A/C pipe leaking freon
06-26-2005, 02:38 AM
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Re: A/C pipe leaking freon
"HND" <fake_one@mail.com> wrote in message
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> the fact is - A/C system is empty now and I've got an estimation from
> mechanic $110 (CAD) for the pipe + labour ( bumper removal etc) + $120
> system refill.
> He didn't say anything about conversion though. So I would guess it's even
> more.
> I would like to try patching with JB Weld but Canadian Tire doesn't carry
> it .
> They have liquid aluminium there.
> Is it the same stuff?
No - JB Weld is a brand of steel-filled epoxy. Pretty much any steel-filled
epoxy will do the same thing. It is available at most hardware stores in a
variety of forms, from slow set to very quick set. All take about 24 hours
to develop full strength. I haven't used liquid aluminum, but if it is
aluminum-filled epoxy it should be pretty similar.
>
> Pinhole developed because of the contact that pipe had with the other one
> below
> ( I guess it's a galvanic effect) .
Then I think it's worth a try. Be sure there is no pressure inside to try to
bubble up through the epoxy - applying it at night when the temperature is
already dropping should do the trick - and be sure there is no trace of oil
on the pipe.
>
> thanks guys for your input. I appreciate.
>
>
>
>
>
>
> "Michael Pardee" <michaeltnull@cybertrails.com> wrote in message
> news:4rednR9fL5-ediHfRVn-qg@sedona.net...
>> "HND" <fake_one@mail.com> wrote in message
>> news:d9ic0c$5m7$2@utornnr1pp.grouptelecom.net...
>>> guys,
>>>
>>> I've got an A/C pipe leaking Freon ( the one in front the evaporator )
>>> on
>>> Honda '93 accord.
>>> It's actually a tiny hole in it and hate an idea of spending $300-$400
>>> to
>>> get it replaced .
>>> Is it possible to seal it with the stuff like a liquid aluminium or
>>> smth.
>>> like that and refill the system?
>>>
>>> thanks
>>>
>> I have successfully repaired pinholes in aluminum, including one A/C high
>> side pipe, with JB Weld. But the pressure has to be completely relieved -
>> pulling a vacuum is best - and the area has to be 100% oil free. Brake
>> cleaner is good for prepping the area, and a dab of JB Weld is all you
>> need.
>>
>> Before you get excited about it, have you determined why the pinhole
>> developed? Others may be in the works.
>>
>> Mike
>>
>
>
>
news:d9lcsn$jdn$1@utornnr1pp.grouptelecom.net...
> the fact is - A/C system is empty now and I've got an estimation from
> mechanic $110 (CAD) for the pipe + labour ( bumper removal etc) + $120
> system refill.
> He didn't say anything about conversion though. So I would guess it's even
> more.
> I would like to try patching with JB Weld but Canadian Tire doesn't carry
> it .
> They have liquid aluminium there.
> Is it the same stuff?
No - JB Weld is a brand of steel-filled epoxy. Pretty much any steel-filled
epoxy will do the same thing. It is available at most hardware stores in a
variety of forms, from slow set to very quick set. All take about 24 hours
to develop full strength. I haven't used liquid aluminum, but if it is
aluminum-filled epoxy it should be pretty similar.
>
> Pinhole developed because of the contact that pipe had with the other one
> below
> ( I guess it's a galvanic effect) .
Then I think it's worth a try. Be sure there is no pressure inside to try to
bubble up through the epoxy - applying it at night when the temperature is
already dropping should do the trick - and be sure there is no trace of oil
on the pipe.
>
> thanks guys for your input. I appreciate.
>
>
>
>
>
>
> "Michael Pardee" <michaeltnull@cybertrails.com> wrote in message
> news:4rednR9fL5-ediHfRVn-qg@sedona.net...
>> "HND" <fake_one@mail.com> wrote in message
>> news:d9ic0c$5m7$2@utornnr1pp.grouptelecom.net...
>>> guys,
>>>
>>> I've got an A/C pipe leaking Freon ( the one in front the evaporator )
>>> on
>>> Honda '93 accord.
