ||| pair of padded wooden wedges out and worked at making a gap between ||| the door and the body at the top rear corner of the driver's door. ||| About 5 minutes of that opened a gap he could get a stiff wire in ||| and flip the lock lever. That guy earned his $35, I'll tell you! ||| ||| (Probably all cars can be opened that way, I'm guessing.) ||| ||| Mike |
Re: Break-ins due to window/lock exploit
WooHoo2You wrote:
| I just find it strange that all the cars that were broken into were | Hondas, and the exact same way, on all there occasions. I live in a complex, too, and had my car (Civic 88) broken into three times. Two times, it was the cheap "smash a window, yank the radio, run" trick (actually, once they only stole the face of the radio that was under the seat and left the radio in?!). When the third theft happened, I didn't even notice. As I was about to drive off in the morning, I noticed that the glove compartment was open. I tried remembering whether I had unlocked the car (happens automatically), and wasn't sure I actually had. Closer inspection showed that the car was broken into. Two (empty) packs of cigarettes were missing, nothing else. What *was* curious, though, was that on the driver side window, the little "nose"/tab that guides the window at the front top of the window when it meets the frame was missing. I found it next to the car on the ground, a little piece of metal with the (plastic-covered) nose. I could stick it back in and it's been there since. The same night a whole lot of other Hondas were broken into the same way. My carport neighbor told me that they only stole some mints out of her car, but she had the same symptom - that little nose missing. If I remember right, it's was an older (late 80s) Accord. So I guess there is a weak spot for those in the know with the lack of respect for others property. | I love my Civic, and would only trade-up for another Honda, however | at this point I am second guessing my decision on new car purchases. | (it just kills me when I walk to my car and all of my belongings on | the wet ground beside my car, or a police officer coming to my door | to inform me of the wonderful news.) Yeah that sucks. A few things to consider: - put in an alarm, or at least a blinking light. Even though nobody even notices alarms these days (at least not around where I live), it's still an added risk factor for a thief. Given two cars, side-by-side, one with a blinking light and the other without, which one would you pick? - *take out all valuables*. That includes empty bags that look like they could have a laptop computer etc. You can go as far as leaving the glove compartment open to show that there's nothing fancy inside. - (aftermarket stereo) - take off the face and out of the car. - (if nothing is worth stealing in the car) - consider even leaving it unlocked. That might sound radical but at least it saves you having to replace another window. - use an immobilizing device such as a club. Yes, those can be cracked as well (literally...) but it takes more time. Not worth for hobby thieves, and pros don't mess with crappy little Civics (no insult, I have one too ;) A friend had his (old beat up) Camry stolen for a joyride. Ever since then, I have a club on my wheel and leave nothing in it worth stealing. Knock on wood, it hasn't been broken into in the last 3 or so years... Oh - slimjimming these cars is *simple* - when I locked in my keys, the AAA guy that came needed about all of 7 seconds to have it open. || || WooHoo2You || || "Michael Pardee" <michaeltnull@cybertrails.com> wrote in message || news:-o2dnf4d98lLwxDfRVn-3g@sedona.net... ||| "WooHoo2You" <no@email.com> wrote in message ||| news:AHcje.4748$uR4.1456@newsread2.news.atl.earthl ink.net... |||| I do not know if they used a slim jim. I do know that the pressed |||| the window down almost an inch, and caused damage to the rubber |||| weathering strips that seal the top section of the glass to the |||| door's frame. |||| ||| ||| That sounds like the way the road service guy opened my son's '89 ||| Accord LXi when he locked the keys in it. No go with the slim jim - ||| there was just nothing to grab that would move the direction he ||| needed to go to unlock the door. He next tried to push the driver's ||| window down, but just couldn't get the gap he needed without ||| damaging something. Then he got a pair of padded pry bars and a ||| pair of padded wooden wedges out and worked at making a gap between ||| the door and the body at the top rear corner of the driver's door. ||| About 5 minutes of that opened a gap he could get a stiff wire in ||| and flip the lock lever. That guy earned his $35, I'll tell you! ||| ||| (Probably all cars can be opened that way, I'm guessing.) ||| ||| Mike |
Re: Break-ins due to window/lock exploit
"WooHoo2You" <no@email.com> wrote in
news:Obcje.7533$w21.6398@newsread3.news.atl.earthl ink.net: > I have a 96 Honda Civic with manual door locks. I have had my car > broken in to three times is the last ten months.(two times in the last > three days.) I live in a apartment complex nice enough to attract > thieves, however not nice enough to have overnight security. The > break-ins were done in large waves. All the cars broken into on these > nights were Hondas that cover the whole of the complex. In all three > instances the police told me that Hondas are easily broken into due to > an "exploit" in the windows/door locks. > > Is there a manufacture recall or a way to fix this problem? > > Thanks for any help you can offer. One workaround that is apparently common in Britain, which also has very high auto break-in rates, is simply to leave the doors UNLOCKED, and ALL valuables removed. The crooks can enter without causing damage, look around, and hopefully leave emptyhanded. -- TeGGeR® The Unofficial Honda/Acura FAQ www.tegger.com/hondafaq/ |
