Re: Bye Bye Honda Fit! Helllllllllooooooooooo Mazdaspeed3!!!!!
 

Gordon McGrew wrote:
> On 20 Jun 2006 21:40:36 -0700, "Body Roll" <aglyport@gmail.com> wrote:
>
>
>>Gordon McGrew wrote:
>>
>>>On 19 Jun 2006 21:07:06 -0700, "Body Roll" <aglyport@gmail.com> wrote:
>>
>>>I recall an article (WSJ?) on how some car companies (and I think
>>>Mitsubishi was specifically mentioned) would take note of participants
>>>in all racing events down to the autocross level and deny any warranty
>>>claims based on participation.
>>
>>that's fine. I have no money to blow on the track/autocross anyway.
>>and i haven't heard many horror stories about evo reliability.
>>do you have links?
>
>
>
>
> Well, this is what I found with a Google search:
>
> This is from a defunct web page:
>
> http://64.233.187.104/search?q=cache...s&ct=clnk&cd=3
>
> WARNING WILL ROBINSON!!
> BIG BROTHER IS WATCHING!!
>
> Just got an official reply to my nice little letter to the president
> of
> Mitsubishi, asking him to honor my warranty claim.
>
> Here's part of the letter from the customer connections manager:
>
> "It is our determination that the damage done to your vehicle was
> directly
> related to the use of your vehicle for racing. Your website posts
> times,
> location, and duration of contests."*
>
> I never told them I had a website, so this confirms all the rumors
> we've
> been hearing that Mitsubishi monitors our activities, at tracks and on
> the
> Web.
>
> My advice to all of you is:
>
> 1. Do not ever buy a new car with a Mitsubishi warranty. If you want
> an
> Evo or a Lancer or whatever, buy it used from a General Motors dealer,
> and
> then purchase the GM aftermarket warranty. GM's warranty is the best
> in the
> business.
>
> 2. If you road race, drag race, autocross, or indulge in any other
> motorsport, be aware that Mitsubishi observes some of these events in
> person, and notes what Mitsu vehicles are competing.
>
> 3. If you communicate on our discussion groups, better get an alias.
> Big
> Brother is watching this forum and all other lists. They identify us
> by
> name, car, etc., and use the information to deny warranty claims.
> Rumors
> have been flying that they deny ALL claims, not just on equipment that
> could possibly be damaged by racing.
>
they have to prove it. just 'cos you raced a mitsu doesn't mean it's
the same vehicle as affected by a warranty issue. heck, if you're a
mitsu fan, you'll have two or three of them, one for towing the racer to
events, one for the wife, etc. denial based on "inconclusive" web
browsing is a try-on. and they know it. don't take "no" for an answer.
you have rights in this matter. exercise them.

Re: Bye Bye Honda Fit! Helllllllllooooooooooo Mazdaspeed3!!!!!
 

Gordon McGrew wrote:
> On 20 Jun 2006 21:40:36 -0700, "Body Roll" <aglyport@gmail.com> wrote:
>
>
>>Gordon McGrew wrote:
>>
>>>On 19 Jun 2006 21:07:06 -0700, "Body Roll" <aglyport@gmail.com> wrote:
>>
>>>I recall an article (WSJ?) on how some car companies (and I think
>>>Mitsubishi was specifically mentioned) would take note of participants
>>>in all racing events down to the autocross level and deny any warranty
>>>claims based on participation.
>>
>>that's fine. I have no money to blow on the track/autocross anyway.
>>and i haven't heard many horror stories about evo reliability.
>>do you have links?
>
>
>
>
> Well, this is what I found with a Google search:
>
> This is from a defunct web page:
>
> http://64.233.187.104/search?q=cache...s&ct=clnk&cd=3
>
> WARNING WILL ROBINSON!!
> BIG BROTHER IS WATCHING!!
>
> Just got an official reply to my nice little letter to the president
> of
> Mitsubishi, asking him to honor my warranty claim.
>
> Here's part of the letter from the customer connections manager:
>
> "It is our determination that the damage done to your vehicle was
> directly
> related to the use of your vehicle for racing. Your website posts
> times,
> location, and duration of contests."*
>
> I never told them I had a website, so this confirms all the rumors
> we've
> been hearing that Mitsubishi monitors our activities, at tracks and on
> the
> Web.
>
> My advice to all of you is:
>
> 1. Do not ever buy a new car with a Mitsubishi warranty. If you want
> an
> Evo or a Lancer or whatever, buy it used from a General Motors dealer,
> and
> then purchase the GM aftermarket warranty. GM's warranty is the best
> in the
> business.
>
> 2. If you road race, drag race, autocross, or indulge in any other
> motorsport, be aware that Mitsubishi observes some of these events in
> person, and notes what Mitsu vehicles are competing.
>
> 3. If you communicate on our discussion groups, better get an alias.
> Big
> Brother is watching this forum and all other lists. They identify us
> by
> name, car, etc., and use the information to deny warranty claims.
> Rumors
> have been flying that they deny ALL claims, not just on equipment that
> could possibly be damaged by racing.
>
they have to prove it. just 'cos you raced a mitsu doesn't mean it's
the same vehicle as affected by a warranty issue. heck, if you're a
mitsu fan, you'll have two or three of them, one for towing the racer to
events, one for the wife, etc. denial based on "inconclusive" web
browsing is a try-on. and they know it. don't take "no" for an answer.
you have rights in this matter. exercise them.

