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Buying a replacement engine
i'm considering replacing the engine in my 1991 civic DX - i think it
is a D15B2. i think i want just a straight replacement. i'm more interested in fuel economy than performance. does anyone have any experience or advice regarding purchasing engines? i need practical information regarding JDM engines, buying online and warranties. thanks! |
Re: Buying a replacement engine
Hi Josh, I am a 91 Civic LX owner. Mine's a D15B2 engine. I
was curious on behalf of a friend and went looking for an engine online a few months ago. Seems like one with less than 75k miles on it for our Civics may be had for under $800. Shipping runs a measly $100. Warranties seem to run 3 months to a year. You can google using words like {swap engine honda civic} and start studying the results for some more ideas. <larson.joshua@gmail.com> wrote > i'm considering replacing the engine in my 1991 civic DX - > i think it > is a D15B2. > > i think i want just a straight replacement. i'm more > interested in > fuel economy than performance. > > does anyone have any experience or advice regarding > purchasing engines? > i need practical information regarding JDM engines, buying > online and > warranties. |
Re: Buying a replacement engine
Hi Josh, I am a 91 Civic LX owner. Mine's a D15B2 engine. I
was curious on behalf of a friend and went looking for an engine online a few months ago. Seems like one with less than 75k miles on it for our Civics may be had for under $800. Shipping runs a measly $100. Warranties seem to run 3 months to a year. You can google using words like {swap engine honda civic} and start studying the results for some more ideas. <larson.joshua@gmail.com> wrote > i'm considering replacing the engine in my 1991 civic DX - > i think it > is a D15B2. > > i think i want just a straight replacement. i'm more > interested in > fuel economy than performance. > > does anyone have any experience or advice regarding > purchasing engines? > i need practical information regarding JDM engines, buying > online and > warranties. |
Re: Buying a replacement engine
Hi Josh, I am a 91 Civic LX owner. Mine's a D15B2 engine. I
was curious on behalf of a friend and went looking for an engine online a few months ago. Seems like one with less than 75k miles on it for our Civics may be had for under $800. Shipping runs a measly $100. Warranties seem to run 3 months to a year. You can google using words like {swap engine honda civic} and start studying the results for some more ideas. <larson.joshua@gmail.com> wrote > i'm considering replacing the engine in my 1991 civic DX - > i think it > is a D15B2. > > i think i want just a straight replacement. i'm more > interested in > fuel economy than performance. > > does anyone have any experience or advice regarding > purchasing engines? > i need practical information regarding JDM engines, buying > online and > warranties. |
Re: Buying a replacement engine
Hi Josh, I am a 91 Civic LX owner. Mine's a D15B2 engine. I
was curious on behalf of a friend and went looking for an engine online a few months ago. Seems like one with less than 75k miles on it for our Civics may be had for under $800. Shipping runs a measly $100. Warranties seem to run 3 months to a year. You can google using words like {swap engine honda civic} and start studying the results for some more ideas. <larson.joshua@gmail.com> wrote > i'm considering replacing the engine in my 1991 civic DX - > i think it > is a D15B2. > > i think i want just a straight replacement. i'm more > interested in > fuel economy than performance. > > does anyone have any experience or advice regarding > purchasing engines? > i need practical information regarding JDM engines, buying > online and > warranties. |
Re: Buying a replacement engine
larson.joshua@gmail.com wrote:
> i'm considering replacing the engine in my 1991 civic DX - i think it > is a D15B2. > > i think i want just a straight replacement. i'm more interested in > fuel economy than performance. > > does anyone have any experience or advice regarding purchasing engines? > i need practical information regarding JDM engines, buying online and > warranties. > > thanks! > what's wrong with yours and why do you want to replace it? how many miles? i ask because if you think it's not performing right, there are a number of possible causes, all of which are cheaper and less troublesome than replacing the whole unit. |
Re: Buying a replacement engine
larson.joshua@gmail.com wrote:
> i'm considering replacing the engine in my 1991 civic DX - i think it > is a D15B2. > > i think i want just a straight replacement. i'm more interested in > fuel economy than performance. > > does anyone have any experience or advice regarding purchasing engines? > i need practical information regarding JDM engines, buying online and > warranties. > > thanks! > what's wrong with yours and why do you want to replace it? how many miles? i ask because if you think it's not performing right, there are a number of possible causes, all of which are cheaper and less troublesome than replacing the whole unit. |
Re: Buying a replacement engine
larson.joshua@gmail.com wrote:
> i'm considering replacing the engine in my 1991 civic DX - i think it > is a D15B2. > > i think i want just a straight replacement. i'm more interested in > fuel economy than performance. > > does anyone have any experience or advice regarding purchasing engines? > i need practical information regarding JDM engines, buying online and > warranties. > > thanks! > what's wrong with yours and why do you want to replace it? how many miles? i ask because if you think it's not performing right, there are a number of possible causes, all of which are cheaper and less troublesome than replacing the whole unit. |
Re: Buying a replacement engine
larson.joshua@gmail.com wrote:
> i'm considering replacing the engine in my 1991 civic DX - i think it > is a D15B2. > > i think i want just a straight replacement. i'm more interested in > fuel economy than performance. > > does anyone have any experience or advice regarding purchasing engines? > i need practical information regarding JDM engines, buying online and > warranties. > > thanks! > what's wrong with yours and why do you want to replace it? how many miles? i ask because if you think it's not performing right, there are a number of possible causes, all of which are cheaper and less troublesome than replacing the whole unit. |
Re: Buying a replacement engine
i've done some looking online and it's difficult to discern what's what