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"WooHoo2You" <no@email.com> wrote in
news:Obcje.7533$w21.6398@newsread3.news.atl.earthl ink.net: > I have a 96 Honda Civic with manual door locks. I have had my car > broken in to three times is the last ten months.(two times in the last > three days.) I live in a apartment complex nice enough to attract > thieves, however not nice enough to have overnight security. The > break-ins were done in large waves. All the cars broken into on these > nights were Hondas that cover the whole of the complex. In all three > instances the police told me that Hondas are easily broken into due to > an "exploit" in the windows/door locks. > > Is there a manufacture recall or a way to fix this problem? > > Thanks for any help you can offer. One workaround that is apparently common in Britain, which also has very high auto break-in rates, is simply to leave the doors UNLOCKED, and ALL valuables removed. The crooks can enter without causing damage, look around, and hopefully leave emptyhanded. -- TeGGeR® The Unofficial Honda/Acura FAQ www.tegger.com/hondafaq/ |
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"TeGGeR®" <tegger@tegger.c0m> wrote in
news:Xns965C4C074CEE1tegger@207.14.113.17: > "WooHoo2You" <no@email.com> wrote in > news:Obcje.7533$w21.6398@newsread3.news.atl.earthl ink.net: > >> I have a 96 Honda Civic with manual door locks. I have had my car >> broken in to three times is the last ten months.(two times in the last >> three days.) I live in a apartment complex nice enough to attract >> thieves, however not nice enough to have overnight security. The >> break-ins were done in large waves. All the cars broken into on these >> nights were Hondas that cover the whole of the complex. In all three >> instances the police told me that Hondas are easily broken into due to >> an "exploit" in the windows/door locks. >> >> Is there a manufacture recall or a way to fix this problem? >> >> Thanks for any help you can offer. > > > > One workaround that is apparently common in Britain, which also has very > high auto break-in rates, is simply to leave the doors UNLOCKED, and ALL > valuables removed. > > The crooks can enter without causing damage, look around, and hopefully > leave emptyhanded. > > Of course,they might be after PARTS of your car itself,like the ECU;a part of your car that is very valuable,and absolutely necessary to operate your car.It will NOT run without it. -- Jim Yanik jyanik at kua.net |
Re: Break-ins due to window/lock exploit
"TeGGeR®" <tegger@tegger.c0m> wrote in
news:Xns965C4C074CEE1tegger@207.14.113.17: > "WooHoo2You" <no@email.com> wrote in > news:Obcje.7533$w21.6398@newsread3.news.atl.earthl ink.net: > >> I have a 96 Honda Civic with manual door locks. I have had my car >> broken in to three times is the last ten months.(two times in the last >> three days.) I live in a apartment complex nice enough to attract >> thieves, however not nice enough to have overnight security. The >> break-ins were done in large waves. All the cars broken into on these >> nights were Hondas that cover the whole of the complex. In all three >> instances the police told me that Hondas are easily broken into due to >> an "exploit" in the windows/door locks. >> >> Is there a manufacture recall or a way to fix this problem? >> >> Thanks for any help you can offer. > > > > One workaround that is apparently common in Britain, which also has very > high auto break-in rates, is simply to leave the doors UNLOCKED, and ALL > valuables removed. > > The crooks can enter without causing damage, look around, and hopefully > leave emptyhanded. > > Of course,they might be after PARTS of your car itself,like the ECU;a part of your car that is very valuable,and absolutely necessary to operate your car.It will NOT run without it. -- Jim Yanik jyanik at kua.net |
Re: Break-ins due to window/lock exploit
Jim Yanik <jyanik@abuse.gov.> wrote in
news:Xns965C79FEC89CDjyanikkuanet@129.250.170.84: > "TeGGeR®" <tegger@tegger.c0m> wrote in > news:Xns965C4C074CEE1tegger@207.14.113.17: >> >> One workaround that is apparently common in Britain, which also has >> very high auto break-in rates, is simply to leave the doors UNLOCKED, >> and ALL valuables removed. >> >> The crooks can enter without causing damage, look around, and >> hopefully leave emptyhanded. >> >> > > Of course,they might be after PARTS of your car itself,like the ECU;a > part of your car that is very valuable,and absolutely necessary to > operate your car.It will NOT run without it. > And that approach would not have helped my sister either, as they were after her airbags. But then again, they got them anyway, even with the doors locked. -- TeGGeR® The Unofficial Honda/Acura FAQ www.tegger.com/hondafaq/ |
Re: Break-ins due to window/lock exploit
Jim Yanik <jyanik@abuse.gov.> wrote in
news:Xns965C79FEC89CDjyanikkuanet@129.250.170.84: > "TeGGeR®" <tegger@tegger.c0m> wrote in > news:Xns965C4C074CEE1tegger@207.14.113.17: >> >> One workaround that is apparently common in Britain, which also has >> very high auto break-in rates, is simply to leave the doors UNLOCKED, >> and ALL valuables removed. >> >> The crooks can enter without causing damage, look around, and >> hopefully leave emptyhanded. >> >> > > Of course,they might be after PARTS of your car itself,like the ECU;a > part of your car that is very valuable,and absolutely necessary to > operate your car.It will NOT run without it. > And that approach would not have helped my sister either, as they were after her airbags. But then again, they got them anyway, even with the doors locked. -- TeGGeR® The Unofficial Honda/Acura FAQ www.tegger.com/hondafaq/ |
