Can you "feel" a difference after a regular oil change?
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Re: Can you "feel" a difference after a regular oil change?
SMS wrote:
> Big Al wrote:
>> Is it possible to feel a difference (smoothness, better acceleration,
>> etc.) after a normal-interlude oil change?
>
> No.
>
>> Someone is claiming this and I think it's just their imagination, but
>> I was wondering if there'd be any technical reason. I can't think of
>> one, unless the oil was quarts low or something drastic, which it wasn't.
>
> People claim a lot of things. I.e. they claim they can feel the
> difference between synthetic base stock oil and petroleum base stock
> oil, but of course they can't.
except that you can measure the difference on a dyno. 1-3% in not
trivial. that means you'll be a cars length ahead of the guy that
started beside you by the end of the block.
> Big Al wrote:
>> Is it possible to feel a difference (smoothness, better acceleration,
>> etc.) after a normal-interlude oil change?
>
> No.
>
>> Someone is claiming this and I think it's just their imagination, but
>> I was wondering if there'd be any technical reason. I can't think of
>> one, unless the oil was quarts low or something drastic, which it wasn't.
>
> People claim a lot of things. I.e. they claim they can feel the
> difference between synthetic base stock oil and petroleum base stock
> oil, but of course they can't.
except that you can measure the difference on a dyno. 1-3% in not
trivial. that means you'll be a cars length ahead of the guy that
started beside you by the end of the block.
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Re: Can you "feel" a difference after a regular oil change?
On Sun, 26 Apr 2009 12:49:24 -0400, News wrote:
>
>
> Hachiroku ハチク wrote:
>> On Sun, 26 Apr 2009 07:54:26 -0700, Tony Hwang wrote:
>>
>>> Big Al wrote:
>>>> Is it possible to feel a difference (smoothness, better acceleration,
>>>> etc.) after a normal-interlude oil change? Someone is claiming this and
>>>> I think it's just their imagination, but I was wondering if there'd be
>>>> any technical reason. I can't think of one, unless the oil was quarts
>>>> low or something drastic, which it wasn't.
>>>>
>>>> Thanks--
>>>> Al
>>> Hi,
>>> Yes for sure.
>>
>> I notice the engine runs a little smoother with fresh oil.
>>
>
>
>
> I notice my wallet is lighter.
That's for sure.
>
>
> Hachiroku ハチク wrote:
>> On Sun, 26 Apr 2009 07:54:26 -0700, Tony Hwang wrote:
>>
>>> Big Al wrote:
>>>> Is it possible to feel a difference (smoothness, better acceleration,
>>>> etc.) after a normal-interlude oil change? Someone is claiming this and
>>>> I think it's just their imagination, but I was wondering if there'd be
>>>> any technical reason. I can't think of one, unless the oil was quarts
>>>> low or something drastic, which it wasn't.
>>>>
>>>> Thanks--
>>>> Al
>>> Hi,
>>> Yes for sure.
>>
>> I notice the engine runs a little smoother with fresh oil.
>>
>
>
>
> I notice my wallet is lighter.
That's for sure.
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Re: Can you "feel" a difference after a regular oil change?
On Apr 26, 1:18 pm, jim beam <retard-fin...@bad.example.net> wrote:
> SMS wrote:
> > Big Al wrote:
> >> Is it possible to feel a difference (smoothness, better acceleration,
> >> etc.) after a normal-interlude oil change?
>
> > No.
>
> >> Someone is claiming this and I think it's just their imagination, but
> >> I was wondering if there'd be any technical reason. I can't think of
> >> one, unless the oil was quarts low or something drastic, which it wasn't.
>
> > People claim a lot of things. I.e. they claim they can feel the
> > difference between synthetic base stock oil and petroleum base stock
> > oil, but of course they can't.
>
> except that you can measure the difference on a dyno. 1-3% in not
> trivial. that means you'll be a cars length ahead of the guy that
> started beside you by the end of the block.
A car's length? It would be hard to feel the difference in
acceleration. Plus, you would have to floor it to feel the difference.