and if a given website is legitimate. that's the biggest difficulty. jim - you've helped me in the past and i appreciate that. here's the long story short: bought the car from a friend. when i bought it, it probably had a blown head gasket. after a while, the engine blew, overheated severely and i had head reworked. i did the work and installed new timing belt, new water pump, and of course new head gasket. the engine seemed to run just okay. it felt tired. then the temp started fluctuating. replaced thermostat a few times, rad cap a few times... was losing coolant. figured i messed up first gasket job. started #2. replaced timing belt, head gasket had head reworked. replaced distributor after the last one had bad crank sensor (caught warranty by a week!). car runs okay, but here's the thing it did after 1st and 2nd head gasket job: after i drive for a while, some kind of gas gets into the cooling system. it bubbles, not boils, pretty vigorously after i come home (up a mountainside). i could live with this, but i have to check the fluid levels every couple days now. the gas pushes coolant out, overflows the resevoir, makes a mess and then i have to fill it back up. i am now feeling like the block is cracked or something else is majorly messed up. plus, i'm a little sick of working on this engine... jim beam wrote: > larson.joshua@gmail.com wrote: > > i'm considering replacing the engine in my 1991 civic DX - i think it > > is a D15B2. > > > > i think i want just a straight replacement. i'm more interested in > > fuel economy than performance. > > > > does anyone have any experience or advice regarding purchasing engines? > > i need practical information regarding JDM engines, buying online and > > warranties. > > > > thanks! > > > what's wrong with yours and why do you want to replace it? how many > miles? i ask because if you think it's not performing right, there are > a number of possible causes, all of which are cheaper and less > troublesome than replacing the whole unit. |
Re: Buying a replacement engine
i've done some looking online and it's difficult to discern what's what
and if a given website is legitimate. that's the biggest difficulty. jim - you've helped me in the past and i appreciate that. here's the long story short: bought the car from a friend. when i bought it, it probably had a blown head gasket. after a while, the engine blew, overheated severely and i had head reworked. i did the work and installed new timing belt, new water pump, and of course new head gasket. the engine seemed to run just okay. it felt tired. then the temp started fluctuating. replaced thermostat a few times, rad cap a few times... was losing coolant. figured i messed up first gasket job. started #2. replaced timing belt, head gasket had head reworked. replaced distributor after the last one had bad crank sensor (caught warranty by a week!). car runs okay, but here's the thing it did after 1st and 2nd head gasket job: after i drive for a while, some kind of gas gets into the cooling system. it bubbles, not boils, pretty vigorously after i come home (up a mountainside). i could live with this, but i have to check the fluid levels every couple days now. the gas pushes coolant out, overflows the resevoir, makes a mess and then i have to fill it back up. i am now feeling like the block is cracked or something else is majorly messed up. plus, i'm a little sick of working on this engine... jim beam wrote: > larson.joshua@gmail.com wrote: > > i'm considering replacing the engine in my 1991 civic DX - i think it > > is a D15B2. > > > > i think i want just a straight replacement. i'm more interested in > > fuel economy than performance. > > > > does anyone have any experience or advice regarding purchasing engines? > > i need practical information regarding JDM engines, buying online and > > warranties. > > > > thanks! > > > what's wrong with yours and why do you want to replace it? how many > miles? i ask because if you think it's not performing right, there are > a number of possible causes, all of which are cheaper and less > troublesome than replacing the whole unit. |
Re: Buying a replacement engine
i've done some looking online and it's difficult to discern what's what
and if a given website is legitimate. that's the biggest difficulty. jim - you've helped me in the past and i appreciate that. here's the long story short: bought the car from a friend. when i bought it, it probably had a blown head gasket. after a while, the engine blew, overheated severely and i had head reworked. i did the work and installed new timing belt, new water pump, and of course new head gasket. the engine seemed to run just okay. it felt tired. then the temp started fluctuating. replaced thermostat a few times, rad cap a few times... was losing coolant. figured i messed up first gasket job. started #2. replaced timing belt, head gasket had head reworked. replaced distributor after the last one had bad crank sensor (caught warranty by a week!). car runs okay, but here's the thing it did after 1st and 2nd head gasket job: after i drive for a while, some kind of gas gets into the cooling system. it bubbles, not boils, pretty vigorously after i come home (up a mountainside). i could live with this, but i have to check the fluid levels every couple days now. the gas pushes coolant out, overflows the resevoir, makes a mess and then i have to fill it back up. i am now feeling like the block is cracked or something else is majorly messed up. plus, i'm a little sick of working on this engine... jim beam wrote: > larson.joshua@gmail.com wrote: > > i'm considering replacing the engine in my 1991 civic DX - i think it > > is a D15B2. > > > > i think i want just a straight replacement. i'm more interested in > > fuel economy than performance. > > > > does anyone have any experience or advice regarding purchasing engines? > > i need practical information regarding JDM engines, buying online and > > warranties. > > > > thanks! > > > what's wrong with yours and why do you want to replace it? how many > miles? i ask because if you think it's not performing right, there are > a number of possible causes, all of which are cheaper and less > troublesome than replacing the whole unit. |
Re: Buying a replacement engine
i've done some looking online and it's difficult to discern what's what
and if a given website is legitimate. that's the biggest difficulty. jim - you've helped me in the past and i appreciate that. here's the long story short: bought the car from a friend. when i bought it, it probably had a blown head gasket. after a while, the engine blew, overheated severely and i had head reworked. i did the work and installed new timing belt, new water pump, and of course new head gasket. the engine seemed to run just okay. it felt tired. then the temp started fluctuating. replaced thermostat a few times, rad cap a few times... was losing coolant. figured i messed up first gasket job. started #2. replaced timing belt, head gasket had head reworked. replaced distributor after the last one had bad crank sensor (caught warranty by a week!). car runs okay, but here's the thing it did after 1st and 2nd head gasket job: after i drive for a while, some kind of gas gets into the cooling system. it bubbles, not boils, pretty vigorously after i come home (up a mountainside). i could live with this, but i have to check the fluid levels every couple days now. the gas pushes coolant out, overflows the resevoir, makes a mess and then i have to fill it back up. i am now feeling like the block is cracked or something else is majorly messed up. plus, i'm a little sick of working on this engine... jim beam wrote: > larson.joshua@gmail.com wrote: > > i'm considering replacing the engine in my 1991 civic DX - i think it > > is a D15B2. > > > > i think i want just a straight replacement. i'm more interested in > > fuel economy than performance. > > > > does anyone have any experience or advice regarding purchasing engines? > > i need practical information regarding JDM engines, buying online and > > warranties. > > > > thanks! > > > what's wrong with yours and why do you want to replace it? how many > miles? i ask because if you think it's not performing right, there are > a number of possible causes, all of which are cheaper and less > troublesome than replacing the whole unit. |
Re: Buying a replacement engine
larson.joshua@gmail.com wrote:
> i've done some looking online and it's difficult to discern what's what > and if a given website is legitimate. that's the biggest difficulty. the biggest thing is to buy with a credit card [not debit card]. that way, ultimately, if there's a problem, the vendor has to work with you and the credit card company to resolve any problems. i'd just go for one of the direct jdm importers with as low a mileage as possible. you don't need much of a warranty - say a month. if it works, has no head problems and doesn't burn oil, you're set - all those will be detectable in the first week or so. > > jim - you've helped me in the past and i appreciate that. here's the > long story short: bought the car from a friend. when i bought it, it > probably had a blown head gasket. after a while, the engine blew, > overheated severely and i had head reworked. i did the work and > installed new timing belt, new water pump, and of course new head > gasket. > > the engine seemed to run just okay. it felt tired. then the temp > started fluctuating. replaced thermostat a few times, rad cap a few > times... was losing coolant. figured i messed up first gasket job. > started #2. replaced timing belt, head gasket had head reworked. > replaced distributor after the last one had bad crank sensor (caught > warranty by a week!). > > car runs okay, but here's the thing it did after 1st and 2nd head > gasket job: after i drive for a while, some kind of gas gets into the > cooling system. it bubbles, not boils, pretty vigorously after i come > home (up a mountainside). i could live with this, but i have to check > the fluid levels every couple days now. the gas pushes coolant out, > overflows the resevoir, makes a mess and then i have to fill it back > up. something's cracked. > > i am now feeling like the block is cracked or something else is majorly > messed up. plus, i'm a little sick of working on this engine... replacement is 100% the way to go - not worth wasting another single moment on that motor. onwards! > > > jim beam wrote: >> larson.joshua@gmail.com wrote: >>> i'm considering replacing the engine in my 1991 civic DX - i think it >>> is a D15B2. >>> >>> i think i want just a straight replacement. i'm more interested in >>> fuel economy than performance. >>> >>> does anyone have any experience or advice regarding purchasing engines? >>> i need practical information regarding JDM engines, buying online and >>> warranties. >>> >>> thanks! >>> >> what's wrong with yours and why do you want to replace it? how many >> miles? i ask because if you think it's not performing right, there are >> a number of possible causes, all of which are cheaper and less >> troublesome than replacing the whole unit. > |
Re: Buying a replacement engine
larson.joshua@gmail.com wrote:
> i've done some looking online and it's difficult to discern what's what > and if a given website is legitimate. that's the biggest difficulty. the biggest thing is to buy with a credit card [not debit card]. that way, ultimately, if there's a problem, the vendor has to work with you and the credit card company to resolve any problems. i'd just go for one of the direct jdm importers with as low a mileage as possible. you don't need much of a warranty - say a month. if it works, has no head problems and doesn't burn oil, you're set - all those will be detectable in the first week or so. > > jim - you've helped me in the past and i appreciate that. here's the > long story short: bought the car from a friend. when i bought it, it > probably had a blown head gasket. after a while, the engine blew, > overheated severely and i had head reworked. i did the work and > installed new timing belt, new water pump, and of course new head > gasket. > > the engine seemed to run just okay. it felt tired. then the temp > started fluctuating. replaced thermostat a few times, rad cap a few > times... was losing coolant. figured i messed up first gasket job. > started #2. replaced timing belt, head gasket had head reworked. > replaced distributor after the last one had bad crank sensor (caught > warranty by a week!). > > car runs okay, but here's the thing it did after 1st and 2nd head > gasket job: after i drive for a while, some kind of gas gets into the > cooling system. it bubbles, not boils, pretty vigorously after i come > home (up a mountainside). i could live with this, but i have to check > the fluid levels every couple days now. the gas pushes coolant out, > overflows the resevoir, makes a mess and then i have to fill it back > up. something's cracked. > > i am now feeling like the block is cracked or something else is majorly > messed up. plus, i'm a little sick of working on this engine... replacement is 100% the way to go - not worth wasting another single moment on that motor. onwards! > > > jim beam wrote: >> larson.joshua@gmail.com wrote: >>> i'm considering replacing the engine in my 1991 civic DX - i think it >>> is a D15B2. >>> >>> i think i want just a straight replacement. i'm more interested in >>> fuel economy than performance. >>> >>> does anyone have any experience or advice regarding purchasing engines? >>> i need practical information regarding JDM engines, buying online and >>> warranties. >>> >>> thanks! >>> >> what's wrong with yours and why do you want to replace it? how many >> miles? i ask because if you think it's not performing right, there are >> a number of possible causes, all of which are cheaper and less >> troublesome than replacing the whole unit. > |
Re: Buying a replacement engine
larson.joshua@gmail.com wrote:
> i've done some looking online and it's difficult to discern what's what > and if a given website is legitimate. that's the biggest difficulty. the biggest thing is to buy with a credit card [not debit card]. that way, ultimately, if there's a problem, the vendor has to work with you and the credit card company to resolve any problems. i'd just go for one of the direct jdm importers with as low a mileage as possible. you don't need much of a warranty - say a month. if it works, has no head problems and doesn't burn oil, you're set - all those will be detectable in the first week or so. > > jim - you've helped me in the past and i appreciate that. here's the > long story short: bought the car from a friend. when i bought it, it > probably had a blown head gasket. after a while, the engine blew, > overheated severely and i had head reworked. i did the work and > installed new timing belt, new water pump, and of course new head > gasket. > > the engine seemed to run just okay. it felt tired. then the temp > started fluctuating. replaced thermostat a few times, rad cap a few > times... was losing coolant. figured i messed up first gasket job. > started #2. replaced timing belt, head gasket had head reworked. > replaced distributor after the last one had bad crank sensor (caught > warranty by a week!). > > car runs okay, but here's the thing it did after 1st and 2nd head > gasket job: after i drive for a while, some kind of gas gets into the > cooling system. it bubbles, not boils, pretty vigorously after i come > home (up a mountainside). i could live with this, but i have to check > the fluid levels every couple days now. the gas pushes coolant out, > overflows the resevoir, makes a mess and then i have to fill it back > up. something's cracked. > > i am now feeling like the block is cracked or something else is majorly > messed up. plus, i'm a little sick of working on this engine... replacement is 100% the way to go - not worth wasting another single moment on that motor. onwards! > > > jim beam wrote: >> larson.joshua@gmail.com wrote: >>> i'm considering replacing the engine in my 1991 civic DX - i think it >>> is a D15B2. >>> >>> i think i want just a straight replacement. i'm more interested in >>> fuel economy than performance. >>> >>> does anyone have any experience or advice regarding purchasing engines? >>> i need practical information regarding JDM engines, buying online and >>> warranties. >>> >>> thanks! >>> >> what's wrong with yours and why do you want to replace it? how many >> miles? i ask because if you think it's not performing right, there are >> a number of possible causes, all of which are cheaper and less >> troublesome than replacing the whole unit. > |