Re: Break-ins due to window/lock exploit
"TeGGeR®" <tegger@tegger.c0m> wrote in
news:Xns965C9095E654Ftegger@207.14.113.17: > Jim Yanik <jyanik@abuse.gov.> wrote in > news:Xns965C79FEC89CDjyanikkuanet@129.250.170.84: > >> "TeGGeR®" <tegger@tegger.c0m> wrote in >> news:Xns965C4C074CEE1tegger@207.14.113.17: > >>> >>> One workaround that is apparently common in Britain, which also has >>> very high auto break-in rates, is simply to leave the doors UNLOCKED, >>> and ALL valuables removed. >>> >>> The crooks can enter without causing damage, look around, and >>> hopefully leave emptyhanded. >>> >>> >> >> Of course,they might be after PARTS of your car itself,like the ECU;a >> part of your car that is very valuable,and absolutely necessary to >> operate your car.It will NOT run without it. >> > > > And that approach would not have helped my sister either, as they were > after her airbags. But then again, they got them anyway, even with the > doors locked. > At least the car can be driven without airbags. It cannot when your ECU is gone.(or your VTEC motor;note the "B" motors are no longer available.) -- Jim Yanik jyanik at kua.net |
Re: Break-ins due to window/lock exploit
"TeGGeR®" <tegger@tegger.c0m> wrote in
news:Xns965C9095E654Ftegger@207.14.113.17: > Jim Yanik <jyanik@abuse.gov.> wrote in > news:Xns965C79FEC89CDjyanikkuanet@129.250.170.84: > >> "TeGGeR®" <tegger@tegger.c0m> wrote in >> news:Xns965C4C074CEE1tegger@207.14.113.17: > >>> >>> One workaround that is apparently common in Britain, which also has >>> very high auto break-in rates, is simply to leave the doors UNLOCKED, >>> and ALL valuables removed. >>> >>> The crooks can enter without causing damage, look around, and >>> hopefully leave emptyhanded. >>> >>> >> >> Of course,they might be after PARTS of your car itself,like the ECU;a >> part of your car that is very valuable,and absolutely necessary to >> operate your car.It will NOT run without it. >> > > > And that approach would not have helped my sister either, as they were > after her airbags. But then again, they got them anyway, even with the > doors locked. > At least the car can be driven without airbags. It cannot when your ECU is gone.(or your VTEC motor;note the "B" motors are no longer available.) -- Jim Yanik jyanik at kua.net |
Re: Break-ins due to window/lock exploit
On Thu, 19 May 2005 20:51:44 -0700, "Michael Pardee"
<michaeltnull@cybertrails.com> wrote: >"WooHoo2You" <no@email.com> wrote in message >news:AHcje.4748$uR4.1456@newsread2.news.atl.earth link.net... >>I do not know if they used a slim jim. I do know that the pressed the >>window down almost an inch, and caused damage to the rubber weathering >>strips that seal the top section of the glass to the door's frame. >> > >That sounds like the way the road service guy opened my son's '89 Accord LXi >when he locked the keys in it. No go with the slim jim - there was just >nothing to grab that would move the direction he needed to go to unlock the >door. He next tried to push the driver's window down, but just couldn't get >the gap he needed without damaging something. Then he got a pair of padded >pry bars and a pair of padded wooden wedges out and worked at making a gap >between the door and the body at the top rear corner of the driver's door. >About 5 minutes of that opened a gap he could get a stiff wire in and flip >the lock lever. That guy earned his $35, I'll tell you! > >(Probably all cars can be opened that way, I'm guessing.) I had an 89 MG metro broken into that way. Went to the pub one night, left it there 9obviously) came back the next morning, drove to uni, when i got there, and was looking for somewhere to park, i thought the road noise was louder than suual. the passenger door (owhich would be the drivers door on a UK car0 had been pulled back in that way, it was about 3-4 inches away from the frame at the top. Never did get it bent all the way back in again. Ended up getting a new door from another car, and swapping the lock over. > >Mike > |
Re: Break-ins due to window/lock exploit
On Thu, 19 May 2005 20:51:44 -0700, "Michael Pardee"
<michaeltnull@cybertrails.com> wrote: >"WooHoo2You" <no@email.com> wrote in message >news:AHcje.4748$uR4.1456@newsread2.news.atl.earth link.net... >>I do not know if they used a slim jim. I do know that the pressed the >>window down almost an inch, and caused damage to the rubber weathering >>strips that seal the top section of the glass to the door's frame. >> > >That sounds like the way the road service guy opened my son's '89 Accord LXi >when he locked the keys in it. No go with the slim jim - there was just >nothing to grab that would move the direction he needed to go to unlock the >door. He next tried to push the driver's window down, but just couldn't get >the gap he needed without damaging something. Then he got a pair of padded >pry bars and a pair of padded wooden wedges out and worked at making a gap >between the door and the body at the top rear corner of the driver's door. >About 5 minutes of that opened a gap he could get a stiff wire in and flip >the lock lever. That guy earned his $35, I'll tell you! > >(Probably all cars can be opened that way, I'm guessing.) I had an 89 MG metro broken into that way. Went to the pub one night, left it there 9obviously) came back the next morning, drove to uni, when i got there, and was looking for somewhere to park, i thought the road noise was louder than suual. the passenger door (owhich would be the drivers door on a UK car0 had been pulled back in that way, it was about 3-4 inches away from the frame at the top. Never did get it bent all the way back in again. Ended up getting a new door from another car, and swapping the lock over. > >Mike > |