No, it's one's imagination.
Jeff
> SMS wrote:
> > Big Al wrote:
> >> Is it possible to feel a difference (smoothness, better acceleration,
> >> etc.) after a normal-interlude oil change?
>
> > No.
>
> >> Someone is claiming this and I think it's just their imagination, but
> >> I was wondering if there'd be any technical reason. I can't think of
> >> one, unless the oil was quarts low or something drastic, which it wasn't.
>
> > People claim a lot of things. I.e. they claim they can feel the
> > difference between synthetic base stock oil and petroleum base stock
> > oil, but of course they can't.
>
> except that you can measure the difference on a dyno. 1-3% in not
> trivial. that means you'll be a cars length ahead of the guy that
> started beside you by the end of the block.
A car's length? It would be hard to feel the difference in
acceleration. Plus, you would have to floor it to feel the difference.
No, it's one's imagination.
Jeff
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Jeff wrote:
> On Apr 26, 1:18�pm, jim beam <retard-fin...@bad.example.net> wrote:
>> SMS wrote:
>>> Big Al wrote:
>>>> Is it possible to feel a difference (smoothness, better acceleration,
>>>> etc.) after a normal-interlude oil change?
>>> No.
>>>> Someone is claiming this and I think it's just their imagination, but
>>>> I was wondering if there'd be any technical reason. �I can't think of
>>>> one, unless the oil was quarts low or something drastic, which it wasn't.
>>> People claim a lot of things. I.e. they claim they can feel the
>>> difference between synthetic base stock oil and petroleum base stock
>>> oil, but of course they can't.
>> except that you can measure the difference on a dyno. �1-3% in not
>> trivial. �that means you'll be a cars length ahead of the guy that
>> started beside you by the end of the block.
>
> A car's length? It would be hard to feel the difference in
> acceleration. Plus, you would have to floor it to feel the difference.
>
> No, it's one's imagination.
>
> Jeff
not good at math - are you.
> On Apr 26, 1:18�pm, jim beam <retard-fin...@bad.example.net> wrote:
>> SMS wrote:
>>> Big Al wrote:
>>>> Is it possible to feel a difference (smoothness, better acceleration,
>>>> etc.) after a normal-interlude oil change?
>>> No.
>>>> Someone is claiming this and I think it's just their imagination, but
>>>> I was wondering if there'd be any technical reason. �I can't think of
>>>> one, unless the oil was quarts low or something drastic, which it wasn't.
>>> People claim a lot of things. I.e. they claim they can feel the
>>> difference between synthetic base stock oil and petroleum base stock
>>> oil, but of course they can't.
>> except that you can measure the difference on a dyno. �1-3% in not
>> trivial. �that means you'll be a cars length ahead of the guy that
>> started beside you by the end of the block.
>
> A car's length? It would be hard to feel the difference in
> acceleration. Plus, you would have to floor it to feel the difference.
>
> No, it's one's imagination.
>
> Jeff
not good at math - are you.
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Jeff wrote:
> A car's length? It would be hard to feel the difference in
> acceleration. Plus, you would have to floor it to feel the difference.
>
> No, it's one's imagination.
What's rather amusing is that even companies like Exxon-Mobile have
never claimed, nor of course proven, an increase in MPG from synthetic
base stock oil. Of course you see claims all over the map from Amsoil's
multi-level-marketing distributors.
Of course there are benefits to synthetic base stock oil in some
circumstances, such as extremely cold climates. For most people,
synthetic is simply throwing money away, other than the fact that it
makes them feel good by believing they are doing something good. It's
rather like a religion.
> A car's length? It would be hard to feel the difference in
> acceleration. Plus, you would have to floor it to feel the difference.
>
> No, it's one's imagination.
What's rather amusing is that even companies like Exxon-Mobile have
never claimed, nor of course proven, an increase in MPG from synthetic
base stock oil. Of course you see claims all over the map from Amsoil's
multi-level-marketing distributors.