Re: Bye Bye Honda Fit! Helllllllllooooooooooo Mazdaspeed3!!!!!
 

Alan Browne wrote:
> Gordon McGrew wrote:
>
> > 2. If you road race, drag race, autocross, or indulge in any other
> > motorsport, be aware that Mitsubishi observes some of these events in
> > person, and notes what Mitsu vehicles are competing.
> >
> > 3. If you communicate on our discussion groups, better get an alias.
> > Big
> > Brother is watching this forum and all other lists. They identify us
> > by
>
> Maybe time to use cars for transportation (what they're really all
> about) and not racing.

Maybe not. But if I were Mitsubishi I would not want to pay for any
repairs on a car that was raced. Racing = rapid wear and tear.
Why should they cover it? I think every car maker has explicit
statements in the warranty saying that racing equals automatic
cancellation of a warranty. If you race $30k car you'd better have
cash to pay for all repairs out of pocket or race something cheaper.
Period.

Re: Bye Bye Honda Fit! Helllllllllooooooooooo Mazdaspeed3!!!!!
 

Alan Browne wrote:
> Gordon McGrew wrote:
>
> > 2. If you road race, drag race, autocross, or indulge in any other
> > motorsport, be aware that Mitsubishi observes some of these events in
> > person, and notes what Mitsu vehicles are competing.
> >
> > 3. If you communicate on our discussion groups, better get an alias.
> > Big
> > Brother is watching this forum and all other lists. They identify us
> > by
>
> Maybe time to use cars for transportation (what they're really all
> about) and not racing.

Maybe not. But if I were Mitsubishi I would not want to pay for any
repairs on a car that was raced. Racing = rapid wear and tear.
Why should they cover it? I think every car maker has explicit
statements in the warranty saying that racing equals automatic
cancellation of a warranty. If you race $30k car you'd better have
cash to pay for all repairs out of pocket or race something cheaper.
Period.

Re: Bye Bye Honda Fit! Helllllllllooooooooooo Mazdaspeed3!!!!!
 

Alan Browne wrote:
> Gordon McGrew wrote:
>
> > 2. If you road race, drag race, autocross, or indulge in any other
> > motorsport, be aware that Mitsubishi observes some of these events in
> > person, and notes what Mitsu vehicles are competing.
> >
> > 3. If you communicate on our discussion groups, better get an alias.
> > Big
> > Brother is watching this forum and all other lists. They identify us
> > by
>
> Maybe time to use cars for transportation (what they're really all
> about) and not racing.

Maybe not. But if I were Mitsubishi I would not want to pay for any
repairs on a car that was raced. Racing = rapid wear and tear.
Why should they cover it? I think every car maker has explicit
statements in the warranty saying that racing equals automatic
cancellation of a warranty. If you race $30k car you'd better have
cash to pay for all repairs out of pocket or race something cheaper.
Period.