Re: Break-ins due to window/lock exploit
On 20 May 2005 11:28:31 GMT, "TeGGeR®" <tegger@tegger.c0m> wrote:
>"WooHoo2You" <no@email.com> wrote in >news:Obcje.7533$w21.6398@newsread3.news.atl.earth link.net: > >> I have a 96 Honda Civic with manual door locks. I have had my car >> broken in to three times is the last ten months.(two times in the last >> three days.) I live in a apartment complex nice enough to attract >> thieves, however not nice enough to have overnight security. The >> break-ins were done in large waves. All the cars broken into on these >> nights were Hondas that cover the whole of the complex. In all three >> instances the police told me that Hondas are easily broken into due to >> an "exploit" in the windows/door locks. >> >> Is there a manufacture recall or a way to fix this problem? >> >> Thanks for any help you can offer. > > > >One workaround that is apparently common in Britain, which also has very >high auto break-in rates, is simply to leave the doors UNLOCKED, and ALL >valuables removed. > >The crooks can enter without causing damage, look around, and hopefully >leave emptyhanded. hopefully not IN you car.... Used to leave mine locked all the time in the UK. Even more than a few times, i'd locked myself out of the car, wait for it (its funny) with the engine running. I'd have blocked the exhaust to stop it too, but i'd stopped to lift the bonnet, because the exhaust had just come off the manifold...lost nearly a full tank of petrol, and 4 plugs. |
Re: Break-ins due to window/lock exploit
On 20 May 2005 11:28:31 GMT, "TeGGeR®" <tegger@tegger.c0m> wrote:
>"WooHoo2You" <no@email.com> wrote in >news:Obcje.7533$w21.6398@newsread3.news.atl.earth link.net: > >> I have a 96 Honda Civic with manual door locks. I have had my car >> broken in to three times is the last ten months.(two times in the last >> three days.) I live in a apartment complex nice enough to attract >> thieves, however not nice enough to have overnight security. The >> break-ins were done in large waves. All the cars broken into on these >> nights were Hondas that cover the whole of the complex. In all three >> instances the police told me that Hondas are easily broken into due to >> an "exploit" in the windows/door locks. >> >> Is there a manufacture recall or a way to fix this problem? >> >> Thanks for any help you can offer. > > > >One workaround that is apparently common in Britain, which also has very >high auto break-in rates, is simply to leave the doors UNLOCKED, and ALL >valuables removed. > >The crooks can enter without causing damage, look around, and hopefully >leave emptyhanded. hopefully not IN you car.... Used to leave mine locked all the time in the UK. Even more than a few times, i'd locked myself out of the car, wait for it (its funny) with the engine running. I'd have blocked the exhaust to stop it too, but i'd stopped to lift the bonnet, because the exhaust had just come off the manifold...lost nearly a full tank of petrol, and 4 plugs. |
Re: Break-ins due to window/lock exploit
K`Tetch <no.email@here.for.you> wrote in
news:190t819dbe4as41veafm072va8f4gemt9u@4ax.com: > > Used to leave mine locked all the time in the UK. Even more than a few > times, i'd locked myself out of the car, wait for it (its funny) with > the engine running. I did that once too! The car ran for almost two hours before the tow truck driver arrived and popped the door open (I was in the middle of nowhere). I later solved that by disconnecting my "key in" warning beep. Now that there's nothing to save me, I have not locked myself out again in 13 years. -- TeGGeR® The Unofficial Honda/Acura FAQ www.tegger.com/hondafaq/ |
Re: Break-ins due to window/lock exploit
K`Tetch <no.email@here.for.you> wrote in
news:190t819dbe4as41veafm072va8f4gemt9u@4ax.com: > > Used to leave mine locked all the time in the UK. Even more than a few > times, i'd locked myself out of the car, wait for it (its funny) with > the engine running. I did that once too! The car ran for almost two hours before the tow truck driver arrived and popped the door open (I was in the middle of nowhere). I later solved that by disconnecting my "key in" warning beep. Now that there's nothing to save me, I have not locked myself out again in 13 years. -- TeGGeR® The Unofficial Honda/Acura FAQ www.tegger.com/hondafaq/ |
Re: Break-ins due to window/lock exploit
"Jim Yanik" <jyanik@abuse.gov.> wrote in message
news:Xns965CC906FA3EFjyanikkuanet@129.250.170.86.. . > "TeGGeR®" <tegger@tegger.c0m> wrote in > news:Xns965C9095E654Ftegger@207.14.113.17: >> And that approach would not have helped my sister either, as they were >> after her airbags. But then again, they got them anyway, even with the >> doors locked. >> > > At least the car can be driven without airbags. > It cannot when your ECU is gone.(or your VTEC motor;note the "B" motors > are > no longer available.) > > -- Although an ECU can be had for as little as $75 for most models at a wrecking yard; air bags are a bigger headache. The legality and acceptability of used air bags is marginal at best, so they are popular black market items. http://www.asashop.org/news/march99/nace.htm Mike |
Re: Break-ins due to window/lock exploit
"Jim Yanik" <jyanik@abuse.gov.> wrote in message