Of course there are benefits to synthetic base stock oil in some
circumstances, such as extremely cold climates. For most people,
synthetic is simply throwing money away, other than the fact that it
makes them feel good by believing they are doing something good. It's
rather like a religion.
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SMS wrote:
> Jeff wrote:
>
>> A car's length? It would be hard to feel the difference in
>> acceleration. Plus, you would have to floor it to feel the difference.
>>
>> No, it's one's imagination.
>
> What's rather amusing is that even companies like Exxon-Mobile have
> never claimed, nor of course proven, an increase in MPG from synthetic
> base stock oil.
er, yes they have. that's why they have "economy" branded blends.
> Of course you see claims all over the map from Amsoil's
> multi-level-marketing distributors.
of course, because amsoil marketeers are -heads, that means all the
technology of all other companies is bogus!
>
> Of course there are benefits to synthetic base stock oil in some
> circumstances, such as extremely cold climates.
but you just said that there's no such thing as better economy. you
/do/ know that economy and viscosity, what affects cold starting, are
related don't you??? oh, wait, maybe you didn't.
> For most people,
> synthetic is simply throwing money away, other than the fact that it
> makes them feel good by believing they are doing something good. It's
> rather like a religion.
yup. and remaining fiercely ignorant is a fabulous way to go through life.
> Jeff wrote:
>
>> A car's length? It would be hard to feel the difference in
>> acceleration. Plus, you would have to floor it to feel the difference.
>>
>> No, it's one's imagination.
>
> What's rather amusing is that even companies like Exxon-Mobile have
> never claimed, nor of course proven, an increase in MPG from synthetic
> base stock oil.
er, yes they have. that's why they have "economy" branded blends.
> Of course you see claims all over the map from Amsoil's
> multi-level-marketing distributors.
of course, because amsoil marketeers are -heads, that means all the
technology of all other companies is bogus!
>
> Of course there are benefits to synthetic base stock oil in some
> circumstances, such as extremely cold climates.
but you just said that there's no such thing as better economy. you
/do/ know that economy and viscosity, what affects cold starting, are
related don't you??? oh, wait, maybe you didn't.
> For most people,
> synthetic is simply throwing money away, other than the fact that it
> makes them feel good by believing they are doing something good. It's
> rather like a religion.
yup. and remaining fiercely ignorant is a fabulous way to go through life.
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On Apr 26, 2:17 pm, SMS <scharf.ste...@geemail.com> wrote:
> Jeff wrote:
> > A car's length? It would be hard to feel the difference in
> > acceleration. Plus, you would have to floor it to feel the difference.
>
> > No, it's one's imagination.
>
> What's rather amusing is that even companies like Exxon-Mobile have
> never claimed, nor of course proven, an increase in MPG from synthetic
> base stock oil. Of course you see claims all over the map from Amsoil's
> multi-level-marketing distributors.
They don't? Look here: <http://www.mobiloil.com/USA-English/MotorOil/
Oils/Mobil_1_FAQs.aspx#FAQs1>
> Of course there are benefits to synthetic base stock oil in some
> circumstances, such as extremely cold climates. For most people,
> synthetic is simply throwing money away, other than the fact that it
> makes them feel good by believing they are doing something good. It's
> rather like a religion.
Actually, if there is less friction, there is better fuel economy.
And to meet the oil standards set by the API, the oil has to save
fuel. And, the engine will last longer.
Overall, though, the savings are small and only a small percentage of
people will actually have their cars long enough to benefit from a
longer-lasting engine. Most people sell their cars well before this or
the cars have other problems, like that a crash, that ends the service
of the car.
Jeff
> Jeff wrote:
> > A car's length? It would be hard to feel the difference in
> > acceleration. Plus, you would have to floor it to feel the difference.
>
> > No, it's one's imagination.
>
> What's rather amusing is that even companies like Exxon-Mobile have
> never claimed, nor of course proven, an increase in MPG from synthetic
> base stock oil. Of course you see claims all over the map from Amsoil's
> multi-level-marketing distributors.