Re: Buying a replacement engine
larson.joshua@gmail.com wrote:
> i've done some looking online and it's difficult to discern what's what > and if a given website is legitimate. that's the biggest difficulty. the biggest thing is to buy with a credit card [not debit card]. that way, ultimately, if there's a problem, the vendor has to work with you and the credit card company to resolve any problems. i'd just go for one of the direct jdm importers with as low a mileage as possible. you don't need much of a warranty - say a month. if it works, has no head problems and doesn't burn oil, you're set - all those will be detectable in the first week or so. > > jim - you've helped me in the past and i appreciate that. here's the > long story short: bought the car from a friend. when i bought it, it > probably had a blown head gasket. after a while, the engine blew, > overheated severely and i had head reworked. i did the work and > installed new timing belt, new water pump, and of course new head > gasket. > > the engine seemed to run just okay. it felt tired. then the temp > started fluctuating. replaced thermostat a few times, rad cap a few > times... was losing coolant. figured i messed up first gasket job. > started #2. replaced timing belt, head gasket had head reworked. > replaced distributor after the last one had bad crank sensor (caught > warranty by a week!). > > car runs okay, but here's the thing it did after 1st and 2nd head > gasket job: after i drive for a while, some kind of gas gets into the > cooling system. it bubbles, not boils, pretty vigorously after i come > home (up a mountainside). i could live with this, but i have to check > the fluid levels every couple days now. the gas pushes coolant out, > overflows the resevoir, makes a mess and then i have to fill it back > up. something's cracked. > > i am now feeling like the block is cracked or something else is majorly > messed up. plus, i'm a little sick of working on this engine... replacement is 100% the way to go - not worth wasting another single moment on that motor. onwards! > > > jim beam wrote: >> larson.joshua@gmail.com wrote: >>> i'm considering replacing the engine in my 1991 civic DX - i think it >>> is a D15B2. >>> >>> i think i want just a straight replacement. i'm more interested in >>> fuel economy than performance. >>> >>> does anyone have any experience or advice regarding purchasing engines? >>> i need practical information regarding JDM engines, buying online and >>> warranties. >>> >>> thanks! >>> >> what's wrong with yours and why do you want to replace it? how many >> miles? i ask because if you think it's not performing right, there are >> a number of possible causes, all of which are cheaper and less >> troublesome than replacing the whole unit. > |
Re: Buying a replacement engine
thanks jim,
i appreciate your help! do you know of any reputable vendors of these jdm motors? you mentioned "one of the direct jdm importers." also, is this industry legit? as in, are the mileages they quote for real or is it just B.S.? would i be better off going to the junk yard? thanks again (exciting saturday, right?). jim beam wrote: > larson.joshua@gmail.com wrote: > > i've done some looking online and it's difficult to discern what's what > > and if a given website is legitimate. that's the biggest difficulty. > > the biggest thing is to buy with a credit card [not debit card]. that > way, ultimately, if there's a problem, the vendor has to work with you > and the credit card company to resolve any problems. i'd just go for > one of the direct jdm importers with as low a mileage as possible. you > don't need much of a warranty - say a month. if it works, has no head > problems and doesn't burn oil, you're set - all those will be detectable > in the first week or so. > > > > > jim - you've helped me in the past and i appreciate that. here's the > > long story short: bought the car from a friend. when i bought it, it > > probably had a blown head gasket. after a while, the engine blew, > > overheated severely and i had head reworked. i did the work and > > installed new timing belt, new water pump, and of course new head > > gasket. > > > > the engine seemed to run just okay. it felt tired. then the temp > > started fluctuating. replaced thermostat a few times, rad cap a few > > times... was losing coolant. figured i messed up first gasket job. > > started #2. replaced timing belt, head gasket had head reworked. > > replaced distributor after the last one had bad crank sensor (caught > > warranty by a week!). > > > > car runs okay, but here's the thing it did after 1st and 2nd head > > gasket job: after i drive for a while, some kind of gas gets into the > > cooling system. it bubbles, not boils, pretty vigorously after i come > > home (up a mountainside). i could live with this, but i have to check > > the fluid levels every couple days now. the gas pushes coolant out, > > overflows the resevoir, makes a mess and then i have to fill it back > > up. > > something's cracked. > > > > > i am now feeling like the block is cracked or something else is majorly > > messed up. plus, i'm a little sick of working on this engine... > > replacement is 100% the way to go - not worth wasting another single > moment on that motor. onwards! > > > > > > > jim beam wrote: > >> larson.joshua@gmail.com wrote: > >>> i'm considering replacing the engine in my 1991 civic DX - i think it > >>> is a D15B2. > >>> > >>> i think i want just a straight replacement. i'm more interested in > >>> fuel economy than performance. > >>> > >>> does anyone have any experience or advice regarding purchasing engines? > >>> i need practical information regarding JDM engines, buying online and > >>> warranties. > >>> > >>> thanks! > >>> > >> what's wrong with yours and why do you want to replace it? how many > >> miles? i ask because if you think it's not performing right, there are > >> a number of possible causes, all of which are cheaper and less > >> troublesome than replacing the whole unit. > > |
Re: Buying a replacement engine
thanks jim,