news:Xns965CC906FA3EFjyanikkuanet@129.250.170.86.. . > "TeGGeR®" <tegger@tegger.c0m> wrote in > news:Xns965C9095E654Ftegger@207.14.113.17: >> And that approach would not have helped my sister either, as they were >> after her airbags. But then again, they got them anyway, even with the >> doors locked. >> > > At least the car can be driven without airbags. > It cannot when your ECU is gone.(or your VTEC motor;note the "B" motors > are > no longer available.) > > -- Although an ECU can be had for as little as $75 for most models at a wrecking yard; air bags are a bigger headache. The legality and acceptability of used air bags is marginal at best, so they are popular black market items. http://www.asashop.org/news/march99/nace.htm Mike |
Re: Break-ins due to window/lock exploit
On 21 May 2005 00:42:48 GMT, "TeGGeR®" <tegger@tegger.c0m> wrote:
>K`Tetch <no.email@here.for.you> wrote in >news:190t819dbe4as41veafm072va8f4gemt9u@4ax.com : > > >> >> Used to leave mine locked all the time in the UK. Even more than a few >> times, i'd locked myself out of the car, wait for it (its funny) with >> the engine running. > > >I did that once too! The car ran for almost two hours before the tow truck >driver arrived and popped the door open (I was in the middle of nowhere). > >I later solved that by disconnecting my "key in" warning beep. Now that >there's nothing to save me, I have not locked myself out again in 13 years. I didn't have such a beep. Its not a problem for me any more though, where i live now, i don't bother to lock the car anyway (Wifes unclue doesn't even lock his front door, and he was a cop here for 15 years). Radio station lists all the arrests and charges here every morning, typically about 8 things listed, mainly speeding, or 'theft by taking' |
Re: Break-ins due to window/lock exploit
On 21 May 2005 00:42:48 GMT, "TeGGeR®" <tegger@tegger.c0m> wrote:
>K`Tetch <no.email@here.for.you> wrote in >news:190t819dbe4as41veafm072va8f4gemt9u@4ax.com : > > >> >> Used to leave mine locked all the time in the UK. Even more than a few >> times, i'd locked myself out of the car, wait for it (its funny) with >> the engine running. > > >I did that once too! The car ran for almost two hours before the tow truck >driver arrived and popped the door open (I was in the middle of nowhere). > >I later solved that by disconnecting my "key in" warning beep. Now that >there's nothing to save me, I have not locked myself out again in 13 years. I didn't have such a beep. Its not a problem for me any more though, where i live now, i don't bother to lock the car anyway (Wifes unclue doesn't even lock his front door, and he was a cop here for 15 years). Radio station lists all the arrests and charges here every morning, typically about 8 things listed, mainly speeding, or 'theft by taking' |
Re: Break-ins due to window/lock exploit
WooHoo2You wrote:
> I have a 96 Honda Civic with manual door locks. I have had my car broken in > to three times is the last ten months.(two times in the last three days.) I > live in a apartment complex nice enough to attract thieves, however not nice > enough to have overnight security. The break-ins were done in large waves. > All the cars broken into on these nights were Hondas that cover the whole of > the complex. In all three instances the police told me that Hondas are > easily broken into due to an "exploit" in the windows/door locks. > > Is there a manufacture recall or a way to fix this problem? Nothing I've ever heard of... certain Hondas are notoriously easy to break into though, and tend to regularly top most insurance companies most-stolen lists. The Insurance Corp. of BC lists The 1987-2000 and 2002 Civics as their #1 stolen vehicle, and 1986-97 Accords as #3 (behind 91-97, 99 and 2000 Dodge Caravans). http://www.icbc.com/Crime-Fraud/PI213M%20(122004).pdf --- avast! Antivirus: Outbound message clean. Virus Database (VPS): 0520-4, 05/20/2005 Tested on: 5/22/2005 2:59:34 PM avast! - copyright (c) 1988-2005 ALWIL Software. http://www.avast.com |
Re: Break-ins due to window/lock exploit
WooHoo2You wrote:
> I have a 96 Honda Civic with manual door locks. I have had my car broken in > to three times is the last ten months.(two times in the last three days.) I > live in a apartment complex nice enough to attract thieves, however not nice > enough to have overnight security. The break-ins were done in large waves. > All the cars broken into on these nights were Hondas that cover the whole of > the complex. In all three instances the police told me that Hondas are > easily broken into due to an "exploit" in the windows/door locks. > > Is there a manufacture recall or a way to fix this problem? Nothing I've ever heard of... certain Hondas are notoriously easy to break into though, and tend to regularly top most insurance companies most-stolen lists. The Insurance Corp. of BC lists The 1987-2000 and 2002 Civics as their #1 stolen vehicle, and 1986-97 Accords as #3 (behind 91-97, 99 and 2000 Dodge Caravans). http://www.icbc.com/Crime-Fraud/PI213M%20(122004).pdf --- avast! Antivirus: Outbound message clean. Virus Database (VPS): 0520-4, 05/20/2005 Tested on: 5/22/2005 2:59:34 PM avast! - copyright (c) 1988-2005 ALWIL Software. http://www.avast.com |
Re: Break-ins due to window/lock exploit
Matt Ion <soundy@moltenimage.com> wrote in