They don't? Look here: <http://www.mobiloil.com/USA-English/MotorOil/
Oils/Mobil_1_FAQs.aspx#FAQs1>
> Of course there are benefits to synthetic base stock oil in some
> circumstances, such as extremely cold climates. For most people,
> synthetic is simply throwing money away, other than the fact that it
> makes them feel good by believing they are doing something good. It's
> rather like a religion.
Actually, if there is less friction, there is better fuel economy.
And to meet the oil standards set by the API, the oil has to save
fuel. And, the engine will last longer.
Overall, though, the savings are small and only a small percentage of
people will actually have their cars long enough to benefit from a
longer-lasting engine. Most people sell their cars well before this or
the cars have other problems, like that a crash, that ends the service
of the car.
Jeff
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Fat Moe wrote:
> Hachiroku ハチク wrote:
>> On Sun, 26 Apr 2009 07:54:26 -0700, Tony Hwang wrote:
>>
>>> Big Al wrote:
>>>> Is it possible to feel a difference (smoothness, better
>>>> acceleration, etc.) after a normal-interlude oil change? Someone is
>>>> claiming this and I think it's just their imagination, but I was
>>>> wondering if there'd be any technical reason. I can't think of one,
>>>> unless the oil was quarts low or something drastic, which it wasn't.
>>>>
>>>> Thanks--
>>>> Al
>>> Hi,
>>> Yes for sure.
>>
>> I notice the engine runs a little smoother with fresh oil.
> Main thing I notice is the used oil kills the weeds along the fence.
> Here's some reading for ya,
> $10 Million, Just for Motor Oil
> The most advanced piece of technology in a Nascar vehicle these days
> isn't its engine, its suspension or anything made of carbon fiber. It's
> the motor oil.
> http://online.wsj.com/article/SB123932274269507173.html
Whoa!
You do what? I hope you are not using used oil to kill weeds.
That is against the law for sure and BAD thing to do for the environment.
> Hachiroku ハチク wrote:
>> On Sun, 26 Apr 2009 07:54:26 -0700, Tony Hwang wrote:
>>
>>> Big Al wrote:
>>>> Is it possible to feel a difference (smoothness, better
>>>> acceleration, etc.) after a normal-interlude oil change? Someone is
>>>> claiming this and I think it's just their imagination, but I was
>>>> wondering if there'd be any technical reason. I can't think of one,
>>>> unless the oil was quarts low or something drastic, which it wasn't.
>>>>
>>>> Thanks--
>>>> Al
>>> Hi,
>>> Yes for sure.
>>
>> I notice the engine runs a little smoother with fresh oil.
> Main thing I notice is the used oil kills the weeds along the fence.
> Here's some reading for ya,
> $10 Million, Just for Motor Oil
> The most advanced piece of technology in a Nascar vehicle these days
> isn't its engine, its suspension or anything made of carbon fiber. It's
> the motor oil.
> http://online.wsj.com/article/SB123932274269507173.html
Whoa!
You do what? I hope you are not using used oil to kill weeds.
That is against the law for sure and BAD thing to do for the environment.
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SMS wrote:
> Big Al wrote:
>> Is it possible to feel a difference (smoothness, better acceleration,
>> etc.) after a normal-interlude oil change?
>
> No.
>
>> Someone is claiming this and I think it's just their imagination, but
>> I was wondering if there'd be any technical reason. I can't think of
>> one, unless the oil was quarts low or something drastic, which it wasn't.
>
> People claim a lot of things. I.e. they claim they can feel the
> difference between synthetic base stock oil and petroleum base stock
> oil, but of course they can't.
Hmmm,
They can unless being dumb. Just watch the tach.
> Big Al wrote:
>> Is it possible to feel a difference (smoothness, better acceleration,
>> etc.) after a normal-interlude oil change?
>
> No.
>
>> Someone is claiming this and I think it's just their imagination, but
>> I was wondering if there'd be any technical reason. I can't think of
>> one, unless the oil was quarts low or something drastic, which it wasn't.