>>> It's actually a tiny hole in it and hate an idea of spending $300-$400
>>> to
>>> get it replaced .
>>> Is it possible to seal it with the stuff like a liquid aluminium or
>>> smth.
>>> like that and refill the system?
>>>
>>> thanks
>>>
>> I have successfully repaired pinholes in aluminum, including one A/C high
>> side pipe, with JB Weld. But the pressure has to be completely relieved -
>> pulling a vacuum is best - and the area has to be 100% oil free. Brake
>> cleaner is good for prepping the area, and a dab of JB Weld is all you
>> need.
>>
>> Before you get excited about it, have you determined why the pinhole
>> developed? Others may be in the works.
>>
>> Mike
>>
>
>
>
06-26-2005, 02:38 AM
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Re: A/C pipe leaking freon
"HND" <fake_one@mail.com> wrote in message
news:d9lcsn$jdn$1@utornnr1pp.grouptelecom.net...
> the fact is - A/C system is empty now and I've got an estimation from
> mechanic $110 (CAD) for the pipe + labour ( bumper removal etc) + $120
> system refill.
> He didn't say anything about conversion though. So I would guess it's even
> more.
> I would like to try patching with JB Weld but Canadian Tire doesn't carry
> it .
> They have liquid aluminium there.
> Is it the same stuff?
No - JB Weld is a brand of steel-filled epoxy. Pretty much any steel-filled
epoxy will do the same thing. It is available at most hardware stores in a
variety of forms, from slow set to very quick set. All take about 24 hours
to develop full strength. I haven't used liquid aluminum, but if it is
aluminum-filled epoxy it should be pretty similar.
>
> Pinhole developed because of the contact that pipe had with the other one
> below
> ( I guess it's a galvanic effect) .
Then I think it's worth a try. Be sure there is no pressure inside to try to
bubble up through the epoxy - applying it at night when the temperature is
already dropping should do the trick - and be sure there is no trace of oil
on the pipe.
>
> thanks guys for your input. I appreciate.
>
>
>
>
>
>
> "Michael Pardee" <michaeltnull@cybertrails.com> wrote in message
> news:4rednR9fL5-ediHfRVn-qg@sedona.net...
>> "HND" <fake_one@mail.com> wrote in message
>> news:d9ic0c$5m7$2@utornnr1pp.grouptelecom.net...
>>> guys,
>>>
>>> I've got an A/C pipe leaking Freon ( the one in front the evaporator )
>>> on
>>> Honda '93 accord.
>>> It's actually a tiny hole in it and hate an idea of spending $300-$400
>>> to
>>> get it replaced .
>>> Is it possible to seal it with the stuff like a liquid aluminium or
>>> smth.
>>> like that and refill the system?
>>>
>>> thanks
>>>
>> I have successfully repaired pinholes in aluminum, including one A/C high
>> side pipe, with JB Weld. But the pressure has to be completely relieved -
>> pulling a vacuum is best - and the area has to be 100% oil free. Brake
>> cleaner is good for prepping the area, and a dab of JB Weld is all you
>> need.
>>
>> Before you get excited about it, have you determined why the pinhole
>> developed? Others may be in the works.
>>
>> Mike
>>
>
>
>
news:d9lcsn$jdn$1@utornnr1pp.grouptelecom.net...
> the fact is - A/C system is empty now and I've got an estimation from
> mechanic $110 (CAD) for the pipe + labour ( bumper removal etc) + $120
> system refill.
> He didn't say anything about conversion though. So I would guess it's even
> more.
> I would like to try patching with JB Weld but Canadian Tire doesn't carry
> it .
> They have liquid aluminium there.
> Is it the same stuff?
No - JB Weld is a brand of steel-filled epoxy. Pretty much any steel-filled
epoxy will do the same thing. It is available at most hardware stores in a
variety of forms, from slow set to very quick set. All take about 24 hours
to develop full strength. I haven't used liquid aluminum, but if it is
aluminum-filled epoxy it should be pretty similar.