i appreciate your help! do you know of any reputable vendors of these jdm motors? you mentioned "one of the direct jdm importers." also, is this industry legit? as in, are the mileages they quote for real or is it just B.S.? would i be better off going to the junk yard? thanks again (exciting saturday, right?). jim beam wrote: > larson.joshua@gmail.com wrote: > > i've done some looking online and it's difficult to discern what's what > > and if a given website is legitimate. that's the biggest difficulty. > > the biggest thing is to buy with a credit card [not debit card]. that > way, ultimately, if there's a problem, the vendor has to work with you > and the credit card company to resolve any problems. i'd just go for > one of the direct jdm importers with as low a mileage as possible. you > don't need much of a warranty - say a month. if it works, has no head > problems and doesn't burn oil, you're set - all those will be detectable > in the first week or so. > > > > > jim - you've helped me in the past and i appreciate that. here's the > > long story short: bought the car from a friend. when i bought it, it > > probably had a blown head gasket. after a while, the engine blew, > > overheated severely and i had head reworked. i did the work and > > installed new timing belt, new water pump, and of course new head > > gasket. > > > > the engine seemed to run just okay. it felt tired. then the temp > > started fluctuating. replaced thermostat a few times, rad cap a few > > times... was losing coolant. figured i messed up first gasket job. > > started #2. replaced timing belt, head gasket had head reworked. > > replaced distributor after the last one had bad crank sensor (caught > > warranty by a week!). > > > > car runs okay, but here's the thing it did after 1st and 2nd head > > gasket job: after i drive for a while, some kind of gas gets into the > > cooling system. it bubbles, not boils, pretty vigorously after i come > > home (up a mountainside). i could live with this, but i have to check > > the fluid levels every couple days now. the gas pushes coolant out, > > overflows the resevoir, makes a mess and then i have to fill it back > > up. > > something's cracked. > > > > > i am now feeling like the block is cracked or something else is majorly > > messed up. plus, i'm a little sick of working on this engine... > > replacement is 100% the way to go - not worth wasting another single > moment on that motor. onwards! > > > > > > > jim beam wrote: > >> larson.joshua@gmail.com wrote: > >>> i'm considering replacing the engine in my 1991 civic DX - i think it > >>> is a D15B2. > >>> > >>> i think i want just a straight replacement. i'm more interested in > >>> fuel economy than performance. > >>> > >>> does anyone have any experience or advice regarding purchasing engines? > >>> i need practical information regarding JDM engines, buying online and > >>> warranties. > >>> > >>> thanks! > >>> > >> what's wrong with yours and why do you want to replace it? how many > >> miles? i ask because if you think it's not performing right, there are > >> a number of possible causes, all of which are cheaper and less > >> troublesome than replacing the whole unit. > > |
Re: Buying a replacement engine
thanks jim,
i appreciate your help! do you know of any reputable vendors of these jdm motors? you mentioned "one of the direct jdm importers." also, is this industry legit? as in, are the mileages they quote for real or is it just B.S.? would i be better off going to the junk yard? thanks again (exciting saturday, right?). jim beam wrote: > larson.joshua@gmail.com wrote: > > i've done some looking online and it's difficult to discern what's what > > and if a given website is legitimate. that's the biggest difficulty. > > the biggest thing is to buy with a credit card [not debit card]. that > way, ultimately, if there's a problem, the vendor has to work with you > and the credit card company to resolve any problems. i'd just go for > one of the direct jdm importers with as low a mileage as possible. you > don't need much of a warranty - say a month. if it works, has no head > problems and doesn't burn oil, you're set - all those will be detectable > in the first week or so. > > > > > jim - you've helped me in the past and i appreciate that. here's the > > long story short: bought the car from a friend. when i bought it, it > > probably had a blown head gasket. after a while, the engine blew, > > overheated severely and i had head reworked. i did the work and > > installed new timing belt, new water pump, and of course new head > > gasket. > > > > the engine seemed to run just okay. it felt tired. then the temp > > started fluctuating. replaced thermostat a few times, rad cap a few > > times... was losing coolant. figured i messed up first gasket job. > > started #2. replaced timing belt, head gasket had head reworked. > > replaced distributor after the last one had bad crank sensor (caught > > warranty by a week!). > > > > car runs okay, but here's the thing it did after 1st and 2nd head > > gasket job: after i drive for a while, some kind of gas gets into the > > cooling system. it bubbles, not boils, pretty vigorously after i come > > home (up a mountainside). i could live with this, but i have to check > > the fluid levels every couple days now. the gas pushes coolant out, > > overflows the resevoir, makes a mess and then i have to fill it back > > up. > > something's cracked. > > > > > i am now feeling like the block is cracked or something else is majorly > > messed up. plus, i'm a little sick of working on this engine... > > replacement is 100% the way to go - not worth wasting another single > moment on that motor. onwards! > > > > > > > jim beam wrote: > >> larson.joshua@gmail.com wrote: > >>> i'm considering replacing the engine in my 1991 civic DX - i think it > >>> is a D15B2. > >>> > >>> i think i want just a straight replacement. i'm more interested in > >>> fuel economy than performance. > >>> > >>> does anyone have any experience or advice regarding purchasing engines? > >>> i need practical information regarding JDM engines, buying online and > >>> warranties. > >>> > >>> thanks! > >>> > >> what's wrong with yours and why do you want to replace it? how many > >> miles? i ask because if you think it's not performing right, there are > >> a number of possible causes, all of which are cheaper and less > >> troublesome than replacing the whole unit. > > |
Re: Buying a replacement engine
larson.joshua@gmail.com wrote:
> thanks jim, > > i appreciate your help! do you know of any reputable vendors of these > jdm motors? you mentioned "one of the direct jdm importers." > > also, is this industry legit? as in, are the mileages they quote for > real or is it just B.S.? would i be better off going to the junk yard? no, it's legit. mileages should be about right - other markets, particularly japan, do much lower mileage than us. that's why i'd only buy a domestic motor in emergency - /much/ higher mileage. but that said, there's no reason a d15 can't do 300k miles if it's not been cracked and has had the oil changed regularly. i'm not endorsing any of the following: http://www.sunrisejdmmotors.com/ http://www.nippon-motors.com/honda.htm http://www.naganojapanese.com/ there are a bunch of others if you google. good luck! > > thanks again (exciting saturday, right?). you're not going anywhere with that motor! > > jim beam wrote: >> larson.joshua@gmail.com wrote: >>> i've done some looking online and it's difficult to discern what's what >>> and if a given website is legitimate. that's the biggest difficulty. >> the biggest thing is to buy with a credit card [not debit card]. that >> way, ultimately, if there's a problem, the vendor has to work with you >> and the credit card company to resolve any problems. i'd just go for >> one of the direct jdm importers with as low a mileage as possible. you >> don't need much of a warranty - say a month. if it works, has no head >> problems and doesn't burn oil, you're set - all those will be detectable >> in the first week or so. >> >>> jim - you've helped me in the past and i appreciate that. here's the >>> long story short: bought the car from a friend. when i bought