>
> People claim a lot of things. I.e. they claim they can feel the
> difference between synthetic base stock oil and petroleum base stock
> oil, but of course they can't.
Hmmm,
They can unless being dumb. Just watch the tach.
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Tony Hwang wrote:
> Fat Moe wrote:
>> Hachiroku ハチク wrote:
>>> On Sun, 26 Apr 2009 07:54:26 -0700, Tony Hwang wrote:
>>>
>>>> Big Al wrote:
>>>>> Is it possible to feel a difference (smoothness, better
>>>>> acceleration, etc.) after a normal-interlude oil change? Someone
>>>>> is claiming this and I think it's just their imagination, but I was
>>>>> wondering if there'd be any technical reason. I can't think of
>>>>> one, unless the oil was quarts low or something drastic, which it
>>>>> wasn't.
>>>>>
>>>>> Thanks--
>>>>> Al
>>>> Hi,
>>>> Yes for sure.
>>>
>>> I notice the engine runs a little smoother with fresh oil.
>> Main thing I notice is the used oil kills the weeds along the fence.
>> Here's some reading for ya,
>> $10 Million, Just for Motor Oil
>> The most advanced piece of technology in a Nascar vehicle these days
>> isn't its engine, its suspension or anything made of carbon fiber.
>> It's the motor oil.
>> http://online.wsj.com/article/SB123932274269507173.html
> Whoa!
> You do what? I hope you are not using used oil to kill weeds.
> That is against the law for sure and BAD thing to do for the environment.
have you ever been to la brea tar pits?
> Fat Moe wrote:
>> Hachiroku ハチク wrote:
>>> On Sun, 26 Apr 2009 07:54:26 -0700, Tony Hwang wrote:
>>>
>>>> Big Al wrote:
>>>>> Is it possible to feel a difference (smoothness, better
>>>>> acceleration, etc.) after a normal-interlude oil change? Someone
>>>>> is claiming this and I think it's just their imagination, but I was
>>>>> wondering if there'd be any technical reason. I can't think of
>>>>> one, unless the oil was quarts low or something drastic, which it
>>>>> wasn't.
>>>>>
>>>>> Thanks--
>>>>> Al
>>>> Hi,
>>>> Yes for sure.
>>>
>>> I notice the engine runs a little smoother with fresh oil.
>> Main thing I notice is the used oil kills the weeds along the fence.
>> Here's some reading for ya,
>> $10 Million, Just for Motor Oil
>> The most advanced piece of technology in a Nascar vehicle these days
>> isn't its engine, its suspension or anything made of carbon fiber.
>> It's the motor oil.
>> http://online.wsj.com/article/SB123932274269507173.html
> Whoa!
> You do what? I hope you are not using used oil to kill weeds.
> That is against the law for sure and BAD thing to do for the environment.
have you ever been to la brea tar pits?
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Jeff wrote:
> On Apr 26, 1:18 pm, jim beam <retard-fin...@bad.example.net> wrote:
>> SMS wrote:
>>> Big Al wrote:
>>>> Is it possible to feel a difference (smoothness, better acceleration,
>>>> etc.) after a normal-interlude oil change?
>>> No.
>>>> Someone is claiming this and I think it's just their imagination, but
>>>> I was wondering if there'd be any technical reason. I can't think of
>>>> one, unless the oil was quarts low or something drastic, which it wasn't.
>>> People claim a lot of things. I.e. they claim they can feel the
>>> difference between synthetic base stock oil and petroleum base stock
>>> oil, but of course they can't.
>> except that you can measure the difference on a dyno. 1-3% in not
>> trivial. that means you'll be a cars length ahead of the guy that
>> started beside you by the end of the block.
>
> A car's length? It would be hard to feel the difference in
> acceleration. Plus, you would have to floor it to feel the difference.
>
> No, it's one's imagination.
>
> Jeff
Hi,
Then you must be so called motor vehicle operator, not a driver.