>
> Pinhole developed because of the contact that pipe had with the other one
> below
> ( I guess it's a galvanic effect) .
Then I think it's worth a try. Be sure there is no pressure inside to try to
bubble up through the epoxy - applying it at night when the temperature is
already dropping should do the trick - and be sure there is no trace of oil
on the pipe.
>
> thanks guys for your input. I appreciate.
>
>
>
>
>
>
> "Michael Pardee" <michaeltnull@cybertrails.com> wrote in message
> news:4rednR9fL5-ediHfRVn-qg@sedona.net...
>> "HND" <fake_one@mail.com> wrote in message
>> news:d9ic0c$5m7$2@utornnr1pp.grouptelecom.net...
>>> guys,
>>>
>>> I've got an A/C pipe leaking Freon ( the one in front the evaporator )
>>> on
>>> Honda '93 accord.
>>> It's actually a tiny hole in it and hate an idea of spending $300-$400
>>> to
>>> get it replaced .
>>> Is it possible to seal it with the stuff like a liquid aluminium or
>>> smth.
>>> like that and refill the system?
>>>
>>> thanks
>>>
>> I have successfully repaired pinholes in aluminum, including one A/C high
>> side pipe, with JB Weld. But the pressure has to be completely relieved -
>> pulling a vacuum is best - and the area has to be 100% oil free. Brake
>> cleaner is good for prepping the area, and a dab of JB Weld is all you
>> need.
>>
>> Before you get excited about it, have you determined why the pinhole
>> developed? Others may be in the works.
>>
>> Mike
>>
>
>
>
06-26-2005, 07:10 AM
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Re: A/C pipe leaking freon
HND <fake_one@mail.com> wrote:
> guys,
> I've got an A/C pipe leaking Freon ( the one in front the evaporator ) on
> Honda '93 accord.
> It's actually a tiny hole in it and hate an idea of spending $300-$400 to
> get it replaced .
> Is it possible to seal it with the stuff like a liquid aluminium or smth.
> like that and refill the system?
> thanks
I have a 1993 Accord, and my A/C began to fail a few weeks ago.
I brought my car to my mechanic yesterday. He converted to R134
and he detected a very slight slight leak in the evaporator. He
he said the evaporator repair would cost $250, but he recommended
that I try an A/C sealant instead.
http://www.thetoolwarehouse.net/shop/CLP-946KIT.html
My mechanic said that of all the types of work he does on Hondas,
A/C repair has the highest rate of returns for recurring problems.
He said there are hundereds of places the A/C system could be
developing leaks and the best approach would be to try the sealant
first.
The R134 system is works well and is quite cold.
Andrew
> guys,
> I've got an A/C pipe leaking Freon ( the one in front the evaporator ) on
> Honda '93 accord.
> It's actually a tiny hole in it and hate an idea of spending $300-$400 to
> get it replaced .
> Is it possible to seal it with the stuff like a liquid aluminium or smth.
> like that and refill the system?
> thanks
I have a 1993 Accord, and my A/C began to fail a few weeks ago.
I brought my car to my mechanic yesterday. He converted to R134
and he detected a very slight slight leak in the evaporator. He
he said the evaporator repair would cost $250, but he recommended
that I try an A/C sealant instead.
http://www.thetoolwarehouse.net/shop/CLP-946KIT.html
My mechanic said that of all the types of work he does on Hondas,
A/C repair has the highest rate of returns for recurring problems.
He said there are hundereds of places the A/C system could be
developing leaks and the best approach would be to try the sealant
first.
The R134 system is works well and is quite cold.
Andrew
06-26-2005, 07:10 AM
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Re: A/C pipe leaking freon
HND <fake_one@mail.com> wrote:
> guys,
> I've got an A/C pipe leaking Freon ( the one in front the evaporator ) on
> Honda '93 accord.
> It's actually a tiny hole in it and hate an idea of spending $300-$400 to
> get it replaced .
> Is it possible to seal it with the stuff like a liquid aluminium or smth.
> like that and refill the system?
> thanks
I have a 1993 Accord, and my A/C began to fail a few weeks ago.