it, it >>> probably had a blown head gasket. after a while, the engine blew, >>> overheated severely and i had head reworked. i did the work and >>> installed new timing belt, new water pump, and of course new head >>> gasket. >>> >>> the engine seemed to run just okay. it felt tired. then the temp >>> started fluctuating. replaced thermostat a few times, rad cap a few >>> times... was losing coolant. figured i messed up first gasket job. >>> started #2. replaced timing belt, head gasket had head reworked. >>> replaced distributor after the last one had bad crank sensor (caught >>> warranty by a week!). >>> >>> car runs okay, but here's the thing it did after 1st and 2nd head >>> gasket job: after i drive for a while, some kind of gas gets into the >>> cooling system. it bubbles, not boils, pretty vigorously after i come >>> home (up a mountainside). i could live with this, but i have to check >>> the fluid levels every couple days now. the gas pushes coolant out, >>> overflows the resevoir, makes a mess and then i have to fill it back >>> up. >> something's cracked. >> >>> i am now feeling like the block is cracked or something else is majorly >>> messed up. plus, i'm a little sick of working on this engine... >> replacement is 100% the way to go - not worth wasting another single >> moment on that motor. onwards! >> >>> >>> jim beam wrote: >>>> larson.joshua@gmail.com wrote: >>>>> i'm considering replacing the engine in my 1991 civic DX - i think it >>>>> is a D15B2. >>>>> >>>>> i think i want just a straight replacement. i'm more interested in >>>>> fuel economy than performance. >>>>> >>>>> does anyone have any experience or advice regarding purchasing engines? >>>>> i need practical information regarding JDM engines, buying online and >>>>> warranties. >>>>> >>>>> thanks! >>>>> >>>> what's wrong with yours and why do you want to replace it? how many >>>> miles? i ask because if you think it's not performing right, there are >>>> a number of possible causes, all of which are cheaper and less >>>> troublesome than replacing the whole unit. > |
Re: Buying a replacement engine
larson.joshua@gmail.com wrote:
> thanks jim, > > i appreciate your help! do you know of any reputable vendors of these > jdm motors? you mentioned "one of the direct jdm importers." > > also, is this industry legit? as in, are the mileages they quote for > real or is it just B.S.? would i be better off going to the junk yard? no, it's legit. mileages should be about right - other markets, particularly japan, do much lower mileage than us. that's why i'd only buy a domestic motor in emergency - /much/ higher mileage. but that said, there's no reason a d15 can't do 300k miles if it's not been cracked and has had the oil changed regularly. i'm not endorsing any of the following: http://www.sunrisejdmmotors.com/ http://www.nippon-motors.com/honda.htm http://www.naganojapanese.com/ there are a bunch of others if you google. good luck! > > thanks again (exciting saturday, right?). you're not going anywhere with that motor! > > jim beam wrote: >> larson.joshua@gmail.com wrote: >>> i've done some looking online and it's difficult to discern what's what >>> and if a given website is legitimate. that's the biggest difficulty. >> the biggest thing is to buy with a credit card [not debit card]. that >> way, ultimately, if there's a problem, the vendor has to work with you >> and the credit card company to resolve any problems. i'd just go for >> one of the direct jdm importers with as low a mileage as possible. you >> don't need much of a warranty - say a month. if it works, has no head >> problems and doesn't burn oil, you're set - all those will be detectable >> in the first week or so. >> >>> jim - you've helped me in the past and i appreciate that. here's the >>> long story short: bought the car from a friend. when i bought it, it >>> probably had a blown head gasket. after a while, the engine blew, >>> overheated severely and i had head reworked. i did the work and >>> installed new timing belt, new water pump, and of course new head >>> gasket. >>> >>> the engine seemed to run just okay. it felt tired. then the temp >>> started fluctuating. replaced thermostat a few times, rad cap a few >>> times... was losing coolant. figured i messed up first gasket job. >>> started #2. replaced timing belt, head gasket had head reworked. >>> replaced distributor after the last one had bad crank sensor (caught >>> warranty by a week!). >>> >>> car runs okay, but here's the thing it did after 1st and 2nd head >>> gasket job: after i drive for a while, some kind of gas gets into the >>> cooling system. it bubbles, not boils, pretty vigorously after i come >>> home (up a mountainside). i could live with this, but i have to check >>> the fluid levels every couple days now. the gas pushes coolant out, >>> overflows the resevoir, makes a mess and then i have to fill it back >>> up. >> something's cracked. >> >>> i am now feeling like the block is cracked or something else is majorly >>> messed up. plus, i'm a little sick of working on this engine... >> replacement is 100% the way to go - not worth wasting another single >> moment on that motor. onwards! >> >>> >>> jim beam wrote: >>>> larson.joshua@gmail.com wrote: >>>>> i'm considering replacing the engine in my 1991 civic DX - i think it >>>>> is a D15B2. >>>>> >>>>> i think i want just a straight replacement. i'm more interested in >>>>> fuel economy than performance. >>>>> >>>>> does anyone have any experience or advice regarding purchasing engines? >>>>> i need practical information regarding JDM engines, buying online and >>>>> warranties. >>>>> >>>>> thanks! >>>>> >>>> what's wrong with yours and why do you want to replace it? how many >>>> miles? i ask because if you think it's not performing right, there are >>>> a number of possible causes, all of which are cheaper and less >>>> troublesome than replacing the whole unit. > |
Re: Buying a replacement engine
larson.joshua@gmail.com wrote:
> thanks jim, > > i appreciate your help! do you know of any reputable vendors of these > jdm motors? you mentioned "one of the direct jdm importers." > > also, is this industry legit? as in, are the mileages they quote for > real or is it just B.S.? would i be better off going to the junk yard? no, it's legit. mileages should be about right - other markets, particularly japan, do much lower mileage than us. that's why i'd only buy a domestic motor in emergency - /much/ higher mileage. but that said, there's no reason a d15 can't do 300k miles if it's not been cracked and has had the oil changed regularly. i'm not endorsing any of the following: http://www.sunrisejdmmotors.com/ http://www.nippon-motors.com/honda.htm http://www.naganojapanese.com/ there are a bunch of others if you google. good luck! > > thanks again (exciting saturday, right?). you're not going anywhere with that motor! > > jim beam wrote: >> larson.joshua@gmail.com wrote: >>> i've done some looking online and it's difficult to discern what's what >>> and if a given website is legitimate. that's the biggest difficulty. >> the biggest thing is to buy with a credit card [not debit card]. that >> way, ultimately, if there's a problem, the vendor has to work with you >> and the credit card company to resolve any problems. i'd just go for >> one of the direct jdm importers with as low a mileage as possible. you >> don't need much of a warranty - say a month. if it works, has no head >> problems and doesn't burn oil, you're set - all those