news:wh7ke.1448848$6l.902686@pd7tw2no: > WooHoo2You wrote: > >> I have a 96 Honda Civic with manual door locks. I have had my car >> broken in to three times is the last ten months.(two times in the >> last three days.) I live in a apartment complex nice enough to >> attract thieves, however not nice enough to have overnight security. >> The break-ins were done in large waves. All the cars broken into on >> these nights were Hondas that cover the whole of the complex. In all >> three instances the police told me that Hondas are easily broken into >> due to an "exploit" in the windows/door locks. >> >> Is there a manufacture recall or a way to fix this problem? > > Nothing I've ever heard of... certain Hondas are notoriously easy to > break into though, and tend to regularly top most insurance companies > most-stolen lists. The Insurance Corp. of BC lists The 1987-2000 and > 2002 Civics as their #1 stolen vehicle, and 1986-97 Accords as #3 > (behind 91-97, 99 and 2000 Dodge Caravans). > > http://www.icbc.com/Crime-Fraud/PI213M%20(122004).pdf What gets me is that after the first time or even the second time,this person did not install any sort of burglar alarm that would go off if a door was opened or window broken to gain access. Granted,they ARE a PITA and an unwanted extra expense,but still of some use in preventing this sort of auto burglary. -- Jim Yanik jyanik at kua.net |
Re: Break-ins due to window/lock exploit
Matt Ion <soundy@moltenimage.com> wrote in
news:wh7ke.1448848$6l.902686@pd7tw2no: > WooHoo2You wrote: > >> I have a 96 Honda Civic with manual door locks. I have had my car >> broken in to three times is the last ten months.(two times in the >> last three days.) I live in a apartment complex nice enough to >> attract thieves, however not nice enough to have overnight security. >> The break-ins were done in large waves. All the cars broken into on >> these nights were Hondas that cover the whole of the complex. In all >> three instances the police told me that Hondas are easily broken into >> due to an "exploit" in the windows/door locks. >> >> Is there a manufacture recall or a way to fix this problem? > > Nothing I've ever heard of... certain Hondas are notoriously easy to > break into though, and tend to regularly top most insurance companies > most-stolen lists. The Insurance Corp. of BC lists The 1987-2000 and > 2002 Civics as their #1 stolen vehicle, and 1986-97 Accords as #3 > (behind 91-97, 99 and 2000 Dodge Caravans). > > http://www.icbc.com/Crime-Fraud/PI213M%20(122004).pdf What gets me is that after the first time or even the second time,this person did not install any sort of burglar alarm that would go off if a door was opened or window broken to gain access. Granted,they ARE a PITA and an unwanted extra expense,but still of some use in preventing this sort of auto burglary. -- Jim Yanik jyanik at kua.net |
Re: Break-ins due to window/lock exploit
In article <Xns965EBD36AE2C4jyanikkuanet@129.250.170.85>, Jim Yanik
<jyanik@abuse.gov.> wrote: > Matt Ion <soundy@moltenimage.com> wrote in > news:wh7ke.1448848$6l.902686@pd7tw2no: > > > WooHoo2You wrote: > > > >> I have a 96 Honda Civic with manual door locks. I have had my car > >> broken in to three times is the last ten months.(two times in the > >> last three days.) I live in a apartment complex nice enough to > >> attract thieves, however not nice enough to have overnight security. > >> The break-ins were done in large waves. All the cars broken into on > >> these nights were Hondas that cover the whole of the complex. In all > >> three instances the police told me that Hondas are easily broken into > >> due to an "exploit" in the windows/door locks. > >> > >> Is there a manufacture recall or a way to fix this problem? > > > > Nothing I've ever heard of... certain Hondas are notoriously easy to > > break into though, and tend to regularly top most insurance companies > > most-stolen lists. The Insurance Corp. of BC lists The 1987-2000 and > > 2002 Civics as their #1 stolen vehicle, and 1986-97 Accords as #3 > > (behind 91-97, 99 and 2000 Dodge Caravans). > > > > http://www.icbc.com/Crime-Fraud/PI213M%20(122004).pdf > > > > What gets me is that after the first time or even the second time,this > person did not install any sort of burglar alarm that would go off if a > door was opened or window broken to gain access. > > Granted,they ARE a PITA and an unwanted extra expense,but still of some use > in preventing this sort of auto burglary. Hello, Honda has made an effort to fix these problems in their newer vehicles. I have a 1999 Accord EX. It has a special radio that won't work if it's removed from the vehicle. It has a security alarm system. It also came with a special key that has a computer chip under the plastic. The car won't start unless the special key is used. I don't know whether it's possible to "hot wire" the car. It's far superior to older Honda Accords that did not have hardly any security special equipment. Jason -- NEWSGROUP SUBSCRIBERS MOTTO We respect those subscribers that ask for advice or provide advice. We do NOT respect the subscribers that enjoy criticizing people. |
Re: Break-ins due to window/lock exploit
In article <Xns965EBD36AE2C4jyanikkuanet@129.250.170.85>, Jim Yanik
<jyanik@abuse.gov.> wrote: > Matt Ion <soundy@moltenimage.com> wrote in > news:wh7ke.1448848$6l.902686@pd7tw2no: > > > WooHoo2You wrote: > > > >> I have a 96 Honda Civic with manual door locks. I have had my car > >> broken in to three times is the last ten months.