I brought my car to my mechanic yesterday. He converted to R134
and he detected a very slight slight leak in the evaporator. He
he said the evaporator repair would cost $250, but he recommended
that I try an A/C sealant instead.
http://www.thetoolwarehouse.net/shop/CLP-946KIT.html
My mechanic said that of all the types of work he does on Hondas,
A/C repair has the highest rate of returns for recurring problems.
He said there are hundereds of places the A/C system could be
developing leaks and the best approach would be to try the sealant
first.
The R134 system is works well and is quite cold.
Andrew
> guys,
> I've got an A/C pipe leaking Freon ( the one in front the evaporator ) on
> Honda '93 accord.
> It's actually a tiny hole in it and hate an idea of spending $300-$400 to
> get it replaced .
> Is it possible to seal it with the stuff like a liquid aluminium or smth.
> like that and refill the system?
> thanks
I have a 1993 Accord, and my A/C began to fail a few weeks ago.
I brought my car to my mechanic yesterday. He converted to R134
and he detected a very slight slight leak in the evaporator. He
he said the evaporator repair would cost $250, but he recommended
that I try an A/C sealant instead.
http://www.thetoolwarehouse.net/shop/CLP-946KIT.html
My mechanic said that of all the types of work he does on Hondas,
A/C repair has the highest rate of returns for recurring problems.
He said there are hundereds of places the A/C system could be
developing leaks and the best approach would be to try the sealant
first.
The R134 system is works well and is quite cold.
Andrew
06-26-2005, 07:11 AM
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Re: A/C pipe leaking freon
"HND" <fake_one@mail.com> wrote in message
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> the fact is - A/C system is empty now and I've got an estimation from
> mechanic $110 (CAD) for the pipe + labour ( bumper removal etc) + $120
> system refill.
> He didn't say anything about conversion though. So I would guess it's even
> more.
> I would like to try patching with JB Weld but Canadian Tire doesn't carry
> it .
They certainly do. Try a different store.
06-26-2005, 07:11 AM
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Re: A/C pipe leaking freon
"HND" <fake_one@mail.com> wrote in message
news:d9lcsn$jdn$1@utornnr1pp.grouptelecom.net...
> the fact is - A/C system is empty now and I've got an estimation from
> mechanic $110 (CAD) for the pipe + labour ( bumper removal etc) + $120
> system refill.
> He didn't say anything about conversion though. So I would guess it's even
> more.
> I would like to try patching with JB Weld but Canadian Tire doesn't carry
> it .
They certainly do. Try a different store.
06-26-2005, 10:10 AM
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Re: A/C pipe leaking freon
"Andrew" <andrew@nats.edu> wrote in message
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> HND <fake_one@mail.com> wrote:
>> guys,
>
>> I've got an A/C pipe leaking Freon ( the one in front the evaporator )
>> on
>> Honda '93 accord.
>> It's actually a tiny hole in it and hate an idea of spending $300-$400 to
>> get it replaced .
>> Is it possible to seal it with the stuff like a liquid aluminium or smth.
>> like that and refill the system?
>> thanks
>
> I have a 1993 Accord, and my A/C began to fail a few weeks ago.
> I brought my car to my mechanic yesterday. He converted to R134
> and he detected a very slight slight leak in the evaporator. He
> he said the evaporator repair would cost $250, but he recommended
> that I try an A/C sealant instead.
>
> http://www.thetoolwarehouse.net/shop/CLP-946KIT.html
>
> My mechanic said that of all the types of work he does on Hondas,
> A/C repair has the highest rate of returns for recurring problems.
> He said there are hundereds of places the A/C system could be
> developing leaks and the best approach would be to try the sealant
> first.
>
> The R134 system is works well and is quite cold.
>
> Andrew
>
1993 was one of the first years for major evaporator leakage problems
industrywide. Many mfrs were changing to R134a and the evaporators they were
using (I don't know just what the difference was - maybe different alloy?)
began developing pinhole leaks. The problem was traced to corrosion caused
by dirt and pollen building up in the condensation on the evaporator and
forming a corrosive mud. Sealants would stop the initial leak, but more
would form. By 1995 just about everybody had added the now ubiquitous cabin
air filters to keep the mud from forming.