> On Apr 26, 1:18 pm, jim beam <retard-fin...@bad.example.net> wrote:
>> SMS wrote:
>>> Big Al wrote:
>>>> Is it possible to feel a difference (smoothness, better acceleration,
>>>> etc.) after a normal-interlude oil change?
>>> No.
>>>> Someone is claiming this and I think it's just their imagination, but
>>>> I was wondering if there'd be any technical reason. I can't think of
>>>> one, unless the oil was quarts low or something drastic, which it wasn't.
>>> People claim a lot of things. I.e. they claim they can feel the
>>> difference between synthetic base stock oil and petroleum base stock
>>> oil, but of course they can't.
>> except that you can measure the difference on a dyno. 1-3% in not
>> trivial. that means you'll be a cars length ahead of the guy that
>> started beside you by the end of the block.
>
> A car's length? It would be hard to feel the difference in
> acceleration. Plus, you would have to floor it to feel the difference.
>
> No, it's one's imagination.
>
> Jeff
Hi,
Then you must be so called motor vehicle operator, not a driver.
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SMS wrote:
> Jeff wrote:
>
>> A car's length? It would be hard to feel the difference in
>> acceleration. Plus, you would have to floor it to feel the difference.
>>
>> No, it's one's imagination.
>
> What's rather amusing is that even companies like Exxon-Mobile have
> never claimed, nor of course proven, an increase in MPG from synthetic
> base stock oil. Of course you see claims all over the map from Amsoil's
> multi-level-marketing distributors.
>
> Of course there are benefits to synthetic base stock oil in some
> circumstances, such as extremely cold climates. For most people,
> synthetic is simply throwing money away, other than the fact that it
> makes them feel good by believing they are doing something good. It's
> rather like a religion.
Hmmm,
I don't live my life based on some one's claim.
> Jeff wrote:
>
>> A car's length? It would be hard to feel the difference in
>> acceleration. Plus, you would have to floor it to feel the difference.
>>
>> No, it's one's imagination.
>
> What's rather amusing is that even companies like Exxon-Mobile have
> never claimed, nor of course proven, an increase in MPG from synthetic
> base stock oil. Of course you see claims all over the map from Amsoil's
> multi-level-marketing distributors.
>
> Of course there are benefits to synthetic base stock oil in some
> circumstances, such as extremely cold climates. For most people,
> synthetic is simply throwing money away, other than the fact that it
> makes them feel good by believing they are doing something good. It's
> rather like a religion.
Hmmm,
I don't live my life based on some one's claim.
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jim beam wrote:
> Tony Hwang wrote:
>> Fat Moe wrote:
>>> Hachiroku ハチク wrote:
>>>> On Sun, 26 Apr 2009 07:54:26 -0700, Tony Hwang wrote:
>>>>
>>>>> Big Al wrote:
>>>>>> Is it possible to feel a difference (smoothness, better
>>>>>> acceleration, etc.) after a normal-interlude oil change? Someone
>>>>>> is claiming this and I think it's just their imagination, but I
>>>>>> was wondering if there'd be any technical reason. I can't think
>>>>>> of one, unless the oil was quarts low or something drastic, which
>>>>>> it wasn't.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Thanks--
>>>>>> Al
>>>>> Hi,
>>>>> Yes for sure.
>>>>
>>>> I notice the engine runs a little smoother with fresh oil.
>>> Main thing I notice is the used oil kills the weeds along the fence.
>>> Here's some reading for ya,
>>> $10 Million, Just for Motor Oil
>>> The most advanced piece of technology in a Nascar vehicle these days
>>> isn't its engine, its suspension or anything made of carbon fiber.
>>> It's the motor oil.
>>> http://online.wsj.com/article/SB123932274269507173.html
>> Whoa!
>> You do what? I hope you are not using used oil to kill weeds.
>> That is against the law for sure and BAD thing to do for the environment.
>
> have you ever been to la brea tar pits?
Hi,
Have you been to oil sand tiling pond?