(two times in the > >> last three days.) I live in a apartment complex nice enough to > >> attract thieves, however not nice enough to have overnight security. > >> The break-ins were done in large waves. All the cars broken into on > >> these nights were Hondas that cover the whole of the complex. In all > >> three instances the police told me that Hondas are easily broken into > >> due to an "exploit" in the windows/door locks. > >> > >> Is there a manufacture recall or a way to fix this problem? > > > > Nothing I've ever heard of... certain Hondas are notoriously easy to > > break into though, and tend to regularly top most insurance companies > > most-stolen lists. The Insurance Corp. of BC lists The 1987-2000 and > > 2002 Civics as their #1 stolen vehicle, and 1986-97 Accords as #3 > > (behind 91-97, 99 and 2000 Dodge Caravans). > > > > http://www.icbc.com/Crime-Fraud/PI213M%20(122004).pdf > > > > What gets me is that after the first time or even the second time,this > person did not install any sort of burglar alarm that would go off if a > door was opened or window broken to gain access. > > Granted,they ARE a PITA and an unwanted extra expense,but still of some use > in preventing this sort of auto burglary. Hello, Honda has made an effort to fix these problems in their newer vehicles. I have a 1999 Accord EX. It has a special radio that won't work if it's removed from the vehicle. It has a security alarm system. It also came with a special key that has a computer chip under the plastic. The car won't start unless the special key is used. I don't know whether it's possible to "hot wire" the car. It's far superior to older Honda Accords that did not have hardly any security special equipment. Jason -- NEWSGROUP SUBSCRIBERS MOTTO We respect those subscribers that ask for advice or provide advice. We do NOT respect the subscribers that enjoy criticizing people. |
Re: Break-ins due to window/lock exploit
I live in a large apartment complex, and my unit is on the back side of the
building from where all of the parking is. Therefore I have no hope of hearing my alarm, also none of the other tenants would even turn an ear to a car alarm. My Civic is a 96 with some body damage, spending 200 dollars (plus install) on a good alarm system seems like a questionable investment on a car I may own for less then a year. WooHoo2You "Jim Yanik" <jyanik@abuse.gov.> wrote in message news:Xns965EBD36AE2C4jyanikkuanet@129.250.170.85.. . > Matt Ion <soundy@moltenimage.com> wrote in > news:wh7ke.1448848$6l.902686@pd7tw2no: > >> WooHoo2You wrote: >> >>> I have a 96 Honda Civic with manual door locks. I have had my car >>> broken in to three times is the last ten months.(two times in the >>> last three days.) I live in a apartment complex nice enough to >>> attract thieves, however not nice enough to have overnight security. >>> The break-ins were done in large waves. All the cars broken into on >>> these nights were Hondas that cover the whole of the complex. In all >>> three instances the police told me that Hondas are easily broken into >>> due to an "exploit" in the windows/door locks. >>> >>> Is there a manufacture recall or a way to fix this problem? >> >> Nothing I've ever heard of... certain Hondas are notoriously easy to >> break into though, and tend to regularly top most insurance companies >> most-stolen lists. The Insurance Corp. of BC lists The 1987-2000 and >> 2002 Civics as their #1 stolen vehicle, and 1986-97 Accords as #3 >> (behind 91-97, 99 and 2000 Dodge Caravans). >> >> http://www.icbc.com/Crime-Fraud/PI213M%20(122004).pdf > > > > What gets me is that after the first time or even the second time,this > person did not install any sort of burglar alarm that would go off if a > door was opened or window broken to gain access. > > Granted,they ARE a PITA and an unwanted extra expense,but still of some > use > in preventing this sort of auto burglary. > > -- > Jim Yanik > jyanik > at > kua.net |
Re: Break-ins due to window/lock exploit
I live in a large apartment complex, and my unit is on the back side of the
building from where all of the parking is. Therefore I have no hope of hearing my alarm, also none of the other tenants would even turn an ear to a car alarm. My Civic is a 96 with some body damage, spending 200 dollars (plus install) on a good alarm system seems like a questionable investment on a car I may own for less then a year. WooHoo2You "Jim Yanik" <jyanik@abuse.gov.> wrote in message news:Xns965EBD36AE2C4jyanikkuanet@129.250.170.85.. . > Matt Ion <soundy@moltenimage.com> wrote in > news:wh7ke.1448848$6l.902686@pd7tw2no: > >> WooHoo2You wrote: >> >>> I have a 96 Honda Civic with manual door locks. I have had my car >>> broken in to three times is the last ten months.(two times in the >>> last three days.) I live in a apartment complex nice enough to >>> attract thieves, however not nice enough to have overnight security. >>> The break-ins were done in large waves. All the cars broken into on >>> these nights were Hondas that cover the whole of the complex. In all >>> three instances the police told me that Hondas are easily broken into >>> due to an "exploit" in the windows/door locks. >>> >>> Is there a manufacture recall or a way to fix this problem? >> >> Nothing I've ever heard of... certain Hondas are notoriously easy to >> break into though, and tend to regularly top most insurance companies >> most-stolen lists. The Insurance Corp. of BC lists The 1987-2000 and >> 2002 Civics as their #1 stolen vehicle, and 1986-97 Accords as #3 >> (behind 91-97, 99 and 2000 Dodge Caravans). >> >> http://www.icbc.com/Crime-Fraud/PI213M%20(122004).pdf > > > > What gets me is that after the first time or even the second time,this > person did not install any sort of burglar alarm that would go off if a > door was opened or window broken to gain access. > > Granted,they ARE a PITA and an unwanted extra expense,but still of some > use > in preventing this sort of auto burglary. > > -- > Jim Yanik > jyanik > at > kua.net |
Re: Break-ins due to window/lock exploit
jason@nospam.com (Jason) wrote in