will be detectable >> in the first week or so. >> >>> jim - you've helped me in the past and i appreciate that. here's the >>> long story short: bought the car from a friend. when i bought it, it >>> probably had a blown head gasket. after a while, the engine blew, >>> overheated severely and i had head reworked. i did the work and >>> installed new timing belt, new water pump, and of course new head >>> gasket. >>> >>> the engine seemed to run just okay. it felt tired. then the temp >>> started fluctuating. replaced thermostat a few times, rad cap a few >>> times... was losing coolant. figured i messed up first gasket job. >>> started #2. replaced timing belt, head gasket had head reworked. >>> replaced distributor after the last one had bad crank sensor (caught >>> warranty by a week!). >>> >>> car runs okay, but here's the thing it did after 1st and 2nd head >>> gasket job: after i drive for a while, some kind of gas gets into the >>> cooling system. it bubbles, not boils, pretty vigorously after i come >>> home (up a mountainside). i could live with this, but i have to check >>> the fluid levels every couple days now. the gas pushes coolant out, >>> overflows the resevoir, makes a mess and then i have to fill it back >>> up. >> something's cracked. >> >>> i am now feeling like the block is cracked or something else is majorly >>> messed up. plus, i'm a little sick of working on this engine... >> replacement is 100% the way to go - not worth wasting another single >> moment on that motor. onwards! >> >>> >>> jim beam wrote: >>>> larson.joshua@gmail.com wrote: >>>>> i'm considering replacing the engine in my 1991 civic DX - i think it >>>>> is a D15B2. >>>>> >>>>> i think i want just a straight replacement. i'm more interested in >>>>> fuel economy than performance. >>>>> >>>>> does anyone have any experience or advice regarding purchasing engines? >>>>> i need practical information regarding JDM engines, buying online and >>>>> warranties. >>>>> >>>>> thanks! >>>>> >>>> what's wrong with yours and why do you want to replace it? how many >>>> miles? i ask because if you think it's not performing right, there are >>>> a number of possible causes, all of which are cheaper and less >>>> troublesome than replacing the whole unit. > |
Re: Buying a replacement engine
jim beam wrote:
> > the biggest thing is to buy with a credit card [not debit card]. that > way, ultimately, if there's a problem, the vendor has to work with you > and the credit card company to resolve any problems. i'd just go for > one of the direct jdm importers with as low a mileage as possible. you > don't need much of a warranty - say a month. if it works, has no head > problems and doesn't burn oil, you're set - all those will be detectable > in the first week or so. > Ah, but how is one to know if the stated mileage is accurate? And what do you know about how the engine was maintained ... nothing. Sounds like a crap shoot to me. |
Re: Buying a replacement engine
jim beam wrote:
> > the biggest thing is to buy with a credit card [not debit card]. that > way, ultimately, if there's a problem, the vendor has to work with you > and the credit card company to resolve any problems. i'd just go for > one of the direct jdm importers with as low a mileage as possible. you > don't need much of a warranty - say a month. if it works, has no head > problems and doesn't burn oil, you're set - all those will be detectable > in the first week or so. > Ah, but how is one to know if the stated mileage is accurate? And what do you know about how the engine was maintained ... nothing. Sounds like a crap shoot to me. |
Re: Buying a replacement engine
jim beam wrote:
> > the biggest thing is to buy with a credit card [not debit card]. that > way, ultimately, if there's a problem, the vendor has to work with you > and the credit card company to resolve any problems. i'd just go for > one of the direct jdm importers with as low a mileage as possible. you > don't need much of a warranty - say a month. if it works, has no head > problems and doesn't burn oil, you're set - all those will be detectable > in the first week or so. > Ah, but how is one to know if the stated mileage is accurate? And what do you know about how the engine was maintained ... nothing. Sounds like a crap shoot to me. |
Re: Buying a replacement engine
John Horner wrote:
> jim beam wrote: > >> >> the biggest thing is to buy with a credit card [not debit card]. that >> way, ultimately, if there's a problem, the vendor has to work with you >> and the credit card company to resolve any problems. i'd just go for >> one of the direct jdm importers with as low a mileage as possible. >> you don't need much of a warranty - say a month. if it works, has no >> head problems and doesn't burn oil, you're set - all those will be >> detectable in the first week or so. >> > > Ah, but how is one to know if the stated mileage is accurate? And what > do you know about how the engine was maintained ... nothing. > > Sounds like a crap shoot to me. > you have no way of ensuring mileage accuracy with a domestic junk yard either. well, you kind of do - you're guaranteed that it's done a /lot/ more miles than a japanese motor. one more thing worth consideration. in the hondas i've had, the japanese made motors seem to be better balanced than the ones made here. there's no real reason why this should be, but that's been my experience. |
Re: Buying a replacement engine
John Horner wrote:
> jim beam wrote: > >> >> the biggest thing is to buy with a credit card [not debit card]. that >> way, ultimately, if there's a problem, the vendor has to work with you >> and the credit card company to resolve any problems. i'd just go for >> one of the direct jdm importers with as low a mileage as possible. >> you don't need much of a warranty - say a month. if it works, has no >> head problems and doesn't burn oil, you're set - all those will be >> detectable in the first week or so. >> > > Ah, but how is one to know if the stated mileage is accurate? And what > do you know about how the engine was maintained ... nothing. > > Sounds like a crap shoot to me. > you have no way of ensuring mileage accuracy with a domestic junk yard either. well, you kind of do - you're guaranteed that it's done a /lot/ more miles than a japanese motor. one more thing worth consideration. in the hondas i've had, the japanese made motors seem to be better balanced than the ones made here. there's no real reason why this should be, but that's been my experience. |
Re: Buying a replacement engine
John Horner wrote:
> jim beam wrote: > >> >> the biggest thing is to buy with a credit card [not debit card]. that >> way, ultimately, if there's a problem, the vendor has to work with you >> and the credit card company to resolve any problems. i'd just go for >> one of the direct jdm importers with as low a mileage as possible. >> you don't need much of a warranty - say a month. if it works, has no >> head problems and doesn't burn oil, you're set - all those will be >> detectable in the first week or so. >> > > Ah, but how is one to know if the stated mileage is accurate? And what > do you know about how the engine was maintained ... nothing. > > Sounds like a crap shoot to me. > you have no way of ensuring mileage accuracy with a domestic junk yard either. well, you kind of do - you're guaranteed that it's done a /lot/ more miles than a japanese motor. one more thing worth consideration. in the hondas i've had, the japanese made motors seem to be better balanced than the ones made here. there's no real reason why this should be, but that's been my experience. |