> Tony Hwang wrote:
>> Fat Moe wrote:
>>> Hachiroku ハチク wrote:
>>>> On Sun, 26 Apr 2009 07:54:26 -0700, Tony Hwang wrote:
>>>>
>>>>> Big Al wrote:
>>>>>> Is it possible to feel a difference (smoothness, better
>>>>>> acceleration, etc.) after a normal-interlude oil change? Someone
>>>>>> is claiming this and I think it's just their imagination, but I
>>>>>> was wondering if there'd be any technical reason. I can't think
>>>>>> of one, unless the oil was quarts low or something drastic, which
>>>>>> it wasn't.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Thanks--
>>>>>> Al
>>>>> Hi,
>>>>> Yes for sure.
>>>>
>>>> I notice the engine runs a little smoother with fresh oil.
>>> Main thing I notice is the used oil kills the weeds along the fence.
>>> Here's some reading for ya,
>>> $10 Million, Just for Motor Oil
>>> The most advanced piece of technology in a Nascar vehicle these days
>>> isn't its engine, its suspension or anything made of carbon fiber.
>>> It's the motor oil.
>>> http://online.wsj.com/article/SB123932274269507173.html
>> Whoa!
>> You do what? I hope you are not using used oil to kill weeds.
>> That is against the law for sure and BAD thing to do for the environment.
>
> have you ever been to la brea tar pits?
Hi,
Have you been to oil sand tiling pond?
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Jeff wrote:
> On Apr 26, 2:17 pm, SMS <scharf.ste...@geemail.com> wrote:
>> Jeff wrote:
>>> A car's length? It would be hard to feel the difference in
>>> acceleration. Plus, you would have to floor it to feel the difference.
>>> No, it's one's imagination.
>> What's rather amusing is that even companies like Exxon-Mobile have
>> never claimed, nor of course proven, an increase in MPG from synthetic
>> base stock oil. Of course you see claims all over the map from Amsoil's
>> multi-level-marketing distributors.
>
> They don't? Look here: <http://www.mobiloil.com/USA-English/MotorOil/
> Oils/Mobil_1_FAQs.aspx#FAQs1>
They only claim the increased fuel economy for 0W20 and 0W30. Yeah,
since it's not possible to make a 0W20 or 0W30 with petroleum base
stock, they have a point there. But even for the "Advanced Fuel Economy"
products, they keep going back to "during warm up" every time they make
a claim of reduced friction or "saving" energy.
"During warm-up, Mobil 1 Advanced Fuel Economy flows faster because of
its lower viscosity to minimize metal to metal contact to reduce
friction and wear."
"During the warm up phase, the Mobil 1 fully synthetic formulation
because of its lower viscosity flows more easily through the oil pump,
requiring less energy to pump the oil to the critical engine parts."
"http://www.mobiloil.com/USA-English/MotorOil/Oils/Mobil_1_Advanced_Fuel_Economy.aspx"
But for their "regular" synthetic oil, 5W20 and 5W30, they make no
claims of increased fuel economy.
> On Apr 26, 2:17 pm, SMS <scharf.ste...@geemail.com> wrote:
>> Jeff wrote:
>>> A car's length? It would be hard to feel the difference in
>>> acceleration. Plus, you would have to floor it to feel the difference.
>>> No, it's one's imagination.
>> What's rather amusing is that even companies like Exxon-Mobile have
>> never claimed, nor of course proven, an increase in MPG from synthetic
>> base stock oil. Of course you see claims all over the map from Amsoil's
>> multi-level-marketing distributors.
>
> They don't? Look here: <http://www.mobiloil.com/USA-English/MotorOil/
> Oils/Mobil_1_FAQs.aspx#FAQs1>
They only claim the increased fuel economy for 0W20 and 0W30. Yeah,
since it's not possible to make a 0W20 or 0W30 with petroleum base
stock, they have a point there. But even for the "Advanced Fuel Economy"
products, they keep going back to "during warm up" every time they make
a claim of reduced friction or "saving" energy.