news:jason-2205051619370001@pm4-broad-44.snlo.dialup.fix.net: > In article <Xns965EBD36AE2C4jyanikkuanet@129.250.170.85>, Jim Yanik ><jyanik@abuse.gov.> wrote: > >> Matt Ion <soundy@moltenimage.com> wrote in >> news:wh7ke.1448848$6l.902686@pd7tw2no: >> >> > WooHoo2You wrote: >> > >> >> I have a 96 Honda Civic with manual door locks. I have had my car >> >> broken in to three times is the last ten months.(two times in the >> >> last three days.) I live in a apartment complex nice enough to >> >> attract thieves, however not nice enough to have overnight >> >> security. The break-ins were done in large waves. All the cars >> >> broken into on these nights were Hondas that cover the whole of >> >> the complex. In all three instances the police told me that >> >> Hondas are easily broken into due to an "exploit" in the >> >> windows/door locks. >> >> >> >> Is there a manufacture recall or a way to fix this problem? >> > >> > Nothing I've ever heard of... certain Hondas are notoriously easy >> > to break into though, and tend to regularly top most insurance >> > companies most-stolen lists. The Insurance Corp. of BC lists The >> > 1987-2000 and 2002 Civics as their #1 stolen vehicle, and 1986-97 >> > Accords as #3 (behind 91-97, 99 and 2000 Dodge Caravans). >> > >> > http://www.icbc.com/Crime-Fraud/PI213M%20(122004).pdf >> >> >> >> What gets me is that after the first time or even the second >> time,this person did not install any sort of burglar alarm that would >> go off if a door was opened or window broken to gain access. >> >> Granted,they ARE a PITA and an unwanted extra expense,but still of >> some use in preventing this sort of auto burglary. > > Hello, > Honda has made an effort to fix these problems in their newer > vehicles. I have a 1999 Accord EX. It has a special radio that won't > work if it's removed from the vehicle. It has a security alarm system. > It also came with a special key that has a computer chip under the > plastic. The car won't start unless the special key is used. I don't > know whether it's possible to "hot wire" the car. It's far superior to > older Honda Accords that did not have hardly any security special > equipment. Jason > That does not stop them from removing other parts like the ECU or airbags,seats,or body trim pieces. The ECU was stolen from my Integra GSR-before I bought an alarm. -- Jim Yanik jyanik at kua.net |
Re: Break-ins due to window/lock exploit
jason@nospam.com (Jason) wrote in
news:jason-2205051619370001@pm4-broad-44.snlo.dialup.fix.net: > In article <Xns965EBD36AE2C4jyanikkuanet@129.250.170.85>, Jim Yanik ><jyanik@abuse.gov.> wrote: > >> Matt Ion <soundy@moltenimage.com> wrote in >> news:wh7ke.1448848$6l.902686@pd7tw2no: >> >> > WooHoo2You wrote: >> > >> >> I have a 96 Honda Civic with manual door locks. I have had my car >> >> broken in to three times is the last ten months.(two times in the >> >> last three days.) I live in a apartment complex nice enough to >> >> attract thieves, however not nice enough to have overnight >> >> security. The break-ins were done in large waves. All the cars >> >> broken into on these nights were Hondas that cover the whole of >> >> the complex. In all three instances the police told me that >> >> Hondas are easily broken into due to an "exploit" in the >> >> windows/door locks. >> >> >> >> Is there a manufacture recall or a way to fix this problem? >> > >> > Nothing I've ever heard of... certain Hondas are notoriously easy >> > to break into though, and tend to regularly top most insurance >> > companies most-stolen lists. The Insurance Corp. of BC lists The >> > 1987-2000 and 2002 Civics as their #1 stolen vehicle, and 1986-97 >> > Accords as #3 (behind 91-97, 99 and 2000 Dodge Caravans). >> > >> > http://www.icbc.com/Crime-Fraud/PI213M%20(122004).pdf >> >> >> >> What gets me is that after the first time or even the second >> time,this person did not install any sort of burglar alarm that would >> go off if a door was opened or window broken to gain access. >> >> Granted,they ARE a PITA and an unwanted extra expense,but still of >> some use in preventing this sort of auto burglary. > > Hello, > Honda has made an effort to fix these problems in their newer > vehicles. I have a 1999 Accord EX. It has a special radio that won't > work if it's removed from the vehicle. It has a security alarm system. > It also came with a special key that has a computer chip under the > plastic. The car won't start unless the special key is used. I don't > know whether it's possible to "hot wire" the car. It's far superior to > older Honda Accords that did not have hardly any security special > equipment. Jason > That does not stop them from removing other parts like the ECU or airbags,seats,or body trim pieces. The ECU was stolen from my Integra GSR-before I bought an alarm. -- Jim Yanik jyanik at kua.net |
Re: Break-ins due to window/lock exploit
"WooHoo2You" <no@email.com> wrote in
news:tjfke.9056$w21.7701@newsread3.news.atl.earthl ink.net: > I live in a large apartment complex, and my unit is on the back side > of the building from where all of the parking is. Therefore I have no > hope of hearing my alarm, The thieves do not know that. Granted an alarm will not stop professional thieves or really determined amateurs,but they still are a deterrent,something that makes them move on to other,undefended targets. > also none of the other tenants would even > turn an ear to a car alarm. My Civic is a 96 with some body damage, > spending 200 dollars (plus install) on a good alarm system seems like > a questionable investment on a car I may own for less then a year. One has to balance the cost of defense against the value of the item and it's contents. If you discover your ECU or other major component stolen(that may not be available anymore),then you may be getting another car sooner than you think. -- Jim Yanik jyanik at kua.net |
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