Re: Buying a replacement engine
"John Horner" <jthorner@yahoo.com> wrote in message
news:9DHlh.6785$tc5.2649@trnddc01... > jim beam wrote: > >> >> the biggest thing is to buy with a credit card [not debit card]. that >> way, ultimately, if there's a problem, the vendor has to work with you >> and the credit card company to resolve any problems. i'd just go for one >> of the direct jdm importers with as low a mileage as possible. you don't >> need much of a warranty - say a month. if it works, has no head problems >> and doesn't burn oil, you're set - all those will be detectable in the >> first week or so. >> > > Ah, but how is one to know if the stated mileage is accurate? And what do > you know about how the engine was maintained ... nothing. > > Sounds like a crap shoot to me. > There's something about a car that isn't? The odds should be good, though. As I understand it Japanese emission standards are so tight that engines are replaced because of normal wear long before they would be considered unserviceable here. I would put a new timing belt and water pump on before putting the engine in a car, though. It's got to be easier to do on a stand, and then the new owner knows when it is due again. Mike |
Re: Buying a replacement engine
"John Horner" <jthorner@yahoo.com> wrote in message
news:9DHlh.6785$tc5.2649@trnddc01... > jim beam wrote: > >> >> the biggest thing is to buy with a credit card [not debit card]. that >> way, ultimately, if there's a problem, the vendor has to work with you >> and the credit card company to resolve any problems. i'd just go for one >> of the direct jdm importers with as low a mileage as possible. you don't >> need much of a warranty - say a month. if it works, has no head problems >> and doesn't burn oil, you're set - all those will be detectable in the >> first week or so. >> > > Ah, but how is one to know if the stated mileage is accurate? And what do > you know about how the engine was maintained ... nothing. > > Sounds like a crap shoot to me. > There's something about a car that isn't? The odds should be good, though. As I understand it Japanese emission standards are so tight that engines are replaced because of normal wear long before they would be considered unserviceable here. I would put a new timing belt and water pump on before putting the engine in a car, though. It's got to be easier to do on a stand, and then the new owner knows when it is due again. Mike |
Re: Buying a replacement engine
"John Horner" <jthorner@yahoo.com> wrote in message
news:9DHlh.6785$tc5.2649@trnddc01... > jim beam wrote: > >> >> the biggest thing is to buy with a credit card [not debit card]. that >> way, ultimately, if there's a problem, the vendor has to work with you >> and the credit card company to resolve any problems. i'd just go for one >> of the direct jdm importers with as low a mileage as possible. you don't >> need much of a warranty - say a month. if it works, has no head problems >> and doesn't burn oil, you're set - all those will be detectable in the >> first week or so. >> > > Ah, but how is one to know if the stated mileage is accurate? And what do > you know about how the engine was maintained ... nothing. > > Sounds like a crap shoot to me. > There's something about a car that isn't? The odds should be good, though. As I understand it Japanese emission standards are so tight that engines are replaced because of normal wear long before they would be considered unserviceable here. I would put a new timing belt and water pump on before putting the engine in a car, though. It's got to be easier to do on a stand, and then the new owner knows when it is due again. Mike |
Re: Buying a replacement engine
I just looked over the threads of this saga the OP began
earlier this year. Yikes. With all the other reports of head gasket (or block or head etc.) failures, especially those reported in summer time, I wonder if the newsgroup will continue to see repeat failures resulting in the need for a replacement engine. Granted this is happening overwhelmingly in older Hondas, c. 1988-1993, so it's hard to say if it's due to an imperfect repair job; extraordinary summer heat; or simply the age of these older Hondas. |
Re: Buying a replacement engine
I just looked over the threads of this saga the OP began
earlier this year. Yikes. With all the other reports of head gasket (or block or head etc.) failures, especially those reported in summer time, I wonder if the newsgroup will continue to see repeat failures resulting in the need for a replacement engine. Granted this is happening overwhelmingly in older Hondas, c. 1988-1993, so it's hard to say if it's due to an imperfect repair job; extraordinary summer heat; or simply the age of these older Hondas. |
Re: Buying a replacement engine
I just looked over the threads of this saga the OP began
earlier this year. Yikes. With all the other reports of head gasket (or block or head etc.) failures, especially those reported in summer time, I wonder if the newsgroup will continue to see repeat failures resulting in the need for a replacement engine. Granted this is happening overwhelmingly in older Hondas, c. 1988-1993, so it's hard to say if it's due to an imperfect repair job; extraordinary summer heat; or simply the age of these older Hondas. |
Re: Buying a replacement engine
Michael Pardee wrote:
> > There's something about a car that isn't? > > The odds should be good, though. As I understand it Japanese emission > standards are so tight that engines are replaced because of normal wear > long before they would be considered unserviceable here. > > I would put a new timing belt and water pump on before putting the engine > in a car, though. It's got to be easier to do on a stand, and then the > new owner knows when it is due again. > A new thermostat would also be a great idea. Eric |
Re: Buying a replacement engine
Michael Pardee wrote:
> > There's something about a car that isn't? > > The odds should be good, though. As I understand it Japanese emission > standards are so tight that engines are replaced because of normal wear > long before they would be considered unserviceable here. > > I would put a new timing belt and water pump on before putting the engine > in a car, though. It's got to be easier to do on a stand, and then the > new owner knows when it is due again. > A new thermostat would also be a great idea. Eric |
Re: Buying a replacement engine
Michael Pardee wrote:
> > There's something about a car that isn't? > > The odds should be good, though. As I understand it Japanese emission > standards are so tight that engines are replaced because of normal wear > long before they would be considered unserviceable here. > > I would put a new timing belt and water pump on before putting the engine > in a car, though. It's got to be easier to do on a stand, and then the > new owner knows when it is due again. > A new thermostat would also be a great idea. Eric |
Re: Buying a replacement engine
"Eric" <say.no@spam.now> wrote in message news:4599339A.CE55AEA@spam.now...
> > A new thermostat would also be a great idea. > > Eric Oh, yeah... an OEM thermostat! |
Re: Buying a replacement engine
"Eric" <say.no@spam.now> wrote in message news:4599339A.CE55AEA@spam.now...
> > A new thermostat would also be a great idea. > > Eric Oh, yeah... an OEM thermostat! |
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