"During warm-up, Mobil 1 Advanced Fuel Economy flows faster because of
its lower viscosity to minimize metal to metal contact to reduce
friction and wear."
"During the warm up phase, the Mobil 1 fully synthetic formulation
because of its lower viscosity flows more easily through the oil pump,
requiring less energy to pump the oil to the critical engine parts."
"http://www.mobiloil.com/USA-English/MotorOil/Oils/Mobil_1_Advanced_Fuel_Economy.aspx"
But for their "regular" synthetic oil, 5W20 and 5W30, they make no
claims of increased fuel economy.
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Re: Can you "feel" a difference after a regular oil change?
Tony Hwang wrote:
> jim beam wrote:
>> Tony Hwang wrote:
>>> Fat Moe wrote:
>>>> Hachiroku ハチク wrote:
>>>>> On Sun, 26 Apr 2009 07:54:26 -0700, Tony Hwang wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>>> Big Al wrote:
>>>>>>> Is it possible to feel a difference (smoothness, better
>>>>>>> acceleration, etc.) after a normal-interlude oil change? Someone
>>>>>>> is claiming this and I think it's just their imagination, but I
>>>>>>> was wondering if there'd be any technical reason. I can't think
>>>>>>> of one, unless the oil was quarts low or something drastic, which
>>>>>>> it wasn't.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Thanks--
>>>>>>> Al
>>>>>> Hi,
>>>>>> Yes for sure.
>>>>>
>>>>> I notice the engine runs a little smoother with fresh oil.
>>>> Main thing I notice is the used oil kills the weeds along the fence.
>>>> Here's some reading for ya,
>>>> $10 Million, Just for Motor Oil
>>>> The most advanced piece of technology in a Nascar vehicle these days
>>>> isn't its engine, its suspension or anything made of carbon fiber.
>>>> It's the motor oil.
>>>> http://online.wsj.com/article/SB123932274269507173.html
>>> Whoa!
>>> You do what? I hope you are not using used oil to kill weeds.
>>> That is against the law for sure and BAD thing to do for the
>>> environment.
>>
>> have you ever been to la brea tar pits?
> Hi,
> Have you been to oil sand tiling pond?
no, but i've been to the tar pits and they're rank. my point is, while
i don't think it's a good idea to wantonly oil anywhere, nature
does a pretty good job of ing that stuff about on its own.
> jim beam wrote:
>> Tony Hwang wrote:
>>> Fat Moe wrote:
>>>> Hachiroku ハチク wrote:
>>>>> On Sun, 26 Apr 2009 07:54:26 -0700, Tony Hwang wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>>> Big Al wrote:
>>>>>>> Is it possible to feel a difference (smoothness, better
>>>>>>> acceleration, etc.) after a normal-interlude oil change? Someone
>>>>>>> is claiming this and I think it's just their imagination, but I
>>>>>>> was wondering if there'd be any technical reason. I can't think
>>>>>>> of one, unless the oil was quarts low or something drastic, which
>>>>>>> it wasn't.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Thanks--
>>>>>>> Al
>>>>>> Hi,
>>>>>> Yes for sure.
>>>>>
>>>>> I notice the engine runs a little smoother with fresh oil.
>>>> Main thing I notice is the used oil kills the weeds along the fence.
>>>> Here's some reading for ya,
>>>> $10 Million, Just for Motor Oil
>>>> The most advanced piece of technology in a Nascar vehicle these days
>>>> isn't its engine, its suspension or anything made of carbon fiber.
>>>> It's the motor oil.
>>>> http://online.wsj.com/article/SB123932274269507173.html
>>> Whoa!
>>> You do what? I hope you are not using used oil to kill weeds.
>>> That is against the law for sure and BAD thing to do for the
>>> environment.
>>
>> have you ever been to la brea tar pits?
> Hi,
> Have you been to oil sand tiling pond?
no, but i've been to the tar pits and they're rank. my point is, while
i don't think it's a good idea to wantonly oil anywhere, nature
does a pretty good job of ing that stuff about on its own.