Mike
news:d9m2eg$d19$1@news-int.gatech.edu...
> HND <fake_one@mail.com> wrote:
>> guys,
>
>> I've got an A/C pipe leaking Freon ( the one in front the evaporator )
>> on
>> Honda '93 accord.
>> It's actually a tiny hole in it and hate an idea of spending $300-$400 to
>> get it replaced .
>> Is it possible to seal it with the stuff like a liquid aluminium or smth.
>> like that and refill the system?
>> thanks
>
> I have a 1993 Accord, and my A/C began to fail a few weeks ago.
> I brought my car to my mechanic yesterday. He converted to R134
> and he detected a very slight slight leak in the evaporator. He
> he said the evaporator repair would cost $250, but he recommended
> that I try an A/C sealant instead.
>
> http://www.thetoolwarehouse.net/shop/CLP-946KIT.html
>
> My mechanic said that of all the types of work he does on Hondas,
> A/C repair has the highest rate of returns for recurring problems.
> He said there are hundereds of places the A/C system could be
> developing leaks and the best approach would be to try the sealant
> first.
>
> The R134 system is works well and is quite cold.
>
> Andrew
>
1993 was one of the first years for major evaporator leakage problems
industrywide. Many mfrs were changing to R134a and the evaporators they were
using (I don't know just what the difference was - maybe different alloy?)
began developing pinhole leaks. The problem was traced to corrosion caused
by dirt and pollen building up in the condensation on the evaporator and
forming a corrosive mud. Sealants would stop the initial leak, but more
would form. By 1995 just about everybody had added the now ubiquitous cabin
air filters to keep the mud from forming.
Mike
06-26-2005, 10:10 AM
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Re: A/C pipe leaking freon
"Andrew" <andrew@nats.edu> wrote in message
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> HND <fake_one@mail.com> wrote:
>> guys,
>
>> I've got an A/C pipe leaking Freon ( the one in front the evaporator )
>> on
>> Honda '93 accord.
>> It's actually a tiny hole in it and hate an idea of spending $300-$400 to
>> get it replaced .
>> Is it possible to seal it with the stuff like a liquid aluminium or smth.
>> like that and refill the system?
>> thanks
>
> I have a 1993 Accord, and my A/C began to fail a few weeks ago.
> I brought my car to my mechanic yesterday. He converted to R134
> and he detected a very slight slight leak in the evaporator. He
> he said the evaporator repair would cost $250, but he recommended
> that I try an A/C sealant instead.
>
> http://www.thetoolwarehouse.net/shop/CLP-946KIT.html
>
> My mechanic said that of all the types of work he does on Hondas,
> A/C repair has the highest rate of returns for recurring problems.
> He said there are hundereds of places the A/C system could be
> developing leaks and the best approach would be to try the sealant
> first.
>
> The R134 system is works well and is quite cold.
>
> Andrew
>
1993 was one of the first years for major evaporator leakage problems
industrywide. Many mfrs were changing to R134a and the evaporators they were
using (I don't know just what the difference was - maybe different alloy?)
began developing pinhole leaks. The problem was traced to corrosion caused
by dirt and pollen building up in the condensation on the evaporator and
forming a corrosive mud. Sealants would stop the initial leak, but more
would form. By 1995 just about everybody had added the now ubiquitous cabin
air filters to keep the mud from forming.
Mike
news:d9m2eg$d19$1@news-int.gatech.edu...
> HND <fake_one@mail.com> wrote:
>> guys,
>
>> I've got an A/C pipe leaking Freon ( the one in front the evaporator )
>> on
>> Honda '93 accord.
>> It's actually a tiny hole in it and hate an idea of spending $300-$400 to
>> get it replaced .
>> Is it possible to seal it with the stuff like a liquid aluminium or smth.
>> like that and refill the system?
>> thanks
>
> I have a 1993 Accord, and my A/C began to fail a few weeks ago.
> I brought my car to my mechanic yesterday. He converted to R134
> and he detected a very slight slight leak in the evaporator. He
> he said the evaporator repair would cost $250, but he recommended
> that I try an A/C sealant instead.
>
> http://www.thetoolwarehouse.net/shop/CLP-946KIT.html
>
> My mechanic said that of all the types of work he does on Hondas,
> A/C repair has the highest rate of returns for recurring problems.
> He said there are hundereds of places the A/C system could be
> developing leaks and the best approach would be to try the sealant
> first.
>
> The R134 system is works well and is quite cold.
>
> Andrew
>
1993 was one of the first years for major evaporator leakage problems
industrywide. Many mfrs were changing to R134a and the evaporators they were
using (I don't know just what the difference was - maybe different alloy?)
began developing pinhole leaks. The problem was traced to corrosion caused
by dirt and pollen building up in the condensation on the evaporator and
forming a corrosive mud. Sealants would stop the initial leak, but more
would form. By 1995 just about everybody had added the now ubiquitous cabin
air filters to keep the mud from forming.
Mike
07-25-2005, 02:52 PM
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Re: A/C pipe leaking freon
Just to let you know.
I used "J&B Weld" and it worked perfectly.
After A/C was refilled mechanic checked it for leakage and it was OK.
It cost me $9 for "J&B weld" and $140 for the refil with conversion ( CAD) .
Thanks for your advices.
"HND" <fake_one@mail.com> wrote in message
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> guys,
>
> I've got an A/C pipe leaking Freon ( the one in front the evaporator )
> on
> Honda '93 accord.
> It's actually a tiny hole in it and hate an idea of spending $300-$400 to
> get it replaced .
> Is it possible to seal it with the stuff like a liquid aluminium or smth.
> like that and refill the system?
>
> thanks
>
>
>
I used "J&B Weld" and it worked perfectly.
After A/C was refilled mechanic checked it for leakage and it was OK.
It cost me $9 for "J&B weld" and $140 for the refil with conversion ( CAD) .
Thanks for your advices.
"HND" <fake_one@mail.com> wrote in message
news:d9ic0c$5m7$2@utornnr1pp.grouptelecom.net...
> guys,
>
> I've got an A/C pipe leaking Freon ( the one in front the evaporator )
> on
> Honda '93 accord.
> It's actually a tiny hole in it and hate an idea of spending $300-$400 to
> get it replaced .
> Is it possible to seal it with the stuff like a liquid aluminium or smth.
> like that and refill the system?
>
> thanks
>
>
>
07-25-2005, 02:52 PM
#25
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Re: A/C pipe leaking freon
Just to let you know.
I used "J&B Weld" and it worked perfectly.
After A/C was refilled mechanic checked it for leakage and it was OK.
It cost me $9 for "J&B weld" and $140 for the refil with conversion ( CAD) .
Thanks for your advices.
"HND" <fake_one@mail.com> wrote in message
news:d9ic0c$5m7$2@utornnr1pp.grouptelecom.net...
> guys,
>
> I've got an A/C pipe leaking Freon ( the one in front the evaporator )
> on
> Honda '93 accord.
> It's actually a tiny hole in it and hate an idea of spending $300-$400 to
> get it replaced .
> Is it possible to seal it with the stuff like a liquid aluminium or smth.
> like that and refill the system?
>
> thanks
>
>
>
I used "J&B Weld" and it worked perfectly.
After A/C was refilled mechanic checked it for leakage and it was OK.
It cost me $9 for "J&B weld" and $140 for the refil with conversion ( CAD) .
Thanks for your advices.
"HND" <fake_one@mail.com> wrote in message
news:d9ic0c$5m7$2@utornnr1pp.grouptelecom.net...
> guys,
>
> I've got an A/C pipe leaking Freon ( the one in front the evaporator )
> on
> Honda '93 accord.
> It's actually a tiny hole in it and hate an idea of spending $300-$400 to
> get it replaced .
> Is it possible to seal it with the stuff like a liquid aluminium or smth.
> like that and refill the system?
>
> thanks
>
>
>
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